Comments on: Abortion and the Centralization of Power http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:17:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Craighttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-17051 Craig Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:59:04 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-17051 Piggy, you ARE in fact a cluster of cells. Read up in any Anatomy and Physiology textbook and educate yourself. Piggy, you ARE in fact a cluster of cells. Read up in any Anatomy and Physiology textbook and educate yourself.

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]]> By: Wendy Tedderhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-15420 Wendy Tedder Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:51:04 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-15420 Concerned Citizen: The most distressing thing about our current President is his continued speeches touting his administration's "over and above previous standards of ethical and truthful policies and actions" vs. his actions. Is anyone keeping count? Concerned Citizen: The most distressing thing about our current President is his continued speeches touting his administration’s “over and above previous standards of ethical and truthful policies and actions” vs. his actions. Is anyone keeping count?

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]]> By: Matthew Blackmonhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-15368 Matthew Blackmon Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:58:53 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-15368 As a rational could you will that your own embryo be aborted? Your life has a definite start and definite finish. I believe it is the liberty of every individual to be allowed the liberty to live life without interference from others. Any person that ends the life of another human being commits a crime against that human's liberty. As a rational could you will that your own embryo be aborted? Your life has a definite start and definite finish. I believe it is the liberty of every individual to be allowed the liberty to live life without interference from others. Any person that ends the life of another human being commits a crime against that human’s liberty.

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]]> By: Wendy Tedderhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-13038 Wendy Tedder Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:51:11 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-13038 Piggy,The cluster of cells that make up an embryo, or fertilized egg, is biologically unique. It has it's own DNA and is a very young human. I am the mother of identical twins and I can confidently say that the personality of the two girls was from before birth quite distinct. Something that is biologically an individual human and has its own distinct personality is, in my book, a human being. Abortion is the deliberate termination of such a being and all its potential. The fallout for the aborting mother is not minor, either. There are two victims in this event. Piggy,

The cluster of cells that make up an embryo, or fertilized egg, is biologically unique. It has it’s own DNA and is a very young human. I am the mother of identical twins and I can confidently say that the personality of the two girls was from before birth quite distinct. Something that is biologically an individual human and has its own distinct personality is, in my book, a human being. Abortion is the deliberate termination of such a being and all its potential. The fallout for the aborting mother is not minor, either. There are two victims in this event.

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]]> By: Chris Sandagehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11413 Chris Sandage Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:21:38 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11413 And Jake is right about people that think there's no difference between babies and chicken eggs. Denial that human beings are made in the image of God and therefore have intrinsic value is, I think, at the root of this issue.The logic is very simple, unborn human beings are human beings. When we kill unborn human beings, we're killing a human being. Is there anything wrong with killing a human being? If so, on what basis do we determine that there is something wrong with it? Animals are alive too; and what about vegetation and microbes, they're also living. How do we prevent the holocausts that occur when we breathe in and step on the grass?Rebellion agianst God results in moral absurdity. I recommend Christ and repentance; fixes all the fuzzy logic and comes with eternal benefits. And Jake is right about people that think there’s no difference between babies and chicken eggs. Denial that human beings are made in the image of God and therefore have intrinsic value is, I think, at the root of this issue.

The logic is very simple, unborn human beings are human beings. When we kill unborn human beings, we’re killing a human being. Is there anything wrong with killing a human being? If so, on what basis do we determine that there is something wrong with it? Animals are alive too; and what about vegetation and microbes, they’re also living. How do we prevent the holocausts that occur when we breathe in and step on the grass?

Rebellion agianst God results in moral absurdity. I recommend Christ and repentance; fixes all the fuzzy logic and comes with eternal benefits.

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]]> By: Chris Sandagehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11412 Chris Sandage Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:52:29 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11412 The differences between an unborn child and an otherwise born person are summed up by the acronym SLED: Size, Level of development, Environment, and Dependency. None of these are adequet reasons to deny the unborn child personhood.No one would say that a newborn baby is inhuman because he is smaller, less developed, in a different environment, or more dependant on other people than a six year old, but that's where pro-abortion logic takes us. It's arbitrary de-humanization so people can irresponsibly and immorally have their children executed.They're not just performing procedures on unwanted blobs of tissue, they're murdering unborn babies by the million and it should be stopped. I don't care if you're a professing Christian or not, you should be indignant about babies being murdered. The differences between an unborn child and an otherwise born person are summed up by the acronym SLED: Size, Level of development, Environment, and Dependency. None of these are adequet reasons to deny the unborn child personhood.

No one would say that a newborn baby is inhuman because he is smaller, less developed, in a different environment, or more dependant on other people than a six year old, but that’s where pro-abortion logic takes us. It’s arbitrary de-humanization so people can irresponsibly and immorally have their children executed.

