Show: D.L. Hughley Show
Channel: CNN
Date: 3/7/2009
Transcript:
D.L. Hugley: I want him to keep his job, but since then Micheal Steele has apologized, which I hate. I think if you say something you mean you should just stand by it. What he said was, “I respect Rush Limbaugh, he is a national conservative leader, and in no way do I want to diminish his voice.”
I don’t understand. Why is name Steele? We should call him Aluminum, damn. He folded that fast. I don’t understand, so does Rush Limbaugh run the GOP? It seems like it to me.
Here now, to talk about the Grand Old Party is Texas Congressman Ron Paul. How you doing, Ron?
You see? It’s amazing. You are probably the favorite Republican of everybody that I know, man. You talk sensibly, you’re very reasonable. You’re very pragmatic in your approach. Can I ask you an honest question? Is Rush Limbaugh the Republican Party leader?
Ron Paul: Philosophically he has a lot to do with it, but technically no, he is not the leader. He is not the elected leader. But philosophically he is filling a void. I think there is a void in the Republican Party and somebody is filling it, but there are philosophic influences, and that’s what Rush Limbaugh does.
D.L. Hugley: Well, let me ask you probably a more direct question. Why do so many people insist on kissing his ass like that? Why he is so… you know, Mark Sanford, the governor of South Carolina apologized, Congressman Phil Gangly apologized, now you have the chairman of the RNC apologizing to him. I don’t think they said anything to him that was unreasonable. Why would they insist on…
Ron Paul: I have no idea. They’d probably would have had to have asked that as well. I can’t quite figure out all this excitement about this event.
D.L. Hugley: Me neither.
Ron Paul: Because, you know, in a way I just wonder about the Liberals and the Democrats wanting to help Rush Limbaugh so much. I mean, he is making a lot more money. But you know what I suspect is going on? And this has nothing to do with a conspiracy. But I think what they want to happen is for Rush Limbaugh to make a whole lot of money and then they are going to tax him and limit his income to about 250,000 dollars a year, and they’re going to put a tax on all the entertainers and we’re going to bailout everybody in the country and take care of all the poor people.
D.L. Hugley: Ay man, the work conspiracy is going to be used, let the black man do it, okay? I want to do it. But Rush Limbaugh does represent a pretty large segment of the Republican Party.
Ron Paul: I don’t think anybody knows the exact number, but I think I saw a poll that said maybe 11%, but they’re energetic and they know about it. But he doesn’t represent, you know, a lot of people involved with social values. He certainly doesn’t represent me.
D.L. Hugley: Now, Rush did say that he wanted President Obama to fail. Do you feel the same way?
Ron Paul: No, no. Not really. And I didn’t hear his exact words, but you know, if a person’s goal is to help poor people and take care and improve the world and bring peace, you want them to be successful. But if they want to socialize the country and nationalize everything… then no, you don’t want them to be this successful there.
But you can still support their goals and I hope they do, but I don’t want any authoritarian to be successful. I don’t want people to be successful in their foreign policy even if we go off to another war like Obama is doing right now in Afghanistan. You know, if you say, “Oh great, let’s have great success over there”, then he can go on to take on Pakistan.
D.L. Hugley: Thank you, Ron. We’re going to be right back. Next, we have more with Ron Paul. We’ll be right back.
We are back with Republican Congressman Ron Paul. Ron, you ran for president. When you dropped out you did not back John McCain. Obviously, you have some issues with some members of your party, right?
Ron Paul: Right, yea, when they don’t live up to their promises, you know. If they call themselves fiscal conservatives, and then they double the size of the budget and the deficit, then I can’t with a clear conscience support them.
D.L. Hugley: So you were against George Bush’s big spending too?
Ron Paul: Oh, absolutely. And certainly I was against his foreign policy and his violation of personal civil liberties. The privacy that he was invading and the secrecy of government… I didn’t like any of that. I am sort of an old-fashioned conservative that believes in the constitution.
D.L. Hugley: Now you also voted against President Obama’s stimulus package. Obviously you had reservations about that. Why was that?
