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I may be mistaken, as I’m very tired…feel free to correct me and provide sources.
I’m not voting. I should, I suppose…but I didn’t register, and I’m disgusted/ apathetic towards the election.
We do not elect the president…the electoral college does. Electors are nominated (and thus, chosen) by the states’ political parties (Dems and Reps). Therefore…unless electors vote for someone other than who they pledge to elect, a third-party win is impossible.
24 states have laws to prosecute faithless electors (electors who vote for someone other than who they’ve pledged to vote for. Electors must pledge to vote for whichever candidate the Dems/ Reps choose, as pledges are made before the 2 parties choose their presidential candidate. The supreme court has ruled against allowing electors refusing to pledge their vote.
(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_v._Blair). We have no choice. We are offered two options which will yield the same end result…power over many, held by few.
What a mess. We need a revolution. I don’t mean pamphlets and mail and endless donations. I mean a march on Washington and a 2 hour television spot during prime time on a major network.
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I have supported Ron Paul and would have voted for him had he been on the ballot in Massachusetts, but he isn’t, so I wont be voting at all in this election.
I must say here that Ron Paul’s endorsement of Chuck Baldwin was a mistake. He needs to get the hell out of the Republican party and try to find some way of bringing the forces for freedom together in one viable body/party—otherwise this country is doomed. We are fast running out of time and the “Constitution Party” and “Libertarian Party”, with the help of Ron Paul and others, need to get their act together to pool resources otherwise the cause of freedom may be lost forever.
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i was thinking about following the good Dr.s advice
and voting for Chuck and Darryl (some good fellas there)
but this run we’ve had, i got to write in the man who
really deserves this more than anyone
Ron is gettin’ my vote
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I will vote for Dr. Paul, the only honest man running…
We have a few years to gear up for the next ‘eLection’.
Please Dr. Paul, reconsider running next time.
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Ron Paul needs to go independent to really make an impact in the next election. I think he would have a serious shot as a third party.
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I would vote for Ron Paul but he was not on the ballot here in Nevada. So I voted for one of the independents instead as I refuse to vote for Mc Cain or Obama.
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Silly question, but if I write in Ron Paul, does it even count towards anything? I have heard that they just discard the write in because he is not even on any ballot of any kind.
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I wrote in Ron Paul last Tuesday during early voting. I’m so sick and tired of this mess!
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I live in Colorado and we do not have a write-in option for the President voting process. Ron Paul was not on the ballot in Colorado so I voted for the American Independence Party on principle. Not that they have a chance. There nomination for President was Allen Keyes. I am not particularly a fan of him but I needed someone to give my vote to. I refuse to vote for either a Deomocrat or a Republican
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We voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. Right now it seems to be important to at least try to keep the extreme of Obama out of the driver’s seat. Thus, our vote for McCain.
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Would certainly vote Ron Paul if we could. Will not vote for lesser of two evils, so Baldwin for my husband and I. At least this will tell them we don’t like the other two choices; Demo. or Rep. which are nothing more than two sides of the same coin.
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I believe Dr. Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin partly because he knows that write ins will most likely be ignored/discarded. Sure Chuck wont win, but at least by voting for him your vote will be included in the percentages and if a large percentage of people vote 3rd party it will send a message out to republicans/democrats and those considering voting 3rd party next time. I trust Ron Paul and if he endorsed Chuck Baldwin I will be voting for him.
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I voted for McCain because a vote for him was best in my eyes to keep the liberal democrats out of the white house.
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The lesser of two evils… you still get evil.
Refuse to cooperate, refuse participation
Revolution
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Ayone who Dr. Ron Paul endorses would get my vote, I’m English and therefore uneligible.
Campaign for liberty!
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If my ballot does not have a WRITE IN space for Dr Paul’s name, then I plan to write it hugely across the entire ballot. Yes, I understand that this will disqualify my vote. In this FAKE election…
The McBama “choice” offends me to the core. Which war-monger’s lies will YOU vote to fall for?
Sure, Chuck Baldwin would be a great choice. MANY of the 3rd party options could help the nation. Nader, McKinney, Baldwin all get my respect.
But as long as we’re in the “wishing on a star and pissing in the wind” mode of voting 3rd party, I want to be PROUD and INFORMED about my vote for RON PAUL.