They’re not just performing procedures on unwanted blobs of tissue, they’re murdering unborn babies by the million and it should be stopped. I don’t care if you’re a professing Christian or not, you should be indignant about babies being murdered.

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]]> By: Frankhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11327 Frank Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:52:50 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11327 PIGGY! So, we must all pay for what you believe and disregard our own beliefs. Freedom? of Choice? PIGGY! So, we must all pay for what you believe and disregard our own beliefs. Freedom? of Choice?

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]]> By: Donnahttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11272 Donna Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:29:46 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11272 Ken:Lately, there has been much information made available as to the viability of using adult stem cells, AS WELL AS discussion that embryonic stem cells do not produce the result that researchers initially thought they could produce. Therefore, it is crucial when discussing the benefits of stem cells that you differentiate between adult and embryonic cells.The problem with using embryonic stem cells regardless of whether or not using them will work is that those that perform abortions have found another opportunity to make money. The motivation behind these pro right entities should be evaluated by everyone attempting to argue the abortion issue. Human life is not a commodity to be used for selfish gain; just as slavery is something many of us abhor. It would be insightful to look into the many products that are made from aborted fetuses.Initially, the right to abortion was pushed to create safer standards of abortion in lieu of "back alley" abortions. That hasn't actually happened as many young girls and women have either lost their lives or have had subsequent problems either getting pregnant later on or with their health.Abortion has callused the hearts of people toward the value of human life whether it be a tiny baby or an elderly individual. Ken:

Lately, there has been much information made available as to the viability of using adult stem cells, AS WELL AS discussion that embryonic stem cells do not produce the result that researchers initially thought they could produce. Therefore, it is crucial when discussing the benefits of stem cells that you differentiate between adult and embryonic cells.

The problem with using embryonic stem cells regardless of whether or not using them will work is that those that perform abortions have found another opportunity to make money. The motivation behind these pro right entities should be evaluated by everyone attempting to argue the abortion issue. Human life is not a commodity to be used for selfish gain; just as slavery is something many of us abhor. It would be insightful to look into the many products that are made from aborted fetuses.

Initially, the right to abortion was pushed to create safer standards of abortion in lieu of “back alley” abortions. That hasn’t actually happened as many young girls and women have either lost their lives or have had subsequent problems either getting pregnant later on or with their health.

Abortion has callused the hearts of people toward the value of human life whether it be a tiny baby or an elderly individual.

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]]> By: Dave Ghttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11150 Dave G Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:33:44 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11150 No, they get embryonic stem cells from left over embryos at in vitro fertilization clinics (for those women who have trouble getting pregnant). They always make extra embryos in case it takes a few tries to get the women pregnant. There are a huge amount of these frozen embryos that mostly end up being thrown away. They do not get them from an aborted fetus', but from a very early stage when the embryo is just a few cells. Abortions occur much later, and at that stage there is a full fetus, not just a clump of cells. There is a big difference between a fetus (which has developed organs and can feel pain/sensation, and a ball of cells). No, they get embryonic stem cells from left over embryos at in vitro fertilization clinics (for those women who have trouble getting pregnant). They always make extra embryos in case it takes a few tries to get the women pregnant. There are a huge amount of these frozen embryos that mostly end up being thrown away. They do not get them from an aborted fetus’, but from a very early stage when the embryo is just a few cells. Abortions occur much later, and at that stage there is a full fetus, not just a clump of cells. There is a big difference between a fetus (which has developed organs and can feel pain/sensation, and a ball of cells).

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]]> By: Dave Ghttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/comment-page-1/#comment-11149 Dave G Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:21:48 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=625#comment-11149 Agreed. I could take a few cells from someones arm, and no one would say that is a fully conscious being. In theory you could grow any cell in the body into a embryo. All the embryos they use are just a few cells that lack a nervous system (have no sense of pain or consciousness) or the ability to survive.We also kill tons of sentient/intelligent animals every day for food, which often suffer greatly their whole life. Isn't that much more reprehensible? The embryos they use are from clinics that have tons of them, and will otherwise just be thrown away. Thus, it makes sense to use them to help actual people that are suffering with diseases. Agreed. I could take a few cells from someones arm, and no one would say that is a fully conscious being. In theory you could grow any cell in the body into a embryo. All the embryos they use are just a few cells that lack a nervous system (have no sense of pain or consciousness) or the ability to survive.

We also kill tons of sentient/intelligent animals every day for food, which often suffer greatly their whole life. Isn’t that much more reprehensible? The embryos they use are from clinics that have tons of them, and will otherwise just be thrown away. Thus, it makes sense to use them to help actual people that are suffering with diseases.

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