Comments on: Friendship And Commerce With All Nations http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:52:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jeff http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-14214 jeff Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:32:18 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-14214 sorry for not responding i have not been checking my emails but to answer your question on ww2 i think with much confidence and facts that ww2 was provoked by the us government (mainly FDR). If you look at the events leading up to pearl harbor you would notice that although America was not in the war they sold weapons to Great Britain and other countries that i cannot remember which is in clear violation of the wartime rules. Another disturbing fact is that a certain corporation in the U.S which i can't remember sold explosives to Germany during ww2 if that doesn't sound crazy enough for you the President of that corporation was Prescot Bush(fmr president bush's grandfather). I also would like to bring up pearl harbor because well don't you find it weird that japan was able to get past the U.S without any radar picking them up if you do that's good because the U.S did pick it up on the radar they simply wanted it to happen. FDR was sympathetic to bankers because most of his family was made up of them. If you at ways the federal reserve banks could profit number one on the list would be war. It causes the government to borough more money from the banks meaning more debt that we must pay back from taxes. Even though it created jobs if now look at society today all of the programs such all welfare, medicaid are one of the many reasons we are in a recession.If you would like to learn more please go to ZEITGEIST.COM and watch both documentaries although they say some crazy stuff about religion don't believe focus on everything but that and thanks for listening Nate. sorry for not responding i have not been checking my emails but to answer your question on ww2 i think with much confidence and facts that ww2 was provoked by the us government (mainly FDR). If you look at the events leading up to pearl harbor you would notice that although America was not in the war they sold weapons to Great Britain and other countries that i cannot remember which is in clear violation of the wartime rules. Another disturbing fact is that a certain corporation in the U.S which i can’t remember sold explosives to Germany during ww2 if that doesn’t sound crazy enough for you the President of that corporation was Prescot Bush(fmr president bush’s grandfather). I also would like to bring up pearl harbor because well don’t you find it weird that japan was able to get past the U.S without any radar picking them up if you do that’s good because the U.S did pick it up on the radar they simply wanted it to happen. FDR was sympathetic to bankers because most of his family was made up of them. If you at ways the federal reserve banks could profit number one on the list would be war. It causes the government to borough more money from the banks meaning more debt that we must pay back from taxes. Even though it created jobs if now look at society today all of the programs such all welfare, medicaid are one of the many reasons we are in a recession.If you would like to learn more please go to ZEITGEIST.COM and watch both documentaries although they say some crazy stuff about religion don’t believe focus on everything but that and thanks for listening Nate.

]]> By: Nate http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12779 Nate Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:03:35 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12779 The third option you're looking for is simply that getting out is an eventuality. It was neither the New Deal nor the War that got us out. Also, as long as humans want/need something, there is always a demand for labor. The best way to allocate labor and set the prices for it is the free market. A very wasteful and inefficient way to do so is through government interventions like wars and New Deals. Yes it's much easier to perceive the demand that was brought on by the war because the demand for labor that would have existed in other areas was redirected to the war effort. We would have gotten out quicker if the government had stayed out of the way. Indeed, if it was WWII that got us out of the Great Depression, the solution to busts is quite simple. Start a World War (and make sure you win). The third option you’re looking for is simply that getting out is an eventuality. It was neither the New Deal nor the War that got us out.

Also, as long as humans want/need something, there is always a demand for labor. The best way to allocate labor and set the prices for it is the free market. A very wasteful and inefficient way to do so is through government interventions like wars and New Deals.

Yes it’s much easier to perceive the demand that was brought on by the war because the demand for labor that would have existed in other areas was redirected to the war effort.

We would have gotten out quicker if the government had stayed out of the way.

Indeed, if it was WWII that got us out of the Great Depression, the solution to busts is quite simple. Start a World War (and make sure you win).

]]> By: nobody http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12778 nobody Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:25:54 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12778 Nate & fluidly unsure: I believe we are on the same page in reference to WW2 finance & labor ,Deficite spending ,Thanks for the responce... Now, we find ourselves in a situation where deficit spending will be on top of deficit spending ,compounding the bad financial markets...Not good..The retirement age has arrived...WE are done investing in profit ventures as an age group & the leaders are not prepared... Nate & fluidly unsure: I believe we are on the same page in reference to WW2 finance & labor ,Deficite spending ,Thanks for the responce… Now, we find ourselves in a situation where deficit spending will be on top of deficit spending ,compounding the bad financial markets…Not good..The retirement age has arrived…WE are done investing in profit ventures as an age group & the leaders are not prepared…

]]> By: Fluidly Unsure http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12765 Fluidly Unsure Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:58:09 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12765 I believe there was a significant increase in the demand for labor caused by massive military contracts paid for by deficit spending. Some say this masked the effects of the Depression in America, others say it got us out. One way or another it had a tremendous effect on the working public. The idea that it got us out sounds more plausible to me than the New Deal bailing us out. I have yet to hear a reasonable third option. I believe there was a significant increase in the demand for labor caused by massive military contracts paid for by deficit spending. Some say this masked the effects of the Depression in America, others say it got us out. One way or another it had a tremendous effect on the working public.

