“Change” means nothing. It’s just a word, and it’s a cliché. If you just repeat it it has no meaning. You have to say, what are you going to change, and I would argue, you offer no change. You have the same foreign policy, you want more troops in Afghanistan, you’re not talking about only going to war with a declaration, you don’t want to deal with the monetary/financial crisis in this country, you want to keep the system together for the benefit of the banks and the big corporations and the politicians. What kind of change you have on social policy? Do you care about sick people using using Marijuana, have you come out for that? [...]
[Obama] doesn’t want change, he wants the status quo. [...] If you want change, what you need is someone who’s going to make sure you’re never going to have a draft, and we’re going to bring our troops home, we’re going to balance the budget, we’re going have sound money… [Obama] never talks about any of that.
Watch the full speech here.
- Barack Obama, Inflation and Economic Fascism Channel: CNN Date: 4/14/2009 Transcript News Anchor: …eventually went to John McCain, and Congressman...
- Ron Paul: Afghanistan Will Be Obama’s War Source: Campaign for Liberty Date: 1/25/2009 Transcript: Thanks for joining us. In the last...
- Against All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic In his latest column Ron Paul speaks out against a potential reinstatement of the draft,...
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Welcome to the unlikely club of conservatives who think. But be careful when affiliating yourself with the word “neo-con”. It is used today the way ‘commie’ was back in the 50’s. It is used to insult people who only have a smidgen of that coloring to them.
I refer to myself as a “conservative leaning libertarian” for that very reason. “Conservative” because of my fiscal conservative ideas, “leaning” because my social liberal ideas don’t put me 100% in the conservative camp, and “libertarian” because of my classic liberal ideas.
My understanding that the difference between a neo-con and a conservative is whether or not pre-emptive military actions are justified. Well, in my view the global scale of human interactions has altered when something is pre-emptive. We no longer live in the cozy valley and waiting until the enemy is on our soil to be defensive.
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Excuse me.
The sentence:
We no longer live in the cozy valley and waiting until the enemy is on our soil to be defensive.
Should read:
We no longer live in the cozy valley and waiting until the enemy is on our soil to be defensive is no longer a viable option.
I would also like to include:
Attacking no longer means dirtying your shoes on foreign soil and being defensive no longer means waiting for such to happen.
People are now being killed from abroad with advanced delivery systems, invasions are done with little physical presence because of international travel, and the population of entire countries are being severed from the world (Internet communications and ecommerce).
By using out-dated strategies and obsolete ethical standards, we are guaranteeing that we will lose and be killed int the process.
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I supported Ron Paul during the Republican Primary. When he did not win, I switched my support to Barack Obama. I think Ron Paul is making some great points but he must keep in mind that just like himself, Barack Obama was elected based on the promises he has made, and we really can’t make a judgment about his performance until at least a couple of years after he has been elected. The reason I switched my support to Obama was because he is much more fiscally conservative than most Republicans, as he originally based his very candidacy for president on his opposition to the Iraq War. As far as the Marijuana issue goes, he supports legalizing it for medical uses which is a BIG step forward. As far as the “corporations” go, Obama has already taken steps to return the taxpayers the money that went to AIG and Freddie-Mac under President Bush. The type of lending that Obama is advocating for companies ( to stimulate the economy) is a TRUE LOAN meaning that the money will be returned to taxpayers with a year. In my opinion this is a vast improvement from the direct corporate welfare that Republicans other than Ron Paul have been forcing us to fund. As far as Ron Paul himself goes (and again these are the reasons I supported him), he openly supported using military force in Afghanistan to defeat Al-Qaeda (wait what did Ron Paul say about a 9/11 investigation?), and his platform included funding state programs by cutting the amount of tax dollars going to politicians. After he lost the Republican primary, he said that if he had to choose between Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain, he would pick Obama because he has the best foreign policy (Here is a link of Ron Paul saying this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOpdE2Z0Ss). So now Ron Paul, I ask you one thing, are you really fighting for our liberty, or are you trying to please every possible voter for your own personal power just like a lot of the politicians already out there? I know a lot of you who read this are ready to rant by now, so if you think I’m a brainwashed neo-con, I dare you to find another brain-washed neo-con that thinks this critically!
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http://www.campaignforliberty.com membership closing in on 99800 and growing at about an additional 1000 every ten days or so and appears to be accelerating.
I joined at 6000 in August so several doublings have already taken place. The key is for each of us to talk with people we meet about the issues to discover their thoughts and if we find someone who cares about individual freedom and believes as we do that the principles of limited government, sound money, non interventionist foreign policy and individual freedom we should encourage them to join with us and carry the torch to find others themselves.
100k becomes 200k becomes 400k, 800k, 1600k, 3200k, 6400k, 12800k, 25M, 50M 100M !!!
Notice it would only take each finding another ten now. Those we find would only have to find nine! The ones they find would need to find eight, then seven six five four three two and then one.
How hard will it be once our numbers have grown into the millions?
We have the rational economic understanding in Austrian free market school of economics to use to show the errors of past,current and future policies. For example the Congress passed a Law forcing banks to lower their standards to enable non qualified borrowers to obtain sub prime mortgages which led to the crisis.
Read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand and her Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, For the New Intellectual and The Virtue of Selfishness
Wm
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Would Ron Paul ever consider reaching out to Barack Obama and help him govern in his administration? Instead of coming at Obama hard, just have a good long sit down with him explaining how they could possibly work well together. Just sayin…
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Your asking a bird to teach a dog to fly, no matter how much the bird trys to teach the dog, the dog will never be able to fly.
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wow, Obama is a dog!
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God Bless Ron Paul. I spent a painful 2 minutes in the booth and could not bring myself to vote for Obama. I am happy he beat McCain but sad that the option for Ron Paul was unavailable. Americans believe we have come a long way…. the worst times lay just ahead. God Bless Ron Paul.
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Some people are upset because RP showed respect to his enemies. That is the reason I supported him now and will do so in 2012. The reason LP has no hope IMHO is the arrogant attitude that refuses to even show basic human respect to others. Ron Paul showed the maturity to do so which is a rare characteristic in a third party politician who tries to fan the fire of hatred for the established ways.
I might agree with you if Ron Paul had completely rewritten his message several times. Maybe I missed it; where did he do so?
I don’t like people who fight dirty and thinking your side is so perfect that you can ignore others is at the roots of all dirty fighting. The Big Brother may fight dirty, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to descend into the same sewer tank which you seem to advocate.
I am impressed with the way Ron Paul ran his campaign and handled the fact that is didn’t go through. Would you have wanted Hugo Chavez to hold his grounds after the apparent slap in the face given to him by an election last year? His reaction earned him some brownie points in my book but not enough for me to support him yet.
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I could not cast my vote for Ron Paul, who has made himself a phantom image like Goldstein in George Orwell’s “1984″. An imaginary concoction of “Big Brother” to persuade the enemies of Big Brother to wait and not act against atrocities until the non-existant Goldstein called them forth.
All the virtues and hopes of a people were enshrined in the doctrines of imaginary Goldstein…but Goldstein was not though his followers waited for his call.
In Orwell’s 1984 the hero Winston ultimately learned there was no Goldstein. There was just Big Brother’s newspeak of the moment that had no past for social standards and norms to become established upon. There was no projected future for a hope to cling upon. There was just the unfounded declarations of politically correct thoughts for the moment. And like an exercise to vent off steam in that frustrated life, there were scheduled moments of hope in the imaginary Goldstein turned on and off at the convenience of Big Brother.
Ron Paul’s use of the hope our Constitution gives us and his collection of people waiting for his imaginary time to act makes Ron Paul just another Goldstein to “..say and do not (Matt 23:1-3)”
For the sake of the Constitution the imaginary Ron Paul supports so well, I again wrote his name on the ballot. But if the bastard runs in 2012 I won’t.
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[...] (again)? How much do you share in the excitement of America right now? In June Ron Paul said “[Obama] doesn’t want change, he wants the status quo.” Nader has been equally critical of both McCain and Obama, although today he did offer a cordial [...]
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I wrote in Ron Paul as well and feel pretty damn good about it!
I had a professor that said it was a wasted vote; he shut up once I reminded him that numbers send messages; just look at the election of 1912, the Bull Moose party didn’t win, but 4 million votes sent a message.
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I just voted in FL today !!!!!! I wrote Ron Paul FOR President even though he isn’t running I STILL WANT HIM FOR PRESIDENT
“Give me liberty or give me death” VOTE R.P.
P.s. bring the revolution to FL!!!
