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  16. >The Tea Party’s religious roots exposed | Sarah Posner | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk | Blake’s Blog

    [...] Paul ran as a Republican, he later endorsed the nominee of the Constitution party, Chuck Baldwin, a pastor and activist who convened a [...]

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  17. >The Tea Party’s religious roots exposed | Sarah Posner | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk | Blake’s Blog

    [...] Paul ran as a Republican, he later endorsed the nominee of the Constitution party, Chuck Baldwin, a pastor and activist who convened a [...]

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  19. Ron Paul, Libertarians; Republican Party crashers? | Political Ponderings

    [...] primary candidates fail miserably to secure a coveted spot. Paul’s 2008 presidential endorsement of the Constitution Party’s, Chuck Baldwin, serves as a model for his Libertarian lackeys. [...]

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  20. GOP party crashers-Ron Paul Libertarians and the Republican Liberty Caucus | Political Ponderings

    [...] primary candidates fail miserably to secure a coveted spot. Paul’s 2008 presidential endorsement of the Constitution Party’s, Chuck Baldwin, serves as a model for his Libertarian lackeys. [...]

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  21. The Tea Party’s religious roots exposed | Sarah Posner

    [...] Paul ran as a Republican, he later endorsed the nominee of the Constitution party, Chuck Baldwin, a pastor and activist who convened a [...]

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  22. The Tea Party’s religious roots exposed | Sarah Posner

    [...] of his politics, and of many Tea Party activists. Although Paul ran as a Republican, he later endorsed the nominee of the Constitution party, Chuck Baldwin, a pastor and activist who convened a [...]

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  27. Rick G.

    In the end I wrote in Ron Paul for president. I couldn't vote for a third party with a clear conscience and I knew that would be an exercise in futility. Even though I knew that my vote would not count I had the hope that possibly someone was counting votes out there and would know how many registered Republicans voted for Ron Paul.

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  29. Caleb Sanburn

    Thank you Ron Paul for standing up for what America should be. My prayers are with you and will always support you.

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  30. Lance Heard

    Eric, I wonder if some of the 2012 strategy is short sighted. For example, history has shown that the strength of the 3rd party is based upon the candidate. Without any cohesiveness or agreement amongst the coalition that would represent supporters of the 3rd party, access in 2012 will be wasted as the Democratic and Republican machines attack the the 3d party and weaken its ability to attract mainstream members of their respective parties. These two issues point to my main concern which is; we need to believe in our group as one that can come to agreement and support one candidate more than we need to spend our energy on access in 2012. Can we form a consesus? Can we find the popular candidate now? If not then access seems pointless in 2012.

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  31. Lyndon Olson

    Nancy makes several excellent points. As the mainstream media all but ignore Baldwin and other alternative candidates even before the election, it's a safe bet that, after the election, they won't interview a lot of Baldwin voters as part of an in-depth analysis of what drove them. They'll draw their own conclusions, if they notice at all. Who knows--if they do get detailed enough to conclude that Baldwin got support from the left and the right, they could attribute it to the voters not knowing which "Baldwin brother" they were voting for.

    As Nancy notes, a clearer way of making your intentions known would be to focus on other options, such as other races in which there are candidates who truly echo Ron Paul's message, pushing for Dr. Paul to be selected as a Cabinet member or top advisor (just as in the presidential race, there's value in the campaign, even if he doesn't get the job), and incessantly pressing elected officials to consider our views on the issues (combined with ongoing outreach to the public on the same points).

    I don't think this is an either-or proposition, though. There's still some value to increasing the vote totals for the alternative candidates. Granted, the media might perceive Baldwin voters as Huckabee supporters on steroids, Nader and McKinney supporters as anti-capitalist fanatics, and Bob Barr supporters as ultra-conservatives with an anarchist streak, but it will prompt a certain amount of consideration of what these "protest votes" have in common, which will benefit our efforts in the other areas Nancy suggested. As for voting in other races and not for president, the question of whether or not the media would notice this might be trumped by the comparable shortage of ideal options in the other races as well. If you're fortunate enough to have a Ron Paul supporter running for a lesser office on your ballot, that's great, but should we, for example, agree to vote for any member of Congress who voted against the bailout bill, even if ours is someone we totally oppose on some other issues? Tough call...

    In short, though, the best way to avoid sending the wrong message is to put your exact message in your own words, and share it with elected officials, the media, and the public at every opportunity. We owe Nancy a big "thank you" for reminding us that we have other options, and for suggesting some very good ones to us.

    It wouldn't be practical here to try to referee the ongoing debate between Randy and his critics, but I was curious about one passing remark from Randy that began with "When 'former' CIA agent Bob Barr rammed a shiv into Ron Paul's back..." Considering how elaborately Randy argues for his position on other points, I was surprised to read such a hostile accusation with no evidence or explanation offered for it. Even those of us who make some effort to keep up with what's happening don't always get all the news about everything. If someone is going to make that harsh an attack on someone, particularly a candidate who stands against the major party candidates in supporting our positions on major issues, shouldn't that critic offer some evidence to justify the charge, instead of just assuming that we're all reading all of the same blogs and agreeing with what they say?

