some people are not religious and have no family but physically or mentally cannot support themselves. the family cannot support them either in some cases.

what would you have them do?

i agree that the standards are lax, and that a more secure overview of those applying or reviving is a great idea.

but if you cannot live without help, would you just have them die?

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The forgotten Christian security, as you call it, is a family base priviledge of members taking care of their own with pride. The Pyrymid Social Security System was recognized from its inception to leave our posterity as losers, over burdened to support the elderly and disabled whom they have no idea whether are not are in need of support. And, as you well know, need is not a criteria for recieving Social Security. The wealthy recieve Social Security as much as a political and legal right as those who are abandoned by the traditional family structure that Social Security and the bogus anti-Christ god of personal abundance has murdered.

If you want to pretend Christianity is in your heart, as you go walking to Jericho and see the man who the anti-Christ priests walk way around so not to be associated with riff-raff, and the so called good people don’t want to be burdened with either (Luke 10:30-32), you help that man within the means you have and nothing more than that (Luke 10:33-35). You are not only bypassing the wasteful institutional middle men of church and state (Luke 10:36-37), but you are helping to destroy the incompetent institutions and religious brick crap houses, as the Lord has willed (Matt 23:15,23; 24:1-2)….

All lofty notions of serving God by contributing to someone else’s higher authority are anti-Christ, and you have been told how to “..do it not….(but) keep the sayings of this book (and) worship God (Rev 22:8-9; Matt 25:37-39,37-39,37-39)”

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How come it’s ok to pay for a police, firefighter, military or politician, but not for a nurce or doctor with federal or state money?
How come it’s ok to lock people in with food and free health care, but not to citisens who have worked all their life and beening f*cked by “insurrance” companies of the help they need?

If you pay $20 000 to an “insurance” companiy, you KNOW you never will get it back. And that is not becouse of any inflation.

Social security is not demanding that all doctors have to work in “the system”, the are free to do stuff that the security system doesn’t cover. Like doing face lift etc. You need a safty net to catch people from hitting the floor. But if they want to be at the roof, they need to climb themself, and still have the net catching if they fall to far. That way there won’t be that many criminals either. Becouse some people wont be pressed to steal to survive.

For real, this is not social security, social here was and is not same as the political socialist, it’s christian security. “Do to others what you want them to do to you”. It’s so basic I can’t understand your standing, except if you isn’t a good christian.

But I guess you won’t let this be posted here…

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Prior to the IRS having to put all of their publications online, their pub 515, Withholding Requirements for Non Resident Aliens spelled it out right on page 2 and later on page 3, stating that all a citizen or resident of the United States need to is provide his employer a signed statement to that effect and his employer was relieved from any duty to withhold. No slave number, no W-4, no W-2 at years end, and no expectation on the part of the Infernal Revenue Swindlers to receive a fiscal proctology report, i.e., a form 1040.

Likening the income tax/socialist insecurity system to The Matrix, the IRS is analagous to the Sentinels or “squiddies”, i.e., search and destroy robots. Korporate Amerika is Agent Smith. Korporate Amerika has been doing the dirty work since the days of the so-called “victory tax” which was the start of income tax withholding.

Withholding for social security started on January 2nd, 1937. People knew it was voluntary at that time, but signed up for it because it seemed like a good deal. It was, after a fashion, for them. It’s just that they were mortgaging their posterity in exchange for a dubious retirement annuity, funded in the same manner as a chain letter or pyramid game. It also established the critical nexus for laying an income tax on the wages of ordinary Americans.

I interviewed one of the last holdouts who refused to sign up for socialist insecurity many years back. He described how increasing pressure was placed on him to sign up. He would receive lecture after lecture as to why he should, questioning him as to “why he thought he was so special”, etc. Finally, after Pearl Harbor, it was “sign up if you want to keep working here”. Apparently, the government was covertly twisting the arms of employers/Korporate Amerika to do their dirty work. In this way, the nine learned orangutans in black nightgowns could read the law AS WRITTEN and have no problem with it. Of course, as written and as enforced are two different things.

Korporate Amerika needs to fear “We The People” more than the IRS. If “We The People” took charge like the unions did way back when, Korporate Amerika would learn to fear broken plate glass, broken teeth, and broken bones more than nastygrams and sheisters from the IRS.

As for Ron Paul: Ron, you should have gone public with the voluntary nature of Social Security in your campaign. You would have had nothing to lose. You could have backed up what you were saying with documentation right from the government. Hopefully you still will at some point.

Pete

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