Our Rockefeller/Rothschild owners will NEVER allow us to be governed by a person who isn’t already OWNED.
So a 3rd party vote is merely a protest vote.
If I’m gonna protest tomorrow, I want to remember that I did it for DR PAUL. It was not Baldwin who lit the fire in me. It was not Nader who inspired me to donate REAL $ to a campaign. It was not McKinney who gave me hope that maybe this country CAN be saved.
7 letters
R O N P A U L
And for the record, DENNIS KUCINICH gets my VP write-in
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To Joe above, we know why Ron Paul endorsed somebody, we know write ins are not counted. The issue that many of us take with Chuck Baldwin, and the constitution party as a whole is that they do not promote freedom and liberty. The platform of the party seeks to establish a Theocracy. Bob Barr would have been a far better and more compatible endorsment from Dr. Paul, and Bob Barr is the candidate that will have my vote tomorrow. A lot more people here have cast their vote for McCain and Obama than have commented about it. I find that interesting and disturbing at the same time.
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Hey all,
I just want to point out that I am a big Ron Paul supporter, but will be voting for Chuck Baldwin in tomorrow’s election, due to the fact that Ron Paul endorses this candidate (and I agree with his issues, as they are mostly the same between the two). I would like to strongly encourage all Ron Paul supporters to make sure that you are in one of the three states that is accepting Ron Paul votes, and if not, please give some serious thought into changing your vote to Chuck Baldwin. In the words of Dr. Paul, “If the revolution is ever going to work, it will have to be bigger than Ron Paul”. Best wishes for tomorrow.
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Hi All,
I have always voted as an Independent. This year I registered as a GOP because it is the only way my vote could be counted in the Florida Primaries since Florida is a closed state in primaries…you vote only or the candidates in the designation you are registered with…
This yer is a real battle..so here are my views…
The fact that Ron Paul is not running in 48 States for the Presidency, and was put on the Ballot in Louisiana and Montana,unsolicited by grass roots supporters, speaks volumes and leaves a lot of people a bit disillusioned. Ron Paul did not run…period…Yes, he endorsed Chuck Baldwin in a luke warm manner but that,too, leaves a lot to be desired,IMHO.
Rather than throw away a vote, and call it voting “your conscience”, isn’t it better to find the candidate that is the “less bad” and vote for him, just to keep out the person who may destroy our “Democracy” by nationalizing everything via a controlled society? Have you already noticed the “Obama Two Step Shuffle” as he now widens his views on Iraq, National health and taxes? Feature this. A vote for a third party candidate, other than for Ron Paul had he run, is truly merely a protest vote and not meant to change anything. It’s like a child wanting a candy bar/ice-cream/hamburger, etc., and not getting his way. What does he/she do? He/she throws a tantrum….sometimes.
Isn’t that what many are doing? Voters and non-voters? The alernative is to try to change a Party. The GOP will either win by a very slim margin or get trounced soundly. No party can “lose its way”, betray its fundamental principles and still stay in power. What happen to the “Reaganites?” Where have they gone?
Under George Bush I & II, the GOP has lost its way. It has become a party of war mongers, picking on little countries, while sidling away from the “Big Boys.” On top of that, the GOP has lost its conservative principles, straying from the Constitution, and has become a party trying to “Out Democrat” the Democrats by spending big money [which we don't have], waging war, getting involved in people’s lives at every turn ( instead of hands of), keeping the Federal Reserve, IRS, FDA, USA, supporting Codex Alimentarius, and all the other Agencies that have hurt and are hurting Americans.
Under Bush II, The GOP has even increased Big Governement growth at every turn, plunged us into unimaginable debt, and left our borders degenseless, in favor of NAFTA, the UN…Now the “Rescue Plan” is in effect and is designed to bring other Central Banks to our shores by getting the American taxpayers to pay foreign holders of Subprime paper, and even allow foreign scientists in other countries to “share” in Tax payers’ funding of their scientific “shared” research! [Thanks to Presidents Clinton and G.W. Bush.]
Ron Paul, for his part, has not left the Republican Party and is up for re-election of his Congressional seat. That should be a hint to all. If he doesn’t want to run for the Presidency and chooses to stay in Congress as a Republican, shouldn’t we understand the message?