Ron Paul: Well, I don’t think it’s going to do any good. Most of that money so far hasn’t helped the little guy. It’s going to Wall Street. If they would have taken all that money and just sent checks out, we would have been better off. I would like to get the money in the hands of the people. I don’t trust the government, I don’t trust the politicians and the bureaucrats because they bailout their buddies. What we want is to get more money in the hands of the people. That’s why if we just suspend the income tax everybody would get a pay-raise immediately. And there are still a few people that are employed, so this would be a big boost to the economy and the people make the decisions, rather than bailing out corporate giants and banks and then they take their money and they get billions of dollars worth of bonuses. It’s absolutely out of control.
D.L. Hugley: But Ron, okay, I too was against the bailout. But some aspects of the stimulus package I see, like as far as extending unemployment benefits to people, making those a little longer and things like that and other attributes of the stimulus package. I agree with some of those. But the bailout, I have to say, I was totally against that. I don’t think we should have bailed out GM. I could see how it was necessary to bail out some of the other banks but, honestly, what do we do then?
Ron Paul: You have to understand how we got into this mess. We got into this mess because….
D.L. Hugley: … because we spent like there was no tomorrow. We all spent like there was no tomorrow.
Ron Paul: Right. You know, we elected the Republicans to back off from big government and they doubled the size of everything, and ran up the deficit. So, we spent too much, we borrowed too much, and then we started putting pressure on the Fed, and the Fed acts on their own and they started inflating, i.e. creating credit out of thin air. They are the ones who literally caused the boom, and they literally bring about the bust.
You know, after the depression ended after World War II the spending went down two thirds and taxes went down one third and that’s when the depression finally ended in the late 1940s.
D.L. Hugley: Wow! You know, the amazing thing is that you almost… you don’t seem like a Republican to me that I have ever heard. You seem so reasonable. No, honestly. You really do. You seem to make sense, which I don’t attribute to very many politicians.
But the government does have to do something. I think we are very panicked. I think the electorate is clearly nervous. The government has to do something to lay their fears to rest, or we will never get on track, right?
Ron Paul: Yea, that is true. And we could if we had some sensible people here. And even though I am a strict constitutionalist, I don’t believe in most of these programs, I still have an interim set of priorities. I would cut 400, 500 billion dollars from oversees. I don’t think it makes any sense to blow up bridges in Iraq and then pay to rebuild them to no-bid contracts where the corporations never rebuild. I say spend all that money back here at home. We could save enough money by just changing our foreign policy, cutting down on our deficit and still take care of the people that we have taught to be so dependent. We spend over a trillion dollars a year maintaining an American empire, but nobody wants to give up on the empire, not even this new administration. They’re pursuing the Bush policies in the Middle East and they are not cutting back.
Yesterday I gave a speech on the house floor, and I literally bet that the troops will not be out of Iraq in 2011 because we’re going to have a big embassy, and we’re going to have 56 military bases, and believe me, that is very offensive to the people of Iraq.
D.L. Hugley: Ron, you are too human to be a Republican. Now, I was on Bill Maher about a year and a half ago or so, and you came on by satellite, and you were explaining about the Civil War and how it didn’t need to be fought. And I was at first like, ‘Is he saying that it didn’t need to be fought?’ But when you explained it to me, I thought it was one of the most pragmatic, reasonable things I have ever heard a politician say.
Ron Paul: Well, you know the other nations in the West that had slavery all got rid of slavery without a civil war. The motivation behind the Civil War had more to do than just the slavery issue. So we lost 600,000 Americans and there is lot of residual, probably some left over today. There is still residual. So you could have, with a small fraction of the money and no deaths, just bought the slaves, you know, and freed the slaves. That’s what Britain and some other nations did and that just makes a lot more sense than fighting a war and killing each other. I know I don’t like this war as a solution to our problems.
D.L. Hugley: I’ll tell you what, you make way too much sense. You can’t be a Republican. I’ll say it again. Are you going to run again in 2012?
Ron Paul: Well, I might be running from somebody or running for Congress… or who knows what.
