Ron Paul Introduces Bill to Audit the Fed
February 26, 2009
Madame Speaker,
I rise to introduce the Federal Reserve Transparency Act. Throughout its nearly 100-year history, the Federal Reserve has presided over the near-complete destruction of the United States dollar. Since 1913 the dollar has lost over 95% of its purchasing power, aided and abetted by the Federal Reserve’s loose monetary policy. How long will we as a Congress stand idly by while hard-working Americans see their savings eaten away by inflation? Only big-spending politicians and politically favored bankers benefit from inflation.
Serious discussion of proposals to oversee the Federal Reserve is long overdue. I have been a longtime proponent of more effective oversight and auditing of the Fed, but I was far from the first Congressman to advocate these types of proposals. Esteemed former members of the Banking Committee such as Chairmen Wright Patman and Henry B. Gonzales were outspoken critics of the Fed and its lack of transparency.
Since its inception, the Federal Reserve has always operated in the shadows, without sufficient scrutiny or oversight of its operations. While the conventional excuse is that this is intended to reduce the Fed’s susceptibility to political pressures, the reality is that the Fed acts as a foil for the government. Whenever you question the Fed about the strength of the dollar, they will refer you to the Treasury, and vice versa. The Federal Reserve has, on the one hand, many of the privileges of government agencies, while retaining benefits of private organizations, such as being insulated from Freedom of Information Act requests.
The Federal Reserve can enter into agreements with foreign central banks and foreign governments, and the GAO is prohibited from auditing or even seeing these agreements. Why should a government-established agency, whose police force has federal law enforcement powers, and whose notes have legal tender status in this country, be allowed to enter into agreements with foreign powers and foreign banking institutions with no oversight? Particularly when hundreds of billions of dollars of currency swaps have been announced and implemented, the Fed’s negotiations with the European Central Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and other institutions should face increased scrutiny, most especially because of their significant effect on foreign policy. If the State Department were able to do this, it would be characterized as a rogue agency and brought to heel, and if a private individual did this he might face prosecution under the Logan Act, yet the Fed avoids both fates.
More importantly, the Fed’s funding facilities and its agreements with the Treasury should be reviewed. The Treasury’s supplementary financing accounts that fund Fed facilities allow the Treasury to funnel money to Wall Street without GAO or Congressional oversight. Additional funding facilities, such as the Primary Dealer Credit Facility and the Term Securities Lending Facility, allow the Fed to keep financial asset prices artificially inflated and subsidize poorly performing financial firms.
The Federal Reserve Transparency Act would eliminate restrictions on GAO audits of the Federal Reserve and open Fed operations to enhanced scrutiny. We hear officials constantly lauding the benefits of transparency and especially bemoaning the opacity of the Fed, its monetary policy, and its funding facilities. By opening all Fed operations to a GAO audit and calling for such an audit to be completed by the end of 2010, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act would achieve much-needed transparency of the Federal Reserve. I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
111th Congress – 1st Session
H.R. 1207
A BILL
To amend title 31, United States Code, to reform the manner in which the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is audited by the Comptroller General of the United States and the manner in which such audits are reported, and for other purposes.
1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the “Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009″.
SEC. 2. AUDIT REFORM AND TRANSPARENCY FOR THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM.
(a) IN GENERAL. – Subsection (b) of section 714 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking all after “shall audit an agency” and inserting a period.
(b) AUDIT. – Section 714 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:
“(e) AUDIT AND REPORT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM. -
“(1) IN GENERAL. – The audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks under subsection (b) shall be completed before the end of 2010.
“(2) REPORT -
“(A) REQUIRED. – A report on the audit referred to in paragraph (1) shall be submitted by the Comptroller General to the Congress before the end of the 90-day period beginning on the date on which such audit is completed and made available to the Speaker of the House, the majority and minority leaders of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, the Chairman and Ranking Member of the committee and each sub-committee of jurisdiction in the House of Representatives and the Senate, and any other Member of Congress who requests it.
“(B) CONTENTS. – The report under subparagraph (A) shall include a detailed description of the findings and conclusion of the Comptroller General with respect to the audit that is the subject of the report, together with such recommendations for legislative or administrative action as the Comptroller General may determine to be appropriate.”.
Sponsor
Rep. Ronald Paul [R-TX]
Cosponsors
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I wonder if Ron Paul realizes that a good argument for his bill to audit the fed is based in the constitution? If so why hasn’t he brought it up? “Article 1. Section 9. No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expendatures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.” The fed’s secrecy is another in your face violation of the Constitution. In other words audit the fed is already fundemental law, but like so many other things is being ignored by the federal government.
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Check this out! State governments are pushing back!
IDAHO
http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/legislation/2009/HJM004.pdf
WHEREAS, Congress has inappropriately delegated its monetary authority to the private federal reserve bank, thus failing to protect and provide a sound monetary system as defined and mandated by the Constitution of the United States, forcing an unstable currency on us resulting in the past, and the current, economic perils; and
WHEREAS, a number of proposals from past and present Administrations and Congress may violate the Constitution of the United States.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the members of the First Regular Session of the Sixtieth Idaho Legislature, the House of Representatives and the Senate concurring therein, that the state of Idaho hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States
at the state sovereignty site
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/23/state-sovereignty-resolutions/
Not all of the state’s petitions read exactly alike. Check out your state.
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Ya, both ponzi schemes and non intrinsic value currency systems are always based on a system of IOU’s, and that is what FED notes really are, IOU’s to energy producers. Every ponzi scheme is based on the same thing, and to keep going you must always issues more and more debt, so in that sense they are both one in the same.