In our two party system, whether we like it ot not, there is power and money. No third party has ever won recently, ( Lincoln was the last, with about 40% of the vote, back in 1860)… It’s a different ballgame today with the huge amount of money it now takes for a candidate to stay in the race.We had better figure out wich way to go. Little guys have no hope.
Ron Paul did give us hope but he refused to run after he was probably told to quit. [Now that is only my speculation. Any news on this?] He could have stayed in the race, seated or not, and could have tried to maintain his pledged delegates all the way to the convention. That would have made a resounding statement and maybe would have led to a compromise on the party platform…????
While I agee with the the Constitutional principles , I think it is better to work at the grass roots level, as GOP people, and take control of the local GOP chapters where possible. This may lead to a true “revolution” within the GOP and get it back on track, or, at least, get some conservative thinking back into the party. It’s called balance…
This election will see either a clear victory for the Democrats, in which case the GOP will have to re-think their strategy, or a squeaky win for the GOP, in which case they will still have to re-think their strategy.
Ron Paul will win his sat by a landslide ( 70%+) and that along with a potential GOP defeat at the top of the ticket, or just a whisker of a win, will send out a clear message. We are then in for some big trouble either way, because if the Democrats win, they will “revolutionize” everything to the left, but if they lose, they will feel threatened, betrayed and cheated. That is how politics is and we better get back to reality and work within a party framework.
Is it so hard to outsmart the “Old Guard” in the GOP, especially when their policies have wrecked the Party and America? I think not because a lot of them will want new leadership after this election. Ron Paul is a spiritual leader now and has to lead the way in finding a person who is ready, willing and able to work within the framework of the GOP, with Constitutional views. It back to the drawing board.
If the GOP win, where does Ron Paul fit in? He is definiteley the seasoned GOP voice of sanity…
Hats of to all Third Party candidates for their effort, but except for voicing a platform that resembles the Conservative element of the GOP as it used to be and should be now, where are they going, except to protest? It is better to work from within, rather than to look in from without. Fingers crossed!
Ciao and God Bless all whose heart is in the right place, EMC
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Ron Paul’s campaign proved to me that liberty on the Federal level is impossible. I now advocate people move to the New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project.
Since the state I live in requires all write-ins be pre-registered, I know that no vote I cast will be in line with my viewpoints. My write-in vote will be for Free Talk Live. It will mean nothing in terms of the election, but there’s the tiny chance that whomever processes the votes might see it, and out of curiosity, check it out and be turned on to liberty.
If not, I’m still not subtly condoning the aggression of the state.
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I already voted for Bob Barr for President. I couldn’t get myself to vote for Baldwin’s theocracy.
If you want to write-in Ron Paul and feel good about it, why don’t you do what I did. I wrote his name on the ballot…but not for President…I wrote him in for Florida State Representative District 106…I had to choose between voting for someone named Richard L. Steinberg or doing a write-in.
So now I can say I have voted for RP.
Don’t forget that that the 2012 LP nominee and the 2012 CP nominee need your 2008 vote for automatic ballot access in the 2012 election…otherwise they will have to fight the courts and go through the burden of collecting signatures to get on the ballots…you think RP wants that to happen to the 2012 liberty candidates after the ballot access nightmares he himself went through back in 1988? Don’t forget that Ron Paul also discouraged you from writing in his name on the ballot.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/021556.html
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I beleive write in votes are counted as long as the candidate signs a declaration of intent. Is this correct? Did Ron Paul sign one? I’m in Montana, so I most definately voted for him, but was confused when people were saying Ron Paul was saying “dont vote for me”! I truly feel without that confusion right there… AND if people voted honestly who they felt would make the best president… Ron Paul would win. I honestly beleive that. Many people I’ve spoken to are voting either Obama or Mcain even though they beleive in Ron Paul’s message, but they say they do not want their vote to be wasted. I understand where they are coming from… BUT if anything is going to change in this Country, WE need to change and stick to what we beleive in.
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For those of you thinking of voting for the lesser of two evils, you may want to consider not voting for evil in the first place.
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I’d vote for Ron Paul if he was on the ballot, but if it isn’t (which I assume will be the case) I’ll be writing in Mary Ruwart since I agree with her 100% and RP only 98%.