D.L. Hugley: Thank you, Congressman Ron Paul, it was a pleasure man, a real pleasure. Wow! Well, next we will find out if Jesus was a Republican.
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“Too human to be a republican” I loved that part! Ron Paul speaks total and complete wisdom and has never flip-flopped! If we were all fortunate enough to have the Congress and Senate filled with people like Ron Paul, this Great Nation would be back on track!
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“complete wisdom and has never flip-flopped!”
Really? Cite your source please.
As a free-market disciple, google Ron Paul’s seminal and incorrect ‘Gold Peace and Prosperity’. You are right, when Ron Paul asks Bernanke some timeframe for when he might be wrong, Ron Paul knows what it is like to be wrong:
“the 1980;s will likely be a decade of social unrest”
WOW could he have been more wrong THREE DECADDES AGO? lol.
That is totally the fossil I want leading my government.
You know, maybe Jeb Paul, I mean Rand Paul should run for GOVT!!!
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So true! To my way of thinking, Ron Paul is the only Congressman sitting in office on Capitol Hill who cares more for this country than glory, a fat pension, a big paycheck. When will people start listening to him and really take into account what he is trying to tell them?
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Perhaps you guys missed the part where he said England and other countries eliminated slavery by buying the slaves and freeing them. So it’s not a ridiculous notion to propose. The precedent was set already. As to the “not buying homes, but buying blacks…” nonsense, uhh, apples and oranges, dude. The gvmt would have been within their jurisdiction to do so because it was a civil rights issue they were rectifying. People were being forcibly subjugated, being denied the most basic of human rights (basic human rights are the only human rights: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness), and therefore the gvmt had a right to pay to in order to see to the end of such. They do not in the case of buying homes. Home ownership is not a human right, and therefore the gvmt has no right to guarentee it with my money.
Your last sentence is offensive, plain and simple. If you allow, or reinstitute a stolen right to personal freedom, as in the case of slaves, people will flourish on their own, and once freed would not need to be bathed and fed for any great length of time, and especially “provided with a home”. You libs in your patented patronisation think that anyone who isn’t given stuff won’t be able to get it for themselves. “If the gvmt doesn’t give it, it can’t be had”. It is an offensive concept from it’s root. People in general naturally make things better for themselves if left alone and guarenteed fundamental rights as stated. It’s, in fact, racist by definition to think the slaves, if they were freed, wouldn’t have been able to feed or bathe themselves or put a roof over their own heads, that once “Ron Paul” bought and freed them, he would have to take care of them for the rest of their lives. You lefties hope that’s true so you can guarentee yourself a voting block by keeping people reliant on your gvmt’s benificence. Cause the poor can never learn to take care of themselves, right?
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Sean is just dumb, plain and simple. He doesn’t seem to understand the basics concepts we all agree on. He runs his mouth without realizing what comes out. I can’t even count how many times he has provided false information, contradicts himself, showing his lack of understanding what Ron Paul talks about, and just flat out lies.
This guy is rat, and would not surprise me if he gets paid to do this.
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you know we’re just quite different. You look for the bad in people or things, and i look for the good.. Maybe because i have a better life and i don’t worry about the bad. Maybe because i understand better than you about why and how everything works.. Either way, i’ll always be exploring the great things in life while you mope and complain and wish you had everything your way.
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what makes you think that the people who the government bought the slaves from wouldn’t go get more slaves????? COMMON SENSE YO.. you obviously didn’t think that one through.. I bet you didn’t know that the constitution prohibited the federal government to abolish slavery in states that it already exsisted… THere’s your constitutional civil rights.. Licoln tied passing a law that the people rejected to. It wasn’t about money, it was about cheap labor that the government couldn’t afford to replace… idiots
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thomas jefferson had slaves and he helped write the constitution
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thomas jefferson had slaves and he helped write the constitution.. you know the english did pay off slave traders, but they couldn’t afford to compensate the black people. THats probably why there are more succesful black people in america than in england.
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“what makes you think that the people who the government bought the slaves from wouldn’t go get more slaves”
Because it would have been against the law.
Try thinking more about what you are saying before you post. You’re sounding like an arrogant, uneducated, know-it-all.