This is where this “spend more is good” concept comes from. People spend more which means barrowing more, and as long as energy producers keep on trading their energy products in the currency barrowed on which is a storage vessel, or bank volt rather of IOU’s it can maintain. This ponzi system can maintain because there are two investment avenues for this keep functioning “absorption channel” & “capital account channel” and this is why, so called, “free trade” is such a big deal. You must keep expanding empire to maintain. Thing is the FED is setting the American people up to be Bernie Madoff, and anyone else barrowing Federal Reserve Notes. The Euro among others are also petro ponzi IOU currency systems too.
Just a note here, I have figured out what the filter programs stop, and what grabs the attention of moderators of major media message boards and blogs when I post about such a topic. Anytime “energy producers” or “oil producers” is posted with “FED” or “RFB” “Reserve Notes” exedra and “U.S. Government” within the same content together it seems to be taboo. Oh, and “protection racket” is bad too.
I am not allowed to post how the macro dynamics of FED Notes operate. Not on Youtube, and not on major media blogs and or message boards. This below in quotes is what I am not allowed to post, or anything like Quote> “The 1 2 3 & 4 parts of Real World Economics 1>FED Notes would be worthless unless 1st demanded by energy producers 2>Energy producers would not demand FED Notes unless they’re protected by the U.S.Gov. in their ownership of energy production, and protect the places where they store their savings 3>The U.S.Gov. would not be able to protect :energy producers :the FED that issues FED Notes nor places where energy producers store their savings unless 4>the U.S.Gov. can finance a 1st class military” <End Quote
This is not about fait currency dynamics which is only relevant on a micro scale, but without the above macro dynamic currency would have no faith behind it on a day to day bases.
P.S. I am never given an explanation why the posting is so controversial to the point that I am not allowed to ever post such information.
I don’t know…Because their PONZI scheme might collapse?
The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of 9 associated banks with the Rothschilds at the head: (Mostly Foreign Owned)
$1. Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
$2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
$3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
$4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
$5. Lehman Brothers of NY
$6. Kuhn, Loeb Bank of NY (Now Shearson American Express)
$7. Goldman, Sachs of NY
$8. National Bank of Commerce NY/Morgan Guaranty Trust (J. P. Morgan Bank – Equitable Life – Levi P. Morton are principal shareholders)
$9. Hanover Trust of NY (William and David Rockefeller & Chase National Bank NY are principal shareholders). Here & Here
TIME LINE OF THE FOREIGN-OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
1791-1811: Rothschilds’ First Bank of the United States
1816-1836: Rothschilds’ Second Bank of the United States
1837-1862: Free Banking Era – no formal Central Bank through the efforts of President Andrew Jackson
1862-1913: System of National Banks through the efforts of President Andrew Jackson
1913-Current: Federal Reserve Act effects a consortium of privately held Jewish & associated banks called the Federal Reserve Bank. The largest shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank are the Rothschilds of London holding 57% of the stock which is not available for public trading
On May 23 1933, Congressman Louis T. McFadden brought impeachment charges against the members of the Federal Reserve Bank. A smear campaign against McFadden ensued and he was poisoned 3 years later.
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Dear Mr. Paul
It’s all said in two words,Thank You
Please don’t stop fighting, We’re All behind you and the numbers are growing.
We will win. We run this country,We the people,I think that Washington forgot that,Remind them for us.
Mitchell
I called, and wrote, my district rep (D) in DC strongly urging sh/im to cosponsor HR 1207. Don’t be afraid to do the same, even if you think your rep is rabidly migrating in the other direction (like mine is). These bailout bonzo’s need to get constant bombardment from people like us who are tired of supporting every tom dick and jane who doesn’t want to work for a living, or who doesn’t have the courage to take a job in the private sector. I hear about young folks almost every day who join the military and get sent off to Iraq and then to Afghanistan before their term is up (and sometimes when it’s almost up!), as well as those going to work for govt agencies that will have them spying on their fellow citizens, as well as their own families. Do we need to be harrassed to death when we’re just minding our own business working and trying to support our families? I really can relate to the guy who said he used to be in the middle class but no longer is because of our tax-paid terrorists whose tax code even they can never get their minds wrapped around. If you are not clever enough, the taxman will surely put you in the poor house. Beware and keep good track of your expenditures, receipts, etc. Keep good records so that you don’t fall victim to the tax-paid theives and thugs. Try using TurboTax or hiring a good CPA. It is worth the peace of mind and can result in a refund instead of a payment. Don’t be forced into borrowing money to pay taxes, or anything. Start saving and paying cash instead of using credit. Freedom comes from being free of debt. The bailout situation is resulting in keeping the interest rates too low for way too long. I keep hearing that the crash has not happened yet, but when it does, have your backyard garden going, as well as raising a few hens. Democrats/Socialists are all for population control, e.g., abortion, but if several million of us starve in the next few years, they won’t even shed a tear. They supposedly love the environment and animals, but humans they could care less about–we are expendable. We need more people like Ron Paul. I hear his son may run for congress, also keep your eyes on folks associated with the Mises Institute (as is Dr. Paul), as well as Classical Liberals (more conservative than your average republican) and folks from the Constitution Party. Many of these people used to be registered as democrat and republican (myself included) over the years but never felt quite like they’d really made a change.
After all this time finally the lames in Congress get behind a Ron Paul bill. RP has been consistent all these years, now finally some of the brain washed congresspeople (who normally swing votes in the favor of their financial overlords) are feeling the pain of the peoples voice and the potential loss of votes and campaign funding. It will be interesting to see how the banks try and shoot this down, as they most definitely will try.
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Does anyone else think this could be the major economic event of the century if it happens??
Auditing the Fed sounds like belling the cat. Or putting salt on a bird’s tail to catch him. It is an honorable attempt to rein in a huge festering cancerous growth on the world’s free market mentality. Should HR 1207 not pass, or worse it passes but the audit never takes place, then I hope Dr. Paul has the next bill written and waiting in the wings–outright abolishing the Fed and going on the gold standard.
