Comments on: Ron Paul on the Bailout Proposal http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited, constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:44:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: jack parler http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-17294 jack parler Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:20:06 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-17294 I like this theme you are using... what is it? I like this theme you are using… what is it?

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]]> By: bryan coyle http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-11817 bryan coyle Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:54:01 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-11817 hi I think this hole ball out stuff is very very very bad the dollar is going to become pen less if this is keep up in the Constantino they say that if the people do not have control over the the government then there children with awake on a Sheree with nothing on there back and be in debt to others will on there land with that there for fathers fought and die for.... we need to go back and read that if we do not we will end up like that tex in the Constantino.... I have disagree with Ron Paul on his war strategy and his drug possalse but besides that i think hes a great man hope we will run again in 2012 seeing as I think the ppl will be feed up of obama seeing as he will fudge us up really good and will maybe ready to lisson to what you have to say and elect you in to the white hose hi I think this hole ball out stuff is very very very bad the dollar is going to become pen less if this is keep up in the Constantino they say that if the people do not have control over the the government then there children with awake on a Sheree with nothing on there back and be in debt to others will on there land with that there for fathers fought and die for…. we need to go back and read that if we do not we will end up like that tex in the Constantino….

I have disagree with Ron Paul on his war strategy and his drug possalse but besides that i think hes a great man hope we will run again in 2012 seeing as I think the ppl will be feed up of obama seeing as he will fudge us up really good and will maybe ready to lisson to what you have to say and elect you in to the white hose

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]]> By: Bob Fitz http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6218 Bob Fitz Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:16:00 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6218 What is the status of Executive Order 11110 signed by JFK? What is the status of H.R. 2755: Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act? What is the status of Executive Order 11110 signed by JFK?

What is the status of H.R. 2755: Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act?

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]]> By: sikofdbs http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6209 sikofdbs Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:40:56 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6209 I have feared for my country for a long time. Those in power (and those behind the scenes who control them ) have been working to destroy her for quite some time. This sellout could be the final fatal blow. God help us. Hope you don't mind my injection of a few comments from some patriots. * "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people. It is an instrument for the people to restrain the government .. lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." (Patrick Henry) * "An act of the congress of the United States which assumes powers not delegated by the Constitution is not law, but is althgether void and of no force." (Thomas Jefferson) * "Liberty will not long survive the extinction of morals." (Samuel Adams) “Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.” (Thomas Jefferson) I have feared for my country for a long time. Those in power (and those behind the scenes who control them ) have been working to destroy her for quite some time. This sellout could be the final fatal blow. God help us.
Hope you don’t mind my injection of a few comments from some patriots.

* “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people. It is an instrument for the people to restrain the government .. lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” (Patrick Henry)

* “An act of the congress of the United States which assumes powers not delegated by the Constitution is not law, but is althgether void and of no force.” (Thomas Jefferson)

* “Liberty will not long survive the extinction of morals.” (Samuel Adams)

“Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.” (Thomas Jefferson)

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]]> By: Eric Bott http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6150 Eric Bott Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:45:43 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6150 How much of this is Wall Street's blame and how much of it is Congress' fault in creating a playing field that encouraged poor lending practices in the private sector to effect a utopianistic social policy. If one claims that Congress is implicit in the affair, than why only denounce the merchants, who after all did what merchants do - try to make as much money as the law will allow. What,if any, responsibility should Congress bear in this; and what, if any, should the Executive Branch bear by signing the legislation and then later via lack of regulatory attention? Not to excuse them in any way, but I would like to know more about the 'cause-effect' here beyond just the greed of the merchant. One may be right that Secretary Paulson is effectively cleaning up his own mess, but might that not also be what Congress is also doing? e bott How much of this is Wall Street’s blame and how much of it is Congress’ fault in creating a playing field that encouraged poor lending practices in the private sector to effect a utopianistic social policy. If one claims that Congress is implicit in the affair, than why only denounce the merchants, who after all did what merchants do – try to make as much money as the law will allow. What,if any, responsibility should Congress bear in this; and what, if any, should the Executive Branch bear by signing the legislation and then later via lack of regulatory attention? Not to excuse them in any way, but I would like to know more about the ’cause-effect’ here beyond just the greed of the merchant. One may be right that Secretary Paulson is effectively cleaning up his own mess, but might that not also be what Congress is also doing?

e bott

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]]> By: Tom from New York http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6148 Tom from New York Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:41:06 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6148 Bail out once, bail out twice, don't be so concise. In other words if they do this, how long before they have to do it again. You can only go into so much debt before the bottom falls out. They say there are safe guards in place to keep the stocks from going into a depression. They said the same thing about the Titanic. Ron Paul should be president, for he is the only one who knows what to do, and understands the situation better than anyone else. God bless Ron Paul and God bless the USA. Lets hope and pray they will do the right thing, and keeps us from going under. Bail out once, bail out twice, don’t be so concise.
In other words if they do this, how long before they have to do it again. You can only go into so much debt before the bottom falls out. They say there are safe guards in place to keep the stocks from going into a depression. They said the same thing about the Titanic. Ron Paul should be president, for he is the only one who knows what to do, and understands the situation better than anyone else. God bless Ron Paul and God bless the USA. Lets hope and pray they will do the right thing, and keeps us from going under.