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It is absolutely great to be a Ron Paul supporter. You know Ron Paul is a terrific candidate and leader when his supporters are determined, informed, and tolerant (evidenced above) which is hard to find when you read through the McBama support full of hate and prejudice on both sides.
I must say I will vote for Chuck Baldwin only because I too support Ron Paul leaving the Republican party. Maybe this will force Ron’s hand?
If not, it pains me to say I hope Barack wins just so Dr. Paul will have the chance to lead this great nation back into the prosperous, humanitarian, isolated nation she was destined to be, in another 4 years. I just want my soldiers back; if the Rockefellers allow it.
I love my fellow countrymen, but I am saddened by what this nation has become. The general public is blind to the evils and injustices thrust upon them. The richest people in this world do not see themselves a citizen to any nation. They believe themselves to be above sovereignty, and unfortunately in a world run by greed, they are.
God Bless and Good Luck.
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It is foolish now to vote for who you wish were in the running.
It has come to either BO or McShame.
Not voting takes away your choice altogether.
Voting for someone who has no chance or who is not eligibile
proves nothing. Had Dr. Paul stayed in the race, the
intelligent may have had a chance
Jim
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It’s the first time I’ve not been excited about a candidate. Obama is inexperienced and promises too much, that I feel he won’t be able to deliver. J. McCain, on the otherhand, isn’t promising enough. I’d hoped he would have told us that he would be doing a reversal from the Bush administration’s policies!
As for Mr.Paul, I like a lot of what he has to say and will continue to listen, but I don’t like that he says it and doesn’t run for the presidency with more fervor! I understand that the media didn’t give the independents the same exposure as O and M, but I see that Ron Paul seems to be getting quite a bit now. Perhaps, he can work more efficiently outside of the presidency.
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What the hell,
Anybody who voted for Obama or McCain should be banished from this website.
People are so gullible!
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Come on people! Ron Paul is voting for Chuck Baldwin, not himself.
Quit with this write-in crap!!! Ron Paul himself has stated that writing his name in is UNPRODUCTIVE. His word, not mine.
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I’m voting for the Libertarian Party, not Bob Barr, for the purpose of securing ballot access in the 2012 election.
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Someone help. I am in New York. I can’t put Paul on the ballot. I can’t vote for Chuck Baldwin. All I really have available are O and M or Bob Barr. Whould voting Libertarian at least be a safe place to park my (protest) vote. I don’t want to not vote, but as the hour approaches I just can’t stomach voting for Obama (who I’d vote for over McCain if someone put a gun to my head)…
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Im voting for Ron Paul even if I have to scratch the other names off and write his in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets get back to the Constitution!
Helives!
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I mailed my vote, wrote in Ron Paul, had his sign up till today
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I still wear my Ron Paul shirts, underwear, and shoes almost everyday. Wish he was running!! The sign will stay in my yard…until I receive my “Don’t blame me, I wanted Ron Paul” sign. Maybe next go around?? DON’T GIVE UP!!!
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Andrew…it’s a no-brainer…do the right thing and give your vote to Bob Barr…the 2012 Libertarian Party nominee needs your 2008 vote for automatic ballot access in the 2012 election…otherwise he/she will have to fight the courts and go through the costly burden of collecting signatures to get on the ballots….you think RP wants that to happen to the 2012 liberty candidates after the ballot access nightmares he himself went through back in 1988 as the LP nominee?
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Well I’d have to say that 90% percent of Ron Paul supporters are not wing nuts in the least, but if Barack Obama wins he actually represents a split from the Democratic movements of late, I.E. Globalist Republican Light(tm) policies of Clinton/Bush and the democratic congress we have now. I think it is a shift in the wrong direction on some subjects but a positive one in others. Well I hope anyway… He represents to me at least at face value a real democrat from another era for the better, but personally I am less inclined to believe in those principles.
I just cannot vote for McCain period since he drafted that pinhead from Alaska as a potential replacement. I think even if he won with another running mate I would not have as much difficulty even with him being tainted goods until he picked that faith healing dipshit, it just stinks of typical neocon pablum.