There are communities that are starting their own currency and banks–unrelated to our current fiat money and fractional banking schemes. These are the types of things that we should have the courage to go forth and do. Look up Dr. BJ Lawson of NC–under his guidance, his community revived a local currency. And if you live near him in NC, please vote for him when he runs for Congress again. He is a friend of Dr. Paul.
Getting media coverage to interview live with democratic and republican co-authors will sell HR 1207… it could become the economic story of the century…
I just sent emails with the links to HR 1207 on RonPaul.com… to the producer of Coast to Coast Am – ‘CoastProducer@aol.com’-suggesting also that if democratic and republican co-author’s were interviewed, live on Coast to Coast AM, discussing the significance of HR 1207… they would be breaking a story, beating other main stream media to the punch…
PS
The congressmen who support the bill may be saving their own careers and gaining national support.
SY MikeJaeger@live.com
What can I do to help get more cosponsors for the bill
I am writing to my two Alabama senators to cosponsor S604. What else can I do?
Meagan, thank you for that long treatise from Ellen Brown. Sorry but I’m not getting excited about it. Fiat currency by any other name is still fiat currency. Fractional banking is the problem. Loose credit is the problem. I used to get 3-4 credit card offers per day in my mail. I used to get preprinted credit cards, huge loan offers–and after telling them to stop doing that, they ignored me. I was in constant fear someone would intercept my mail and send one of those in my behalf. I was quite powerless to stop the deluge. No doubt most other people have suffered the same assault. I wondered why such things occurred because, like other horrible things, e.g., abortion and genetic engineering, it just wasn’t supposed to happen! But a lot of crazy people are promoted way past their level of ignorance, especially in the banking industry where people with no college degree at all are promoted to VP. Here’s a good place to start learning about economics: The Mises Institute.
Did you happen to read this letter below? We must audit and then eliminate the Federal Reserve, and then revive our constitutional monetary system. It’s important to know that as a solution Lincoln’s monetary policy is not new, but “a brilliant innovation of the American colonists”. Please help get this information out to people and the article below to Obama and help him see there are alternatives to his big spending approach that ‘we the people’ implore him to explore. Please read and forward to President Obama at: president@whitehouse.gov . Thanks.
Revive Lincoln’s Monetary Policy: an Open Letter to President Obama
by Ellen Brown
Dear President Obama:
The world was transfixed on that remarkable day in January when, to poetry, song, and dance, you gazed upon Abraham Lincoln’s likeness at the Lincoln Memorial and searched for wisdom to navigate these difficult times. Indeed, you have so many things in common with that venerable President that one might imagine you were his reincarnation in different dress. You are both thin and wiry, brilliant speakers, appearing on the national stage at pivotal times. Fertile imaginations could envision you coming back triumphantly as one of those slaves you freed, to prove once and for all the proposition that all men are created equal and can achieve great things if given a fighting chance. But as Wordsworth said, our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; and if that is true, you may have forgotten a more subtle form of slavery from which Lincoln freed his countrymen, even if you were there at the time. You may have forgotten it because it has been omitted from the history books, leaving Americans ill-equipped to interpret the lessons of our own past. This letter is therefore meant to remind you.
We are now met on another battlefield of that same economic war that visited Lincoln and the Founding Fathers before him. President Obama, the fate of our economy and the nation itself may depend on how well you understand Lincoln’s monetary breakthrough, the most far-reaching “economic stimulus plan” ever implemented by a U.S. President. You can solve our economic crisis quickly and permanently, by implementing the same economic solution that allowed Lincoln to win the Civil War and thus save the Union from foreign economic masters. Lincoln’s Monetary Breakthrough
The bankers had Lincoln’s government over a barrel, just as Wall Street has Congress in its vice-like grip today. The North needed money to fund a war, and the bankers were willing to lend it only under circumstances that amounted to extortion, involving staggering interest rates of 24 to 36 percent. Lincoln saw that this would bankrupt the North and asked a trusted colleague to research the matter and find a solution. In what may be the best piece of advice ever given to a sitting President, Colonel Dick Taylor of Illinois reported back that the Union had the power under the Constitution to solve its financing problem by printing its money as a sovereign government. Taylor said:
“Just get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes … and pay your soldiers with them and go ahead and win your war with them also. If you make them full legal tender … they will have the full sanction of the government and be just as good as any money; as Congress is given that express right by the Constitution.”
The Greenbacks actually were just as good as the bankers’ banknotes. Both were created on a printing press, but the banknotes had the veneer of legitimacy because they were “backed” by gold. The catch was that this backing was based on “fractional reserves,” meaning the bankers held only a small fraction of the gold necessary to support all the loans represented by their banknotes. The “fractional reserve” ruse is still used today to create the impression that bankers are lending something other than mere debt created with accounting entries on their books. 1
Lincoln took Col. Taylor’s advice and funded the war by printing paper notes backed by the credit of the government. These legal-tender U.S. Notes or “Greenbacks” represented receipts for labor and goods delivered to the United States. They were paid to soldiers and suppliers and were tradeable for goods and services of a value equivalent to their service to the community. The Greenbacks aided the Union not only in winning the war but in funding a period of unprecedented economic expansion. Lincoln’s government created the greatest industrial giant the world had yet seen. The steel industry was launched, a continental railroad system was created, a new era of farm machinery and cheap tools was promoted, free higher education was established, government support was provided to all branches of science, the Bureau of Mines was organized, and labor productivity was increased by 50 to 75 percent. The Greenback was not the only currency used to fund these achievements; but they could not have been accomplished without it, and they could not have been accomplished on money borrowed at the usurious rates the bankers were attempting to extort from the North.
