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  13. DN

    To those who are defending gun control with statistics, correlation does not imply causation. There are thousands of other factors that cause one society to be more violent than another.

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    1. derogative

      Yes like social injustice and economic gaps between classes, instead of protest people use guns.

      Or the countless anecdotes of children taking their father’s gun to school.

      Everything is working great in europe and canada shooting spree wise. But america will always love their big guns.

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  14. john the x robber

    as an x robber as, in my teens and being a crook, i prayed on the helpless. (call me a cowerd if you like, but im alive,) i robbed from the person i KNEW was unarmed. i broke into houses i KNEW they had no firearms. i even took a wallit strate out of a victims hands and he had tears in his eyes becouse he knew there was NOTHING he could do. ( easy pickins) im an adault now but i can still remember the looks on the helpless faces when they did not stand a chance. i do not do those things anymore but i DO know the unarmed are sitting ducks waiting to be plucked. and the way the economy is going, i may have to resort to that way of life again. ( i realy hope not) but if i do have to return to that kind of life , it would be easy when the law is on my side unarming the populace.

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  16. th

    Like most anti-gun folks. The previous posts fail to correct the bulk numbers for homicides into per capita values. There are 310 million people in the US vs 61 million in the UK, 34 million in Canada, and only 22 million in Australia. C’mon get a brain! So at the very least you need to divide the 10,000 US homicides (assuming that strangely round number is correct) by 5 to compare the US and UK. Also, the assumption that the statistics are collected in the same way from country to country is unlikely. What about he definition of homicide? Does it include justifiable homicide in the UK (i.e. self defense shootings and police shootings). In the US it probably does, while in the UK probably not, since they’d rather see an innocent person raped or murdered than see a criminal killed in self defense. According to polls guns are sued over 1 million times a year to prevent crime in the USA (most without a shot being fired or a bad guy killed). That’s a lot of crime prevented. Also violent crime is down in the US despite slacker gun control, adoption of castle doctrine law, and adoption of shall issue policy for concealed weapons permits. So the more guns = more crime argument just doesn’t work for the US.

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    1. PTB

      On a per capita basis, Americans only kill each other 3 times more often than in Australia, Canada, or the United Kingdom. The below numbers include firearms, knives, clubs, etc.

      Crime Statistics > Murders (per capita) by country
      United States: 4.2802 per 100,000 people
      Australia: 1.50324 per 100,000 people
      Canada: 1.49063 per 100,000 people
      United Kingdom: 1.40633 per 100,000 people

      Specifically looking at murders by type of weapon in the US, FBI statistics show 10,086 people were murdered by firearms in 2007. This total excludes persons shot by peace officers or shot by a private citizen in the course of stopping a crime or accidental deaths (law enforcement officers justifiably killed 391 individuals, and private citizens justifiably killed 254 individuals)

      I have not seen “According to polls guns are sued over 1 million times a year to prevent crime in the USA”. Can you provide a reference/source for this number?

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      1. tvyatm

        4x murders here in the US does not come close to reason in giving up our only vehicle of defense of our life of liberty is challenged. Get a new argument. I will die protecting my right to defend myself.

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      2. JohnWest

        The US has higher kill rate because you have the largest Nigga population of those mentioned and of course the most repressive drug laws.

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    2. PTB

      See below for statistics per capita. US statistics specifically do not include justifiable homicides or accidents.

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  17. mac B

    Its amazing to me that the gun nuts just dont get it. The stats in England are being construed by you people in such a way to make your case!!! The bottom line is still this. Even with a 53% increase in gun violence as you say , that takes the total number of gun deaths and crimes to 70 from 46. Thats still 9,930 less crimes committed by guns than here in the US. England has about 100 million people so … you do the math. Similar stats can be found for other conties such as Canada and Australia and most of Europe. Open your eyes and see that having hand guns only exaserbates the problem. Honestly dont you think that our founding fathers worded the 2nd ammendment in such a way as to deal with 18th century problems? Time to come back to the future people!!!! We live in a different world today and having everyone walking around with a handgun only clouds the issues as to who the criminals are and who normal people should be afraid of

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    1. Libertarian777

      why do people like you consistently think anyone who stands up for the 2nd amendment is a ‘gun nut’?

      it’s like saying anyone who stands up for the fourth amendment is a criminal because they have something to hide.

