Comments on: Ron Paul’s Audacity of Hope http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited, constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, sound money, and a pro-American foreign policy. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:21:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Genhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12154 Gen Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:32:30 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12154 Okay…I need to ask a favor. Most posts on Ronpaul.com have been intellectually based and interesting. I’ve been watching this site for a while (as well as other Ron Paul sites) and only joined for discussion a couple of days ago to post. I rarely do this forum thing (for reasons you all probably know). I dropped in on a forum on Amazon (the strand was spelled incorrectly – but who cares… typos happen). It was interesting reading and opinion, and of course morphed into completely different topics than it started.I saw that the intellectual conversation on this thread (out of the whole forum) was stopped by someone extremely negative who had no place there. Instead of respond, people dropped out of the forum and this person managed to stop this thread for two months. Of course I think this is ridiculous, so I reply to someone in the forum ignoring this particular person. That person then places another vicious post in response to me.Can anyone please visit and post in this forum just to passively combat this person’s tactics?http://www.amazon.com/Slaery-Reparations/forum/Fx1OUR5CL0L4L8F/Tx2WHF4J3FWV1KU/1/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1596985666&cdSort=newest&newContentID=Mx1AP1KRBU9JINY#Mx2CCB2393MKKBPI know, a commercial site, idiots, spelling errors… who would have thought. Okay…

I need to ask a favor. Most posts on Ronpaul.com have been intellectually based and interesting. I’ve been watching this site for a while (as well as other Ron Paul sites) and only joined for discussion a couple of days ago to post. I rarely do this forum thing (for reasons you all probably know). I dropped in on a forum on Amazon (the strand was spelled incorrectly – but who cares… typos happen). It was interesting reading and opinion, and of course morphed into completely different topics than it started.

I saw that the intellectual conversation on this thread (out of the whole forum) was stopped by someone extremely negative who had no place there. Instead of respond, people dropped out of the forum and this person managed to stop this thread for two months. Of course I think this is ridiculous, so I reply to someone in the forum ignoring this particular person. That person then places another vicious post in response to me.

Can anyone please visit and post in this forum just to passively combat this person’s tactics?

http://www.amazon.com/Slaery-Reparations/forum/Fx1OUR5CL0L4L8F/Tx2WHF4J3FWV1KU/1/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1596985666&cdSort=newest&newContentID=Mx1AP1KRBU9JINY#Mx2CCB2393MKKBP

I know, a commercial site, idiots, spelling errors… who would have thought.

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]]> By: Seanhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12092 Sean Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:09:59 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12092 Your right.. you know we kept worrying about the national debt rising 4 trillion dollars over the past 10 years before the bailouts, but we have had a trade deficit of 3.5 trillion dollars in that same length of time.. We need a large national defcit and more money because we have such an unfair balance of trade. With a 3% GDP, that .5 trillion dollar gain we've had in the past 10 years doesn't nearly add up to the total amount of money we should be at.. If you look at the debt to gdp%, we are at the same amount of debt as we were in 1990 but we pretty much had a trade surplus so we had an abundance of money. With NAFTA and all these free trade agreements, we are giving all our money away. We have to print more and more money just to keep from being bankrupt. The problem is that other countries are getting richer by extracting our money supply. Your right.. you know we kept worrying about the national debt rising 4 trillion dollars over the past 10 years before the bailouts, but we have had a trade deficit of 3.5 trillion dollars in that same length of time.. We need a large national defcit and more money because we have such an unfair balance of trade. With a 3% GDP, that .5 trillion dollar gain we’ve had in the past 10 years doesn’t nearly add up to the total amount of money we should be at.. If you look at the debt to gdp%, we are at the same amount of debt as we were in 1990 but we pretty much had a trade surplus so we had an abundance of money. With NAFTA and all these free trade agreements, we are giving all our money away. We have to print more and more money just to keep from being bankrupt. The problem is that other countries are getting richer by extracting our money supply.