I supported Ron Paul because he brought common sense ideas to the forefront and I still admire his opinion on many topics mostly economic ones and his stance on third party candidates: but I was a little more than disappointed that he would not run as one.
My locality will no doubt carry Barack Obama, so it is either I will vote for him or vote for the libertarian candidate just to prop up third party candidates for the future and maybe help stop the media hit job on them.
I think if I took anything away from the Ron Paul presidential effort it is that the Federal Reserve is in to perpetuate itself, and protect the elite from the “ravages of the market”, a sentence that Noam Chomsky has uttered many a time. And that our country is run more less by parties so alike and so in bed with the elite that it is hard to tell where the next slap in the face is going to come from.
But I remind the most hardcore republicans among you, that the there are real truth-sayers out there, in both parties and especially in the third party ones as well. That is the cause that I will keep in mind in the future.
I came to understand more about Ron Paul through Alex Jones’s radio show, where without I would have maybe sided with the media impression that Ron Paul was a kook had I not listened to the radio show, Well that and the fact that he was anti-iraq war impressed me a lot.
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I voted for Ron Paul in the NM primary. He isn’t on the ballot here for the regular election. I have voted independent many times in the past. I know neither McCain nor Obama come close to Ron Paul. However, I am convionced that Obama is significantly worse than McCain, and believe I have to try to stop him from winning so will vote for McCain. Then I will reapply my energies to the Campaign for Liberty. But for now an Obama presidency can do far more damage than McCain.
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DON’T TREAD ON ME
Ron please lead the Revolution
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I am not voting at all. If Ron Paul would be one of the candidates I would definitelly vote for him. We have two lame ducks/strawman for presidential nominees. How in a country that wants a real change we ended up with Obama, who is sponsored by shady figures and gives good speaches but will do nothing at all, or with weak man who is also a strawman for somebody else I have no clue. Nothing good will come out of both of them. I look at a financial crisis as a deliberately planned and executed one, to create chaos and panic and show who the real powerhouses are who run this world. Barack changing things for the better? Please. Barack is no one, he is a puppet and so is McCain. I agree with Dustin. I refuse to vote until Revolution. Ron Paul for President, Dennis Kucinich for VP.
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Jim B,
I hope you are smart enough to realize that you only have one vote and it is too insignificant to accomplish your goal of defeating Obama…you talk like the millions of sheeple who have a fantasy that their McCain vote is going to keep Obama out of the White House…if you saw the movie “Swing Vote” you would understand no politician cares about your particular insignificant single vote and neither McCain nor Obama will come knocking on your door begging for it unless it’s a tiebreaker vote that decides the outcome of the election. All your vote will do is become a tiny statistic and raise McCain’s election day totals by one.
You seriously need to read this
http://tinyurl.com/x2×2x2×2
Please don’t betray Dr. Paul and the liberty movement with that wasted McCain vote. Dr. Paul is not voting for Obama nor McCain for many reasons
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As far as I’m aware Ron Paul isn’t on the ticket; at least he wasn’t listed in the paper as a cadidate. If I see him when I go to the polls tomorrow then I’ll cast my vote for him, but if not then I’m voting for Bob Barr
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oh, and here we have electronic balloting and you can’t write in anything on an electronic ballot. It’s a touch screen
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I am sooo tempted to NOT VOTE AT ALL! However, Ron Paul did endorse Chuck Baldwin but I don’t really like him because his main emphasis and primary concern is on immigration whereas our major concern should be on destroying the fed for bailing out Wall Street giving $7 billion dollars. Plus, let’s not forget that this country was built mainly on hard working immigrants from ALL over the world. America is special because of all the different colors and cultures incorporated in one making us interesting and eccentric… plus, Chuck Baldwin is a retarded legalist Christian whom wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for his immigrant ancestry from I don’t know where but from somewhere!
Anyway, moving on to my objective… regardless of who wins, we, The American people need to seek answers to the real issues we are facing globally because we are certainly not getting any from McCan’t and Osama, we need a revolution to demand genuine Constitutional Rights that our founding fathers left behind for our Freedom. A revolution to defend the great American principles of individual liberty, constitutional government (in which we no longer have), sound money, free markets, and a non interventionist foreign policy.