      England is known for its pretty violent society. There are daily reports in the newspapers about kids stabbing each other and civilians to steal cellphones and minor items.

      England is the nanny state. It has very high surveillance of its population (drive in downtown London and take a look around). Has all those CCTV cameras stopped crime? NO.

      The question is… why are YOU so scared of guns? If guns are so evil why do we let cops have them? Are cops by their nature super altruistic, highly trained and no longer human as a result? Have you never heard of any corrupt cop? Do you believe all gun owners are murderous civilians waiting to kill each other?
      If the latter why then don’t people currently run around with kitchen knives stabbing each other over minor arguments?

      Yes, guns kill people. Cars kill people too. So do doctors.
      Compare the number of deaths by firearms (I’d say exclude suicides, but include them if you want to skew the statistics), and compare it to the number of deaths in car accidents and number of deaths by physician mistakes. You should be protesting more for higher drivers license restrictions.

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      1. PTB

        It is so much harder to kill someone with a knife or club than with a gun. There are no drive by clubbings or knifings. Stabbing a store clerk on the other side of the counter is not easy to do. A brief twitch of a trigger finger allows murder at a distance or suicide by gun. Hanging, poisoning, hari-kari are possible to commit, but require much more time and effort. By the time you feel the suicide bullet, you are dead. Stabbing yourself multiple times or making a twelve inch cut requires much more time, effort, and determination. AFTER you feel the pain or to take the poison, there is much more time to change your mind or call for help. Not so with a gun.

        329 total persons were murdered (all homicides) in Australia all year.
        594 total in Canada. Winnipeg at a rate of 3.55/100,000 is their worst city. Detroit = 33.8, 10 times higher rate than the WORST city in Canada.
        New Orleans = 63.8, 20 times higher. Are Americans 20 times more evil?
        Less than 900 in United Kingdom (England, Scotland, and Wales)

        According to the FBI, 10,000 people are murdered in the USA by guns, PLUS 16,000 people commit suicide with guns EVERY YEAR

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  18. PTB

    According to the FBI, 10,000 people are murdered in the USA by guns, PLUS 16,000 people commit suicide with guns EVERY YEAR

    In Britain during 1998, when the Dunblane-inspired handgun ban took effect, there were 49 gun homicides, Britain’s Home Office says. Firearm homicides spiked at 95 in 2001, dropped to 68 in 2003, rose again the next year to 77, and have declined steadily since. Last year, there were 46.

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    1. Lindsey

      Maybe we need to examine our own morality in this country! From these statistics it seems that the gun ban had no effect on homicide in Britain.

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      1. PTB

        I agree. Almost no gun homicides in Britain before the additional restrictions, almost no gun homicides in Britain after the additional restrictions.

        Of course, Britain had quite severe restrictions on gun ownership before the Dunblane-inspired additions. The already existing restrictions could have something to do with the prior very low gun homicide rate.

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        1. derogative

          Of course its about culture, guns are not ripe in the succesfull countries like uk and canada.

          Civil demand for guns is immense in the usa, gun laws is about rooting out the deathly culture of gun ownership.

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        2. Allyn

          @derogative Guns are definitely deadly weapons, but they do their job. If we peer beyond the veil of the amount of murders between the UK and US which involve firearms and look at the real crimes that motivate these murders such as thefts and assaults we can see where guns do their job.

          “Home Office figures showed the murder rate in the US in 1998 was 6.3 per 100,000 people compared with 1.4 per 100,000 in England and Wales. The murder rate in London is 2.9 per 100,000 compared with 8.6 per 100,000 in New York and 49.15 per 100,000 in Washington DC. It shows the murder rate was 5.7 times higher in the US than England and Walesand the rape rate was about three times higher.