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  32. Nancy

    It is my personal opinion that there's a serious problem with voting for Baldwin. I believe it will set back all the ground we have made with Dr. Paul, because we won't be able to control the media interpretation of the votes. Ron Paulers may be voting for Baldwin for economic and individual freedom reasons and the media, having no way of knowing just why Baldwin got votes, can claim that he got them for Christian Right reasons and then if it comes out that it was Dr. Paul encouraging those votes, then a link will be made, rightly or wrongly, that Dr. Paul is about being Christian Right and anti-gay and goodness knows what else, instead of staying focussed on the economy and the sovereignty of America and the Constitution and all else he believes in. I just can't bring myself to believe that by voting for "someone else" does me any good.

    I feel like I just don't have a choice for President but luckily for me I have a Congressional choice where I live - a guy that is running for Congress on the Ron Paul platform, inspired by Ron Paul and I believe our efforts should be thrown into voting in Congress Reps and Senators on even the local level (State Congress and Senators) on the Ron Paul platform and making constant emails and phone calls to all of them constantly long after Nov 4th to let them know how we want them to vote. I just feel like no matter what we do on this Presidential election we won't be heard unless we had a huge turn out of ballots that voted for all the local stuff and left the Presidential part blank. Do they report on that if it were huge? Would there be a report of 5% or 10% of the people who voted but left the presidential part blank?

    I am also pushing both the Obama and McCain camp to select Dr. Paul as Treas Secr for their cabinet and at the very least, an economic advisor. It just seems like something that CAN be done - not the accomplishment of, but the pushing. Let the Obama camp (assuming he wins) get hundreds of thousands of emails and phone calls asking for the appointment of Dr. Paul. And let that hit the news. Why not marches with signs calling for the appointment of Dr. Paul to a cabinet position regardless of who wins? Why can't that be all over the news and airways? Let whoever the winner is be shamed and targeted by a substantial % of the American people want fiscal conservatism. I vote for pushing for Dr. Paul for a Cabinet position and that will make the news more candidly and flagrantly than voting someone who reflects Dr. Paul on some issues but not others and therefore, all our votes could become misinterpreted. Just a thought. Interestingly for me, I will be overseas for a long time starting right after the election so I'll get to hear what the international community thinks of all this.

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  33. Fluidly Unsure

    [Randy]Nobody’s asking you to “commit” to the CP. [/Randy]

    No, the CP isn't. They only say it shall be required (of him shall be much required). It was Baldwin's web-site that claimed we must "commit" to "almighty god". His words, not mine. They also are using a forked tongue when they claim we can determine for ourselves but then tells us what we must determine. (may each of us determine for ourselves–and commit to Almighty God).

    [Randy]You can vote for Chuck Baldwin without having to join the party,[/Randy]

    Right after I vote for Nader even though I don't want any of the policies he says he wants.

    [randy]Nobody’s asking you to “commit” to the CP.[/randy]

    However, Baldwin's web-site says you must "commit" to a view of God that I do not hold true. The Cp's site implies that you must be willing to go back to the "Christian Foundation".

    [randy]If the Crusades had never occurred, you’d be living under Sharia law right now[/randy]

    Maybe. If the attitude during the Crusades continued and my relatives survived not fitting in (Scottish Irish), then I probably would be killed either by the Roman church or a Calvanistic protestant. I wonder, is OBL simply a reincarnation of John Calvin or Pope Urban?

    [randy]Not surprisingly, both of those virtually worthless parties are secular in nature.[/randy]

    Oh really? That is not the image the press gives of Palin's or Bush's religious beliefs.

    [randy]The sadly mistaken notion that secular governments are somehow “superior” when it comes to securing personal liberty, is quite simply laughable.[/randy]

    I know. When did I claim secular governments were "superior"? I don't remember doing so for 30 years at least.

    [randy]we’re not interested in compromising our beliefs[/randy]

    The reason I was impressed with Ron Paul is that he is willing to work with others. It is ok to disagree with RP, but I'm afraid the CP will take a radically different approach. One that will make these last 8 years seem like paradise.

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  34. Randy

    [Fausticus]wow, good job…keep it up. You’re doing a better job discrediting yourself than any opponent could.[/Fausticus]

    I haven't discredited myself at all. In fact, I've corrected false representations about the CP made by you and others here. You have yet to successfully refute anything I've said.

    If you oppose the CP's religious beliefs, fine. Don't vote for Chuck Baldwin. I bear you no malice for that.

    But at least present some in-depth intellectual arguments, rather than making cheap-shots and false representations.

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  35. Fausticus

    wow, good job...keep it up. You're doing a better job discrediting yourself than any opponent could.

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