30 responses to “Ron Paul: We don’t need 5130 for a revolution”

  1. edward

    I AM TRYING TO FIND ANYONE IN THE ST.LOUIS AREA INVOLVED IN THE RON PAUL CAMPAIGN! I WANT TO GET INVOLVED!

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  2. Ann Raabe

    Congressional spending was never intended by the Constitution to be “carte blanche” for every one who needs money. The Constitution allowed for taxes to be laid by the states in order to raise the money needed for the Federal Government to operate. For instance, if we needed to bail out big auto, big oil, big banking, then Congress would pass a bill, appropriating the money. Then each state would receive a bill, according to enumeration, and the state would have to tax in order to raise the money. This kept things a little more controllable. For instance, if my Congressman and Senator pass a bill, they would have to understand that their state would get this bill, directly, and the taxes would be raised to the people. Then our Congressmen would think twice about running up the credit card bill, just like your wife would if she knew that you would get the bill for her spending spree and eventually there would be consequences. I don’t think Congress has a full grasp of this concept, even though the Constitution is widely available for reading. Let us all keep turning back to the Constitution for our strength and enforce it for the people and by the people.

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  3. EDWARD NUTTALL

    -A CAREER CONGRESS BUYS VOTES BY GIVING AWAY TAX DOLLARS TO CHARITY “ENTITLEMENTS” AND SPECIAL INTERESTS. WE MUST MANDATE THAT THE CONGRESS MAY ONLY SPEND MONEY ON GOODS AND SERVICES TO BE RECEIVED. CHARITABLE AND SPECIAL INTEREST GIVING SHOULD BE SOLELY OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND VOLUNTARY.

    WE NEED TO REFORM THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO MAKE LASTING IMPROVEMENTS! THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PRIMARY ALLEGIANCE OF CAREER POLITIANS IS NOT TO THE CITIZENS, BUT IS TO THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS. ELECTED OFFICE SHOULD NOT BE FOR A LIFE-TIME. STRICT CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

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  4. Stewart

    On NPR.org, Ron Paul is winning the polling against ALL Republican contenders for the White House!
    Check it out, and vote for our man!

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  5. Dfens

    “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    I’m telling you there’s another option. A constitutional option. The choices are not empire or weakness. We also have the choice of getting more bang for the buck. That’s what I’m advocating. Reduce defense spending. It should be reduced. We are not in a Cold War and we should not be in the hot wars we are in, but there’s more to it than that. We have to be able to defend ourselves. It will take more than just a gun in every home to do that. We also need aircraft, ships, and missiles. Let’s fix the system by which we buy those things. I’m telling you how to do it.

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  6. Dave Fernandez

    I have a friend who argues the reason why we “police the world” is because with great power comes great responsibility. I told him that we’re only as big as we are because we borrow so much money and it never was intended for America to be an all powerful empire. If it was then our founders wasted their time and died for nothing to free us from Britan. The America that we have today is not what our founding fathers wanted for us. They knew America best because they invented the construct of Amercia, a model of government with limited authority, run by the people, that protects our rights to persue happiness, not guarentee our security if we passivly submit.

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  7. Dfens

    You make an excellent point. We should have learned from previous wars that our economy is our best weapon. Instead we let the “free traitors” sell us out piece by piece while we all slept. The bottom line is that gold works as a currency as long as there is peace. When it all goes to hell the only legitimate currency is weapons.

    We can’t just throw our military under the bus and hope peace prevails. We also can’t afford to continue the current corporate welfare scheme that is the industrial defense complex. We need a legitimate 3rd option. I’ve been in the industry for a quarter century now, and I’m telling you that things were not always this messed up. We used to do business with the government in a way that made sense. Let’s go back to that business model and keep our country safe for our businesses to thrive.

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  8. Ross

    Dfens,China is presently buying Australia.Do they have to bother invading us?Our Govt is selling us down the tube because they are getting into so much debt.We are borrowing from China and selling them our resource companies.We are getting into more debt and selling off income earning assets to create pretend consumption for pretend jobs.

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  9. Dfens

    The range of the modified Dong Feng 21 missile is significant in that it covers the areas that are likely hot zones for future confrontations between U.S. and Chinese surface forces.

    The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel, providing the Chinese the capability of destroying a U.S. supercarrier in one strike.

    Because the missile employs a complex guidance system, low radar signature and a maneuverability that makes its flight path unpredictable, the odds that it can evade tracking systems to reach its target are increased. It is estimated that the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes.

    Supporting the missile is a network of satellites, radar and unmanned aerial vehicles that can locate U.S. ships and then guide the weapon, enabling it to hit moving targets.