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Look at what obama did with hilary, he made her secretary of state and sends her off around the world; which keeps her out of
his way! I’m surprised he didn’t take ron paul and send him off
to kazakastan or mambasu and make him a consul there and viola!
two nuts out of the way!
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that black dude is pretty good at politics, besides this health care thing.
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Some claim Pres. BO is good looking. You claim he is a good politician.
Does that make him a “beautiful liar” or a “beautiful disaster”? What about both?
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It is just sad that all of you people that say you “didn’t want to waste a vote” because the candidate you supposedly like and agree with doesn’t seem to have a chance to win (based on what you see on CNN!!?)…Since when did you have to vote for the winner? Are our elections just a game of pick the douche and then let’s live with it for 4 years??? If everyone voted for who they agreed with more we could actually decide between more than just two parties…maybe 3, 4 or even 5! CHOICE..wow, what a concept.
I VOTED FOR RON PAUL AND THAT WAS THE LEAST WASTEFUL THING I DID ALL DAY!!!!!
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You are right, I don’t listen to the dribble called TV and the radio is only good for music IHO. With something serious like this I want to see several reliable sources on the Inet or on paper. I want to read the whole trans-script so I can see what was actually said in the sentence/paragraph, see what context it was said in, and look for other ways the media could be misleading us. You want to take the media’s at their word, go ahead.
The proof I was questioning is whether or not the supposed quote was truly said. BTW: the word is “there”, not “their”. How much time did you waste and how much money did your parents waste on your college? I’m glad I didn’t go any farther than 2 years.
Speaking of proof, where is the proof about “Iraq being all about oil control”? Maybe it was Elvis, BigFoot, or some other whacko theory.
Most of us have already decided on the elections, but a few of us are trying to learn from it. Introspection is not necessarily a bad thing.
I know you are stressed but settle down, breath deep, take your meds, and learn where the return key is.
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Anyone who hasn’t seen and heard Bush say that “Iraq has WMD’s” must not have a TV or a radio. I have seen and heard him say it. I’ve seen Rumsfeld say it, I’ve seen Colin Powell say it in his UN address. When I was in the Air Force our commanders said it. It was the very reason Bush gave for going into Iraq and you still say they is no proof of it. You have the internet, try googling it. There is plenty of proof out their. So spare me the common dribble crap. Ron Paul was against the Iraq War because he knew that Iraq posed no threat to American Soil as defined by our borders. However, you are correct that America ships, planes and embassies are sovereign American territory. So do you go into a bullies yard call him names and not expect to get punched, no. So don’t send troops, planes and ships into someone elses space, call them names shoot at them and not expect retaliation. If we weren’t meddling in other countries politics we wouldn’t have this mess. The funny thing is, we are the bully and we went into someone else’s yard. Our govt. condemns Russia for invading Georgia, well there are Georgian terrorist doing terrorist activities in Russia, so they invaded just like we invaded Irag. Our govt. is made up of the biggest hypocrites. Was Russia right to do what they did? NO, and neither are we. We deserve the condemnation we have received from the rest of the world. Just like Iraq is truly about oil control, Russia’s acts are about a natural gas pipeline. Hell, even Afghanistan has natural gas pipeline behind it. Their president, Karzai, that we hand picked was president of a natural gas company that wanted to build a pipeline across the country that the Taliban disapproved of. Granted, the Taliban is a horribly repressive group that the world should have never let come into power in the first place, and wouldn’t have if America had held its promise that we gave when we armed OBL. So atthe end of the day who is to blame, do you see the common thread at all? The oil companies, the world’s demand for oil (that means every citizen bares some blame) and the governments of the world. Only one person has come up with any sort of reasonable plan and the is Pickens that could end all of this for America and bring America back to the front of the world in energy production, jobs and the economy; which in turn would put us back at the top in military power too. I’m done blogging on this now, there are only 3 days until the election and I was just layed off on Friday, thank you so much trickle down economics. Add me to the uninsured, unemployed and now unable to spend any money to help the economy and take care of my children. Christmas is officially cancelled in my house (the spending, marketing side; the religious aspect remains in tact). My American dream is getting more tarnished the older I get. I work my ass off and all I ever get is deeper in debt and I am sick of it! Being a 40yr old disabled veteran is not making anything easier either. I’m tired of watching my parents struggle to keep their home, I’m tired of struggling to put food on the table and I am tired of our governmental officials getting away with criminal acts and only being censured or fined. Why hasn’t any candidate talk about going after these financial institutions for fraud? Why haven’t their been investigations of the big 4 accounting firms that audit their financial statements? Why have 2 of these big 4 accounting firms been given the control to audit how the bailout is being spent? It’s like giving the keys of the hen house to the fox. So now the auditing companies that audited these financial institutions are and saw nothing wrong are now incharge of making sure the bailout money is all accounted for? I am an unemployed accountant and let me tell you there has got to be some cover ups going on. And on top of it all, Paulson used to be president of Goldman Sachs, wow is this a nightmare! See you all the polls on Tuesday, good day and good luck!
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What makes you think I am a Bush supporter? After 9-11 I did think he was what we needed to counter an attacking enemy, but those thoughts waned years ago. Just because my research has made me come to conclusions similar to Bush supporters doesn’t make me one.
Do you have a direct quote from GWB saying that Iraq/Hussein had WMD? The closest I’ve found is a BBC (IIRC) report that quoted him as saying that Iraq was restarting their nuclear program and could have WMD in a few years. Close, but not close enough to justify calling him a liar.
Apparently you are comfortable making decisions based on colloquial claims, but I would rather think for myself. Sometimes my conclusions are similar to the mainstream, but usually they are out in left field.
Also, why would I come to any conclusions about your intelligence before I see how you use it? Can you support your conclusions or are you just repeating todays common dribble? So far, I don’t see anything encouraging.
So you went to college just like Bush did and you are a decorated veteran just like McCain? Do you really want me to judge others based on their college education and military service?
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Our government far more often than that with Saddam Hussein (remember the picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking his hand), and it was indeed America that armed OBL to fight the Russians. The US needs to stop meddling with the affairs of other nations when we can’t even get our own government right. It was the Kurds in control in the north, and it was they whom Hussein used the chemical weapons on that we gave him to combat Iran with. So Hussein went rogue on us and so we had to take him out. There may have been some terrorists in Iraq before the war, but they were kept under thumb by Hussein, because he squashed any uprisings. Was he a horrible human being, absolutely, but it is the only way a country like Iraq will have some semblance of peace. The Shia’s and Sunni’s have been fighting for centuries and they both hate the Kurds and the Kurds hate the Turks and so on and so on. Now we have brought war lords back to power in Iraq and clerics and put their common enemy, us, right in their yard. Any time you destablize an area chaos takes over and elements like OBL can gain strength. OBL was nowhere near Iraq when Bush decided to invade. The attacks on US planes were over Iraqi soil, so if we weren’t there in the first place, they wouldn’t have occured. Hussein had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and everyone knows it. Was Hussein saddened by it, I’m sure he wasn’t. We had OBL and chose to run the other way, why? That is the real question we should be asking. I served during the first Gulf War (which was justifiable) and have spoke with marines that were a part of the unit that had him trapped and they still don’t understand why they were told to stand down. So if you are still in love with Bush, be my guest it is a free country and you can like who you want, but it is his war that has created this nation of debt, his lies (and they were lies about the weapons of mass destruction (our military destroyed what little had left the first go round or else he would have used them on us), and his complete incompetancy about the world and his desire to bring on armageddon, and the greed of his cohorts like Cheney, his brother who had his own S&L scandal, and the oil money his family made it rich on and the rest of big corporate America and the world that has brought this all on. Man, even McCain and most sensible Republicans know that Bush is a horrible president. I can’t believe there’s a Bush supporter on Ron Paul’s blog. Some Dems not sold Obama I get, some Reps that aren’t sold on McCain I get, but a Bush supporter; after all this that is just mindboggling. Of course you’ll say you are so much more intelligent than I am or how stupid I am for saying that and I should wallow in my own ignorance. I guess being a college honor grad and decorated veteran just doesn’t make me as smart as someone who still supports Bush, all I have to say is hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha. You must be joking!
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So if you disagree with the following, do not credit a Bush supporter, a “reptard”, or a “Bushtard”. I’ve been called all of the above even though these are facts I learned by my own research before I heard it being spouted in the Republican camp. Apparently I am not supposed to think for myself.