Sadly, Americans and fellow resident’s of the United States are totally ignorant and oblivious to our Nations status. It is said that the voters do not pick the president as it is mentioned on this forum. Ron Paul also stated: “The election process is controlled by the powerful elite to make sure that neither candidate of the two major parties will challenge the status quo,” “There is no real choice between the two major parties and their nominees, only the rhetoric varies. The amazingly long campaign is designed to make sure the real issues are ignored.” I say that only $$$$$$$ MONEY VOTES are counted here. This presidential charade/fiasco has become nothing more than an emotional & popularity contest… people should explore other sources other than the mainstream media shining the light on Obaba & McWack.
Our political system is indeed a corrupted one! And we the people are clearly being deceived and misinformed. What a shame! Good luck America.
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I would have loved to vote for Ron Paul in this election, but the facts are that he will not win nor will any independent. I hope a way to reform this two party system surfaces and that Dr. Paul will run again. I am voting for John McCain, the candidate who is not as bad as Barack Obama, and a candidate that has a chance of winning.
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Osama and McLame both prepare platforms that will dupe many people into believing that things are actually getting better, once either one is elected. In truth, this platform will be the beginning of slavory for the masses that will be nothing but the mules for the ruling elite.
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I can’t help but agree with everyone who thinks That Mclame and Osama(i mean Obama) are one and the same.Dr. Paul’s presidential campain is certianly proof enough that the media will attempt to limit our choices. Nothing would make me happier than to be able to vote for Dr. Paul but as we all know write ins seem to be a losing battle. Tomorrow i will be casting my vote for Chuck Baldwin.He has made the ballot in Wisconsin. We may not win the battle this time but we can send a message to future voters,future politians,and to the media that we will no longer be asleep at the wheel of our democracy.
I’m curious if in the next four years the independents can maybe organize in the spirit of mutual cooperation to set up a platform debate that would resemble the republican and democratic presidential canidate debates. If Ronco and QVC can get primetime airtime why couldn’t an independent presidential debate?
It might also help if each party some how became involved in the primaries is some fashion. The republicans and democrats hog thee Americans attention by monopolizing T.V. and Radio for almost two years before an election. Is it any question why most of the Sheeple of the U.S.A. think the third parties don’t have an honest chance?
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I never thought about the fact that if Obama got elected Ron Paul could come back in 2012. It would be impossible for him to get the nomination against an incumbent Republican. I have been struggling over the whole issue of “wasting” my vote on a third party candidate. We all know the chances of one of them getting elected are nill because there are too many sheeple ( I like that term!) that have been brainwashed into thinking that there are only two choices that have been preselected for the American people to choose from! If everyone voted their heart instead of worrying about if their vote would count or not I think we would see an upending of the two party system, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. I still don’t get the whole electoral college thing. Just doesn’t make sense to me and never will. All that being said, I think that I will vote for Bob Barr only because Alan Keyes is not on the ballot in TN. I just can’t quite stomach the Chuck Baldwin thing.( Sorry Ron!) I do this thinking that I will send the message of dissatisfaction with the way things are being run in this country and Obama will more then likely be elected thereby giving Ron Paul a chance to try again in 2012.
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i was at your convention wonderful time to bad your not on the balad in ohio
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I’ll be voting for Barr. In theory, I want to vote for Baldwin because Dr. Paul endorsed him, but I just can’t get over his religious zeal. That’s too much for me to stomach.
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I’m not American, so I cannot vote, but I think that the best solution for American people in these elections consists in voting for Bob Barr. Constitution Party has a chart of values based on puritanism, so I think that Baldwin, though Dr. Paul endorsement, can’t be voted, even if, at the end, maybe he would act on ethical issues simply removing federal funds on abortion, same as Ron Paul.
However, Barr seems the most balanced candidate for libertarian people.
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I am voting Palin/Macain. I cannot let a known socialist get elected. It would ruin our Country. We need a strong leader in a new third party and that leader should be Ron Paul. I say let’s start campaining now for the 2012 elections so we will be reconized.