    While the ASBM has been a topic of discussion within national defense circles for quite some time, the fact that information is now coming from Chinese sources indicates that the weapon system is operational. The Chinese rarely mention weapons projects unless they are well beyond the test stages.

    If operational as is believed, the system marks the first time a ballistic missile has been successfully developed to attack vessels at sea. Ships currently have no defense against a ballistic missile attack. – US Naval Institute

    If we continue to spend at current Cold War levels on defense plus add to that the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan we go broke. If, on the other hand, we continue to get less and less for our defense dollar we are going to hand the world over to the Chinese. We will soon face a world in which China will take over Taiwan without firing a shot. Will we similarly give up Australia?

    We need our government to do certain things for us. Providing for the common defense is one of them. How much longer are we going to keep our heads in the sand pretending everything is ok?

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  10. Ann Raabe

    The Law of Nations has a lot to say about the seizure of gold and property. Under the chapter entitled Money and Exchange.
    “Since the imprint put upon money is to be the guarantee of the standard of its weight and fineness, it is clear from the start that everyone can not be allowed indiscriminately to coin it. Grounds would become so common that public confidence in the value of money would soon be lost and the usefulness of money would be at an end. Money is coined by the authority and in the name of the State or of the Prince who is surety for it. He should therefore be careful to coin a sufficient quantity of it for the needs of the country and should see that it be good money, that is, that its intrinsic value be proportionate to its extrinsic or face value.
    It is true that under urgent necessity the State would have the right to order its citizens to take money at a price higher than its real value. But as foreigners will not take it at that price, the Nation gains nothing by this expedient; the evil is glossed over for a time, but not removed. This excess of value arbitrarily added to money constitutes a real debt on the part of the sovereign to the individual citizens, and if perfect justice is to be done, all such money, when the crisis is past, should be bought back at the expense of the State and paid for in other specie of standard value; otherwise this kind of tax, imposed in a time of necessity, would unjustly fall upon those only who received the depreciated coin. Besides, experience has shown that expedients of this kind are hurtful to commerce, inasmuch as they destroy the confidence of foreigners and of citizens, raise proportionately the price of goods, and by inducing the people to lock up or send abroad the older good specie, suspend the circulation of money. Hence it is the duty of every Nation and of every sovereign to hold back, as far as possible, from so dangerous a policy, and to have recourse rather to taxes and to extraordinary contributions for the relief of pressing needs of the State.
    Since the State is the guarantor of the soundness of the money in circulation, it belongs to the public authority alone to coin it. Those who counterfeit it violate the rights of the sovereign, whether they make it after the same standard of value or not. They are called counterfeiters, and the crime they commit is reasonably regarded as a serious one; for if they use alloy in their coin they rob both the public and the prince, and if they make good coin they usurp the right of the sovereign. They are not apt to make good coin unless there be a profit from coining it, in which case they rob the State of a gain which belongs to it.
    From the principles we have just laid down it is easy to draw the conclusion that if one Nation counterfeits the money of another, or if it permits counterfeiters to do so, and protects them, it does a wrong to that Nation. But ordinarily criminals of this class find refuge nowhere, all princes being equally interested in exterminating them.
    There is another custom of more recent date and of no less advantage to commerce than the use of money. It consists in exchange, or the business of banking, by means of which a merchant can remit from one end of the world to another immense sums of money almost without expense and, if he wishes, without risk. For the same reasons that sovereigns ought to protect commerce, they are obliged to maintain this custom by good laws which shall secure the interests of all merchants whether foreigners or citizens. In general, it is equally the interest and the duty of every Nation to establish wise and just commercial laws.

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  11. Stewart

    Ron Paul should expect some organized resistance to take shape soon. Before, he was someone that was just ignored. The more it becomes clear he has significant and growing support, the more we can expect his statements to be taken out of context and aired on “news” channels.
    He/we should EXPECT that.

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  12. Ross

    My only criticism is that the camera work did not do Ron’s speech justice.It has got to be professional since the general population are more influenced by image than substance.It is no good just appealing to those who have the ability to think.They don’t make up the majority of the pop.

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  13. Michael

    Hi Ron,
    Im a liberal and a very big fan of yours.
    Good luck with the Fed Act.

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  14. Jan

    http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

    The Truth about the Alaskan oil find in 1970′s…..You’ll be shocked that what has gone on with OIL……capping,Opec and the economic crisis……..who controls the stock market prices, the gasoline prices..
    Check it out…Governor Paling wants to build a natural gas pipeline down to the lower 48, lets encourage her do it.