          The report also showed firearms were used in 68% of murders in the UScompared with 7% in England and Wales, and in 41% of robberies inAmerica against 5% in England and Wales. But the rates for assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft were all lower in America than in England and Wales. ”

          Guns end up in killing more people, but this is the higher risk of engaging with a firearm. This risk also serves as a deterrent for those who would commit crimes that endanger the health and property of citizens. This is what the founding fathers had in mind when they designed the 2nd amendment.

          I will take my firearms any day over reliance on some government power to protect my life and property since the criminals will always have access to firearms whether or not the citizenry is permitted to possess them.

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  19. PTBItte

    Yearly statistics:
    Less than 400 total homocides in Autralia

    Less than 900 total homocides in England

    10,000 homocides via guns alone in the USA.

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    1. SS

      55% of gun deaths in America are suicide not homicide.

      John R. Lott, an economist who is now a senior research scholar at Yale Law School, has published studies that conclude that state laws allowing any citizen with no criminal record to obtain a concealed weapon permit lead to lower rates of violent crime, including murder.

      Britain has overtaken the US for all major crimes.

      In reality, the English approach has not re-duced violent crime. Instead it has left law-abiding citizens at the mercy of criminals who are confident that their victims have neither the means nor the legal right to resist them. Imitating this model would be a public safety disaster for the United States.

      In the two years following the 1997 handgun ban in Britain, the use of handguns in crime rose by 40 percent, and the upward trend has continued. From April to November 2001, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 percent.

      Gun crime is just part of an increasingly lawless environment. From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in England’s inner cities increased 91 percent. And in the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York.

      When you take the guns of law-abiding citizens, guess what, the criminals still have guns.

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  22. RJ

    The gun buying frenzy in recent weeks is NOT because,

    Obama is black and to assassinate a black president,

    Nor is is because we the people are afraid our government will ban guns,

    Sure, there may be exceptions, but no, the real reason is that,

    We the People know that we may have to stand up to a tyrannical, socialist government hell bent on destroying our rights and freedoms and it IS every United States citizens’ DUTY, yes DUTY, to keep and bear arms. All armament, not just a handgun, per OUR God given rights and the Constitution of the United States of America. Anyone against these principals is a traiter to this country which so many have died to protect. Your and your childrens freedom and liberty are at stake and the second ammendment is what stands between being a controlled slave and a free man when your government no longer represents its people. I will take freedom and liberty or death before being a slave.

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    1. 1950 US Patriot

      Amen, Amen;
      Ever notice how our valiant leaders have never served our country in the military?
      Agree, our solemn duty is to the preservation of America as a Democracy. Millions of us civies have fought and served before; looks like round two just may be called. Only trouble is, patriots are scattered all over our great land, no central organization.
      We owe our liberty and freedom and allegiance to America and interestingly enough we owe the rest of the world to show them sheeples how to fight back and win against the NWO. Getting tired of U.S.A. always being the tip of the spear.

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      1. RJ

        America as a ‘constitutional republic’ as intended by our forefathers. And to the ‘republic’ for which it stands….. Democracy is just mob rule.

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        1. 1950 US Patriot

          Right you are.
          Just think, without Democracy, we could have always been just as miserable as the rest of the socialist world.
          America, a most complex and wonderfully free and generous society.

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  23. Connelly Barnes

    I read on Wendy McElroy’s website:

    http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2190

    That an economist did an analysis of whether police use traffic tickets to offset financial crises. The answer turns out to be yes. This doesn’t really surprise me, as I live in Princeton, NJ, and there are so many traffic tickets given out by the police here, that I find it more convenient just to walk everywhere (plus it’s healthier, but still the situation is sad). I contested and won a traffic ticket case for going 37 MPH right before a 40 sign. Sigh.

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  24. Matt Sr.

    If guns kill people, then I can blame misspelled words on my pencil!

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  25. mike w.

    “In my country, Sweden, the population is disarmed. We have one of the lowest crime rate in the world.”

    It’s not the guns it’s the culture. Swedish culture is entirely different than the U.S. That and you guys have an extremely homogeneous society not seen in the U.S.

    And actually the U.S has very little crime outside of major cities. A huge majority of violent crime in this country is urban black on black crime perpetrated by 18-25 year old black men.