Lincoln succeeded in restoring the government’s power to issue the national currency, but his revolutionary monetary policy was opposed by powerful forces. The threat to established interests was captured in an editorial of unknown authorship, said to have been published in The London Times in 1865:
“If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic during the late war in that country, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debt. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”
In 1865, Lincoln was assassinated. According to historian W. Cleon Skousen:
“Right after the Civil War there was considerable talk about reviving Lincoln’s brief experiment with the Constitutional monetary system. Had not the European money-trust intervened, it would have no doubt become an established institution.”
The institution that became established instead was the Federal Reserve, a privately-owned central bank given the power in 1913 to print Federal Reserve Notes (or dollar bills) and lend them to the government. The government was submerged in a debt that has grown exponentially since, until it is now an unrepayable $11 trillion. For nearly a century, Lincoln’s statue at the Lincoln Memorial has gazed out pensively across the reflecting pool at the Federal Reserve building, as if pondering what the bankers had wrought since his death and how to remedy it.
Building on a Successful Tradition
Lincoln did not invent government-issued paper money. Rather, he restored a brilliant innovation of the American colonists. According to Benjamin Franklin, it was the colonists’ home-grown paper “scrip” that was responsible for the remarkable abundance in the colonies at a time when England was suffering from the ravages of the Industrial Revolution. Like with Lincoln’s Greenbacks, this prosperity posed a threat to the control of the British Crown and the emerging network of private British banks, prompting the King to ban the colonists’ paper money and require the payment of taxes in gold. According to Franklin and several other historians of the period, it was these onerous demands by the Crown, and the corresponding collapse of the colonists’ paper money supply, that actually sparked the Revolutionary War.
The colonists won the war but ultimately lost the money power to a private banking cartel, one that issued another form of paper money called “banknotes.” Today the bankers’ debt-based money has come to dominate most of the economies of the world; but there are a number of historical examples of the successful funding of economic development in other countries simply with government-issued credit. In Australia and New Zealand in the 1930s, the Depression conditions suffered elsewhere were avoided by drawing on a national credit card issued by publicly-owned central banks. The governments of the island states of Guernsey and Jersey created thriving economies that carried no federal debt, just by issuing their own debt-free public currencies. China has also funded impressive internal development through a system of state-owned banks.
Here in the United States, the state of North Dakota has a wholly state-owned bank that creates credit on its books just as private banks do. This credit is used to serve the needs of the community, and the interest on loans is returned to the government. Not coincidentally, North Dakota has a $1.2 billion budget surplus at a time when 46 of 50 states are insolvent, an impressive achievement for a state of isolated farmers battling challenging weather. 3 The North Dakota prototype could be copied not only in every U.S. state but at the federal level.
The Perennial Inflation Question
The objection invariably raised to government-issued currency or credit is that it would create dangerous hyperinflation. However, in none of these models has that proven to be true. Price inflation results either when the supply of money goes up but the supply of goods doesn’t, or when speculators devalue currencies by massive short selling, as in those cases of Latin American hyperinflation when printing-press money was used to pay off foreign debt. When new money is used to produce new goods and services, price inflation does not result because supply and demand rise together. Prices did increase during the American Civil War, but this was attributed to the scarcity of goods common in wartime rather than to the Greenback itself. War produces weapons rather than consumer goods.
Today, with trillions of dollars being committed for bailouts and stimulus plans, another objection to Lincoln’s solution is likely to be, “The U.S. government is already printing its own money – and lots of it.” This, however, is a misconception. What the government prints are bonds – its I.O.U.s or debt. If the government did print dollars, instead of borrowing them from a privately-owned central bank that prints them, Uncle Sam would not have an eleven trillion dollar millstone hanging around his neck. As Thomas Edison astutely observed:
“If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good, makes the bill good, also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets money brokers collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%, whereas the currency pays nobody but those who contribute directly in some useful way. It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30 million in bonds and not $30 million in currency. Both are promises to pay, but one promise fattens the usurers and the other helps the people.”
A Wake-up Call
Henry Ford observed at about the same time:
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
Today we the people are starting to understand our banking and monetary system, and we are shocked, dismayed, and furious at what we are discovering. The wizard behind the curtain turns out to be a small group of men pulling levers and dials, creating an illusory money scheme that, behind all the talk and bravado, is mere smoke and mirrors. These levers are controlled by a privately-owned, unaccountable central bank called the Federal Reserve, which has recently dispensed billions if not trillions in funds to its banker cronies, without revealing where these monies are going even under Congressional inquiry or in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. As Chris Powell pointed out recently in conjunction with an FOIA request brought by Bloomberg News, which the Fed declined to comply with:
“Any government that can disburse $2 trillion secretly, without any accountability, is not a democratic government. It is government of, by, and, for the bankers.” 4
There was a time when private central bankers were the heavyweights in control, able to run their ultra-secret agenda with impunity; but that era is coming to an end. The bankers are scrambling, trying to patch up their crumbling creations with schemes, bailouts and sleight of hand. That effort, however, must ultimately prove futile. As investment adviser Rolfe Winkler said in a recent article:
“The great Ponzi scheme that is the Western World’s economy has grown so big there’s simply no ‘fixing’ it. Flushing more debt through the system would be like giving Madoff a few billion to tide him over. Or like adding another floor to the Tower of Babel. To what end? The collapse is already here. The question is: How much do we want it to hurt? Using the public’s purse to finance ‘confidence’ in a system that is already kaput may delay the Day of Reckoning, sure, but at the cost of multiplying our losses. Perhaps fantastically.” 5
The bankers are on the run, feverishly trying to use the collapse of the current system to steer us toward an “Amero”-style North American currency, or a one-world private banking system and privately-issued global currency that they and only they control. We the people will not accept those solutions, however, no matter how bad things get. We demand real solutions that empower us, not enslave us.