Did we start the war in Iraq? Doing some research I found that we were attacked 24 times in the past 20 years. 22 times America was attacked on it’s own soil. Remember that by international conventions, a countries embassies and ships that fly their flag are considered to be their soil. About ten years before Bush invaded Iraq, war was declared on us by OBL who was involved in 18 of those attacks. It was time we quit hitting the snooze button, awoke to reality, and stopped others from hitting what was left of our nose. BTW: two of those attacks failed but the intention was there.
Did we bring Al-Queda into Iraq after 9-11? Al-Queda and the Taliban was already established and strong in the north.
Should we have only retaliated against Afghanistan and was it only Bushes cronies that wanted to do so? When the “war on terror” was declared and approved by congress, it was said that we would go after all countries that harbor terrorists.
Did Hussein have no relations with terrorists or OBL? The 911 commission chronicles the times the two met and Sadam did provide refuge for terror suspects from OBL’s first attack on the twin towers.
Why did we attack with such force? When you are attacked it is cowardice to not defend yourself and it is pure stupidity to not cripple the other person so they can’t attack you back.
Did Bush make mistakes like calling Shia’s Shiites or mis-pronouncing Dubia? Not only is Shiite a Hindi word borrowed from Arabic languages (according to the Oxford Hindi to English dictionary) but the vowel system is very different in the Middle East and South Asia and is very difficult for a westerner. I have not gotten a hold on pronunciation of Hindi (phonically and grammatically identical to Urdu which is used in Pakistan) even though I have been studying it for years.
Should we have gone after Saudi Arabia first? If it wasn’t for the fact that was refusing to comply with international treaties and ignoring UN sanctions then yes. I probably would have done something about Kim too.
Should America be denounced for being too trigger happy and reacting too soon? Not only were international agreements tried during the 90’s but they did not work. As an aside, in WarII we were being denounced for not reacting sooner.
As an aside, Americans are arrogant towards other countries just as other countries are arrogant to us. Besides, we are not the worst. We may go to tourist traps and not learn the local culture, but we don’t go on foreign beaches and have sex in front of a local crowd.
You guys are lucky I didn’t touch on economic issues.
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I wrote in Ron Paul today
May not be much but it’s one more.
Peace.
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I find it really funny that you call me out on name calling, think back to everything you have said and then think about your assertion.
To clarify something you may not know, I was actually unaware that you were a registered democrat; being as how I am not judgmental I did not feed into your insinuations. Honestly, your claims did not really suggest that you were very non- partisan either. I was not sure exactly what your claims were eluding to in regards to what you believe exactly. So then we agree that the bailout is ridiculous and that everyone is to blame; I apologize for not seeing that you were trying to say that before; but I think you can understand why I would feel that you were saying something different.
I think you are forgetting one very important fact about this campaign: whites are not the only racists in this country. Here in California there are overwhelming numbers of people voting for Barack Obama simply because he is black. Being half Iranian, I can tell you that it is a community that is more ethnocentric than most, hell, it is a club I cannot even get into! No matter what, votes will be balanced for Mr. Obama, for every white who votes against him because he is black, there will be 5 voting for him because he IS black.
Why though, are you crediting Ronald Reagan with bringing the hostages home as being the success in light of Carter’s “failure”. Let me tell you something about Jimmy Carter: he was not a “pass the buck” lazy politician; he got to the bottom of a problem, understood it, and then fixed it. This is how he was able to obtain at least some peace in the Middle East with respect to Israel. All Iran was asking for was the Shah, they had the right to do what they like with him, and Carter understood this, he attempted to bring them home without anymore violence. On a side note, there is evidence that these Americans were told to leave the country anyway, before they were taken as hostages; and the operation was not done by the new government either, so Carter wasn’t dealing with anyone directly; he was in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. Ronald Reagan is the one who used and abused Iran during the Iran- contra affair. He may have brought the hostages home, but it was at a huge diplomatic cost.
Just because I don’t like your politics doesn’t make me not open minded, it makes me a critical thinker.
If you really want to know something funny, I experience more discrimination from other Iranians than I have ever experienced from whites. Racism might be alive and well in your neck of the woods, but is very different than the contemporary form that has showed its face here on the west coast.
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Did you even read what I said, both reps. & dems. are at fault, but largely the American way of life is to blame. People living way beyond their means on credit. The economy was bound to crash because it was being floated on credit, and credit on credit. What you said in your last line is exactly what I’ve been saying, but because I am supporting Obama you are judging me already. I too agree to some to degree with Ron Paul, to bad he doesn’t have the backbone to break from the Republican party and try to start a real third party. Yes you are right, Obama Sr. is dead, sorry I used the wrong tense, it’s not like you always use perfect grammar either. All I am saying is that trickle down economics doesn’t work because of the overwhelming greed of America, it is what we have had under Bush and it is what McCain wants to do too.
As far as you having to resort to childish name calling when I was just pointing out that I being a caucasion person have openly heard many PA whites (even some that are Dems, but mostly Reps) say they won’t vote for Obama simply because he is black it how narrow minded these people are in today’s society. So I am stupid because I don’t agree with you? Welcome to Democracy. All I am pointing out is racism is alive and well in white America, why else would people start calling Obama a Muslim, and an Arab and yell “Kill him” at McCain’s rallies. Of course he takes the high road and stops and says that Obama is a good American, but he is willing to let his VP say anything she wants and that is where these idiots get these ideas from. And so what if he is Muslim, that isn’t a crime in America, although these idiots that go to these rallies think it is.
If you don’t think McCain won’t invade your 1/2 native nation of Iran, you’re are highly mistaken. And as for Pakistan, even Palin agreed with Obama that we should take out those that the Pakistani govt. won’t or can’t that are coming into Afghanistan and attacking our troops and then fleeing back to the mountains of Pakistan. Of course the American govt. created this monster in the first place called Al-queda when we supplied them with arms to fight off Russia and then bailed on them after promising them we’d rebuild Afghanistan for them only to leave it in ruins. It’s pretty amazing that even though we have over 40,000 troops there, they are still the world’s leading producer of opium. We also created Saddam Hussein and supported him for years until he invaded Kuwait and used the chemical weapons we gave him against the Kurds. Of course we gave Saddam these chemical weapons to use against who, oh thats right the Iranians.
Of course I probably sound like Charlie Brown’s parents to you right now, blah, blah, blah. Because you aren’t open to opposing views. At least I admit that I AGREE with some of Ron Paul’s opinions even though I am registered Democrat (but why should I have to label myself for you, I vote for some Republicans too, like Arlen Spector because he has been good for PA and have even voted for some Green Party candidates too) on his opinions like illegal immigration, the bailout (which is just a corporate give away) and the war in Iraq (which is the biggest reason our national debt is the highest it has ever been). But we can no longer rely on the private sector to provide health care and our infrastructure is a nightmare (which got that way because the private sector would rather please its shareholders rather than reinvest it into updating the power grids, railroads, and what we rely on for power sources). Al Gore may have run a bumbling campaign (much like McCain has, which says a lot about his executive skills), but Gore was right about investing in alternative fuels sources and environmental technologies. There is a whole manufacturing sector to be tapped into and America better jump on it before the Chinese take that away from us too.
As for Carter and his decision not to take violence against Iran, but rather try diplomacy (which failed to free the hostages, so Reagan did resort to violence and freed them), I do think it is wise to try all attempts of diplomacy before resorting to violence, that’s why the Iraq War is such a disgrace to America. We can agree to disagree and that is why we’re a democracy, but when you resort to name calling you just show your true colors, I feel sorry for you that you can’t carry on a discussion as a mature open minded adult. As a self professed minority I would hope you never feel what it is like to be discriminated against, but I would defend you if you were to ever have that occur to you. Sadly discriminatoin will play a part in this election and I think that is really sad in the 21st Century in a country that claims to be the melting pot of the world.
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Oh and as far as the bailout is considered, both Obama and McCain supported it, but not congressman Ron Paul. At least though, McCain was warning congress about Fannie May Freddy Mac in 2006. The problems today were bound to happen but not solely because of republicans, do you not remember the deregulation from the Clinton administration in 1999? How dare you blame republicans as being the only ones responsible for the economy, this was the one joint effort from both parties. Everyone in America both civil and in the government are responsible for this problem.
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Racist? I think not, I am half Iranian and have absolutely no problem with Jimmy Crater electing not to turn the hostage situation into another American Middle East adventure. You call that inept and weak? I call that wise. Talk about striking cords, maybe you should get over you ex, and then return to your soap box with a somewhat clear head.
About the historical context in which you choose to assert in response to my claims…….