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  15. ron

    y dont u go on the oriely factor, an do interview with bill an say more about wat u think we as people need to do to stop this madness of giving out money to all the super rich people in this country and start lockin up those same criminals who steelin the taxpayers money an get away with it and also we need jobs in america why not stop nafta, ????? it cripples our workers forever, an taken aways our dignity

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  16. Douglas Bell

    This guy is the most impressive leader in the U.S.A. He doesn’t represent the special interest groups so they label him as a fringe politician to discredit him. Deep down, everyone knows this guy is right about everything, but no one wants to surrender their power. We might need to clone this guy into a legion of constitutional pragmatists. This guy has restored my faith in the country for what is was orginally intended to be: limited government and civil liberties. Thank you Ron Paul for all of your tireless efforts to make the world a better place. Sainthood awaits you.

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  17. Gary B

    Excellent speech…as always. Revolution it is! By the way, WHO was the cameraman for this video? You need to take some lessons! I wanted to show everybody this video, but now I can’t because it is so unprofessional. I got dizzy watching it! Does anybody else have a better video?

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  18. Old Ben Franklin

    The voice of truth and integrity speaks again. Ron Paul 2012!

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  19. Lender, Spender, Whatever | Hear ItFrom.Us

    [...] weekend Ron Paul spoke at the Campaign for Liberty conference in St. Louis. Click over to watch the videos of his speech…I haven’t had a chance to see them all yet. But I did [...]

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  20. Raven

    It still doesn’t make any sense. We could use gold instead of paper – it’s still completely worthless except for the value we give it (and of course the things it can be used to make, but then anything used in that way wouldn’t be available as a currency). Obviously the way this money is CURRENTLY being used and corrupted is a big problem. But, what if it wasn’t? What if such things as credit cards and banks used for anything other then a literal safekeeping box didn’t exist? In that case, there would be no problem with paper money. The amount of paper currency floating around amounts in the trillions or more. But, just as easily, we could have trillions of the “single unit” in gold floating around as well. It’s really the same thing either way. They could have done this with gold if they had wanted to, the only difference is that it would have been harder to fool the people with obscure language if they had.

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    1. Chau

      Gold cannot be duplicated.

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      1. Raven

        No, but it can be dug out until it’s completely gone, and it doesn’t need to be duplicated in order to make it’s value go up. “Hmm… I’m going to start printing $200 coins instead of $1 coins just because I feel like it”…

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        1. Nate Y

          That’s why gold/sliver wouldn’t be priced based on face value (the “$200 coins instead of $1 coins”) but rather as a unit of weight. This is why there is a call for standard weights/measures in the Constitution.

          Also, it is infinitely easier to create paper bills than it is to mine gold. You say “it doesn’t need to be duplicated in order to make it’s value go up”. This makes no sense. If the supply goes up (duplicated) the value of the item (gold in this case) would trend down.

          I think you should just read a bit on the emergence of market/exchange economies from simple barter economies. You quickly come to realize why gold/silver are so often selected by the market as the preferred monies. Books/articles are much better at that kind of thing (education) than internet forums.

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          1. Raven

            Looking up trade values and economy strengths doesn’t tell you anything about what SHOULD be done, it only tells you what HAS been done. Somewhere in this speech Ron Paul says, “Currencies can’t be created out of thin air ” And yet, they have to be, because that is the very nature of currency itself. Paper money does not have value because WE SAY it has no value. Because a HUMAN somewhere, or a group of humans, DECIDED that this has lost it’s value. Gold also has no value, unless WE SAY it has value. There is NO SUCH THING as a currency that DOES have value, when currency is only there as a medium of exchange. As a matter of fact it makes far more sense to use a paper as a currency, because gold can be mixed with other metals and used to help create something that’s actually useful, such as a clock or a car, or even a wedding band. It is not the medium that is a problem it is only the people. So far in not a single speech, video, post, book, etc., has anyone been able to show a reason why paper currency is bad all by itself. Instead you only hear about the Federal Reserve Bank and how CURRENTLY we do not HAVE any money. This is true, if the paper we used for exchange WAS money, and if banks DIDN’T charge interest, there wouldn’t be such a problem. Also, printing money couldn’t possibly cause things to have higher prices – the fact that more money exists in the hands of the rich doesn’t mean that everyone has to give up more of it to buy things. The value of the FRN compared to the currency of other countries is set by the United Nations, but America could easily choose to keep it’s own money at it’s same value. The reason the money value goes down is because the bankers SAY it does. The United Nations could decide to make our FRN go below the value of a Mexican peso, but we as Americans could choose to continue pricing a 20 oz. Pepsi at $1.39 regardless of what we’d be using in Mexico. After all just because I have $10,000,000,000 doesn’t mean that anybody has to create anything and price it at $10,000,000,000.

