If You Were President…
If you were President, would you ask Ron Paul to become your Treasury Secretary?
In a recent online poll the New York Times asked readers to choose Barack Obama’s cabinet.
Ron Paul ranked third for the position of Treasury Secretary. He was surpassed only by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul A. Volcker and former Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers.
Ron Paul also reached the Top 10 for Defense Secretary (#5), Attorney General (#6), Secretary of Homeland Security (#6), and Secretary of State (#7).
Considering that Ron Paul appears on none of the drop-down selection menus offered by the New York Times, these impressive results document Ron Paul’s continuing popularity. All votes Ron Paul received were submitted by New York Times readers typing in his name.
Check out the New York Times poll here.
(The poll is now closed.)
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I’d love to see Ron get a Cabinet position, but it ain’t gonna happen. When I’d like to see even MORE is libertarians and other outside-the-box thinkers moving for real change that would allow Ron and others like him a real shot at contention:
http://www.meltingpotproject.com/mpp/why-third-parties-lose-and-how-they-can-win.html
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jim dollinger replies:
November 16th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Ron Paul for Chairman of the Fed
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Mitch replies:
November 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Umm, he wants to abolish the FED… I’m gunna hit the submit button now before I insult you………….
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If Obama truly wants to bring the change he speaks of, Ron Paul would be in his cabinet. But I have a feeling that his idea of change is just a different perspective on more of the same.
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Why is his name not in the drop down menu but was voted for? Was he taken off?
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R Ritz replies:
November 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
It seems they did take his name off. Maybe they were scared that his large online footprint would overshadow realistic results?
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Andreas replies:
November 15th, 2008 at 3:37 am
I think that’s bullshit!
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drew replies:
November 16th, 2008 at 3:40 am
the federal reserve controls much of the media….?
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WE should start the ACP ” AMERICAN CONSTUTIONAL PARTY” AND HAVE Mr. Paul at the head of the ticket and at the head of the movement [it may already be to late], we must learn to fight for our country the current republicans are not capable of fighting the way it eill be required to fight.
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can we have him here in Prague, Czech Republic to sort out the banking me$$ ?
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If Obama was more than just a puppet than he probaly would. It’s one of those dreaded “If” situations.
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Ron Paul has struck a nerve in American politics, he has been on track for a long time. But, would he take a cabinet position?
It must be noted that if RP took any cabinet position he would be required to march to the current administrations drums (much like Powell in Bush’s first term). Not likely!
And, if Obama nominated RP it would just be a political move to appease the up-and-coming Libertarian movement and get people like me to vote for Obama and get me on board with his policies. Again, not likely!
Thanks,
kev
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There is an AGENDA in place and has been for many years that few politicians will speak out or fully move against. I believe Ron Paul is the one that would–which is why he will NEVER be allowed the oppertunity! See some that did—Senator Paul Wellstone/Sonny Bono/JFK and many others……………
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Ron Paul as Treasury Sec? Yeah, I could see that happening, but it won’t because that job will go to some Bill Clinton retread, or some former Wall Street asswipe. An honest man in politics is a dead concept. The only way to save America is to have another revolution, and by REVOLUTION; I mean get out the muskets and the cannons. Our present government has evolved into a dictatorship in which the American people no longer have a importance other than at taxation and election time. Get your heads out of clouds people, this is not your Founding Father’s America.
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They now blocked people entering names!
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Ron Paul is the man. Straight up. He understands the Proper Role of Government http://www.chuckypita.com/proper-role-of-government-ezra-taft-benson-money-president-secretary-agriculture-thomas-jefferson/ and abides by those principles.
I would ask Ron Paul to lead the treasury department in 2 seconds… heck, more like a heartbeat.
He would abolish the FED and get us moving forward with honest money immediately.
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Having Ron Paul be in Obama’s cabinet would be a mistake, in my opinion. Due to the unbelievable wave of Constitutional awareness he has started, he needs to stay where he is. ANY cabinet position would neutralize his effectiveness to work at the most revolutionary of his current positions, restoring ALL of our civil rights, ending the reign of the Fed, ridding us of the tyranny of the illegal IRS, and getting back to a Constitutionally based government.
