HR 1207: Audit The Federal Reserve
Ron Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve (HR 1207) now has 55 co-sponsors, and the numbers keep growing!
Keep up the great work everyone!
If you haven’t done so already, tell everyone you know to call and write their representative and ask that they support the “Federal Reserve Transparency Act H.R. 1207″.
If you called before and if your representative is not listed below, follow up and ask them to take a position either way so we know where they stand on the issue of bringing transparency to the Federal Reserve.
Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121
Here’s a sample letter you can use.
HR 1207 Co-Sponsors (as of 4/17/2009)
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] – 2/26/2009
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] – 3/19/2009
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] – 3/10/2009
Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] – 2/26/2009
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] – 2/26/2009
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] – 3/16/2009
Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] – 3/24/2009
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] – 2/26/2009
Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] – 3/17/2009
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] – 3/19/2009
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] – 2/26/2009
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] – 4/1/2009
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] – 3/31/2009
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] – 3/17/2009
Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] – 3/6/2009
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] – 3/26/2009
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] – 3/23/2009
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] – 3/9/2009
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] – 3/6/2009
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] – 4/2/2009
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] – 3/18/2009
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] – 3/10/2009
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] – 3/23/2009
Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] – 3/5/2009
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] – 3/30/2009
Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] – 3/11/2009
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] – 3/6/2009
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] – 2/26/2009
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] – 2/26/2009
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] – 3/6/2009
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] – 3/19/2009
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] – 3/11/2009
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] – 3/6/2009
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] – 3/19/2009
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] – 3/24/2009
Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] – 3/30/2009
Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] – 3/19/2009
Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] – 3/10/2009
Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] – 3/19/2009
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] – 2/26/2009
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] – 2/26/2009
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] – 3/10/2009
Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] – 2/26/2009
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] – 3/6/2009
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] – 3/23/2009
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] – 4/2/2009
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] – 3/26/2009
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] – 3/6/2009
Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] – 3/6/2009
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] – 3/30/2009
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] – 3/16/2009
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] – 4/2/2009
Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] – 4/1/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] – 2/26/2009
Rep Young, Don [AK] – 3/6/2009
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[...] bill is based on a bill authored by Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) in the House, H.R. 1207, and Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont) in the Senate, S. 604. [...]
I’m still waiting by the phone for my representative (Joe Crowley, NY-7) to call… sniff…
Id just like to say Ron Paul to keep up the good work and im glad that someone has the courage and moral fiber to actually not be corrupt and give into wealth from ill-gotten gains. My question actually is if anyone knows how many co-sponsors are going to be needed for this bill to be pushed through? REALLY wondering about that.
Just to say, that you should consider you need as many as you can possibly get for this bill and to get it voted on.
http://www.votervoice.net/Core.aspx?AID=972&APP=GAC&SiteID=0&IssueID=16611
Go with that in mind from the start. A good majority need to be sponsoring this bill, and it will take faxes to their office & keeping a full on watch over them to make sure it gets done.
Go for 100, go for more, lets get this bill passed & get through!!
3 co-sponsers withdrew.
Last I checked there were 58 cosponsors, now only 55? WTF?
I would say its just a typo if not, or if certain people are getting those “calls” from Big Banks I encourage everyone…….Go back to your representative and make sure they co-sponsor this bill!!
Do whatever you can, watch their office and fax it so they are on notice. In case of any dropouts or hold backs keep on their case.
Fox News has always been selling the news as pre-packaged Banking News, the only reason they actually let any truths slip out about the Federal Reserve is because they need something to blame on Obama – this is all part of normal protocol.
“Ailes must have an Olympic pool filled with spiked Kool-Aid, or perhaps a truly remarkable control over his facial tics, to be able to publicly utter this kind of delusional drivel. Here, take a look at the Wikipedia entry titled “Fox News channel controversies”.