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they outlawed it in england and people still brought slaves dumb ass. what do you know?
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I guess I’m just a stupid person. All hail you.
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It might not be okay to spread freedom and democracy around the world, but it is okay to fight to obtain freedom in our own country. If ron paul wants to create a slave market, than he doesn’t understand the sacrafice of war.
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Its funny how ron paul is against using the government to buy their way out of trouble, but hear he goes on saying that the government should of boughten their way out of the civil war.. The government can’t buy homes, but should buy blacks! I guess ron paul could have fed and bathed them also, and provided them with a home..
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Sean: Don’t you think it is time to stop talking about slaves and all the things that happened 150 years ago? It is time to move into the 21st century and stop dwelling on things that our current population had no hand in and nothing to do with. We need to forget all the shame and past mistakes and start looking for ways to handle the problems facing us in the “real world today”. What is more important to you? Slaves and slave masters 150 years ago or people out on the street, without jobs, children going hungry and living in cars because their parents are being kicked out of homes they have worked for but are now losing because of this economy, veterans returning from a stupid war with no jobs, college graduates who are having to work as janitors, illegal immigrants overruning our country and disobeying our laws and expecting and demanding things they have no right to demand? The past needs to be forgotten and the more serious problems present and future looms before us. Stop crying about slavery — it was done, it was horrible and any human being with any morals or sense knows what happened was wrong. Time to stop being a victim and start being a citizen and striving to make a better America for you, your children and grandchildren.
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HAHA!!! i wasn’t crying about slavery, i was talking about what ron paul had to say. Its not like i brought it up.. I couldn’t give a two flying fuk
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What the hell are you talking about?
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That was a great appearance on the ‘D.L. Hughley Show’ by Dr. Paul- what else can we do to get him on the airwaves of ‘liberal’ media every night?? Yes, we were too late two years ago (and even 30 years ago) but it can’t be too late now- how do we keep this momentum rolling and start waking up every blue, red, purple American out there to basic common sense?! And is there anyone else out there with this much intelligence and pose and forthrightness, whose agenda is not for personal glory?
Enough with the airheads (liberal and conservative alike) and let’s bring back some good ol’ fashioned respect and dignity to this country (heck, I’m only 30)- it’s now or never people!
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if the north had just paid for all the slaves, than they would have been replaced with new ones… its the principle of the matter.
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why would anyone want Obama fail,HE IS ARE PRESIDENT,and if obama
fails as our leader than we have him as a country,because when one of us screws up then what hope do we have to give our grandchildren and so on
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I do not believe anyone in this country wants to see Obama fail. I sure do not, I want only the best for America. Obama is our President and I accept that. The point is this young man is way in over his head; being young he has no experience and is dealing with the extreme and horrific multitude of problems facing this nation. I want him to succeed; but he needs more than just his sweet personality and God given ability to deliver intelligent and wonderful speeches. Mr. Obama needs help; maybe he should consider turning to Congressman Ron Paul for some assistance. Knowing Dr. Paul, he would be only too willing to give some advice and help any way he can. The big problem is, no one is willing to listen to him.
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We need someone who remembers the const.
War is a bitch. Don’t try me…
I want (real) peace.
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A Ron Paul GRAND SLAM!
The ‘MARCH’ is on…
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If Ron Paul had been given even half a chance by the liberal mainstream media vultures two years ago; had been listened to and allowed to get his viewpoint across to America we just might not now be in this horrible financial/bankrupt situation facing this nation and millions of Americans today. He made sense then and he makes sense today, he is right on most everything he says. Media and America refused to listen because he was “just another old man with old ideas”. Sometimes old ideas make much more sense than the arrogant young ideas expressed by the younger generation who have not experienced much in life but think they have all the answers. Ron Paul loves this country and is not out for personal glorification; he wants to help this country and still no one listens to his important message.
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The financial break down happened with or without ron paul. It was suppose to happened after 9/11 but the gov delay it. Ron Paul can help to ease the pain we going through right now by downsizing the gov and that’s all a honest person can do.
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