Abraham Lincoln had such a solution. President Obama, you can finally bring his monetary solution to fruition. Manifest the vision of Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and Franklin, and we the people will make sure you are placed in the pantheon of our greatest leaders and are revered for all time. America’s greatest days can still be ahead of us; but for this to happen, we need to expose and root out the deceptive banking scheme that would enslave us to a future of debt and increasing homelessness in this great country our forefathers founded. The time has come for democracy to rise superior to a private banking cartel and take back the power to create money once again. Such a transformation would represent the most epochal and empowering shift that humanity has ever seen. As you recently said:
“This country has never responded to a crisis by sitting on the sidelines and hoping for the best. Throughout our history we have met every great challenge with bold action and big ideas.”
Your words are a timely reminder of our long legacy of action and bold solutions in the face of adversity. Can we do this? Yes we can.
________________________________________
Ellen Brown, J.D., wrote this article in April, 2009, for Path to a New Economy, a collection of online articles for YES! Magazine, on economic and financial solutions. Ellen developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In Web of Debt, her latest book, she turns those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve and “the money trust.” She shows how this private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back. Her eleven books include the bestselling Nature’s Pharmacy, co-authored with Dr. Lynne Walker, and The Key to Ultimate Health (co-authored with Dr. Richard Hansen). Her websites are http://www.webofdebt.com and http://www.ellenbrown.com.
Wow, this is a load of crap. Apparently this woman has never read the constitution, because fiat currency is unconstitutional. Not only that but she has no idea about inflation. Greenbacks were fiat currency, and they DID lead to inflation post civil war, just like the CSA’s dollar and the Continental dollars of the War of American Secession (revolutionary war). If you print tons of money, this is by definition inflation, you are increasing the money supply, which then leads to price inflation. Every time you increase the supply of a commodity, like money, you reduce its value. She also probably hasn’t seen the cartoon from the civil war with Lincoln and his cabinet sitting around a table with a printing press going, printing…greenbacks! It was a satirical cartoon as well, highly unflattering to the tyrant’s administration.
Other than that, there are too many other historical inaccuracies to deal with, and I have a headache, but the money printing stuck out.
Dear Dr Paul, like most Americans I never paid much attention to what was happening with money & government. This financial crash has captured my attention because it hit my 401k and home value really hard. Now that I have taken the time to educate myself on some of the issues, and watching and listening to our government representatives, I am sickend by what I see happening. How did we ever get to this point in history? So many things need to change and this bill to try to reign in the FED is a good start.
People who don’t support Ron Paul simply do not pay attention. We have been brainwashed, every generation, since 1865–it is small wonder so many of us remain ignorant most of our lives–we are simply afraid to trust what we’re hearing if it’s different from the status quo. Negative publicity works very well. (Heck, look what LBJ did to drive down demand for eggs!)
It should be incumbent upon us to spread the word about Dr. Paul’s HB 1207 as far and wide as possible. Don’t be afraid of offending liberals and neocons, they certainly aren’t afraid to offend you!
Our government has bowed to economic terrorism to give huge sums of
dollars to the unaudited, therefore, secret operations of the Federal Reserve, a system that has foreign connections and is Federal in name only. Because of threats of economic disaster, we put future generations in tax bondage to pay for unaudited Federal Reserve operations. This is a good educational forum to learn from.
Ron, why is it that no one is questioning the govt sanctioning AIG creating a new company called AIU and allowing this new organization to be a lifeboat for AIG execs to jump ship from AIG?
Mr. Paul
I am an 18 year old college student that attends a very liberal university, and after seeing your website and reading your views I support you and your stance on nearly all subjects,I hope that your bill will aid in the limiting of this growing monster of bureaucratic mess that the US people have let ruin our country.
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Hi all,
just learning about this and I am looking to write an article on it in the student paper..
Upon my research I found that the Fed. has been audited regularly over the years..
So why do people say the Fed. has never been audited?
What will this bill do different/accomplish?
thanks– looking for info.
http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed35.html
Read it carefully
Thanks for the response.
I’ll have to reread that a couple of times, but basically the Fed controls the parameters of their audit and their foreign affairs are not subject to any audit?
Is this the gist of it?
Basically yes. However I wouldn’t say “foreign affairs”. Best to keep with slightly more precise language.
From the link…”GAO auditors are restricted by law from reviewing monetary policy operations and transactions carried out by the Federal Reserve on behalf of foreign central banks.”
Which is why Ron Paul’s states in his speech “The Federal Reserve can enter into agreements with foreign central banks and foreign governments, and the GAO is prohibited from auditing or even seeing these agreements. Why should a government-established agency, whose police force has federal law enforcement powers, and whose notes have legal tender status in this country, be allowed to enter into agreements with foreign powers and foreign banking institutions with no oversight?”
Why indeed.
Before someone comes in and states that those transactions aren’t audited because (from the link) “This restriction was imposed by Congress to assure the independence of the Federal Reserve from political influence.” Let me just state that this is complete nonsense. The Fed is currently very much subject to political influence. Keeping the people from knowing its actions does not remove political influence. Indeed, it does the exact opposite.
You want to know what is free of political influence? I kinda already gave it away in the question. The unhampered FREE market!
thank you
No problem. Would you post your article? Maybe we can help with the editing and stuff.
I appreciate help, but I would rather edit the article over email and not on a public forum. Is it safe to post email addresses on here?
Maybe Congressman Ron Paul can use some of his $74 million earmark money from the omnibus bill to by some credibility.
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Should add excellent post. Looking forward to seeing your next one!