The fact as to whether or not the founding fathers were racist is irrelevant to what I was saying as my comments dealt with the American political parties we deal with today. At the time of the drafting of the constitution there were no republicans or democrats, their politics did not reflect any of the political issues going on today, so it would stand that once again that your assertions have no place at all in this conversation. Now in case you were not aware: the shift in parties was made final with the signing of the civil rights acts by LBJ, he even remarked on how with this signature he was signing away the Southern Democratic vote. Dating back to the FDR years the democratic party was splitting; it is true that MOST of these racist individuals went to the republicans, but let me tell you that they are on their way out, of course with no help from individuals like yourself. That is why most of us are on this website to support Ron Paul, because he is a real republican. May I ask what exactly you would be? Do you know, or should you see what your ex is dong first and then you will make that decision?
Yes, I still think Michelle Obama is a racist; and no, that is not retarded at all. I also noticed that you said his father LIVES in Kenya; you are aware his father is dead right? And that Barack Obama never even really knew him very well?
The only difference between Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama is that Barack Obama thinks it would be a good idea to get into Pakistan’s face next, and that is even more ridiculous than Iraq. His rhetoric echoes Jimmy Carters on nearly everything, and my point was that Michelle Obama still decided to say she has never been proud of her country in her adult life, this would include the administration of Jimmy Carter, so this I believe shows that she holds racist sentiments. It is fine if you get excited at the possibility of a black man being elected into office, it is very progressive; however it is wrong to be excited to a point where you discount other administrations that are similar in every way except the color of their skin; and I feel that is exactly what Mrs. Obama was doing with her statements
Thank you for your comment, Mike. At first I thought maybe you just had a bad day but now I realize you really are one of those dumb Americans that learn one word, or one concept and runs with it as far as he can ( “…the founding fathers were racists… blah blah blah”. Seriously I will laugh at this for a week!) The people on this site support the Ron Paul revolution and constitutional- ism, you seem to support….. well whoever your ex doesn’t support?
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Candis is redrumming history to her own beat. When our Constitution was written they were all racists, even Thomas Jefferson who wanted to outlaw slavery in the Constitution owned slaves. Our so called Christian founders were also Outcasts, Bigots and Adulterers. So it is kind of pointless to look to history and try to argue they weren’t racists, when they all were. As far as Michelle Obama’s comments, I am not exactly proud of the way my nation carries itself oversees or domestically. We’re a nation of greed and thoughtless, selfish thinkers. You go on worshiping in glass palace churches while you minister drives a Mercedies and say they are good Christians. No minister should ever be rich if they are God fearing, bible reading, true believers, they would give all the extra they have to those in need.
As far as Michelle Obama not liking Carter and therefore she must be racist too, is retarded. Carter was an inept leader because he was just plain weak. He is a good person, lousy politician. So now the Obama’s are racist against whites, but hang out with a terrorist who is white, right? Is that what you’re trying to say? You need to look and listen to what you’re saying. I’ve got a good feeling you are probably a racist and that’s why I set off a nerve in you. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, swims like a duck, well then it must be a duck. Any way I’m done in here. Power, American Power is what we need and America is made up of every race there is and it is never going to change. Yes the Democrats used to be the party that had all the rebel flag waving, right winged bible thumping conservatives in it. That has changed, they are almost all republicans now. My ex, the mother of my children included. My parents have declared the republicans are no longer the same and they both just changed their registration this year. I have served with many great people of all different races in the U.S. Air Force, and I have met many ignorant people of all races. I am done in here, this sight seems to be getting taken over by extreme Republicans that just can’t wait for 4 more years of the same tired trickle down economics that McCain is offering and will surely destroy the middle class of America and produce deficits they likes that only my children’s, children’s, children’s children will start maybe see the end of. It doesn’t work because the US is a nation of greed Capitalists who are too selfish to see past the end of their own greed. If this weren’t true then shareholders investing in the stockmarket and companies would be demanding ethics and honest financial statements from their investments and force the Board of Directors to stop paying each other the millions they are for years where these companies are having losses. It is a joke, but as long as they are promised a dividend annually they sit by quietly while the market crashes around them and then shout I’m going to sue somebody. It is a sad state and I too am disappointed and afraid of what America has become. At least the Obama’s are honest and brave enough to say publicly and are trying to restore some sense of pride and leadership that McCain will never be able to instill in Americans. McCain is to busy speaking words of hate,lies and division. He can even show support for either baseball team in the World Series, so what if Obama is supporting both, isn’t that what a President should do? Isn’t that showing a message of unity rather than division? I’m done here, this process is almost over once again we have seen America’s true colors show, that we aren’t ready to handle are own diversity, so how can we possibly lead the world that is so much more diversed?
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EVERYONE HERE IS BASICALLY SAYING THE SAME THING OR TWISTING IT THEIR OWN WAY. THERES THREE REASONS WHY THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA IS IN THIS SITUATION. NONE OF THE REASONS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REAGANS, CLINTONS, BUSHS, MCCAIN OR OBAMA. THE FIRST REASON IS THAT AMERICANS DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THEIR FELLOW AMERICAN. AS LONG AS THE PROBLEM IS AFFECTING EVERYONE BESIDES OURSELVES THE NORM IS “WHO CARES?” THE SECOND REASON IS GREED AND LIVING BEYOND OUR MEANS. INSTEAD OF SAVING MAKING THAT DOLLAR MEAN SOMETHING. WE JUST SPEND AND SPEND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES. WELL GUESS WHAT? THE JONES HAVE MOVED TO KUWAIT. THE THIRD ONE IS WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAS ALWAYS SAID ABOUT AMERICANS. AMERICANS WANT EVERYTHING THE EASIEST WAY WE CAN GET IT. WANTING THE BEST WAGES/SALARY WITHOUT EARNING IT. SO WE CAN THROW THE BLAME ALL OVER BUT IN THE END ITS OUR OWN FAULT. WE AS AMERICANS LET THE KISS ASSES RUN OUR GOVERMENT IN THE GROUND. WE USE TO BE AMERICANS THAT STOOD UP FOR WHAT BELIEVED IN, EVEN DIE FOR IT. NOW WE ARE JUST LIKE THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. FIGHTING AMONGS ONE ANOTHER. BUT WE HAVEN’T SEEN THE BAD TIMES YET. SO WHILE EVERYONE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE REALITY SHOWS ON TELEVISION WE BEEN IGNORING THE REALITY SHOW IN OUR SO CALL NEWS NETWORK. THERE WILL NOT BE A RE-RUN AND THIS WAS THE SHOW THAT HAS AND WILL EVEN MORE CHANGE YOUR LIFE PERSONALLY. BELIEVE ME I’M A TRUE AMERICAN THATS ALSO A GULF WAR VETERAN IS AS SCARED AS ANYONE ELSE OF WHAT WE HAVE LET HAPPENED. MAY GOD BLESS CAUSE WE’RE GOING TO NEED IT.
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They typo in my last comment was in the seond paragraph. Thesie note is for “Mike”…….sticky keyboard………..
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Black power…….hahahahahaha! Barack Obama is like an oreo cookie. Black on the outside so you think you are eatig a chocolate cookie, then you taste the white cream and realize, like Obama’s rhetoric, that it was all a lie!
Oh, and a note for “Mie”, the democratic party is the traditionally racist party; know your history! Jesus is not a democratic socialist, and just to make an even more far reaching statement, neither was Muhammad. Democrats are racists at heart, therwise, they would not be part of a political paty that has turned out presidents like Andrew Jackson, who was the first Democatic president; remember the trail of tears, that as Jackson and Obama has clearly said he thins of him as on of teh great democrats ever to grace the white house. Michelle Obama has never been proud of her country until her husband ran for office; Obamas politics re very similar to Jimmy Carter’s, she didn’t lie him, but she worships her husband? That is called being racist; that’s right, Michelle Obama is a racist herself.
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All greetings! I have fallen in love today:)))))
I wish to shout about love to all world !
Love this magnificent feeling:)))))
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Ok, here is my rant for the weekend. My mother has been working for Obama (nothing wrong with that), but what she has told me proves Sen. John Murtha is right. She has been told by many democrats that they aren’t voting for Obama because he’s black and this isn’t western PA, this South Eastern PA about 1 hours drive from Philly. I find this appauling that in the 21st Century there are still people with such small minds that they are basing their opinions on race. I know that maybe as many will vote for him for the same reason, but I would like think that they also agree w/ him on many of his stances too. I think America may need Obama to win to just finally prove that there are intelligent and stupid people no matter what race you look at to these narrowminded rednecks. My ex, the mother of my own children is this way, it was one of many reasons why we are no longer together too. The sad fact is my children know it too, and I have continuously tried to influence them otherwise. Fortunately they have both made friends with some hispanic kids that are really great kids. As a matter of fact they may be the most polite of all their friends when they come over. I am glad through life experience they are learning if for themselves.
