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> <channel><title>Comments on: Freedom vs. Central Planning</title> <atom:link href="http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-08-25/freedom-vs-central-planning/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-08-25/freedom-vs-central-planning/</link> <description>Ron Paul is America&#039;s leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:43:57 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Neil Robinson</title><link>http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-08-25/freedom-vs-central-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-5522</link> <dc:creator>Neil Robinson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5522</guid> <description>Yeah.. If that Jesus guy had just gone along with the program he may have been made governor of Israel.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. If that Jesus guy had just gone along with the program he may have been made governor of <a
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5518</guid> <description>Hey Nathan,The war was one area i didn&#039;t agree with him on but i liked almost everything else. He&#039;s weak.  Very weak.  But i do agree with him on reducing government,taxes etc. etc.Like i said before... can&#039;t have everything.  I did vote for him to make a statement in the primaries and would support him if he was on the ticket.All good things must come to an end and it&#039;s over for him.  I guess i thought he would throw his support behind the winner of the primaries like everybody else once he realized he wasn&#039;t the choice.  The fact he didn&#039;t gave me pause to rethink what i had originally thought about him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nathan,</p><p>The war was one area i didn&#8217;t agree with him on but i liked almost everything else. He&#8217;s weak.  Very weak.  But i do agree with him on reducing government,taxes etc. etc.</p><p>Like i said before&#8230; can&#8217;t have everything.  I did vote for him to make a statement in the primaries and would support him if he was on the ticket.</p><p>All good things must come to an end and it&#8217;s over for him.  I guess i thought he would throw his support behind the winner of the primaries like everybody else once he realized he wasn&#8217;t the choice.  The fact he didn&#8217;t gave me pause to rethink what i had originally thought about him.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5515</guid> <description>I wish I were in fact a rich kid as you say, but unfortunately I am not. How ironic that you are now supporting a candidate who is extremely rich.If you no longer like Ron Paul or support his positions that is fair. The issue I take with what you said and further more with your reply, is that I doubt these would be your opinions today if Ron Paul were the candidate. If Ron Paul had won, he would not have changed his positions or been &#039;wimpy&#039; in your mind.However now that he has lost, you have seemingly reversed your opinions and world view. If Ron Paul had won he would have remained in favor of a troop withdrawal and in favor of not taking part in other global conflicts abroad. If you have always liked being the big kid on the block, why did you ever support Ron Paul in the first place? That stance is far removed from what he believes in.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I were in fact a rich kid as you say, but unfortunately I am not. How ironic that you are now supporting a candidate who is extremely rich.</p><p>If you no longer like <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> or support his positions that is fair. The issue I take with what you said and further more with your reply, is that I doubt these would be your opinions today if <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> were the candidate. If <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> had won, he would not have changed his positions or been &#8216;wimpy&#8217; in your mind.</p><p>However now that he has lost, you have seemingly reversed your opinions and world view. If Ron Paul had won he would have remained in favor of a troop withdrawal and in favor of not taking part in other global conflicts abroad. If you have always liked being the big kid on the block, why did you ever support Ron Paul in the first place? That stance is far removed from what he believes in.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5512</guid> <description>C. Jodon,Go get em tiger</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. Jodon,</p><p>Go get em tiger</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5505</guid> <description>Nathan,People like you need to get everything your way.  Quit acting like a spoiled little rich kid and get on board with McCain-Pailin.  That is why we have a primary.  He lost fair and square. I will not let Obama win an election because of me being stubborn.I also now think Ron Paul is wimpy.  I like the fact that we stick up for the little guy.(Georgia)(Iraq) I hope our country always has the courage to do the best we can in this regard.  We should just do a better job of using a heavier hand of force when we do decide to commit to war.  If we did, the other countries would start purring like kittens.I like being the big guy on the block to protect others from the bullies.  You can go suck your thumb in the corner and look the other way and the rest of us will stand up to evil in this world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p><p>People like you need to get everything your way.  Quit acting like a spoiled little rich kid and get on board with McCain-Pailin.  That is why we have a primary.  He lost fair and square. I will not let Obama win an election because of me being stubborn.</p><p>I also now think <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> is wimpy.  I like the fact that we stick up for the little guy.