Photocopied memos from Fox News executive John Moody instructed the network’s on-air anchors and reporters to use positive language when discussing pro-life viewpoints, the Iraq war, and tax cuts, as well as requesting that the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal be put in context with the other violence in the area [3]. Such memos were reproduced for the anti-FOX News film Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch’s War on Journalism, which included Moody quotes such as, “[T]he soldiers [seen on FOX in Iraq ] in the foreground should be identified as ’sharpshooters,’ not ’snipers,’ which carries a negative connotation.” Former Fox News producer Charlie Reina explained, “The roots of Fox News Channel’s day-to-day on-air bias are actual and direct. They come in the form of an executive memo distributed electronically each morning, addressing what stories will be covered and, often, suggesting how they should be covered. To the newsroom personnel responsible for the channel’s daytime programming, The Memo is the Bible. If, on any given day, you notice that the Fox anchors seem to be trying to drive a particular point home, you can bet The Memo is behind it.”
http://www.dailygotham.com/new_york_categories/media/tv/fox_news
http://www.daylife.com/article/01iw2iGdzk9FB?q=FOX+News
Fox News is all about the marketing dollars, if pro-life messages and pro-war sells they will sell that for the Fed. If pro-liberty / pro-gun sells they will sell that for the Fed. Fox doesn’t really ever change what it is, though.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/10/business/business-diary-july-3-8.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/02/business/main2751654.shtml
Fox Network mad at the Fed
http://www.smartbrief.com/news/ctam/companyData.jsp?companyId=22114
As you can see right now, News Corp is a shareholder but because of some petty disagreements the Murdoch/News corp camp is angry at who runs the Fed meaning Bernanke Liberals. They still love the banking scam, the only change is they’re having a little in-fighting for fun.
definitely i hit the streets today and spoke to many people about the fed and marching on Washington to ensure our success. at least eight out of ten people agree and that we should march. im going to buy some email list so that i can send the HR 1207 fact sheet to as many people as i can.through this medium. nothing is out of the question when it comes to informing the public. and this must be our top priority.
I guess it’s my fault for thinking this site was more then what it is. It seems talking about who owns what, sending emails and letters will fix the problem. We the people thank you for you support and I will be back if I can find more people.
Viva La Revolution
Obamaandnukes, what is your source that Fox News is owned by the Federal Reserve. And when you say Federal Reserve, you do realize it’s not just one organization, right? There are several families and corporations (foreign and domestic) that control the FR.
Can you please post a link to your source about Fox, because if it were true, Fox wouldn’t be allowed to speak out against Obama and his team, or it would seem that way.
Don’t you think it would be more affective for our nation if we repented before God for the sins of our nation? We’ve allowed abortion and marriage laws to be destroyed. We’ve allowed Hollywood and socialism to indoctrinate people. We’ve allowed the ACLU to strip the mention of God or His Son from our public and now they are moving into the private life.
Marching in the streets will get you noticed by people, but it isn’t people who can save you.
Why are any of you expecting the MEDIA to cover it?
The Media is owned by the Federal Reserve, even Fox News, the media has always been the other face of the BANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And wake up!!!!!!!!
The BANKS control what happens, and the BANKS are run by Israel & their Zionist Globalists.
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” Thomas Jefferson
Get everyone to march on Washington and New Jersey, that will get tons of independent media to cover it, that will get McClatchy, Youtube and all the rest of the Ron Paul networks to cover it.
That will force even the corporate media to cover the bill HR 1207 but here’s my suggestion….don’t do it until there is significant momentum!!!
Don’t want to give Geithner and the enemy any ideas…..Alright so get to it!!!
http://www.votervoice.net/Core.aspx?AID=972&APP=GAC&SiteID=0&IssueID=16611
beginning tomorrow im going to send a the HR 1207 bill fax form, three times a day to every rep and senator in NY and NJ. i also hit the streets of the Bronx and i was surprised at how many people are really starting to question the establishment. not to mention that mentioning that the fed is a private bank and they are the same ones who are getting the bailout money. really pissed some people off. we need to give this all we’ve got there is no time to waste. i can imagine how panicked the share holders to the fed must be. and they must be pouring millions if not billions to stop this from happening. we have to inform and even march on Washington 100,000 strong. this is war our sovereignty is at stake. we mustn’t fail.