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MY FRIENDS SAY IF THEY CANT ACCOUNT FOR THE SPENDING OF OUR MONEYS THEN THE BEST THING TO DO IS NOT GIVE THEM ANY MORE THAN ABSOLUTLY NECESSARY IF EVEN THAT MUCH. THE MORE THEY GET THE MORE CONTROL OVER THE WORLD AND US THEY CREATE , WEVE ACCIDENTLY CREATED A MONSTER AND NEED TO REGAIN CONTROL OF IT SOMEHOW AND ITS BECOME VERY UNRULLY TOWARDS ITS ORIGINAL CREATORS ,= THE PEOPLE.
where are you now how to contact you and help rallying or VOTE ON ISSUES PETITIONS and the like.
please start a way for us to help the cause.
rebirth our constituion for the peoples freedom and protection from a self appointed government.
GO RON PAUL!!!! BEST BILL EVER!!!
Hey Flag man… send me your email chain letter with congressmen and senator email addresses and I’ll send it out plus I’ll write one with some talk show radio and tv host email address and send it to you so you can forward it on tro your friends… I wonder how many people will send email mto their congressmen and senators and media people… If we ask them to and do it as an easy do chain letter??
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What is the staus of the bill as of March 10, 2009.
How much support does it have?
How can we help? Can you publish the email adresses of every congressman ? Will radio talk show hosts support it? Will television political commentators support it? Can we get the email adresses of these people emailed to us ? Can we get a copy of the bill with a link to RonPaul.com embedded in it, sent to us as a pdf doc attached to an email containing those email addresses we need? If so I’ll send a copy to eveyone in my address book… I’ll ask them to read the bill and send an emails requesting passage to their congressmen, senators, and their favoite media persons passing this bill would be a historic step towards freedom, liberty,and prosperity….. How many other of you will do the same thing??? hmmm…. maybe it could work!!
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Take it to the NEXT LEVEL…If you are REALLY SERIOUS about this…
Get on ALL of the News Channels TV and Radio and start making a BIG DEAL about it…To introduce a bill doesn’t mean DICK – Grow a SET and PUSH IT! Otherwise what differentitates you from GW…? OR step aside and let someone with BALLS do it.
Dr. Paul:
You have have had many good ideas to improve liberty and fiscal responsibility for the U.S., but never seem to get anything passed. How much of this is because of elite opposition and how much is due to your, supporters’ and The People’s failure to effectively organize and communicate to get it done?
First of all, I want to thank you for bringing light to so many topics that are left in the dark. An audit of the Federal Reserve seems only right. If they don’t have anything to hide, then why would they refuse an audit? The government has really lost its way, and with people such as you, is the only way the government will find its way back. It takes great citizens to have a great country, not an overbearing government. My representatives will be notified to support your new bill.
Dr. Ron Paul
I am only 16 years old and have only been following you for about a year but I believe you are the type of politician that we need more of. I don’t like Obama and I believe that we are in just as much trouble if not more under his administration. If you don’t run for President in 2012 then please let us know who you would support the most.
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i will pass this onto my friends and family but this stuff could get ugly if other countries used this against us, but the people need to know.
Dear Dr. Paul thank you for the battle against the crooked internally audited federal reserve. This country is due a bank war sir. Not since Jefferson and Jackson has a politician been so courageous in a struggle against those who control. I have written my House Rep. District and encouraged his office to vote yea on H.R. 1207, please continue the good fight, I now write my Senators and Congressmen because you proved to me liberty is not dead. It’s just hibernating. Thank you.
MR. Ron you are doing right. GO AHEAD. WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK
Dr. Paul, Keep the Flag held high, please. WE need men and women like yourself to keep our constitutional rights secure and our liberties as Americans in tact. TOGETHER WE STAND OR DEVIDED WE FALL. As for me, I will stand with you on any front to preserve the America we know and love. STAND STRONG, DR. PAUL, STAND STRONG, WE NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP.
God Bless You Dr. Paul!
Thank you for working for us Congressman Paul!
Go Ron!
Thank you for everything you do!
Sincerely
Debbie
Orlando, FL
If this bill doesn’t pass then I truly have lost all faith in congress to represent the peoples best interest anymore. We need more legislation like this. Dr. Paul is indeed one of the last few honest politicians left in washington.
Dr Paul
keep up the good work and don’t let us down
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Would something like Statistical Release H.4.1 not help? That would detail, from a high level, ‘Factors Affecting the Fed Balance Sheet’:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/H41/20090115/default.htm
If that is too many numbers, how about a more layman’s terms approach to the various components within H.4.1?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst.htm
No offense, but the government hasn’t exactly been doing a bang-up job in auditing itself, its agencies, or what *used to be* (and are now all of our) government sponsored entities up to this point. Please note this is not pointed at any party or congress, it’s just the way it is.
Beyond that, im not sure if most of the ‘auditors’ know what the intention behind a reverse repurchase agreement is (or how to read a balance sheet), nonetheless audit the efficacy of a reverse repurchase agreement with another central bank to provide currency liquidity.
Anyway, check out the website, you can always email them if you have questions. Feel free to educate yourself.
It is time the federal reserve is better understood by all taxpayers. It seems that this middle entity has all the benefits and for reasons that might become more clear later with an audit, the WH seems to pick present, past members to handle all our money concerns. Yes, in an era of transparency let’s support this bill. Thank you Ron Paul
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How many trillions of dollars have we paid this private company over the years do do our governments job. It is my understanding that we could buy back the federal reserve for the paltry sum of $450,000,000 and completely eleminate this waste of tax payers dollars.
At least Ron and a few select others are attempting to have this audit.