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  26. mike w.

    “I doubt anyone would sell guns if they knew that they would be responsible for the damage it does.”

    Sean – You’re kidding right? Why should the seller be responsible for criminal misuse of their products? Can you imagine what that’d do to our legal system. Following your logic we should make car manufacturers and liquor companies responsible for drunk driving deaths and knife manufacturers and cutlery stores legally responsible for stabbings……

    Wonderful idea there buddy.

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  27. mike w.

    “We should outlaw pistols and concealed weapons. What need do we have to hide our weapons in order to use them for self defense? A shotgun would help just as much.”

    What? Should we outlaw the internet because of the potential harm it might cause? After all we still have newspapers and other free speech mediums so outlawing free speech online wouldn’t be an infringement on the 1st Amendment right? (just drawing a parallel to your “let’s ban handguns” idiocy) You do realize handguns are constitutionally protected arms don’t you? or does the Constitution not matter to you?

    Oh, and newsflash. The folks out committing crimes with concealed weapons are carrying them illegally. Folks like myself who go through the hassle of getting concealed carry permits aren’t the ones committing crimes.

    If it weren’t for the fact that so many Americans have an irrational fear of guns I’d just carry openly.

    I suggest you go about your business carrying a shotgun everywhere for self-defense. Let me know how that works out for you.

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  28. mike w.

    “There are limits to the rights granted by the first amendment (yelling “fire” in a movie theater for free speech, polygamy for freedom of religion, libel for freedom of press, etc.), why should there not be reasonable limits on the rights granted in the second amendment?”

    Irish. You seem to have missed the fundamental difference in your “crowded theater” comparison.

    1. Gun control laws are a priori restrictions on a Constitutional right. The crowded theater restriction on 1st Amendment rights is based on ones actions. The law doesn’t muzzle me or cut out my tongue in order to prevent me from yelling “fire” in the theater. It doesn’t punish me, a law-abiding citizen, because a subset of the population makes a habit of yelling fire in crowded theaters. No, in the crowded theater example you are punished for your actions because said actions cause immediate harm to others.

    Your comparison is 100% invalid, as the crowded theater exception punishes the MISUSE of free speech. We already have laws against rape, murder, robbery and other forcible violent crimes. Such laws punish criminals for their ACTIONS. Gun control does nothing but restrict the rights of those who have done nothing wrong.

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  29. INFERNO

    Another thing,
    I have never and will never register a gun,all that does is gives the confiscators a direct path to where they need to go and take them from you,the NAZI SS used gun registrations to locate and imprison gun owners when the gun bans were put in place,those refusing to surrender,were killed,”BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT”
    don’t think it’s gonna happen here,keep dreaming,it’s here,that’s why Ron Paul is warning us now,he knows there is going to be a revolution,and an attempt at a hostile military takeover of our nation,”read between the lines”,
    THIS IS A WARNING FROM A SITTING CONGRESSMAN,please take his words as a warning of things to come,Realize that to the federal government of the United States,if you love your rights and freedoms,”YOU ARE A TERRORIST”….