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]]> By: ArrDee http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6144 ArrDee Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:04:49 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6144 Hey W.S.P. - well, goody for you being debt-free. We appreciate your smugness with the smarta** topping, but not all of us choose to buy and live in a 1960's motorhome or 72' Ford Pickup with a nifty, dented aluminum topper. OR maybe mommy & daddy's house which THEY paid for. Debt-free but still a turd! Hey W.S.P. – well, goody for you being debt-free. We appreciate your smugness with the smarta** topping, but not all of us choose to buy and live in a 1960’s motorhome or 72′ Ford Pickup with a nifty, dented aluminum topper. OR maybe mommy & daddy’s house which THEY paid for. Debt-free but still a turd!

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]]> By: C. Goodman Zervos http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6140 C. Goodman Zervos Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:23:12 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6140 This is like putting arsonists in charge of investigating the fire they themselves started. To let them be involved in any way is a sure sign of damaged brain cells or a well thought scheme for secret profiting. If the deal passes, watch how fast the $700B disappears without any accountability. What's more, is how can there be an FBI investigation of the culprits while at the same time giving these same culprits large sums of money to play with and to line their pockets. Oh, but I guess the investigation has to be carried forth since under law the bad guys are innocent until proven guilty! I guess this line of thought justifies the bad guys getting the bailout, because they aren't really guilty of anything until proven otherwise. Don't you just love this stuff??? This is like putting arsonists in charge of investigating the fire they themselves started. To let them be involved in any way is a sure sign of damaged brain cells or a well thought scheme for secret profiting. If the deal passes, watch how fast the $700B disappears without any accountability. What’s more, is how can there be an FBI investigation of the culprits while at the same time giving these same culprits large sums of money to play with and to line their pockets. Oh, but I guess the investigation has to be carried forth since under law the bad guys are innocent until proven guilty! I guess this line of thought justifies the bad guys getting the bailout, because they aren’t really guilty of anything until proven otherwise.

Don’t you just love this stuff???

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]]> By: Justin Alan http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6125 Justin Alan Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:09 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6125 Wow, great point you made, Andrew & 'David in the Republic of Texas'. (I know it can be seen as impolitic today to 'quote the Bible in Public', so to those who object, I ask your pardon.....but this is SO applicable to today) It's so refreshing to hear men make the connection as you both did. May I add to your discussion ? I was explaining from the Scriptures to my family just today, using this particular passage, to illustrate how a nation goes astray with massive greed & corruption. What was surprising was that the nation was seen as corrupt in it's spiritual relationship with God, then politcal & economic judgement followed. (the whole chapter needs be read in sequence to see the progression). From Isaiah 1:22-26: "Your silver has become dross, your wine mixed with water. Your princes are rebellious, and the companions of thieves; everyone loves bribes, and follows after rewards. They do not defend the fatherless, not does the cause of the widow come before them.....Therfore, the Lord says, the LORD of Hosts, the Mighty one of Israel, "Ah, I will rid myself of My adversaries, and take vengance on mine enemies. I will turn my hand against you, and thoroughly take away your dross, and take away all your alloy. I will restore your judges as at the first and your counsellors as at the beginning. Afterward, you shall be called the city of Righteousness, the faithful city." So we see, massive corruption leads to being saddled with 'rebellious corrupt princes' (think US Congressman & business 'leaders') and because "everyone loves bribes, and follows after rewards", justice, the kind that relieves suffering on the part of the weaker parts of society & our families("fatherless & widows"), is totally ignored because it doesn't offer 'bribes & rewards.' Note, God's promise to purify the city, the nation, even from this evil. I don't know about you, but I take hope from this: because the forces arrayed against us are seemingly invincible. I saw how they quashed Dr. Paul's candidacy. But God will vindicate. America has a 'testimony' as a Christian nation. I think we Christians have, as a general rule, departed from the 'ways of the LORD', and this has beset the entire land with woes. Be honest, our 'testimony' is tarnished. There is a connection between our Private Rightsousness & Public Morality. Please note in Isaiah 1: 10-20, it was actually the profoundly religious citizens that had become corrupt, and led to the downfall of the entire nation. Judgement must begin in the house of God, don't the Scriptures elsewhere declare ? Our faith may not remain Private - it always comes out. Do we trust in God or Ceasar ? Are we more concerned with our 401 K & investments, or with God's reputation for Holiness & Righteousness, and his claim that we must honor Him with all that we have & are ? Please read the entire chapter of Isaiah 1, in context, and keep in mind that all these things that happened to them, as the New Testament cites: "...were written unto us (the modern church) for examples...." God help America before it's too late. Justin Alan Wow, great point you made, Andrew & ‘David in the Republic of Texas’.

(I know it can be seen as impolitic today to ‘quote the Bible in Public’, so to those who object, I ask your pardon…..but this is SO applicable to today)

It’s so refreshing to hear men make the connection as you both did. May I add to your discussion ?

I was explaining from the Scriptures to my family just today, using this particular passage, to illustrate how a nation goes astray with massive greed & corruption.