I think it is pretty will known Obama was raised by whites and that his father lives in Kenya. So what, if anything I respect the fact that desopite the racism he has had to face from both sides of the fence because of what he was born into. People have no choice about what they are born, it is what they grow into and how they conduct themselves that deserves respect or disrespect, but no one deserves to be hated for their skin color. Yes, I am 90% white, 5% American Indian and possibly 5% black and others. Thats what happens when you live in a melting pot like America. If it didn’t we’d all be inbreed and nuts. The sad part is that whites just lump themselves as white now. We have forgotten our own heritages and plites we faced in America. My grandfather (PA Dutch) was sold as an indentured servant when he was a child, this was within the past 85 years right here in PA. My other grandfather, also of German descent was kicked out of his house at age 12 when his mother died, left to fend for himself. He lucked out and a aunt took him in, but still neither finished high school. They both went on to live the American dream to one degree or another. They both owned homes and sent their kids to college. That dream is in jeopardy for my kids and McCain has the same old tired, played out trick down theories that in a greedy nation like our don’t work. It is time to move in another direction.
I think any of these right winged evangelicals better reread their Bibles, Jesus is a Democratic Socialist. He would be insulted that preachers live in mansions and drive fancy cars like the ones these so called Righteous Christians follow. There is nothing wrong with a minister taking care of their family, but not to the extent they live in luxory. Jesus was disgusted with the Temples filled with gold and jewels taking from the needy in the name of praising God. “Spreading the wealth” is exactly what Jesus would do, so there is your answer to WWJD, STW is WJWD. Listen to the words you say before you say them and think, does this really make sense? If there is a God then surely the followers of this so called right winged conservatism better check their consciences before they leave this earth,and make some changes or an enternity of damnation will surely await them. So the idea of the Republicans using the word Socialism to scare Americans into thinking they are any less free is proposterous and playing on the stupdity of Americans and our completely inept public education system. The French, the nation we got our Constitution based from, is socialist. Yet every time the govt. there does something that the overwhelming majority disapproves of they take to the streets in protest and the government changes their position because it is what the people want. When is the last time a Federal politician has actually done that? Anyway, I’m done. Grow a backbone Americans, open your minds and stop all this nonsense in government. Obama may not be the perfect candidate, but McCain and even worse Palin, are a nightmare waiting to happen. I would hope Sen. Ron Paul would work with Obama across party lines on the immigration issues (i.e. the North American highway is a disasterous idea for too many reasons to list here), and working to trim govt. size in areas we don’t need them and put to good use the areas we do. I still think Sen. Paul should become an independent and work to start a movement before the next election that will bring a legitiment third party to the forefront. We need a third voice to break up Washington as usual. Yes I have made my mind up to vote for Obama because above all else he has proven that in light of a nasty campaign run by McCain/Paiin he has remained steady and level headed. He has tried to focus on the issues and that is what a President is required to do. Much as Gen Colin Powell stated as his reason for supporting him. Now there was a Republican that I would have voted for had he not gotten entangled in the current Bush Admin.
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Please, stop injecting your sophmoric, infantile comments into this site – you’re really only serving to make yourself appear incompetent to fulfill your American duty to vote for any elected official, let alone for a president. Your mindset (vote for him because he’s black) is already a problem – this is a vote for the one person who will steer this country’s direction for the next 4 years – not for prom king. Unfortunately, many people will be voting for the first time, because a “black man” is running for office – and guess what? He’s 1/2 black, and was raised by white people. Do you think that the people who are voting for him based on race know this? I’m not saying Obama isn’t a valid or powerful candidate – I just hate to think that he’ll win the election based on his skin color. As far as appearance, yes, he’s 1/2 black. As for his upbringing, college experience, etc, he’s as white as John McCain. So really, is he really the “Black Candidate” that the African-American community thinks he is?
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Vote OBAMA!!!
BLACK POWER!!!
Vote Big Trece!!!
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can’t we all just get along… and possibly stop slamming each other…
If McCain becomes president (which i don’t find possibly) we have a crazy woman as our Vice Prez in the white house… i would def. feel unsafe with her there. just my opinion. i’m going for OBAMA!!! he is so much smarter that that old fart… i mean come on did you watch the debates??? he looked like a total idiot and never made a point….
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Ok, here is a tax education for most of you coming from a tax accountant. McCain wants to cut the corporate tax rate to 25%, what he doesn’t tell you is he wants to eliminate several deductions that reduce the amount of taxable income for many domestic manufacturing companies (what we need more of!). In fact, what he doesn’t tell you is that 60% OF ALL AMERICAN CORPORATIONS PAY NO, NADA, ZIP, NONE, ZERO INCOME TAXES AT ALL! They also get to take years they have losses and apply those losses to 2 years back or 20 years ahead and apply them to years they have profits and reduce their taxes due by them, which I have personally seen a company with over $2million in net profits have to pay NO income taxes for that year because of this. Do we get to do that as individuals. If we are having to live on credit because our incomes don’t cover the cost of living do we get to say well I am actually in debt for the year so I’ll just apply that to my taxes 2 years ago when I wasn’t and get a bigger refund? Absolutely not, but businesses do! Now I am not against businesses being successful, as long as they take care of their employees well enought to live a reasonable life where they make at least a little more than what it costs to live, which means they have expendable income to support other businesses (i.e. the travel industry, the entertainment industry, retail industry, toy industry), but when CEO’s are getting the kind of bonuses they are and the salaries they are when their companies are losing money, that is criminal and I’ve heard no candidate say they are going to after these bastards. I think that would solidify any candidate given the current climate.
Here is some more information about the economy, this is not a natural down turn in the economy, this has been brought on by greed, fraud, and a sheer lack of proper regulation (thanks McCain!). The hedge funds are next, mark my words. Sarbanes Oxley has done nothing! We speak about this often at my office and many of us feel that there is much more rampant fraud in the big 4 accounting firms than anyone will dare to admit. There has to be, AIG, Lehman Brothers, Enron, Tyco, WorldComm, and the list is constantly growing are all being audited by the big 4 acounting firms (KPMG, Deloitte, PWC, E&Y) and where are the investigations at, where are the criminal charges at? We are not going to see a real fix to this until these CEO’s, CFO’s and these big firms start being afraid that they will be seriously prosecuted and lose everything because they are going to get the pant sued off them by their shareholders. By the way, they are the ones that really need to stand up, stop being so greedy themselves so that CEO’s are pressured into fudging numbers and demand ethics from these people and don’t reward them with mega millions for losing money.
Reagan once said “greed is good,” so much for the Republicans being the good Christian party. That is what got us into this mess, pure unadulterated greed, and we need to wake America, trick down economics does not work in a greed ridden society like ours. What happened to “I am my brother’s keeper?” Or “Do unto others as I would have them do unto me?” Hell, I’m not even religous and they make sense to me as a human being who respects life, love and the pursuit of happiness. Greed is not happiness, these rich bastards aren’t happy or they wouldn’t keep wanting more. The only reason they make charitable contributions is because they get to itemize them on their taxes. Corporations get to deduct them on their taxes to a certain limit and believe me they have accountants like me find out what that limit is and that’s what they donate (and oh yeah, if they go over that limit they get to carry that to next years taxes).
So when McCain talks about the US having the second highest corporate tax rate in the world, you now know that is a bunch of malarchy. They, most likely are not paying anything and if they are paying 35%, it is not on their total net income, but rather their taxable net income after several deductions that may ending reducing their tax liability to ZERO, which guess what? That’s as low as you can go without just giving them free money.
Sen. Ron Paul, please next election support someone who could honestly challenge both parties, and in the mean time could you pull a Liebermen and go independent. I believe you have some good ideas, some not so good ideas, but at least when I saw you debate I believed your convictions, you are just not the right person to do it by yourself. We need a strong third party that isn’t extreme on any view, and is more encompassing of everyone. Abortion should be left off the table because that is an issue all anyone can do is agree to disagree. I do believe that is an issue that could be left to states and those that have a majority that support it have it and those that don’t, do not have it. Partial birth abortions should be illegal, w/ verbage that states unless the mother’s life is in danger. No woman who has been subjected to rape or incest should have to carry any such pregnancy that might result and it would be a sheer lack of conscience for anyone to put them through that. That is having their own choice taken away from them 2x’s and that is just not right. Anyway, I’ve said my piece and given my tax lesson for the weekend. Maybe next time I’ll give one on Obama’s plan, because I don’t agree with all of his plan either. I just don’t think most Americans will be harmed by it as much as McCain’s. I don’t know anyone other than my uncle who makes anywhere near $250,000, and he can afford to pay more based on the mansion he lives in (he’s a stock broker, gee, imagine that). I do the taxes of those that do though, and most can afford to pay 3% more too, after all they don’t pay anymore social security than those that make approx. $100,000.