Look up your congressman and urge them to support this bill. Here is a template I created you can use so it is easy and a no-brainer. Feel free to modify it:
Dear (Congressman)
I urge you to cosponsor the bill proposed by representative Ron Paul of Texas, H.R. 1207. The actions of the Federal Reserve have significant effects upon this whole nation, which includes the citizens of our state, and sadly the Federal Reserve has power to in fact hurt the economy of this nation if it goes unchecked. There needs to be more oversight and regulation on what the Federal Reserve can and should do. Unfortunately as a primarily private entity the Federal Reserve is causing destruction, willful destruction, and it is unfair and wrong for us, you and me included, to have to suffer and pay the consequences of a private entity like this. If anything, the Federal Reserve should be more regulated, including being audited, and if that is not enough, the Federal Reserve should be dissolved and the power to control the U.S. currency be put into the hands of the government, not some private entity.
For these reasons, and many more exist, which I urge you to discover, please support bill H.R. 1207. Thank you.
Sincerely,
(Your Name)
“and the power to control the U.S. currency be put into the hands of the government”
Do you believe the government can do a better job than a private entity that has a vested interest in our economic vitality? Do you truly believe that to be a feasible solution?
What portion of government is as educated, structured in a democratic fashion, and behaves in an largely (noone is completely) apolitical fashion?
If you haven’t noticed all the other central banks are now following our lead and decreasing interest rates… Maybe they are all wrong?
His name is Ron Paul
No offense, but i thank the parrot in the background for the non-sequitur.
Really, so what entity or future entity of government would you entrust with the “power to control the U.S. currency”?
That would be Congress. And there wouldn’t be much for them to do if the money supply was fixed to gold and silver.
It’s amazing that so few people know about JFK’s issue of United States Notes BACKED BY SILVER! After his assassination, these notes (the small percentage that went into circulation) were hastily called in. Silver backed currency would have pushed out of
the market the Federal Reserve Notes backed by NOTHING of ANY value — in other words, thin air. IS THAT MOTIVE or is that MOTIVE? The BIG Monied cartel is ruthless!
The bill requires one audit. Shouldn’t the Fed be audited on a regular basis?
Ron Paul is 100% correct on this, and has my vote locked up should he run in 2012.
For anyone looking for the history of the Fed, check out The Creature from Jekyll Island, which has its history from the initial conception documented. I can’t recommend it highly enough for anyone remotely curious about how this bankers’ cartel got to where it is today.
Is this true Paul?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6286883.html
I stumble upon that too, but a little skeptical. It’d would be hypocrisy, but the bill is passed, who wouldn’t want a part of the pie? He’d denied it like Jindal? Plus, I’m sure the people of his district would want him to receive it. The bill was passed with his support or not, so I don’t think this is an issue as big as auditing the FED! Though, it’s pretty hypocrite if it is true?
I think Dr. Paul has explained this before, and he said something like this: he will vote against big spending bills all day long, but once they get passed, he will try to get the most money for his district as possible. This 1. provides services for the people in his community, and 2. keeps the money out of the hands of the federal government. If money is earmarked, the Treasury Secretary doesn’t get to “lose” several hundred billion dollars.
Genius! Why didn’t he think of this 10 years ago? I’m calling my representative right now and my senators as wells! You know what, why don’t we rally up this bill so that people can know about this?
Ok, so go check out this page if you have not yet. It is so crazy how true all the videos are.
http://www.youtube.com/user/singletreefilms
Wow!!! Check tis out.
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Greetings Mr Paul,
I thank you for having nerve to stand up to this lucifarian bunch of dry bones. Someone needs to commit(lunny bin) who ever thinks that you can ever survive in life by someone who sells you a counterfit $100 bill for $110 dollars LOL. FED KNOWS WE ARE SO DUMBED DOWN AND EXPLOITS OUR WEAKNESSES AS A COUNTRY THAT ONLY HAS TO PAY OFF JUST UNDER 500 MEMBERS TO CONTROL JUST 300+MILLION PEOPLE. i tell all my friends this … IF YOU DONT LIKE PAYING TAXES JUST DONT USE THE FED ISSUDE MONEY just that simple. Need some ideas for better currency? (BARTER GOODS FOR SERVICES, SERVICES FOR GOODS, SERVICES FOR SERVICES,AND LASTLY GOODS FOR GOODS). This would not only create a domestic economy wich we desprately need. but look at it this way if somone traded a crapy roof job that leaked for say enough food for 3 weeks then next time someone needed a roof and some one wanted a roof that you knew you wouldnt recomed them so starvation would drive them to excell in what they do, as a professional. also it would keep nabors closer in order to network them selves and thus make most people better by creating a bond between people that in the cercumstances cantot and would not occur. Now you may ask your selves how do you save in this kind of economy? your relationship between people who give and recive to each other would prove to be much more vauleable that anything in this world. Just ask your selves this question how much dose it cost you to make a baby? a life that will love you back for as long as it lives. So shall your nabor view you as the same remember we all have different strengths and weaknesses the divesity would run the economy. Besides ask your selves this last question when you die why cant you take money to heaven? …. because its a discusting thing to him. that is why. hope the few that make it past the great tribulation see all we need is good people who truely care for our fellow man not for greed. the root of the cause why we are in the boat we are in. amen
Are you kidding? No one who isn’t looking is ever going to see this. Nobody cares anymore… or at least not enough of us.
Now excuse me while I go bury some more jewelery and gold coins in the yard.
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WE Americans who still hold our Constitution dear to us, support you 100%! Even if this bill does not make it thru Congress, at least we will know where we as Americans stand with our government. Either way, you will have served us well. Thank you and God Bless you Dr. Paul!