In Congress, he constantly has the floor for the next number of years where he can keep sounding the drum of his precepts, educate more Americans about the reality of our system of government, and keep adding to his support base for the next election (if we have one). RP can also keep us informed of other politicians that he deems worth of our support.
All of the name recognition RP is getting herein and now should work to our favor in helping us, RP-aware Americans, spread the word about WHO RP is and what he stands for.
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ARepentantYankeeLivingInOccupiedAlabama replies:
November 14th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Bingo! Someone finally got it.
How about this: If you were Hillary Clinton would you give up a senate seat in New York for the office of Secretary of State? Before you answer, remember that you write your letter of resignation the day you take the job.
Might happen, but I believe the Clintons are probably smarter than that. I know Ron Paul is…….
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Jason replies:
November 15th, 2008 at 7:28 am
The reality of our system? The reality of “our” system is that it is not “our” system. It is the system of the ruling class the bourgeoisie. That’ the reality of “our” system.
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Amazing how the Media missed all this. If it hadn’t been for my RonPaul.com updates, I would never have heard this. If someone like Hillary had gotten such results, I think the Media would have more likely noticed it.
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It’s kind of hard to vote for Ron Paul when his name isn’t on the selection anymore.. Hmmm?
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It’s kind of hard to vote for Ron Paul when they take his name off the selection list!
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Hey everyone. I used to be a Ron Paul supporter just like you. Not anymore. Why? I’ve discovered a great lie that’s been shaping our concions throughout our whole lives. That lie is that Russia and China etc. were or are communist countries. I’ve discovered that they never were communist. They are simply capitalist countries controled by the state which is where the United States is inevitably(if not already)headed.
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Jason replies:
November 15th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Please allow me to edit my last comment. Like I said. I used to be a Ron Paul supporter. However, I have discovered something very interesting. That discovery has to do with the issue of communism. Did you know that there are international communists that believe that Russia was never a communist country? When the eastern bloc fell in the late 80’s it was declared that communism was dead and that there was going to be a New World Order. What did this phrase New World Order Mean? It simply meant that the Russian bourgeoisie (Russian oil companies etc.) were going to lose there strategic positions throughout the world and that the United States was going to be the only remaining super power and that this super power could finally bring peace and stability to the world. After all with communism dead the world would be a much happier place. Is the world a much happier place? You decide. I would argue that it is no different today than it was in the late 80’s. In fact with the current financial crisis gripping the whole capitalist world, I would say that capitalism is rotting at it’s feet. What is capitalism’s solution to the current crisis? There is no real answer except for more State intervention. That’s it. Did you know that Karl Marx communism is about the elimination of the State. Neither did I, until I discovered true communism. International Communism. Please I urge you to google international communism or go to one of the many International Communist web sites, like internationalism.org or ibrp.org. Thank You for your time. You will not regret learning new things.
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Christopher replies:
November 15th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Wow Jason…
Yes, you are correct that the ultimate goal of communism is the elimination of the government and the state. However this state of “perfect equality” is only achieved through excessive state force and tyranny. Not only is this goal physically impossible but it is fundamentally flawed - (1) Achieving this state of equality is not possibly because ultimately we are all different and thus not equal (thus propagating a system of government tyranny that never ends and never finds a solution. (2) Absolute power always corrupts absolutely - and government ( now the ruling, reigning elite) never, EVER yield their power over to the proletariat, thus impossible. (3) The state is absolutely necessary to maintain LAW - otherwise you don’t have a society that is governed = Chaos.
Now did you forget that EVERY system ultimately has flaws?
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Terry replies:
November 16th, 2008 at 1:18 am
The goal of communism may have been to do away with the State. And this may or may not have been a stated and/or written goal. But, the idea of eliminating the State is only referring to eliminating the CURRENTLY EXISTING STATE. The underlying goal of communism is to eliminate ALL the States (nations) in the world and REPLACE them with a single, global State entity. This is precisely what noone wants. And the one-party (Republicrat) political system we have today is leading the USA in that very direction. This is exactly why America needs Ron Paul as its president. He is the one person who will truely do what he can to prevent this from happening.