    INFERNO

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  30. INFERNO

    Sean,and anyone else with his mindset,

    You need to look at history yourself,”WE” were totally defeated in Vietnam,Lost millions of acres of ground to the VC,over 50,000 American service men killed,another 35,000 maimed for life,countless returning Vietnam soldiers mentally dead from what this war did to them,and more that have never been accounted for and are still considered MIA,you call that a victory?
    I don’t know where you get your information,but we did not win the war in Vietnam,militarily or economically,and the whole fiasco was a shameful blackeye for this country,you’ve spewed a lot of crap about not liking guns,but have completely failed in providing an alternative to the situation,I am a gun owner,and like many other Americans,I refuse to be disarmed by a government that will in turn,use my vulnerability and defenselessness against me,even if every gun on the planet were to be done away with,people would still kill because they are just demented that way,they would find some other means whether it be ball bats,knifes,a piece of rebar,whatever,see you need to think before you go off on some rant about taking guns away from the people,if you don’t want to own a gun,”FINE”,enjoy being a victim,
    “but don’t you dare tread on my right to own a gun”,because I refuse to be a victim,and I have “No Faith” in the police ever protecting me or my family,remember,they only show up if you call them,if your dead,you can’t call anybody…
    I don’t know who you are,but I can tell by your post that you’ve never “studied” history,Stalin,Lenin,Hitler,Mao,all supported gun bans,look what happened to the people who went along with them,people who support gun bans should (first),be ashamed of yourself for claiming citizenship of America,but turning on the very document that allows you to be American,
    (second),if you want to live in a country that it’s citizens have no right to self defense,I suggest you move to China,they’ll gladly welcome anybody who likes total dictatorial rule,after all,no guns,no crime right?But also no rights,no ownership,no freedom of religion,no security in your home,no right to defend yourself in court,you see the can of worms you open if you start putting restrictions on any part of the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
    Regardless of how you think “Restrictions” would stop gun violence,you need to realize,
    “CRIMINALS DON’T BUY THEIR GUNS LEGITIMATELY”
    so no amount of gun legislation will ever stop or reduce crime,it will only create a society of victims that can’t protect themselves,your reasoning makes no sense,if I,a legal gun owner have a gun stolen in a burglary of my house and that gun is later used in a crime,should I be held responsible for the crime?Remember,I was also a victim of this criminal,
    The solution to our problem is not taking guns away from people who have them legitimately,but putting the criminals that commit crimes in jail,instead of running them through a revolving door court system that has failed this nation grossly.Pot smokers spend more time in jail than murderers,is that justice?

    If you give up your right to self defense,what will you surrender next,the right to be secure in you home by letting law enforcement in to trample into your house,unwarranted and rooting through your life any time they please?

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  31. brian

    our governent has allowed our country to be bought.our oficials have been bought.news media bought.world bankers tighten their grip and steal trillions from us.they control and plan everything.they seek to fragment us. they want wars. they want cultures , relegions,races killing each other while they sit back and gain control of the world.i think the leaders and the bankers who control our leaders should fight on the same battlefield as all of the expendable soldiers.america has more cultures and relegions than any other country in the world. if we cant make it happen here (freedom liberty and justice for all.)the world will live tyrany.we will all be part of someones equation.2nd amendment yes, constitution yes , bill of rights yes.patriot act no,homeland sec. no.they want a police /military state.its already begun. thomas jefferson ron paul bob marley .yes. the rules of engagement should be made clear. catrina for instance ,nra won suit but police , military not in jail? patricia konie and so many more.when they come to your house with guns.and try to seize your right to protect yourself if you were to shoot them i would find you within your right of self protection. they tramppled on the constitution in catrina . everybody that fought for freedom is in disbelief.if we all fight we will win…the police ,military serve the citizens.not to controll us.OR EVER TAKE OUR RIGHTS .

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  32. Ken Freeman

    In the nightmare scenario of our own military being used against us in the coming challenges I’d have to hope that ‘most’ of our soldiers wouldn’t fire on civilians. Answering questions on military application forms is easy, reality is quite different. We can hope anyway. But be prepared for the worst in any event.

    We’re hopefully a long way from that though. NOW is the time to act and march on Washington en masse peacefully. No weapons of any kind except loud voices and clogged streets.

    Wake the sheeple!

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    1. 1950 US Patriot

      Heard lately that we probably won’t have to worry about fighting our own troops. That’s why America is hosting a whole lot of foreign “blue hat” U.N. troops. They have no problem with firing on American civilians, it’s not their people. You see some blue hats coming at you, start unloading just under the hats. They all have those great armour vests we civies are not allowed to wear. If you don’t have an auto rifle before, you’ll have plenty after your smoke clears.
      As for local cops, has anyone noticed in recent years, the cops are getting more beligerent, standoffish, gruf and much less helpful? Wonder if they all would have a change of heart or just side with the gov. for their own sake?
      As far as marches; Washington will sit up and take us seriously only if we can get many millions to march together at the same time and surround the capital and White House. Peacefully, of course.