I agree with take it to the streets we should march on Washington. we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. dude you say the word and im there. we should give it a shot. and yea we can get the independent media to cover it and bring more and more people aboard. doing something is always better than doing nothing. we should do whatever we can, with what we have. please i don’t want to see our country fall because we didn’t do enough. our forfathers would be disgraced if we didn’t. i hope your not bluffing im dead serious about this
No, of course not. If I thought it was hopeless, do you think I would be going after Georgia politicians, Defense contractors and a judge? C’mon.
What I’m saying is don’t depend on the media to get your story out.
I’ve spent the past six years of my life going before judges and lawyers who care nothing about integrity and truth. Their goal is to rip apart, win at all costs, and twist the truth. Yet, I am still fighting because I believe there is hope.
I don’t depend on it, nor do I expect the media to step in and care…at least, not the Liberal media.
Laying down and taking it is what the other half of Americans have been doing. Why do you think the Liberals are in control? One company after another caves in to the ACLU. Rather than fight, they cave. One government agency after another caves in to the ACLU rather than fight.
Our courts, schools and another government agencies have no problem with the Muslim religion. There is no ACLU screaming “separation of church and state”.
Laying down and taking it will cost us our freedom.
So you’re saying it’s hopeless? That we should lay down and take it?
Yes, I think it’s going to get played down. The biggest story that ever hit the United States news is a potential foreign enemy that had taken over the office of the President of the United States, and the media does nothing.
Do you really think your story matters to them?
@ Take to the streets,
We would need a different way of getting our point across. The media isn’t going to broadcast it because the same people who own the Federal Reserve also own the media. With the exception of Fox News, which I haven’t researched.
Google McClatchy and Gannett and see who bids and buys the shares. Google Hellman & Friedman.
You have to give everyone credit for tearing down America. They set up in strategic positions. They gained control of the courts, the Federal Reserve, the media, the health, the schools. We can’t deny how brilliant they were in hijacking the Constitution.
Honestly, in my humble opinion, we are getting what we deserve. We sat by and let “them” take control and push us around and coward us down to accept their Liberal agendas. Some Republicans crossed over party lines to punish the Republican party.
How many of you were horrified to see the millions of illegals marching on our streets waving their nation’s flag on our soil? Did we do the same to protest against what they did? No. Business as usual.
A CBS affiliate reporter called me on my cell phone to pretend she wanted my story. I told her I knew she was calling on behalf of the defendants. She claimed she wasn’t and claimed she would report my story. I gave her the story and she failed to report it. She now works for the defendants is no longer a reporter.
You can’t count on the media to get your story across. They would have to tell on their shareholders if they chose to report. They aren’t going to do that. They report what they’re told to report.
America sinking is music to their ears.
Who is left in Congress that will stand with us and aren’t bought by the corporations and lobbyists?
Well, obviously, if Ron Paul was “one of them” he wouldn’t be writing this bill. It’s a start, but don’t expect media to tell your story.
Am sorry but your telling me if 100,000 people show up at the steps of the white house once a month until this bill is voted on that no news station will cover it? I don’t care if Amschel Moses Rothschild himself owns them the power of the people is still alive. At least for a few more years
It not going to stop until we start marching on Washington. Look that is how it worked for the civil rights movement and that’s how it’s working for gay rights. To say the least more then 80 percent of America have no idea about this bill. A lot of people in the world are going through the same thing but until we get on television and radio in numbers and start telling people about it. I know that I am doing the same thing I’m you doesn’t work but I’m in the U.S Army and it’s had for me to just up and go. Dr Ron Paul only have so many years on this earth, we need to star sowing the seeds because believe me in about five years we won’t be able to do anything but pick up a gun.