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Ron paul as treasury secretary? that can be the best thing to happen to america in a long long time but it aint gonna happen for sure. No one has the guts to put the man in charge of the finances of the country who speaks truth and nothing but the truth. I think its high time barack obama actually changes something than just speaking about change. If we can really do it then mr.president please show us how it can be done.
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I am new to the site but not to Ron Paul and this movement. My question … WHAT IS THE CALL TO ACTION. What do we do guys and gals? That is the question that i wonder when i watch the news, read the blogs and newspapers. I am not a radical but i believe more and more that it is in our hands. How do we specifically get involved and what to we specifically do? Thanks
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I would love to see Ron Paul in a cabinet position. I would love to see more prominace of other parties(ie. Libertarians, Green, IG, Independent) in Congress in general
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Let us end the question about the superiority of Communism (or any other form of government) over Capitalism.
The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles, 1848) Part II lays out 10 measures of Communism. I’ll quote the Manifesto.
“… These measures will of course be different in different countries.
Nevertheless in the most advanced countries, the following will be generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of wastelands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc., etc. …”
5, 6 and 7 all reference a “state”. We all know that human greed and the human nature to “take the easy way” to an end will not allow the “state” to be all inclusive and will therefore develop into a centrist political machine that will be run by the few to control the masses.
8 discusses “equal liability of labor”. Not freedom to pursue ones own course.
9 discusses “a more equitable distribution”. More equitable for whom?
Contrary, true Capitalism without “legal plundering” allows for complete freedom of the individual (whether in self or group) of life, liberty and property.
True Capitalism is the ideal form of government.
Thanks,
kev
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Mitchell Bard replies:
November 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
You are a complete and utter moron… Communism is what led to the Korean and Vietnamese conflicts. Communism leads to abolition of freedom as we know (or knew) it. China suffers because of it. We wouldn’t be able to have blogs like this one, in particular to express our opinions. Read some more and stop posting blogs with the copy/paste feature. Establish your own opinion.
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To clear up one issue I did not use the copy/paste feature. I was commenting my contrary opinion on Jason’s earlier reply stating that Communism should be viewed as an alternative form of government.
Stating the true Capitalism in absence of “legal plunder” is the ideal form of government is my own opinion.
Would you like to expand on you opinion that you have complete freedom to state that I’m a moron and that I don’t have the freedom to express my own opinion?
Thanks,
kev
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I am not a fan of dictatorships or totalitarian governments however I would definitely support a Ron Paul dictatorship. America needs an honest, ethical. and benevolent dictator with a iron fist.
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THE PEOPLE have chosen socialism to solve their problems …Freedom is buried & the “majority” will welcome the NWO with open arms because they all work in Gov’T related jobs..GET IT YET ??
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I would not select him for a Cabinet post. As a fan of Ron Paul, I would leave him in the Congress, where he would be able to author very important legislation to repeal many laws and eliminate (or GREATLY reduce) taxes. I’d keep his advice (and his books) very close to my heart and to the planning phases of the federal action, and I’d recommend him for VP when the old one kicks.
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The mainstream media is a facade, the Republican and Democratic parties are equally parts of this facade. The front of this facade appears as a service “to serve and protect” the people, to “educate and inform”. On the reverse side of this facade and the only side that really counts, the interests of corporations and the power hungry are truely met and their agendas are the ones that are truely “served and protected”. Ron Paul is not mainstream, someone like Ron Paul is a trouble maker for the mainstream because he goes against the grain and he speaks truth. Ron Paul is understanding of the visions of our founding fathers such as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and George Washington. I honestly believe Ron Paul wants a sovergn United States and an American people who are free where the people are entitled to the freedoms protected by the Bill of Rights and our government is held accountable to the people and the Constitution in which our government is obligated. The mainstream is one world socialist government and how could any of the above fit into that agenda? It couldn’t! This is why a Ron Paul or a Bob Barr or any non mainstream political/social figure will never be accepted by the mainstream. This is why such persons will nore their supporters will never recieve fair and balanced coverage from the main stream media. This is why they will never recieve the financial backings of the elite and corporations for their campaigns. And this is why such persons will never see acceptance by the powers that be in the Republican and Democratic parties unless they are trying to bribe and shut them up. Ron Paul speaks of revolution and thats what this country needs, peacefull where possible and maybe even violent if neccicary. I used to feel pretty hopeless about where this country is heading, felt like things were out of control with no help in sight. But I see the American people waking up to whats going on. I see people getting sick of the mainstream and gradually demanding change. That was what was required in 1774 and thats what is required in 2008 and beyond. Fleet Admiral Isokuru Yamamoto was the man who developed and coordinated the plan for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on Dec. 7, 1941. The admiral understood the American people better than any other within the Japanese military and he was against going to war with the US but as a patriot and a military officer he did his duty as best he could. When Yamamoto first started recieving reports of the Attack on Pearl Harbor he said “I am affraid that all we have done is awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve”. Isokuru Yamamoto understood what can happen when Americans get pissed off and decide they are not going to put up with shit anymore. I think this is a lesson that has been forgotten by the American people and equally important, it has been forgotten by our government. I think it’s time for the American people to remind future generations of Americans that this spirit did not die with the end of WWII. I think Ron Paul is a part of the new movement that the facade and the mainstream will not be able to stop and he has my full support.