The idea that it got us out sounds more plausible to me than the New Deal bailing us out. I have yet to hear a reasonable third option.

]]> By: Nate http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12753 Nate Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:08:37 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12753 I didn't take the wrong outlook from your words. I said i didn't think you thought WWII was what got us out of the Great Depression and you have now confirmed my thoughts with "not WW2 in & of itself". I was not concerning myself with the boom that took place after. In any case, my confusion was originally with fluidly unsures post (which is why i replied to it). I didn’t take the wrong outlook from your words. I said i didn’t think you thought WWII was what got us out of the Great Depression and you have now confirmed my thoughts with “not WW2 in & of itself”. I was not concerning myself with the boom that took place after.

In any case, my confusion was originally with fluidly unsures post (which is why i replied to it).

]]> By: nobody http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12745 nobody Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:25:37 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12745 Nate; Please reread my comments, you took the wrong outlook from my words... It was what happened the years following WW2 that paid for our profiteering not WW2 in & of itself...Babyboom , needs & wants ..Developement, society in progression...We have not planned very well for society going into retirement & slowing of needs & wants ...The population booom is over.. WE have abortion now...The babyboomers' needs & wants have changed & they are for the most part satisfied...They are only looking to get un-earned income with which to last out their lifetime...This is the REAL crisis....Too much monie in the hands of babyboomers who nolonger are able to produce...Alas the monies have been stollen from them NOW ,but there is no one to take up the investment monies to give them back un-earned income....Retirement looks dimm to nill for us at the low end of the past economy.... Nate; Please reread my comments, you took the wrong outlook from my words… It was what happened the years following WW2 that paid for our profiteering not WW2 in & of itself…Babyboom , needs & wants ..Developement, society in progression…We have not planned very well for society going into retirement & slowing of needs & wants …The population booom is over.. WE have abortion now…The babyboomers’ needs & wants have changed & they are for the most part satisfied…They are only looking to get un-earned income with which to last out their lifetime…This is the REAL crisis….Too much monie in the hands of babyboomers who nolonger are able to produce…Alas the monies have been stollen from them NOW ,but there is no one to take up the investment monies to give them back un-earned income….Retirement looks dimm to nill for us at the low end of the past economy….

]]> By: Nate http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12673 Nate Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:40:02 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12673 After reading your posts, I'm concluding you don't think WWII was what got us out of the Great Depression. If so, then we have nothing more to talk about on that topic. After reading your posts, I’m concluding you don’t think WWII was what got us out of the Great Depression. If so, then we have nothing more to talk about on that topic.

]]> By: nobody http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12661 nobody Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:44:10 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12661 Today we pay for yesterday ,as long as there is National Debt...You not only pay for yesterday but also pay todays interest$$..You are not just paying a bailout today, the compound interest $$ goes into National Debt also...WASTE, WASTE, WASTE...The World fianciers LOVE the U.S.A. Today we pay for yesterday ,as long as there is National Debt…You not only pay for yesterday but also pay todays interest$$..You are not just paying a bailout today, the compound interest $$ goes into National Debt also…WASTE, WASTE, WASTE…The World fianciers LOVE the U.S.A.

]]> By: nobody http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12659 nobody Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:28:55 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12659 Well Nate; WW2 cost monies to finance ..Yes there is prosperity in war time, for those who finance..Those of us that earn our living while war is going on MUST eventualy pay the financiers back by way of taxes & National debt...SO you essentially end up paying the wages you earned during the war back to the financiers in the form of National debt...War does make work which causes profit for those who finance....You get a job that defers your wage to a later date after the war...You pay...Taxes,taxes that are sucked off of profits after the war,like during the 50's & 60's.... Well Nate; WW2 cost monies to finance ..Yes there is prosperity in war time, for those who finance..Those of us that earn our living while war is going on MUST eventualy pay the financiers back by way of taxes & National debt…SO you essentially end up paying the wages you earned during the war back to the financiers in the form of National debt…War does make work which causes profit for those who finance….You get a job that defers your wage to a later date after the war…You pay…Taxes,taxes that are sucked off of profits after the war,like during the 50’s & 60’s….

]]> By: Nate http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-05/friendship-and-commerce-with-all-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-12657 Nate Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:28:36 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=740#comment-12657 Oh. I was hoping for a "yes" or "no" type answer (with some commentary of course) to my WWII confusion. Oh. I was hoping for a “yes” or “no” type answer (with some commentary of course) to my WWII confusion.

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