My question, I have been attacked on numerous occassions by people saying Ron Paul hates unions, point 2, he crossed a picket line somewhere maybe Wal Mart? Have no clue, I understand why and how Ron is oppossed to socialism with tax dollars. At the same time is he oppossed to labor unions that confine their interests to safety, environmental and wages hours and working conditions? I would think not as Corporate America in many ways has raped this country in more ways then one. I see labor unions as a necessity to balance power between the have and have nots. Freedom promotes bottom up control, labor can and does do this, they also can be top down if let go out of control.

Can labor over step, YES. Have they gone too far…sometimes yes, not as far as what has been done to us by Corp America though. Help me answer or better understand Ron’s position on labor so I can win more people over to the liberty movement.

I know why I switched, for liberty, freedom, based on solid sacred ground and wisdom of our forefathers, to end the Fed etc truth! Greater moral ground etc.

Yet I still feel there is definitely a place for labor here. Help me find better understanding of Dr Pauls true position.

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Don Grinde

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“Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.” 1 Corinthians 14:34

I would encourage some common sense. Civil Liberties as provided to us by MAN in the constitution and the basic HUMAN RIGHTS which should be guaranteed to every human being are “God Given” if you want to go that far and should be respected without any religious affiliation.

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“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

Time for all to ditch pride and arrogance and get on our knees before our Creator (John 1:1-14)

By the way, do you know what a “civil right” is? I don’t have any “civil rights” and I don’t want any whatever they are. This country was built on God given unalienable rights partially defined in the Bill of Rights which are not “civil rights”…..

Civil Right – “The only absolute and unqualified right of a United States citizen is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States,” US vs. Valentine 288 F. Supp. 957

Civil Right – “The privileges and immunities clause of the 14th Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates the Bill of Rights, nor protects all rights of individual citizens. Instead this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship.” Jones v. Temmer, 89 F. Supp 1226

Enjoy your “civil rights”.

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The point I was trying to raise is that Andrew Jackson was able to get rid of our debt without a central bank. We may have developed a debt again, but in a manner that can be managed. Not just unstoppable debt caused by central banks and laws made in their favor.

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Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

This country used to recognize these facts of Law….

God’s Laws – “Man’s laws are strengthless before God’s laws, consequently a human law, directly contrary to the law of God, would be an absolute nullity.” Borden vs. State, 11 Ark 519, 526 (1851)

God’s Law – “Any law contrary to the Law of God, is no law at all.” Sir William Blackstone.

“God alone is the lawgiver of eternity”. Judge Henry Clay Dean, Crimes of the Civil War, 1868, pages 428-432.

God’s Law – James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

For those that laugh at these statements; you need not wait too long before God judges us without pity or mercy for our pride and arrogance and the INNOCENT blood that runs from the abortion clinics, homosexual marriages, etc.

“And My eye will not spare you, neither will I have pity; but I will bring recompense for your evil ways upon you, while your abominations are in the midst of you [calling down punishment from a righteous God]; and you shall know (recognize, understand, and realize) that I am the Lord.” Ezekiel 7:4 (Amp)

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Moving on, there are three types of money. Commodity money (gold/silver coins, etc), Representative money (certificates that can be exchanged for some amount of a commodity), and fiat money (paper currency not backed by any hard asset).

You are correct to point out that under the fractional reserve system they’re supposed to keep 10% as reserves. But, contrary to what you believe, this is inherently unstable and vulnerable to bank runs. Indeed, as Rothbard points out, under a fractional reserve system all banks are technically insolvent at any given time. I’ll give you a simple example later…

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Nate was right, the true free market economist predicted this disaster. You Tube Peter Schiff, watch how the moron Art Lafer, along with all the other fox business analyst laughed at him in 06 and 07. or read EMPIRE OF DEPT, by Bill Bonner. Written in 05, he called the effects of this housing bubble. Their is also Doug Casey, Bud Conrad, Addison Wiggin and many others. all free market economist, all predicted this.

They didn’t predict it cause they thought interest rates were to high, they simple knew the effect of credit expansion and economic bubbles.

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