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  33. Greg

    People wake up! First off I can maneuver through the halls of my house a lot better with a handgun than a shotgun. I also live right between the cities of Trenton and Camden in NJ. I could go buy an illegal gun right now if I wanted. Sweden may be able to restrict the amount of guns in their country, but that is because their borders are secured by mountains. It’s the same thing with Switzerland. Countries don’t stay neutral in world wars unless it isn’t worth it for the aggressors to go through their countries. The mountains are a good deterrent. So while Sweden may be able to keep guns out the US never will. The US has thousands of miles of open border. Think about it how many thousands of kilos of Cocaine are smuggled across the border. That could just as easily be guns. Sweden also has a more civil population. In the US we have a ton of people that are more than happy to take what is yours to make themselves better off. Most crime is committed with illegal guns. Under Bill Clinton we were told we had to surrender anything our government deemed assault weapons even though the the amount of gun crime that was committed by citizens who purchased these assaults weapons legally was only .17 percent. That is less than one percent. If someone commits a crime against you with a gun you have a 24 percent chance of being injured if you don’t resist at all. That percent drops to 17 percent when you resist with a firearm.

    I recall England banning guns several years back. They are a closer example to the US than Sweden. Let’s see how they are doing. Just read the following article. The numbers were prepared by the UN which is extremely anti-gun.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/798708/posts

    Now as for the whole American citizens would never defeat the best army in the world. Sorry but that is just crap. We already did it once. England didn’t know what hit them. The fact is any population that goes to war against an occupying force wins as long as they are determined. The Afghans did it to the Russians,and the Vietnamese did it to the US. Almost 50% of the population in the US owns guns. That’s 150 million people and that only the people that are telling you they have guns. Combine that with the fact that most military officers are pro gun and we have a pretty good chance. Add in the fact that more than half of all enlisted personnel that are asked if they would ever fire on American civilians because the civilians refused to surrender their arms said no. It’s looking pretty good for the Gun owners. I find it funny that every man or woman that applies for Spec ops in the US has to answer the question of whether or not they would fire on Americans who didn’t surrender their guns. That’s just creepy. Why does the government even ask that.
    Now you have to add in the fact that the biggest armored bases in the world are in Kentucky and Texas were very gun friendly. I’m pretty sure that armed Texans and Kentuckians would get their hands on those tanks.

    In Freedom,
    Greg

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  34. Clayton

    My reasons to own a gun.

    -To protect my family. Just let a dangerous criminal bust through my door. He is sure to find himself lying on the floor filled with buckshot.

    -To supply my family with food. Unlike all the anti gun people. I have the ability to fend for myself and my family. No matter how poor I become. With flour and a gun I can prepare a three course meal.

    Now, after reading my statements. Do you think that guns should be banned?

    If you still believe that guns should be banned. You are obviously a moron. I would love to see you put in a situation that you need a gun. So that I could say. I told you so.

    Being a good Christian I would not let you die, I would take you in and protect you and yours with a gun.

    Wow, the device that you said should be banned just saved your life in a time of need!

    I hope you get the Idea.

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    1. 1950 US Patriot

      With you most of the way!!! Only trouble I have is with sheeple. If they bang on your door for protection, don’t close your eyes they just can not be trusted not to turn you in for their own sake.

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  35. Ken Freeman

    The fear of guns and real freedom runs strong and deep in the sheeple. Sad. Somehow the warrior spirit of this country needs to be rekindled but I’m not sure how. So many generations of our people have been taught not to think for themselves.

    Street crime aside, the current government has just stolen trillions of dollars from you and continues to do so every day. They do so in plain sight with no restrictions and no accountability through the Fed and the Treasury. This money was stolen by private companies run by the wealthiest and most powerful scumbags on this planet. Now if you, or your children choose not to pay it back the IRS will throw you in prison.

    This simple criminal act proves that the government is no longer yours or mine. The pigmen of the world now own our government and have launched an all out assault on every single working citizen. Do you really think they’ll stop with just your money?

    Please wake up and join a cause to fight this. If you want to carry weapons or not doesn’t matter. Respect our founding rights and realize the very real crimes commited against you and act before it’s too late.

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