(Georgia)(Iraq) I hope our country always has the courage to do the best we can in this regard.  We should just do a better job of using a heavier hand of force when we do decide to commit to war.  If we did, the other countries would start purring like kittens.</p><p>I like being the big guy on the block to protect others from the bullies.  You can go suck your thumb in the corner and look the other way and the rest of us will stand up to evil in this world.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5490</guid> <description>@ JayClearly you do not understand what it means to have principles and stand for something you believe in. For Ron to compromise his own principles, solely to support another candidate, would be for him to disregard everything he stands for.Too many people stand for nothing and cannot understand what it means for another to hold true to their beliefs, especially in the face of adversity.Ron may not be a candidate, but he has earned and maintains more respect than most if not all politicians for the very reason you criticize him - he is committed to real change and is unwavering about that and will not endorse values he does not believe in, rightfully so.He many garner your favor for abandoning what he believes in to support John McCain, but many of his supporters would likely abandon him if he were to do just that.It is unfortunate that his message and what it means to stand for something is lost on you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jay</p><p>Clearly you do not understand what it means to have principles and stand for something you believe in. For Ron to compromise his own principles, solely to support another candidate, would be for him to disregard everything he stands for.</p><p>Too many people stand for nothing and cannot understand what it means for another to hold true to their beliefs, especially in the face of adversity.</p><p>Ron may not be a candidate, but he has earned and maintains more respect than most if not all politicians for the very reason you criticize him &#8211; he is committed to real change and is unwavering about that and will not endorse values he does not believe in, rightfully so.</p><p>He many garner your favor for abandoning what he believes in to support John McCain, but many of his supporters would likely abandon him if he were to do just that.</p><p>It is unfortunate that his message and what it means to stand for something is lost on you.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5432</guid> <description>Dear Ron,I&#039;ve lost all respect for you.  I voted for you during the primary and you lost.  Why can&#039;t you get on board with McCain like everyone else?  Is your ego that big?  Get off your high horse and get on board with McCain-Pailin and try again in 4 years like everybody else!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ron,</p><p>I&#8217;ve lost all respect for you.  I voted for you during the primary and you lost.  Why can&#8217;t you get on board with McCain like everyone else?  Is your ego that big?  Get off your high horse and get on board with McCain-Pailin and try again in 4 years like everybody else!</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5395</guid> <description>drevik, mvr and Mark Ramina need to Google &quot;surplus value.&quot; The solution isn&#039;t to grovel to a different capitalist for a higher wage, it is to cut the capitalist middleman out of the equation and take home ALL the value earned by the worker, minus overhead. There is no reason the market cannot continue as-is, with businesses owned and run by the workers. We the people should cut out the capitalist like we cut out the king.Further, mvr is simply another ignorant Internet libertarian who doesn&#039;t understand the origins of right-wing libertarianism, which is a relatively recent phenomenon. The &quot;definition&quot; of libertarianism was originally left-wing, because its originators understood the issues I&#039;m discussing, unlike the simple-minded von Mises disciples who hijacked the term.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drevik, mvr and Mark Ramina need to Google &#8220;surplus value.&#8221; The solution isn&#8217;t to grovel to a different capitalist for a higher wage, it is to cut the capitalist middleman out of the equation and take home ALL the value earned by the worker, minus overhead. There is no reason the market cannot continue as-is, with businesses owned and run by the workers. We the people should cut out the capitalist like we cut out the king.</p><p>Further, mvr is simply another ignorant Internet libertarian who doesn&#8217;t understand the origins of right-wing libertarianism, which is a relatively recent phenomenon. The &#8220;definition&#8221; of libertarianism was originally left-wing, because its originators understood the issues I&#8217;m discussing, unlike the simple-minded von Mises disciples who hijacked the term.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=142#comment-5374</guid> <description>Both parties are showing ads with huge banks of industrial corporate windmills.All middlemen should be minimized wherever possible.  Replacing our dependence on oil by building a corporate windpower industry just maintains the idea that we (as in &quot;the people&quot;)are dependent.  How about home generated power?  Removing individuals from the grid one at a time sure seems like a better solution.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both parties are showing ads with huge banks of industrial corporate windmills.</p><p>All middlemen should be minimized wherever possible.  Replacing our dependence on oil by building a corporate windpower industry just maintains the idea that we (as in &#8220;the people&#8221;)are dependent.  How about home generated power?  Removing individuals from the grid one at a time sure seems like a better solution.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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