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          2. Nate Y

            It is true that there is no objective reason why government issued paper currency couldn’t function as a proper medium of exchange. However central bank/government issued paper fiat currency has proven to be unreliable. Why? Well, being imperfect and fallible humans, the people in government and central banks quickly discover that debasing the currency (inflation/printing money) is advantageous for certain groups (among them government and central banks) for a short period of time. But this is not a good thing. Some groups are supported at the expense of other groups. It is noteworthy that unbacked paper money has never naturally emerged as the preferred medium of exchange on the free market. It always comes to be as a result of government decree (fiat).

            Your contention that “printing money couldn’t possibly cause things to have higher prices” is exactly wrong and it only takes a little common sense to realize why more money eventually leads to higher prices. I’m confident you will discover it.

            You say “It is not the medium that is a problem it is only the people.” Well, it is much easier to change the medium (or at least the rules which lead to the emergence of the medium) than it is to change people. I see no reason to think we mere mortals will soon transcend our humanity and become divine. In the absense of this impossible miracle. I think it best to let the market (people) decide what to use as the medium of exchange. It’s the best way to promote honest trade.

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  21. Rojeh Band

    President of this country is not enough for this man he is too good, he is another JFK power. I think the reasons are because 1st he loves our country 2. defends the constitution of our country and 3. elimination of Federal Reserve Band. He is amazing!!!

    Ron Paul Revolution for sure!

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  22. Dfens

    The previous generation of fighter jets, the F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18, the backbone of our fighter force to this day, took 3 to 5 years to make operational. Even the B-2, a much larger 2nd generation stealth airplane took only 12 years to design and make operational. It took half as long and cost half as much as the F-22. The next stealth fighter, the F-35 has already broken all records for development costs and won’t be ready for quite some time.

    We can’t just pretend the world is a safe place. It is a safe place for those who can defend themselves. In order for it to remain a safe place, we need to reform the way the government does business. They need to stop paying companies profit on development. Profit for development is nothing more than paying them to drag out design and testing. That’s not in anyone’s best interest but the contractor’s.

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  23. Dfens

    From: ACC/CC Commander
    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:48 PM
    To: Wynne Michael Honorable SAF/OS; Moseley Michael Gen AF/CC
    Cc: Clary David E MajGen ACC/CV; McKinley Craig R Lt Gen NGB/CF; 9 AF/CC Commander ; ACC/A3 Director of Air and Space Operations; ACC/A4 Director of Logistics; ACC/A5 Director of Plans and Programs; ACC/A8 Director of Requirements; 192 FW CCAIR Air Commanders; ACC/DS Director Of Staff; ACC/DSAA Correspondence; ACC/CCX Commanders Action Group; ACC/HO Command Historian; ACC/PA Director of Public Affairs; AFPEO F-22 Program; 1 FW/CC Commander; Hansen Mark L LtCol ACC/A3OH; ACC/CV Vice Commander
    Subject: F-22A FOC Declaration

    MEMORANDUM FOR CSAF
    SAF/OS

    SUBJECT: F-22A FOC Declaration

    1. Mr. Secretary and Chief, I am honored to announce that after 25 years of collaborative effort, a key milestone for the F-22A is behind us. The integrated 1FW/192FW at Langley possesses sufficient Raptors, equipment and trained Airmen to provide Air Dominance for the Joint Force for many years to come. The Raptor is ready for global CFACC tasking ahead of schedule and I declare Full Operational Capability for
    the F-22A as of 12 December 07.

    2. Our success at Langley is the showcase example of our shared vision for the Total Force Integration of tomorrow. 1FW Active duty and 192FW Virginia guard Airmen fly and maintain the world’s premier 5th generation fighter with seamless integration, superior dedication and unmatched synergy. Team Langley represents the type of readiness and organization we need to maintain a dominant Joint Total Force for the future.

    //Signed//
    JOHN D.W. CORLEY
    General, USAF
    Commander

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  24. Marilyn

    Mispelled a couple of words. Sorry about that.

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  25. Marilyn

    Dr. Paul’s speech at St. Louis was wonderful, and the crowd was huge and very upbeat.
    Please go to the Time Magazine website, click on Best and Worst List, then Time 100 Finalists. Dr. Paul is second third in votes. Click on his name and vote him 98 (100 may not work), click submit, refresh, and do it again. Get his ahead of Kagame by voting him down to 2.

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