Paul, Baldwin, McKinney, Nader: We Agree




The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation.  However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.

We Agree

Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.



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  4. same as it ever was

    The Wall Street Bailout Bill:
    Bush McCain Obama et al.

    The Realignment Of American Politics:
    Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura

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  5. With all due respect, Mr. Paul, your decision to back the independent candidates is just plain stupid. Do you recall the election when Ralph Nader’s candidacy basically got us 8 years of George Bush? Your misguided, ill-thought out decision could quite possibly help elect the most fascist Republican to the White House that this country has ever seen. If Sarah Palin wins you will be held accountable for your folly

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  7. The "Lesser of Two Evils" is the reason why America is in the
    condition we are in now (Debt, Finical turmoil, loss of the
    Constitution ect...)!

    The sooner "WE THE PEOPLE" break the REP-DEM Monopoly the sooner
    we will be able to vote for "The Best Candidate" and not just
    "The Better of the two Evil Candidates".

    It's very simple! With Competition you get better product !
    With a Monopoly you get screwed !

    Once we open up the US Voting system to allow candidates out side
    the REP&DEM Parties, only then will we be able to vote out "ALL"
    Bad/Corrupt Parties ! And only good/benevolent Parties will stay
    around ! Thus America will win !

    Any America who votes for a "KNOWN CORRUPT PARTY" to lead America
    is by definition a Traitor!!!

    P.S. The REP&DEM Parties have proven themselves to be Corrupt!

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  9. Ross Perot's effort to run for president is not why Clinton got elected. To deny any individual the option to run for high off and limit our pseudo democracy would be by pure definition heresy. To embody democracy means to provide freedom, to have three candidates or twenty. What the two primary parties have done is limit competition. This is not how democracy is defined.

    C. Hall and like minded people, I ask you to study your history. That's right, take a look at history. George Washington's second term in office had six people share in the Electoral College vote, Jackson and Van Buren had five competitors, Lincoln had four competitors receiving Electoral College votes, and Grant had seven!

    Many elections through the years had three. No where is it written that Americans should ONLY vote for one of the two party candidates. Lincoln, recognized by many as perhaps the greatest president in our history ran for a party that with his election, he became the first Republican to get elected. There was only one Republican prior to Lincoln to ever run for president. In essence, Lincoln was a third party candidate.

    The American people are tired of watching both the Republican and the Democrats perform the shell game and the pea in front of them, tired of being tricked with phony promises, high taxes, government failure to control spending, and particularly the foolish spending on foreign nations when we fail to take care of our own.

    Ron Paul is correct when he says the two parties are basically one, representing only those represented by lobbyists in Washington. The analogy I like to use is that the Democrats and the Republicans are nothing more than zebras, one party having the black stripes, one the white stripes, and frankly, I cannot tell them apart.

    History teaches us everything, and history repeats itself, that is certain. If those that follow do not learn the lessons from the past, what should happen but folly. John McCain would have us build a treaty to protect the Ukraine, Georgia and other former satellites of the former USSR with what end in mind? So, that the USA can go to war with Russia? Is that what we want, the world at war again?

    It is mighty hypocritical for the USA to chastize Russia for their confrontation with Georgia when we presently occupy Iraq with our military.

    Today in America we throw the word WAR around rather cavalierly, implying we are at war with who? I missed it. Only Congress has the ability to declare war, and yet there is no declaration of war.

    And would a country like ours allow 100,000 - 200,000 of its enemies to come to its shores if we were at war with them? Every year we have a lottery where 50,000 names are drawn out of the hat, and these people are given green cards to come to America and experience the great dream. Since 9/11, roughly 15,000- 18,000 each year come from countries like Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, and Afghanistan.

    Wasn't it George Bush as president that said nations that support terrorism are our enemies? Why then, would we allow these people to come to our shores during a state of war? Can you see 100,000-200,000 Germans or Japanese coming to America between 12/7/41 to 8/7/45 to become citizens of America? No. We allow the people above, and their extended families to come here, and we are at war right? Does this make sense.

    I am so tired of hearing, well I am going to vote for this one, or that one, because they are the lessor of two evils. For once America, vote for someone that stands up and believes in what you believe. If that person is a third party candidate, he may not win this election, or the next, but eventually that candidate, or that party he/she represents will have a grass roots following that will rise up and support him/her as they did Lincoln, and perhaps finally the American people will experience representation in Washington for the first time in 50 years.

    Vote for a third party candidate if the primary two party system does not represent you , and continue to do so until the next Lincoln emerges.

    Below is the Electorial College vote for Lincoln's first term:

    Abraham Lincoln Republican 180
    John Breckinridge Democratic 72
    John Bell Const. Union 39
    Stephen Douglas Democratic 12

    To use the logic of C. Hall, if Lincoln had not run, maybe one of the other candidates could have won, and we as Americans would have lost the legacy of perhaps our greatest president.

    Every American needs to dispell the idea that a vote for a third candidate is a wasted vote and embrace teh notion that we are going to put a candidate in office one day that is a third party candidate, and that person's focus will be to focus on America and the American people.

    In almost eight years with Bush as president, how often have you heard your leader speak about America, and what he is doing for America, particularly the American economy? Seldom is the correct answer.

    Vote best candidate, vote third party. These words should fall off the lips of all that love America and what it stands for in the world.