Dr. Paul, this is my second posting to your website, and it’s apparent that the liberalists have managed to blind-side the American people, and make a mockery of our belovd Constitution. Socialism, Marxism, Fascism or whatever you wish to name it has no place in America. However, the criminals, bleeding hearts, and people looking for handouts have changed our country to the point of making ordinary American citizens nothing more than a manpower pool and unlimited bank account. Have we not called that slavery forever? Send me to the Roman games so I can win my FREEDOM! WE NEED YOU IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!
God Bless You, Dr. Paul!
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Hey Mr. Paul,
Please don’t run for President. While you would be the obvious best candidate, you will surely be assassinated, as you would represent the biggest threat to the Federal Reserve that has yet existed. Even JFK was assassinated, and all he did was introduce notes issued by the treasury that were backed by silver. Pretty sneaky, but he still got assassinated. If you become president, I am afraid we will lose an important leader very quickly to assassination, when you can do so much relatively under the radar in congress, inspiring people! If you run for pres though, I will definitely vote for you.
Bravo to ron paul, the government will continue to lie, steal, and strip us of our rights and way of life untill we finally stand up as one nation under god, I am ready, are you?
Hello Dr.Paul,
So nice and pleasing to see there are still beurocrats like you who are out there to preserve the constitutional rights of all the Americans. I bought your book “The Revolution A Manifesto”, thank you for educating the people on the true constitutional spirit. Hope more people folllow your concerns. Please come back in year 2012.
Zain
I am constantly disappointed as to the ignorance and general attitude of the american people
What exactly do you mean by that Tamara?
Either,
A) You are a supporter of the Constitution and what it stands for and it really does disappoint you to see this great country stand on the shaky ground that it is on now. If this is the case, you should really put more into your post. Or….
B) You are not a supporter of the Constitution and really shouldn’t be posting on this site. If you do want to continue to post, at least come with something better than you can’t stand the attitudes of the American people because I am an American and although you probably don’t like my attitude, I have a feeling most people on this board like mine more than yours.
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Thank you Dr. Paul for your Courage and your steadfast commitment to protecting the Constitution. You are our hero and we salute you!!!! Please run for President 2012, your country needs you!
Dr. Paul, Thank you for your bravery and commitment to the United States. The Federal Reverse is a sham and deserves to be abolished like the the similar institutions before it. I am with you 100%!
The Banksters are running our Presidents and fully control Obama. Nothing has changed nor will it as long as they pull the puppetstrings of the President along with the CFR.
It’s truly time for change, but as anyone can clearly see by now, there has been no change in America once again unless, of course you consider skin color.
Way to go Mr. Paul. I hope this works. Of course the best policy would be to desolve the Federal Reserve Bank all together; and even though the President has the power to do so, I doubt he has the nerve.
If congress does not support this bill,then Americans will know that their entire political process is corrupted beyond redemption.
Do not accept half baked audits that have parameters selected by the Fed.The entire process should be open and thorough.It won’t happen easily and the more resistance you encounter,the smellier will be the carcass of corruption and deception.
Pay attention Congress, this is what a stateman does. He represents his state and looks after the citizens that sent him to Washington. He does not act as a representative of his party first.
Well said my friend…Well said!
I am not surprised that this Bill haven’t hit the front pages of the national news. Simply too controversial…
Sad, cause this bill would be an eye-opener for the American people.
Thankyou thankyou thankyou Ron Paul! Please run in 2012… despite the recent poll that placed you 3rd I think that the GOP is in such shambles right now and is looking for your kind of leadership to appeal to the youth of america and help rebuild a truly Constitutional Republican Party.
We The People! are behind you all the way!!! Ron Paul
Hope this makes it to the floor. Would LOVE to see who among Congress has the guts to support this bill. Sadly, I know it will get “tied up” in committee (would also love to know who ends up being responsible for that, as well).
Dr. Paul, I’m a former middle class American who supports you 100%, and hope, along with other Americans, that you will see success in your efforts to return America to Americans. I’m a former middle class American because of the IRS extortion, and racketeering practices they have made legal for their own benefit. I now must try to find work to support my wife, and home expenses. God speed, and good luck to you, sir.
Jerry P. Claunch
This is not Jerry Claunch from Phoenix that went to J.B.Sutton school is it? if so e mail me I went to school with you and Sharon.
Anyway my response was, “THIS IS THE BIG ONE ELIZABETH”, Henry Gonzales has been trying for years to no avail, however if we could get this, at least started, we may be able to save this country before it is too late ! If you have a mind,go and read “Secrets of the Federal Reserve” (online), by Eustace Mullins, redone, the original writer was imprisoned in an insane asylum for 13 1/2 years and had all his writings burned etc.. You need to read the whole thing. If this can get done it will remove almost all the problems in this country. This is the writing that Jeckyl island and all the rest were taken from. MUST READ! Ezra Pound, who found all the dirt and documentation was the original…. They say conspiracy theory, but It’s not a “theory” when it’s happening, right before your very eyes,is it?
Hello, from Las Cruces, NM. I’m sorry, but I’m not the Jerry Claunch from Phoenix, AZ you mention in your post. Too bad, because my entire family thinks I’m a kook for supporting Ron Paul. Maybe the other Jerry has more support. Also, how do I access the online book “Secrets of the Federal Reserve”? I’m very in terested in how we’ve been duped for all these years.
Ciao,
Claunchie
Well,thanks for answering, I went to school with some good people with the same name,I guess. Just google or whatever search engine you want, “secrets of the Federal reserve”, it’s about 250 pages, you can read it online or print it or whatever, if you take the time to read it all, you will know exactly what is going on, and it will make perfect sense. Thanks for responding, I am living in Heber,AZ. on the Mogollon Rim in the white mountains. Bill Knight. PS you’re no kook, I had to change my registration from independent to republican to vote for Paul in the primaries, but I think he’s one of the few that, “gets it”… later.