Is there anyone left in Congress that isn’t corrupted? Politicians get funding from the corporations that run the Federal Reserve. Do you really think anyone is actually going to audit them?
I have a $550 million lawsuit going on right now and in five courts up against (at last count) 14 lawyers. These are corporate and United States lawyers. One of the defendants, a Defense contractor, was bought out by a company that also bought shares of Lehman Bro., giving them a stake in the Federal Reserve.
Not only that, Georgia senators and congressmen protect these people. After all, they get funding from their lobbyists, lawyers and the corporations.
I hope you succeed. I really do. I would love for their corrupt walls to come crashing down.
Yeah uh News Flash for everybody, but technically if you really take the words of the scripture correctly what it is referring to is the Pope, King, and religious ministers will spout “blasphemy” because during this time they will be under influence of the “Great Harlot” of Babylon.
I’ll give you three guesses or no more than one who that is. She’s the ultimate deceiver, led the chosen people to fascism and ruin, and happens to use the slogan…
“By way of deception, thou shalt do war.”
I won’t even speak her name here because all knows who it is. So back on topic, lets get HR 1207 right up the gate!!
Ok people here is the real deal so that we can get back to the business at hand. God loves us and wants us to be with Him. So He did not make it a complicated matter. He does not want only the “well researched” to be able to find and understand Him. He wants everyone with Him. Here is all you need to know. Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” (Matthew 22:36 NIV). Jesus replied, ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40 NIV).
Mike, you’re sounding like one of those supremacists and please go get a grip.
The moderator should move all this religious talk to a religion thread, this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic and is counter-productive.
I don’t know who has convinced you that the christain church and catholic church are the root of all evil, but I’m sure they are equally as insane as the enemy appears to be.
Pay attention next time you get mixed up in such theories. The very same people who direct you to attack those things, are the people which run the banking industry. Get a grip and pay attention.
Wow….And you wonder why there are alot of people who consider Ron Paul suporters kooks and nuts. Whatever your religious persuasion, this is about the Federal Reserve and the future of our country. Let’s keep the seperation of Church and state in our discusions. You may not agree with this, but if we are to have any success in future elections we must seek to not scare away the main stream electorate with rantings about Religion. Try to keep on the path of logical, truthfull discussions with out digressing into a Religious debate. Please continue support of HR 1207 !!!
Thanks. At least one sane person is on this thread.
As for H.R. 1207, If exposing the fraud of the monatary system helps to focus on the other tools the beast is using to destroy mankind I am all for it. Just understand that this beast will not go quietly in to the night. The whole concept of INTEREST is condemned in every bible. It is called usury. Read it for your selves, it is for OUR LIFE TIME, this time period that we are all living through.
@seekhelpmike,
Thanks for the advice. You are my help, folks like your self, who are not educated in scripture cause me to continue researching and I learn more every day. Re-reading the words that were written for our edification and education. There is no disagreements from me about the groups that play a part in the grand scheme. It is the HEAD of the beast that does not want to be exposed, but she will be found buck naked, with her top yanked down, and her skirt tossed over her head. With or with out help this is a promise from our heavenly father. Weather you choose to acknowledge him or not.
@seekhelpmike,
Nothing that you said can be found in any bible. So I quess your another who does not, and will not study it. What I posted can be found in every bible. So who needs help? I made nothing up, read it for your self! If you need references, or web links, or book titles of books or even page numbers JUST LET ME KNOW. Be honest with me, tell me what flavor of religion you are? Just so I can understand the depth of your scriptural knowledge. It does vary among the menu.
Mike, seek help buddy.
Lets deal with the Federal Reserve first.
Christianity and the Catholic Church are NOT the problem.
The enemy for all anyone knows has deceived you.
No Mike, the real problem is the Zionist military industrial complex do you get that yet?
Inside of this scheme, there are some fallen clergymen, some blackmailed politicians, some Kabballah wielders, many catholics and christains & those said to be “christain” who were deceived and poisoned by the Harlot
The Harlot Mike…..there are not more evil christains in the world then there are fallen worshipers of Zion!