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there should be “write-in” ron paul shirts… info
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Marion Wilson
You better check yourself. Who are you to decide who is American? And you think Obama’s a terrorist? Get a grip on your Christian self righteous idiocracy!!! Pull your head out of your bible and think for yourself. You sound racist and it also sounds to me like you are worshipping false idols…..If McCain says he’s not a terrorist I believe him…..What the hell is wrong with you? McCain is not a God and he does not represent God or anything that is real or good in this world. What I saw when those two men debated is one man with composure and strength and compassion, and the other man coming loose at the seems who can’t make eye contact when it counts and when confronted on something looks down and pretends he is writing something. McCain has something to hide, it’s written all over his face. If you had any God given instinct….or I should say, if you chose to use it, you could see truth. I’m not here to endorse Obama, obviously if he made it this far he must be a puppet on some kind of level. I’m on a Ron Paul website because i like Ron Paul. But I had to comment on what you wrote because your blind way of thinking is so common and annoying and I can’t stand it.
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If you want Ron Paul, write him in. It is not a wasted vote. Voting for someone just because you think you have no choice…well, now that is a wasted vote.
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On the official ballot form, there is an oval box under the “President and Vice President of the United States” box. If people would realize that they have a choice for a write-in, why do we have to settle for McCain or Obama? Americans are sometimes like dumb beasts being led to the slaughter. If we want true change in our government, we must change. We must start caring about the issues. Hollywood has too much of our attention. We have allowed our love of sports and entertainment to lull us into a state of no real care or concern. It’s a crying shame.
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ron paul might of been able to save america but he was ridiculed by rep.and dem.ron paul says the war on prescription drugs is a medical mistake.war on fluoridation is the dental assoc.mistake.did you know fluoride rots your teeth?fluoride is in prescription drugs/water/our food etc.go to fluoridealert.org.
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I agree with Mike a little further up. This is a page about Ron P. Not Hillary, McCain, or Obama. I think most of the people that have posted on this blog have been defending the cookie cutter molds that Paul has been trying to tell you are a waste of your time. I say lets just try to survive through this next term and hope either Paul or someone that has adopted his philosophies runs in 4. I am only voting for McCain because the real major issue only him and Obama have are on abortion and I can’t bring myself to support someone who advocates such a procedure after I have seen what it does to families. (No Im not a christian.)Plus Obama seems to have socialist tendencies that bother me a bit. Either way I dont think either is the “savior” of America.
Thanks for your time.
BAJ
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Please everyone tell everyone you know to vote RON PAUL and to google his name and Peter Schiff’s names to learn the truth about who they are and why we need RON PAUL to be president so badly. Or go to Youtube write it down for them ,email them what ever you think will help them get the information.If you tell everyone you know and they tell everyone they know maybe we can get the word out in time. Dont even mention the names of the other canidates. Just say RON PAUL every chance you get.Please go now !!!!!!!!!
Yes your vote does count,dont vote for the other idiots because we are being told they are the only choice and we have to pick the best of the two. I am so sick of hearing about Obama and Mcain ,they have not said and intelligent word yet and the media is treating them like they are the only ones running?Give me a break people stand up for your rights and fight,the media is pulling the wool over alot of followers eyes that do not know how or where to look for the true information about RON PAUL!
Thank You , Cindy Fuson
Conrad,Montana
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John McCain told the American people that Barrack Obama is a good man, and he is not a terrorist. Now please hear me on this, I trust Mr. John McCain. He is an American. So if he says, then I believe. That should be a resounding, loud, comment. I apologize to Barrack Obama, I did get pulled into the media hype also. I Feel pretty dumb for it. I do know better. And God has been telling me to shut my mouth lately, but I didn’t catch on before now. So, my apologies to Mr. McCain, My Country, our President and Mr. Barrack Obama. I do feel very strong that Mr. John McCain is the man we need for the job, and is a true American. May God Bless America and guide us all in the right direction.
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Hi,
I believe you can write in still. But the problem with that is the chances the write in will do anything are slim to none. My Son also wants to show his support for Ron Paul. I am trying to tell him, his vote will not make a difference, but he wants to show Ron Paul he and others support him. That is how I raised him, to believe in what he believes in and not be swayed by others, stand his ground as long as it has good and justice behind it. So, I am stuck in a pickle this time with this one. But, the vote will not get him in office. Sad and sorry, but is a throw away vote. Wish we could all have our President, our ways as the Nation so supports the voice of all. We the people. But, since we have so lost the Constitution in special interest, that is not possible either. It is meant to be for the people, by the people, etc. but, special interest needs to be addressed. If you do not approve of this Nation, then go reap benefits else where. Otherwise, enjoy the Constitution this Country was founded on, and live equally as intended. And lets all keep our own sexual identity out of the government as well. It is not necessary. They kicked my God out, and watch the Nation fall for it, but makes no sense no one can see the writing on the wall. The more we loose God, the worse things get. The less the protections, prosperity, Less, the American way or dream.
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I think we should start a write-in campaign for Ron Paul. I have heard enough people say they are not going to vote because Ron Paul is not running that he might just win. People did not want these bailouts and the pork barrel that went with them. It is insane to say that a bankrupt government can provide “health care”, which is really disease care, for everyone. It is equally insane to say a bankrupt government can buy out all the bad mortgages and assure everyone the “American dream” of owning a house. The kind of real health care would be teaching people how to change their lifestyles and lessen their chances of being sick. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Disease care is bankrupting the country already. Insurance companies need to reward people who live healthfully, just like auto insurance rewards safe drivers. How can I vote for either candidate when I believe so much that they are going to make matters worse?
Is it possible to write-in these days or have we lost that right along with so many others? Americans need to be held responsible. Govt needs not continue to foster irresponsibility.