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This is all bullshit. I worked the victory gardens of WWII , manned the U Boat spotter stations on Long Island Sound served in the militay in the fifties I worked every menial job I could find to put myself through school.I should be the Emperor Of Ice Cream.Maybe a depression would be good for the country. The me generations would have to learn to do without.They would be smarter,tougher, more American than whining fat- assed couch potatos (or does it have an “e”.).The money supply is increasing at warp speed,The coast to coast tv stations are posing Obama as a “black” president (He is half white).The Treasury Secretary will do what his foreign handlers want him to do no matter who he is,
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Mitch replies:
November 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
It doesn’t matter what color a man is… The point is that he’s our elected president… An a depression would KILL anyone that wasn’t making $150K or more right now… Do you REALLY think the govt. would bail US out in such a crisis??? C’mon… The food, electricity, heat, etc would be govt. regulated and would only go to the people that would serve the interests of the govt. You lived thru WW2, good for you and thank you for the service, but you didn’t live thru a great depression. War+another depression= mass suicide, rioting, which would only lead to more death, and with the weapons and technology the world has today, under the stress of such a time would lead to only more destruction, due to an increase of desperation for the world’s countries to show how much bigger a stick they have and could very well lead to the extinction of life on earth as we know it. Something needs to happen… I’m sure of that. But I’m not going to be just another person on here posting my opinions. I don’t have that ego. I do not know what needs to happen. I do know that in order for SOMETHING to happen there must be a leader. No offense to Ron Paul or Bob Barr, but they’re old men. The world is falling into our hands day by day. The leaders of today are getting old. We are tomorrow. Are we seriously going to do something about it or is this the extent of our efforts? Blogging? Senate and congress? We know that does nothing. I think the time has come to take REAL action. Ron Paul spoke of revolution. We declared a revolution against Great Britain and our country was born. They stopped bitching and complaining and they took their country back. The time has come, people, when we, as a people, must once again, rise up against an enemy. Sadly, our enemy is a number of men and women that swore to protect our rights and freedoms, as Americans. As I said, Ron Paul spoke of a revolution…. When do we stop talking and start acting? Are we so stupid that we would allow ourselves to become cattle lined up for slaughter? Are we too afraid to die for a cause that would make this country a better place for those who would come after us? Or are we so caught up in ourselves and what we want that we forget that we will pass on and leave behind a new generation? I beg you to ask yourself this: “When I die, what will I take with me?”. Then ask yourself, “What will I leave behind?” After you answer those questions, does death seem so scary when you know that you died for something you truly believe in? One or two men like the Ron Pauls or the Bob Barrs of this country can do nothing. Power is truly in numbers. One more thing people… Please, don’t allow my daughter to grow up in a world that teaches in school about how the Declaration of Independence was created if it means nothing. I’m looking for a leader. If you are that leader, and you have a serious idea, one worth fighting for, I’m in. I’m right behind you. I admit, I do not have the brains to organize such a revolution. But I am willing to die next to the men and women that share my disgust for the way things are and share my heart to fight beside me to achieve a new America. I’m not afraid to die. I don’t want to, but I will if there is someone else who is willing to die with me. Thank you.
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