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]]> By: Genhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12082 Gen Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:25:48 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12082 Sean, You've hit a one big point in this. We developed all of this technology - cars, television, phones, electricity, computers; we were the ones producing and selling for years; we respected patents. Then, one by one, every company sold. Every electronics company has been sold to other countries, even Zenith (our last one); US automotive companies build elsewhere - reducing the number of jobs, yet still selling the products to all of us at the same price. From my observations, the reduction in number of companies available, and the increase of foreign companies and import, all has a root cause... greed. Moves like this are made to pad the bank accounts of those on top. While I don't fault anyone for hard work or building companies from nothing... selling the technology and company names, or shipping factories elsewhere to increase their income, has caused a lot of our economic problems. They don't mind selling outside of our country, adding to our demise, because they do benefit greatly by doing so. And for some reason, people still believe what the government is doing in regulating some of these companies, collecting 50% of the profit of oil drilled here, forcing small companies to give benefits they can't afford (an entirely different rant deserved for that one)... is going to fix it all! What it does is makes running a business here a lot more difficult and costly. Why can't all this funding spent by the government on all of the above and bailouts, be spent on establishing loans (aka it will actually be paid back) for citizens and small companies to re-establish factories and the resource production that we once had. Just dream about toys that aren't filled with poison, schools that aren't based on funding for special this and that, and taxes steadily decreasing so that we may actually be able to go back to single income family units where children are not raised by TVs (again, an entirely different rant deserved for that one).What we need is someone who is not greedy and who also has common sense in charge.- Gen in Texas Sean,
You’ve hit a one big point in this. We developed all of this technology – cars, television, phones, electricity, computers; we were the ones producing and selling for years; we respected patents. Then, one by one, every company sold. Every electronics company has been sold to other countries, even Zenith (our last one); US automotive companies build elsewhere – reducing the number of jobs, yet still selling the products to all of us at the same price.
From my observations, the reduction in number of companies available, and the increase of foreign companies and import, all has a root cause… greed. Moves like this are made to pad the bank accounts of those on top. While I don’t fault anyone for hard work or building companies from nothing… selling the technology and company names, or shipping factories elsewhere to increase their income, has caused a lot of our economic problems. They don’t mind selling outside of our country, adding to our demise, because they do benefit greatly by doing so. And for some reason, people still believe what the government is doing in regulating some of these companies, collecting 50% of the profit of oil drilled here, forcing small companies to give benefits they can’t afford (an entirely different rant deserved for that one)… is going to fix it all! What it does is makes running a business here a lot more difficult and costly.
Why can’t all this funding spent by the government on all of the above and bailouts, be spent on establishing loans (aka it will actually be paid back) for citizens and small companies to re-establish factories and the resource production that we once had.
Just dream about toys that aren’t filled with poison, schools that aren’t based on funding for special this and that, and taxes steadily decreasing so that we may actually be able to go back to single income family units where children are not raised by TVs (again, an entirely different rant deserved for that one).

What we need is someone who is not greedy and who also has common sense in charge.

– Gen in Texas

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]]> By: Seanhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12011 Sean Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:16:49 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12011 Actually, the passport laws set in 2006 say that we need passports to travel by air and by sea.. Just last month, Dec. 7th, 2008 a new law was passed which now you have to have a passport to travel by land across the border. So I don't think that they are trying to open up the borders regardles what conspiracy theories you hear. We are actually moving in the opposite direction. We also are just finishing up building a 10 ft. fence that runs along the border. Actually, the passport laws set in 2006 say that we need passports to travel by air and by sea.. Just last month, Dec. 7th, 2008 a new law was passed which now you have to have a passport to travel by land across the border. So I don’t think that they are trying to open up the borders regardles what conspiracy theories you hear. We are actually moving in the opposite direction. We also are just finishing up building a 10 ft. fence that runs along the border.

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]]> By: Seanhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12009 Sean Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:02:26 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12009 I'm pretty sure the Amero was made up by some artist who was selling it on the street as art.. I’m pretty sure the Amero was made up by some artist who was selling it on the street as art..

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]]> By: Voodootreehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-12004 Voodootree Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:58:36 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-12004 Am I the only one concerned most about the attacks upon freedom? Economies can be remade in peace with some trouble. Freedom, once lost, requires war to remake. Am I the only one concerned most about the attacks upon freedom? Economies can be remade in peace with some trouble. Freedom, once lost, requires war to remake.

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]]> By: Americanhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-11998 American Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:32:06 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-11998 Very true Ross. I agree. It is very close in plans to make the The North American Union and the so called "Amero" a realilty but I disagree with the idea. What good will it do us if we have open borders or no borders at all with Mexico and Canada since they would be part of it. Our dear United States would never be the same in other words it's like living without a soul if it came down to that plan. Very true Ross. I agree. It is very close in plans to make the The North American Union and the so called “Amero” a realilty but I disagree with the idea. What good will it do us if we have open borders or no borders at all with Mexico and Canada since they would be part of it. Our dear United States would never be the same in other words it’s like living without a soul if it came down to that plan.