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Dear Ron Paul Supporters. Like you I also liked Ron Paul. My dilema is he cannot win right now. So we,as so many have recognized, have to make a vote that counts. First, I have to say, so many have bought into Obama’s rhettoric. Why would you believe a man when he talks about his opponent, so deeply as to when he says he is Bush? He is not Bush, even obama voted with Bush on issues. You can pick an choose and twist words all you want. But, I want to make one point very clear. I understand he appeals to the African American voters. I understand their identifying with him, but even them are not listening to his words. He speaks of big Government, Government control of the people. One prime example is the health care issue. Suppose you are out of work from a downsizing and cannot afford to buy into his own, personal interest, insurance plan? He is going to go after you and punish you. He is dictating. Everyone is snow blowed by he is going to pull out of Iraq. Are you listening to the rest of his words? We are going into Afganistan, we are going into Darfur, we are going to be at war. The cost of war is the cost of war, we will have no change, but because he is appealing to a certain race, no one is hearing his words. Does anyone realize Sarah Pallin has more experience then Barrack Obama? She is only running for the second seat not the first. Even Joe Biden tells us, he wants him by his side, at all times, even to correct him if he does not agree with him. That is Obama saying, I do not know what I am doing, and I want you to disagree if I make a mistake. Does anyone realize we have bridged the gap on racial relations. There are laws and so many things put in place to give the race a privaleged advantage, and yes I do know what I am talking about, and if you do not want to listen to me, listen to Bill Cosby, Collin Powell, two very intelligent men who do know what they are talking about. Anyway, In this terror ridden, “threatened Society”, we need to consider who molded Barrack Obama. Rev. Wright who hates America, the very Nation that supported him, the terror connections. now I will be the first to say do not judge, or birds of a feather never apply. however, all of Obama’s voting records, the facts, support this radical ideology. We do know one thing is for certain, McCain is without a doubt, American. He does have a separate voting record from Bush, but all need to remember, all the Democrats that voted to go into this war also, that Barrack also voted with Bush on this economic package, and we also know for certain, McCain is not a terrorist. We are not one hundred percent certain with Obama. Furthermore, if Obama abuses his own wife, what does he think of or will he respect you if he cannot support and respect the very woman he is supposed to love. ????, if you cannot run your own house, you do not need the big house. Obama will not answer the question regarding the draft. He is speaking a loud and resounding push toward the draft. McCain has denounced, said he does not support, agree with or etc. the draft. We know it does not work. I originally started feeling sorry for Obama and like you, did my homework as well. Check out You tube in his younger days. Smoking pot, our military cannot do that if they are visually without care smoking pot. People just do not understand the tax cuts. Just look at what you have paid into the Federal Government. The Bush tax cuts give all poor people every single penny back that they paid into the Government. So the support for the rich is a reach and another wash. When they get to their bottom dollar at the end of the return they are paying in, if they didnot pay enough at the end of the year. Your child tax credit, is a tax cut by Bush. Senator McCain has no and I repeat NO pork spending his entire time in the Senate. Obama has millions if not billions of your tax money, spent and planned spending. Who do you think is going to pay all the tax hikes he is proposing? YOU> He also is a far cry from Martin Luther King. Who entrusted the African American with a dream. Barrack Obama is telling you to dream, but be careful, don’t dream too big. He is calling a poor sap that will not make it to the two hundred thousand dollar range. Don’t believe him, with the college fund. You have to get into college to get that tax cut. In other words, you pay first, then get a tax write off, we “already have that”!, nothing new. He has also on the debate displayed his inability to respect guide lines. In his voting he has no regard for a nine month old baby, kill them, born alive or not. That is your baby, regardless of color. Why? he is betting you will be a poor person, he was raised illite, he doesn’t need poor people. He needs the rich, what he grew accustomed to. Back to health care, the plan he proposes, does not support pre existing, but what about if you forget to get your preventative mammogram for example. You will not be covered for your cancer if you come up with it later, because you did not get your preventative scan. Hefty, too hefty to bet on. People say McCain has lived a privaledged life. Ok, so what was that time he spent in captivity for his Nation? Most likely some of the worst living conditions any of us have suffered. He knows hard time and hard life. He knows restrictions, and dictation. Unlike Privaledged Obama with over $950,000.00 yr. income, of which he too got the tax cuts, but, is going to be tax exempt from what he is going to impose upon the American people. So how are his increases goin g to affect him, hahahahaha, not, not going to. never knew hard times. And even earlier had grandparents care even when his mother was young, so have to wonder how hard he ever had it. I would also like to mention the footage of the troops in Iraq. All spit shined and polished, just wanted to shake his hand and meet him. Haven’t seen anyone from the states in how long? He looked at them, turned his back and went into the mess tent. Yes, true, the cameras were rolling during this time. Lets not forget his support of the terror nations. Their idealisms in their nations and the idealisms of Barrack Obama. He supports terrorist ideas. We cannot afford to take a chance. Not to mention, during the debate, he barely squeaked out mentioning Iran, almost like I hope admadidajine isnot watching this right now, when mentioning the monies being made by oil countries. But he certainly did not mention the terror nations. And, much of the financial problems ourNation is having today is in regards to legislation by the Clinton white house, not the Bush white house. Bush has been faced with one Natural disaster, crisis, etc. after another. To include the war everyone else voted for and then just like wimps dumped it in his lap and ran. But, It is a sincere wonder how we did not fall before now. We know Senator McCain is an American. We know he is not President Bush, We know he loves his Nation and will defend it, to include the finances, and all the issues that face Americans today. He has served during war time and has enough intelligence to protect us alot more then what I like to call a well polished pretty boy sales man. If Obama had an ounce of concern in his body for life, yours, mine or anyone elses, he would not so strongly support the partial birth abortion that does nothing to save the mother and has no medical necessity at all. The only reason for it is murder. In fact itprolongs the birth process for the woman. She has to stop delivery while they kill the baby that is half out, then continue to push. Find medical necessity in that. A man with so little regard for life, has little regard for life. He is young enough. Wait four more years if you want Obama and let his true colors show. They will come out if he does not make it in this time. Watch the audacity and temper tantrum of a spoiled little terrorist bratt. No he isn’t Rev. Wright either, but, if that was being said in my Church, I would have gotten up and walked out. I would not sit there and do the Amen, and Praise God, in the midst of hatred. We are supposed to be closing the gap of hatred. not upholding it. You believe in what you believe. And he just supported this by not wanting to sport the Flag of this nation. He is grilled and prepped to hate America aa much as those terrorists hate us and want to kill us. We are in this financial situation because of them. This is beyond reasonable doubt. This man is a mistake, and one America may already know but too embarrassed to admit he got that far, being who he is. Don’t be blind, open your eyest o the truth, he is not the hope, he is the Anti Christ. It is all unfolding before our very eyes. Do not give in to the temptations of the evil one. and war is war, he changed his story n\on everythign he preached on from day one. I understand we grow as we learn, b ut much like McCain said, there is not time for on the job training. I do not agree with McCain on some issues either, but the worst of two evils? And I cant say McCain is evil. But he is behind and all know the evil seems to prevail in this country since we so boldly kicked God out of it. Then we want to wonder why we no longer have the protections, status, financials, and all the ills we face today. Kicking God out stripped this great nation naked and without protection, or any hope. And I will not bow down to this man nor worship Obama as you will all find yourself doing when he is in office. his body language dictates his hate, and his selfishness beyond a bold ignorance. He has no laws, no lines, he is in his own right, Obama. Vote American, Vote McCain this election. Be sure you are making the right choice for your Country, God,Man, humanity. Thank you. Remember, reasonable doubt. It isn’t there for Obama. McCain is an American.
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Well with all these great points and great support Ron doesn’t even let us vote for him ??!??!? If he can’t fight to get on the ticket then how can he keep yelling at us to change things?
why did he have to be so stubborn to stay a republican??
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Chuck, if you were so damn smart how come you still are dumb enough to think that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, that’s why we went to war in Afghanistan (a war that is still going on by the way), and if we really wanted to target who did it we should’ve attacked Saudi Arabia instead of protecting it from a dictator that we armed in the first place. Considering I was in the military during the Gulf War and also knew back then that Iraq was a threat to know one but Iran, and that war already happened and know one won (not that it ever stopped for the past thousand years until we gave them both someone to hate more, the US0). Iraq wasn’t a harborer of terrorists until we made it one.
As for the abortion issue goes, no I do not support aborted alive killings. This is actually the only the thing Sarah Palin has said that I agree with on, abortion should not be a Federal issue, but a state issue. This issue is so divided especially based on where you live (i.e. religious suppressive areas like the south in midwest, which is really just male dominating suppressiveness disguised as religious values). It is women that fought to legalize abortion back when they lived in a male suppressive America that had many women being raped and not having anywhere to go for help. No woman who has been raped or has been subjected to incest should ever have to go through having to have a baby that might result from such a horrific thing. To completely make abortions illegal as Sarah Palin has said in the past would be just going backwards on woman’s rights and lead to underground abortions being conducted that aren’t safe. Anyone, no matter what their opinion is can live in a Pro-choice world, but only Anti-choice believers can live in a Anti-choice world. This concept is un-American. I personally don’t believe in abortion, but I don’t conduct myself in a way that would ever make a woman have to use that as an option for an unwanted pregnancy. Enough on that subject because that endlessly will be debated to no avail.
As for Obama being a Marxist, that is almost laughable. Which side has been wire tapping, torturing (which to McCain’s benefit, does strongly oppose, use secret interrogation bases, supports censoring the media, books, libraries and has classified more documents than any other presidency in the history of America? Oh that’s right, the Bush regime. McCain’s voting record sides over 90% of the time with Bush, that is certainly not change. Again remember the Keating 5, that McCain was a major player in the downfall of the S&L’s in the 80’s, if for nothing else than not blowing the whistle on what was going on because his campaigns were financially supported by Keating. It was McCain that supported the deregulation of the banks and stock market that has helped create the rampid greed that we see in today’s CEO’s. And guess what, mark my words that this is only the tip of the iceberg (that has probably broken off due to global warming that is both cyclical and man made in nature): hedgefunds are next! I am disgusted that both candidates supported the bailout, I say let the market crash and sweep away the trash and start over, it has been overinflated for years now anyway. There is nothing to support it without manufacturing in the US, the only thing that is supporting it is credit. You can all blame Clinton for that, but Bush Sr. was going to sign an even more unregulated version of NAFTA if he would have won, which once again proves that when it comes down to it, neither side truly cares about the middle class and poor.