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This is my first election to vote in as I just turned 19, however; I have previously watched all the debates between Mr. Bush and former nominees. I find this country has taught the younger generation (my closest friends) how to NOT think. It’s quite simple how all of this should work and I think everyone here knows the voting system, the so call ‘democracy’, and the power of our vote is completely broken. We need someone who has enough power to bring us all together, make the march, and bring the country back to its roots. I can preach about our government, I can complain about the campaign, I can even become a rebel and fight to bring a revolution about, but there is always a mass population of blinded and miss lead uninformed and unintelligent people to bring the rest back down! We don’t need to wait until the primary election starts four years from now to moan about the electoral process, we need to start it right now! People should have seen how the “lesser of two evils” brought this country to its knees under the Bush Administration, yet the whole country just wants to forget about it and move on as if it never happened!!!! If the people of the United States informed their selves of what’s happening then maybe they would all be as frightened as we are! We all need to stand up and teach these miss lead minds that everything that is happening now is man created but hidden from the weekend minds!!!
Ps. I’m voting for Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul will just be thrown away if I vote for him. To think you will make a statement by voting for him is redundant, no one on CNN, FOX, MSNBC or any other nationally broadcasted television show will announce it so no one will ever care beside the few of us here!!!!!!!!!!
STAND UP AND FIGHT!!!
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Planned to vote for chuck baldwin. Applied for absentee ballot as I am too far away to vote in my precinct. The city clerk couldn’t copy my address correctly and apparently sent my ballot to some other address that could not possibly have been confused with mine. I have no way to get to the polls, and the clerk had no other solution for me. She did offer me her apology;) I have been disenfranchised by idiots. Just found out about the revolution a couple weeks ago. Looking for more Michiganders who want real “change”…
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i am british living in britain so i am not voting but whoever votes for obama is just plain wrong he doesnt know what hes talking about. if he pulls out of iraq then there will be a bloodbath of our soldiers. there blood will be on his hands
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To Joe The Student,
Explain the situation to the Supervisor of Elections in your county and ask if you can vote by fax. It is possible to vote that way as an absentee voter and perhaps it can work in your case. Maybe it will work. It certainly is worth a try.
If yes get to a place where they can fax you the papers. Then fill out the ballot and send it back by fax…
The only drawback is that since it goes over a fax, the secrecy for whom you voted is lost because the ballot markings may become known to others in that office. But that shouldn’t matter since you do want to vote and what can they ever do with that knowledge anyway? Good luck and God Bless, EMC
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To Maxwell,
It would be to your benefit to coordinate a withdrawal of British troops with ours at the same time, as I am sure that will be the way it would happen. I can tell you are no military strategist in thinking that.
If you blame anyone for your percieved bloodbath, blame the guy who started the war in the first place. He is clearly the one responsible for the deaths so far. I think anyone who supports Ron Paul and the war at the same time, is missing a good part of the message.
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Kev’s Rules:
Rule 1: One must cast a vote. In order to have minimum civic participation in the democratic process of a republic, One must cast a vote. If not, One’s personal authority to publicly discuss or express opinion on all issues is removed by self. Without a vote, One would operate without One’s authority.
Rule 2: One must cast a vote according to One’s principles. Principles are what guide us through our lives, they are like the “roots or our tree”. Without principles (whatever they may be) One is lost. To not vote One’s principles is paramount to not having principles.
That’s it. Pretty simple. You can take all the ideas of not voting, voting for the “lesser” or “protest voting” and through them out.
It is up to each person to vote on their principles to effect a working Republic. Not voting (which is the worst offence) will neither hinder the two main parties, help any third party, nor will it express your principles using the most basic of our civil involvement - the vote.
I would argue that all third parties in this election will not garner much power (and by power I mean the ability to persuade the two main parties to move their party’s platform).
Our Republic has and always will have (under current laws) a two party system. As voters it is up to us to either support one of the main parties, or attempt to persuade one or both of the main parties to change their party platform. Our country’s history shows that any main party that is reluctant to move their platform, is in jeopardy of losing their main party standing.
I personally can not vote for the Constitution Party because of my recent stand on the abortion issue. I believe that government control over a person’s authority is null as long as that person is not causing harm to another (of course, this leaves open the question of where does life begin - I’ve yet to understand myself on this issue). Therefore, government has neither authority to approve or deny abortions.
So this cycle (and since ‘96) I’ve chosen the Libertarian Party. My vote will show the support of my principles and have the added effect of assisting the LP’s efforts to be on the ballot in all 50 states.