What was surprising was that the nation was seen as corrupt in it’s spiritual relationship with God, then politcal & economic judgement followed. (the whole chapter needs be read in sequence to see the progression).

From Isaiah 1:22-26:

“Your silver has become dross, your wine mixed with water. Your princes are rebellious, and the companions of thieves; everyone loves bribes, and follows after rewards. They do not defend the fatherless, not does the cause of the widow come before them…..Therfore, the Lord says, the LORD of Hosts, the Mighty one of Israel, “Ah, I will rid myself of My adversaries, and take vengance on mine enemies. I will turn my hand against you, and thoroughly take away your dross, and take away all your alloy. I will restore your judges as at the first and your counsellors as at the beginning. Afterward, you shall be called the city of Righteousness, the faithful city.”

So we see, massive corruption leads to being saddled with ‘rebellious corrupt princes’ (think US Congressman & business ‘leaders’) and because “everyone loves bribes, and follows after rewards”, justice, the kind that relieves suffering on the part of the weaker parts of society & our families(“fatherless & widows”), is totally ignored because it doesn’t offer ‘bribes & rewards.’

Note, God’s promise to purify the city, the nation, even from this evil. I don’t know about you, but I take hope from this: because the forces arrayed against us are seemingly invincible. I saw how they quashed Dr. Paul’s candidacy. But God will vindicate.

America has a ‘testimony’ as a Christian nation. I think we Christians have, as a general rule, departed from the ‘ways of the LORD’, and this has beset the entire land with woes. Be honest, our ‘testimony’ is tarnished. There is a connection between our Private Rightsousness & Public Morality.

Please note in Isaiah 1: 10-20, it was actually the profoundly religious citizens that had become corrupt, and led to the downfall of the entire nation. Judgement must begin in the house of God, don’t the Scriptures elsewhere declare ?

Our faith may not remain Private – it always comes out. Do we trust in God or Ceasar ? Are we more concerned with our 401 K & investments, or with God’s reputation for Holiness & Righteousness, and his claim that we must honor Him with all that we have & are ?

Please read the entire chapter of Isaiah 1, in context, and keep in mind that all these things that happened to them, as the New Testament cites: “…were written unto us (the modern church) for examples….”

God help America before it’s too late.

Justin Alan

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]]> By: David in the Republic of Texas http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-6121 David in the Republic of Texas Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:51:43 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/#comment-6121 After reading Andrew's post above, where he says "Capitalism not informed by Christianity and God's morality shortly devolves into overt social oppression, as we're seeing - no morality, no freedom.." all I can say is you are right on. Ron Paul is a devoted Christian, if you google 'Ron Paul statement of faith', you'll get the press release that explains it. Because he preaches by 'actions more than words' his quiet faith oftentimes goes overlooked, but it forms his ethical outlook and morality regarding the individual, family & state & how they relate. Ironically, though his political candidacy has fizzled, he is more sought after than ever as a spokesman - precisely because he can be trusted to 'tell the truth', about the immorality now flooding Washington DC & NYC regarding this criminal bailout proposal. Andrew, here are a couple of sources that are great for championing free market capitalism, that make the connection, unapoligetically, to it's Biblical root: www.Chalcedon.edu Great articles ! The Blog is one of my favorites - the author, Chris Ortiz, is a huge Ron Paul supporter - free market thinker & top rate theologian. www.LewRockwell.com You've probably already heard of this one. High praise for this group of Austrian economists who tend to be Catholic and do make the connection between Biblical faith & politics & economics. www.Baldwin08.com - Chuck Baldwin was endorsed by Ron Paul, in preference to the Libertarian party man, Bob Barr...find out why..... Yours For Liberty, David in the Republic of Texas After reading Andrew’s post above, where he says “Capitalism not informed by Christianity and God’s morality shortly devolves into overt social oppression, as we’re seeing – no morality, no freedom..” all I can say is you are right on.

Ron Paul is a devoted Christian, if you google ‘Ron Paul statement of faith’, you’ll get the press release that explains it. Because he preaches by ‘actions more than words’ his quiet faith oftentimes goes overlooked, but it forms his ethical outlook and morality regarding the individual, family & state & how they relate.

Ironically, though his political candidacy has fizzled, he is more sought after than ever as a spokesman – precisely because he can be trusted to ‘tell the truth’, about the immorality now flooding Washington DC & NYC regarding this criminal bailout proposal.

Andrew, here are a couple of sources that are great for championing free market capitalism, that make the connection, unapoligetically, to it’s Biblical root:

http://www.Chalcedon.edu Great articles ! The Blog is one of my favorites – the author, Chris Ortiz, is a huge Ron Paul supporter – free market thinker & top rate theologian.

http://www.LewRockwell.com You’ve probably already heard of this one. High praise for this group of Austrian economists who tend to be Catholic and do make the connection between Biblical faith & politics & economics.

http://www.Baldwin08.com – Chuck Baldwin was endorsed by Ron Paul, in preference to the Libertarian party man, Bob Barr…find out why…..

Yours For Liberty, David in the Republic of Texas

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