As for McCain’s “tax cuts,” learn the facts (you are debating a tax accountant by the way), he may want to lower the tax rate on businesses to 25%. but he also wants to take away many of their deductions & credits, such as the R&D credit. Which in the end means though a business may have a lower tax rate, they will have more taxable income, essentially making their what’s known as their effective tax rate the same as it is now. Besides the federal government can’t cut it’s only revenue source (taxes…duh) when it is $500,000,000,000.00 in debt. Can you afford a pay cut when prices are going up? No…again duh! So what makes anybody think that lowering the government’s revenue while our infrastructure is crumbling apart around us is going to help. If the government really wanted to bail out the credit crisis, why not give the money to the homeowners that are facing forclosure, then they could pay the banks, they the banks would have their money, people would have their homes and everything would be fine, but no, instead we keep applying the trickle down nonsense, which in a pathetically greedy nation like ours, only helps the already greed enriched households and leaves the middleclass left footing their bill. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a successful business, so long as your employees that work to give you that success can live respectable lives and not have to worry about their health and home for their families.
As for the Clinton’s, I have no doubt that they took advantage of their power to do what would be illegal for any common American, every politician in our government probably does to some degree, some not as bad as others. Poor judgement is what the government gets to call it when a politician does something wrong that would be criminal for the rest of us. SO yes they are probably criminals too. I am not so blind and don’t get my info. from left winged blogs, I lived through it (they didn’t have internet back then)!
As for Palin, I don’t want a president of a VP that thinks that winking at a crowd will win them over, how beauty pageant and pathetic. No one in the world would ever take her seriously! She couldn’t even name her own supreme court case, Alaska vs ExxonMobile. This whole election process has become cast of sideshow freaks. I don’t think Obama is a great choice, and I do think McCain is a horrible choice. Has anyone stopped to think about how McCain went from being out of money and way behind everyone in January and by March he was the clear front runner? Who did he sell out to? It is especially funny since most republicans I know hated McCain (thanks in part to the old Bush smear campaign against him in the 2000 nomination process) before he was nominated and now they have his bumper sticker on their car. Talk about blind loyalty to a party.
As for illegal immigration, both candidates suck on this issue. Reagan screwd up in the first place when gave the first round of amnesty to them. I think it is simple, send them back unless they can prove political amnesty period. Crack down on all employers, which of course will lead to dramatic increases in our produce since most farms hire illegal immigrant to harvest, but that is part of the process to taking back our country. I do believe we should make English the official language (by the way, I also believe in the right to own a gun to protect ourselves from an overly oppressive govt. like we are starting to have these past 8 years). Right away you start assuming, which we all know what that means, that you can know what all my other beliefs are because I am probably going to vote for a democrat. I support Ron Paul’s conspiracy theory about the highway from Mexico to Canada, talk about a drug trafficing, illegal immigrant trafficing, licensing nightmare! As far as actually putting up a fence along a border that is already has a river surrounded by dry desert land (for the most part, there are cities along the border like Laredo, talk about a drug plagued criminal disaster of a city), why do we need a mega million dollar fence, when what we really need is more border patrolmen and real sophisticated survailence equipment. Actually, what we really need is a government that stops letting Mexico tell us what to do with their people coming here illegally and tell them to straighten out their corrupt mess of a govt. and fix their economy so that their people won’t want to leave it in the first place.
As far as making govt. bigger, that is one thing Clinton didn’t do, he cut more govt. jobs than any of the past 3 republican presidents (he is still a crook, not for Monica though, that was just sleazy). Bush created the biggest, most wasteful and unnecessary dept. in decades, the Dept. of Homeland Security. What do we have the CIA and NSA for? Why are so many Americans so afraid? Do they subconscioulsy know our big businesses and government been meddling in other countries affairs for too long and so they might actually understand why so many in the world hate us? I am much more afraid of China than N. Korea, Iran, Iraq, Al-queda, Syria or whoever. We owe billions to the Chinese govt., which is where we have been borrowing the money from to fund the Iraq war, talk about pathetic judgement. We should have never normalized trade with China. They still oppress their people horribly, feed their own people poisoned food, can are now able to call the shots on our financial future since if they called in our loans from them our govt. would have to claim bankruptcy. All because our dictator we supported for decades decided to not listen to us anymore.
Okay, I have rambled on like Joe Biden without a time limit. But, hopefully you get my point, I am fed up with both sides and am now choosing what I believe to be a lesser of two evils, although I still might “throw a Ron Paul” as we like to say amongst a group of friends that are similarly fed up. If some of his other ideas weren’t so out there, I would no doubt be voting for Ron Paul; I like his stance on illegal immigration, the war, and a lot of his economic viewpoints. I just feel it is too important to not let Republicans win the Presidency again. The world will condemn us even more if we do. I will probably vote to keep my Republican congressman just to try and keep Dems from having too much control, I don’t like the idea of them having an overwhelming majority, because it will be just like the first 6 years of the Bush presidency, with just different positions. We need debate in America for America to truly work. Otherwise a large minority, or even the majority will be ignored. Just like this past week, when an overwhelming majority of Americans didn’t want a bailout of the banks, D.C. thought they knew better than the people they are supposed to be representing. In this modern world this shouldn’t happen anymore, especially when most Americans receive the same sort of education as each other now. We can no longer say the poor are uneducated, mayber undereducated, but they still aren’t ignorant because of their class. Although No Child Left Behind is doing a good job of trying to reestablish that. Woops, another topic I’m going to leave to another day. Obviously my button was pushed and I need to just stop.
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I would like to know what Hillary Clinton ever did except lie and she is only for her
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I can’t believe all the unintelligent things I’m reading here. As Mike Church says “liberals say the most damned dumb-ass things”. All any has to do is go to Obama’s website and got to the socialist party’s website and see that their platforms are exactly the same. Obama is a Marxist, there is no denying this. Barrack Obama as President is unacceptable (for all you true racists out there, it has nothing to do with the color of his skin but his utter absence of character).
As for Bush; he was right on the war(WE were attacked, remember 9/11) and on his tax cuts(which still benefit the middle class) but after doubling the size of government with a prescription plan that’s already bankrupt, supporting amnesty for illegals and open borders, and pushing this socialist “bailout” it is impossible to support him.
to Mike Drayer: 1. Do you think babies that survive abortions should be killed? Obama does. Although he prefers to vote “present” on tough issues, this is one he felt strongly enough to actually cast a vote. He not only voted against the “Born Alive Act” he actually gave speeches against it.
2. You libs sound really dumb when you say McCain is “Bush’s 3rd term”. Obama is Carter’s 2nd term.
3. You shouldn’t get your info from far left blogs. You should actually read about the Keating Five. There were no criminal charges and the Ethics Committee found only that McCain exercised poor judgement. Sidebar- I’ll bet you don’t throw the term “criminal around with the the Clintons, do you?
4. The S&L crisis and the present crisis we find ourselves in both had the same cause. The government had its tentacles in the economy, where it doesn’t belong. (Can you name one thing, besides the military, that the gov’t- any gov’t- does right?) Obama wants massively more gov’t, McCain wants a little more gov’t, and the light at the end of the tunnel, Sarah Palin, wants as little gov’t as possible. Tha choice is clear to me.
I’m realizing now we all were wrong on Ron Paul. He seems to truly know what needs to be done here.
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Anyone that says they were a Hilary supporter and isn’t voting for Obama and is voting for McCain is completely illogical! McCain is the exact opposite on women’s rights, the war and so many civil and domestic issues as Hilary is that is like saying I like George Bush but I’m going to vote for Obama. I have to be honest, I like what Ron Paul says on the economy, and immigration. My problem is I don’t want McCain to win, come hell or high water. We do NOT need another 4 more years of the same. Does anyone remember the S&L crisis in the 80’s and McCain’s involvement with the Keating 5? Do we really want a financial criminal as president when there is a financial crisis? I will probably throw the switch for Obama just to keep McCain & Palin out. It is time we do something to support more third parties that would might help bust up this status quo, but we need two better candidates in the first place so people won’t be afraid to throw their vote towards someone else in case they don’t win.
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I’ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. ‘I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.’ ‘I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.’ ‘Hey, wait a minute, there’s one guy holding out both puppts.’
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I have faith that Ron Paul would be a wonderful President. He has strong beliefs, tells it like it is and has a consistant voting record. He follows the Constitution. Pulls no punches and does not hide behind a bunch of mumbo jumbo and tired old cliches’.
He has my vote if I have to write him in.
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To all of the Ron Paul supporters here:
Why are you jumping ship to vote for Barr or Baldwin? Where are your convictions? We still have the power to write-in at the polls and I will be writing in Ron Paul in November. Want to send a real message? WRITE IN in November and say NO to the status quo and say NO to candidates that you really don’t wish to vote for.
Ron Paul……2008!!!!
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