    Remember, Lincoln was a third party candidate!

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  10. nader PAUL mckinney

    The American Ruse &
    when Black Friday comes.

    Honesty or lies?
    Compassion or greed?
    Intelligence or narrow-minded?
    Guts - or go along to get along?

    Ralph Nader
    Cynthia McKinney

    Ron Paul
    Mike Gravel
    Dennis Kucinich

    Jesse Ventura
    H. Ross Perot
    President Carter
    JFK RFK MLK Malcolm

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  11. Newbie doing research on Ron Paul. Sounds great but what's the use if he dropped out of the race. I can't get excited about someone who is full of great ideas but offers no choice at the ballot box. Really got me excited until I found our he isn't even running anymore. What a let down. I have no desire to email Ron Paul's website to my liberal democratic family who votes democrat but really holds the values of Ron Paul but just don't know it. They would really be moved but would suffer the same frustration I just now have as, once again, is a dead end road at the ballot box. Most people don't even read in this country, let alone take the time to investigate their government or educate themselves period. Too busy entertaining themselves and working. Maybe if we educated people first and define the words we use, the uneducated masses would get it.

    Ron Paul is a paleoconservative, as am I. Never heard the term from any conservative source until I accidently came upon it myself. Speeches and explaining your ideas of government are fine, but an education process has to come first to the masses before they will really be moved, defining the words themselves. As we know most people do not read, but if a campaign of educating them first on the Internet, starting with the fundamentals of defining words and ideas first is launched, then maybe Ron Paul or another paleoconservative can really win the hearts of the people next time.

    After the election and as soon as everything is settled with whatever candidate is elected, I plan on doing just that within my small group of contacts. They are going to start getting emails with short little lessons on Government 101. :))

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  12. Barr is not a neocon, he's a conservative libertarian - read his positions at www.bobbarr2008.com.

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  13. "Dear patriots, please consider this tactic for the up and coming presidential race..."

    The problem is that Barr is basically a neocon.

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  14. Hey Cheong, U got 2 be kidding ? Right ? There are no immoral corrupt repubic ans???, Please go to Ob-ammass' camp, He needs 3 blind mice - Didn't Reagan sign for 3-4 million illegals, and give the green light to Union Bust & STEAL from the SSI FUND AND GIVE IT TO FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TRUST FUND ? so the gd federal Government could grow into what it is TODAY ??? AT MY FING EXPENSE,,, I WISH JODY FOSTER HAD SAID " I LOVE YOU JOHN " MAYBE HIS AIM WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER, I DON'T NEED SOME B ACTOR WITH SOME SHT EATIN GRIN SAYING " WELL THERE YOU GO AGAIN " WHILE HE IS TRICKLE DOWN STRANGLING EVERYONE WHILE HIS CORPORATE PUNKS ARE GETTING RICH, & GEORGE BUSH IS A MORON Just Like about 90% the Fake Politicians we have In Office FTS

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  15. Amen!!

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  17. Bob Barr has invited Ron Paul to join him the the Libertarian Party's ticket for the 2008 election.

    Barr will be on 46-48 state ballots across the United States of America.

    If you are a Ron Paul supporter and you want to have the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul ON THE BALLOT, then I encourage you to encourage Ron Paul to join Bob Barr's presidential bid.

    Ron Paul can still run for re-election for his congressional seat (he is unopposed) while he joins Bob Barr as his Vice-Presidential candidate.

    Think of the possibility of Barr/Paul jumping to +15% in the polls and Ron Paul debating Joe Biden and Sarah Palin on a national stage.

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  18. Dear honorable congressman Ron Paul: I support always any Republican inspite of any mistake a Republican makes because Republicans's principle is morally sound and Americans should never forget that government's only 2 duties are to keep moral laws such as death sentence(genesis chater8),traditional marriage,and repect of life, and secondly subduing criminal nations just like subduing local rebels. When morality dies everythingelse dies too. Right now, America is at the most perilous time because our fight is Morality(Republican) vs Immorality(democrats. Democrats are against death sentence, traditional marriage,respect of life and against Irac war)You must support McCain against Obama, the Muslim(Ask Dr.James Dobson about Obama's ridiculing Bible,God,Jesus, and Christians. Only Muslims do that.)America founded and nurtured in Chritian faith, the only religion given by God,so that blessed by God to be the strongest and richest nation in human history is now dying due to declining Morality with the dangerous only pagan religion growing fastest in America, Muslim. America must protect Israel(Read Genesis12:2-3carefully).Thank you.Intai Cheong, Richmond Hill, GA

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  19. Dear patriots, please consider this tactic for the up and coming presidential race. Present this idea to the candidates outside the two party stranglehold. Why could we not have Chuck and Bob draw straws for the run, pledging the losers supporters to the winner and also picking up supporters of Ron Paul and the delegates?? We have little time, I would pledge my support and I think for the love of country a lot of other selfless patriots would do the same. With Ron's existing network and Chuck and Bob's supporters we could give the neocons HELL!

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  20. With all due respect, Mr. Paul, your decision to back the independent candidates is just plain stupid. Do you recall the election when Ross Perot's candidacy basically got us 8 years of Bill Clinton? Your misguided, ill-thought out decision could quite possibly help elect the most leftist Deomcrat to the White House that this country has ever seen. If Barack Obama wins you will be held accountable for your folly.

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