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]]> By: Ross Johnsonhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-11995 Ross Johnson Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:14:22 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-11995 I think that there is a push on by the corporates to have the North American Union and a new currency called the Amero.The US dollar is on the brink of collapse.If the corporates get in first, they can sell their US $ before the collapse.Also the US has a trade debt to China for $2.5 trillion which is private debt.They could reduce this debt by buying Ameros and letting the dollar collapse.The US public will lose out again since they will be the last to know. This is just theft.If the Amero does come to fruition,the American public must not let the Federal Reserve own it or this scenario will be repeated again.A new currency must be owned by the people. I think that there is a push on by the corporates to have the North American Union and a new currency called the Amero.The US dollar is on the brink of collapse.If the corporates get in first, they can sell their US $ before the collapse.Also the US has a trade debt to China for $2.5 trillion which is private debt.They could reduce this debt by buying Ameros and letting the dollar collapse.The US public will lose out again since they will be the last to know.
This is just theft.If the Amero does come to fruition,the American public must not let the Federal Reserve own it or this scenario will be repeated again.A new currency must be owned by the people.

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]]> By: Seanhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-11953 Sean Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:14:17 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-11953 As a result to Bush destroying the steel industry with high tarrifs, the price of oil skyrocketed. Many people blamed Katrina which actually had virtually little effect on the price of gas. It was the cost for oil pipelines that raised the price for crude oil.. Alan Greenspand raised interest rates 5 times or more in 2004 and continued raising rates through 2005 before Katrina ever hit due to rising costs of fuel. So the problem with the oil industry happened before Katrina.. Ben Benarke took over after Alan Greenspand and was going to reverse the interest rates but did not because the housing industry seemed to be improving, unfortunetly it was due to subprime mortgaging and not a strengthening economy. Actuality, the economy was losing money at a rapid pace because of interests. This is the major problem that led to unemploymet. We still have this probelem because of the steel industry. They tried telling us this when asking for a trillion dollar bailout in the summer of last year and again just a couple days ago. Bush destroyed about six major steel companies. Now only two remain and cannot produce as much as we demand. That is even what they have mentioned in their plea for help. I believe we should look into this problem and not overlook its importance. We really need to fix this problem if we want limited government. There are two ways of taking over control, by force and by stealth. We can't achieve limited government by attacking the system, instead we must fix and build the system where it does not need government intervention. With more steel production we can increase supply and lower the cost for investments. We can build an economy that works on its own without the malpractice of the Federal Reserve whom raises interest rates because of our uncontrolable growth.. We need to control growth to eliminate it's needs and the needs for other government intervention. As a result to Bush destroying the steel industry with high tarrifs, the price of oil skyrocketed. Many people blamed Katrina which actually had virtually little effect on the price of gas. It was the cost for oil pipelines that raised the price for crude oil.. Alan Greenspand raised interest rates 5 times or more in 2004 and continued raising rates through 2005 before Katrina ever hit due to rising costs of fuel. So the problem with the oil industry happened before Katrina.. Ben Benarke took over after Alan Greenspand and was going to reverse the interest rates but did not because the housing industry seemed to be improving, unfortunetly it was due to subprime mortgaging and not a strengthening economy. Actuality, the economy was losing money at a rapid pace because of interests. This is the major problem that led to unemploymet. We still have this probelem because of the steel industry. They tried telling us this when asking for a trillion dollar bailout in the summer of last year and again just a couple days ago. Bush destroyed about six major steel companies. Now only two remain and cannot produce as much as we demand. That is even what they have mentioned in their plea for help. I believe we should look into this problem and not overlook its importance. We really need to fix this problem if we want limited government. There are two ways of taking over control, by force and by stealth. We can’t achieve limited government by attacking the system, instead we must fix and build the system where it does not need government intervention. With more steel production we can increase supply and lower the cost for investments. We can build an economy that works on its own without the malpractice of the Federal Reserve whom raises interest rates because of our uncontrolable growth.. We need to control growth to eliminate it’s needs and the needs for other government intervention.

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]]> By: Slimeattackhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2008-12-30/ron-pauls-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-11922 Slimeattack Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:11:22 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=722#comment-11922 Matt - the first third of the eighties were indeed horrible - the Fed raised interest rates to curb inflation, which caused a painful recession and almost kicked Reagan out of office. Reagan did do, up to an extent, remain loyal to low taxes and small government, so the economy managed to strike back from the bottom. Matt – the first third of the eighties were indeed horrible – the Fed raised interest rates to curb inflation, which caused a painful recession and almost kicked Reagan out of office. Reagan did do, up to an extent, remain loyal to low taxes and small government, so the economy managed to strike back from the bottom.

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