I could ramble on for hours, but I’ll close. Thank You.
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I would have voted for Ron Paul if he were on the ballet in Jersey but since he wasnt I voted for Obama. I personally feel he would do a better job than McCain would.
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I voted for Ron Paul.I’m in Louisiana and soo happy to see him on the ballot here. Please run in the next election!
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I am extremely dismayed at the extent of elite/State control not simply in place, but, running smoothly. I read many of the comments above and get further dismayed by the apparent susceptibility to state media influence and its opinion control of the writers; to the writer’s surprise, I’m sure.
Morality cannot be enforced. Abortion is a failure of genuine religious understanding to succeed. Legislating choice is a holocaust of freedom. No one likes to see pain and suffering; passing legislation in place of securing viability of education and increased awareness of life and one’s own relationship to the universe and others is only saying “Make it go away!” which actually hands over responsibility, power and choice to a certain group of individuals over the constitutional liberty intended for all.
The country I’ve known and believed in all my life lives in me and in Ron Paul and he was taken out with the simplest ease. RP understands the MAGNITUDE of the problem escaping most of the comments I read above. The country I’ve known and loved all my life is now only a memory, just like my grandparents whose corpses rest securely cold and dark, threatening no one.
I’ll be voting for Cynthia McKinney today because I cannot in any way endorse the level of unbridled evil so pleasantly disguised in the two major candidates’ groups as well as by the fact that Ron Paul is not on the ballot in New York–that would be a no-brainer.
People define America in many ways. The only definition of America or the United States of America or being an American I’ve ever had has been ‘those with the Constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of Independence alive and maintained in their being’.
That definition does not have a geographic border. It does have a terrible consequence once the principles and concepts of those documents are no longer relevant to the fascination of the day and are subjugated to serve lesser interests or intent. Of course, out of sight is out of mind is out of luck.
The USA is no more. It is merely a collection of states under corporate and media control.
Where’s the integrity?
Where’s the courage?
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PLEASE EVERYBODY GET OUT AND VOTE. The third parties need every single vote they can get. Although it seems futile, if you don’t show strong disention by voting 3rd party, then the themes and dissatisfactions will never register and things will continue moving the way they have been.
The best hope is for the next presidential candidate to take notice that significant numbers of people are sick of status quo and want to see real change — sick enough to vote third party. Maybe the next president will touch on ANY of the meaningful issues of our day — crazy spending, lack of fiscal responsibility, nonsensical government intervention, the failing socialist system of education, the Fed — etc etc.
PLEASE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i LOVE Ron Paul and i support him all the way! but i think that Ron would tell me to vote for Chuck Baldwin! so i have to vot for Chuck!
VOTE 3rd PARTY, VOTE FOR TRUE CHANGE!!!!!!
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I voted for Chuck Baldwin. I figured I couldn’t quite vote for McCain. I think it is interesting that Ron Paul endorsed Chuck instead of Bob Barr. I really like Chuck but I don’t think he can address anyone but Christians, and he would need to show that it makes sense for everyone. So in lieu of “none of the above” and standing up for what is the hardline right( a little extremism might be good now and then),since Ron Paul is not on the ballot, the vote went to Chuck Baldwin. My votes also went against every incumbent we had.
I’m inclined to believe that we need to start now to do something real for the next election(if there ever is another). I hope Ron Paul runs again, and trains others to follow in his wise footsteps. That way, we have better trained people for the future.
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I was, and still am, a supporter of Ron Paul and his principals. However, I believe it would have been in the best interest of our country for Dr. Paul to have supported the Republican candidate. No, he is certainly far from my choice, but he is so much better than the alternative. Sometimes we are forced to be pragmatic and put our ideals aside and do what is in the best interest of our country. I say, our country,but I am not sure how long I will feel that it is my country if Senator Obama is sworn in as our next President. It simply doesn’t get any worse, in my opinion, than the socialistic platform that he has run on (and possible actually be elected our next President). I support Libertarian principals, but the reality is that Bob Bar was not electable at this time. If Obama is elected, and we have an overwhelming Liberal majority, our liberties are in serious jeopardy. Perhaps if Dr. Paul had showed his support for John McCain those votes could have made a difference.
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