Do not be deceived that it is christains or the catholic church BEHIND it.
It is no less than Israel itself who is behind it, it is they who turned masonry on its ears. It is they who blame the christains, it is they who brought like it or not “witchcraft” into Vatican seminary and high level churches.
Masons did not worship the love of money before they came around, this is true. Some call them “jews” and I call them what they really are…..Babylonians, they are Zionists….
We’ll deal with the other Christain Zionists after the first Zionists fall….Why have it any other way.
In the late 1980’s and early 90’s there was over 80% of the US Government, that is the elected officials, that were ROMAN CATHOLIC. My bet is that is even more today. Not a chance that is less. Just the same in Britian, Germany, France, England, and so forth and so forth, the bible doesnt call her a beast for nothing. The bible doesnt say she has made the kings of the earth drunk with the wine of her fornication for nothing. It doesnt take a bible scholar to read the writing on the wall today. All you have to do is read it your self. The bible says that she has blinded the minds of the entire earth. That means SHE has power. Where does power come from governments, seats, and money. How could we accept this, no one wants to be told they are deceived by the ruling beast on earth. It sounds absurd, but its true. The world calls the pope HOLY, the HOLY SEE, and tens of thousands of children have been RAPPED for over a century. The world believes that these are isolated. The facts are not made public about what really takes place in the secret catacombs under Rome. But blood, and children, and sacrifices, have for years been played out in movies as a joke and entertainment. Is that not in your face, up yours mentality, and deception. President Bush said he sees god when he looked into the popes eyes, do you know what that really means? It was not Yahweh that Bush saw looking back at him. Really it wasnt. It was however a spirit, princes, and princapalities, and spirits of wickedness in HIGH places. What higher place is there on earth other than the office of POPE, and the Roman catholic church? Yahshua himself said be on guard so that no man deceives you. There is no way to disect the earths problems. We humans do not wrestle against flesh and blood ALONE. Remember, remember who WE are. We are spiritual HUMAN BEINGS, with the opportunity to receive salvation, not like the catholic church has taught for over a millinium, no no thats the key. The true salvation was explained to you by yahshua the only sacrifice. He did not tell you to live practicing breaking every commandment becuase his blood washed you. He said do not let any one deceive you. I did not come to do away with my fathers laws, but to establish them. Do you know that this is not what christianity teaches, do you know that all christian doctrine came from the catholic church and it is a mixture of rightousness and evil. Yahshua had no evil……………………WE MUST TAKE THE WHOLE PICTURE OR WE WILL FAIL. We must expose ALL who want to take our REPUBLIC, and this includes ROME…………
Mike,
There is definitely a spiritual layer to the events around us humans… but there has been since man was created in Eden. At the same time, I also admit that I believe the Holy Spirit is actively stirring many during these times. Others (you’re not alone in this respect) perceive a more-than-coincidental correlation between economic and political current events and Biblical prophecy. I am one as well (though I don’t exactly subscribe to the version of this ‘whole picture’ you’ve described.) I agree that an urgent call to study God’s Word is critical to each person on Earth today… but hasn’t it been equally important for each person on Earth that was here and died before this economic and political moment in time? Although the gravity of this topic can be humbling, we must be careful to not be deceived into reacting out of fear. We are to: trust in the Lord with ALL of our heart, lean not on our own understanding; In ALL our ways acknowledge Him, and He will make our paths straight.
You say, “My agenda is not any different, save our REPUBLIC. But we will fail if we refuse to SEE who is pulling the strings.”
I totally disagree here, Mike. Our successes or failures are not contingent upon our choice to see the big picture. Sovereign God determines whether we move forward or backward. And it’s a good thing, too, because He’s more powerful than any foe.
I’m not sure what your intention for writing here is. You say you want to save our Republic yet you warn that this bill will be a spark that causes the world much pain. Sounds like a tough dilemma for you. Are you posting in support of HR 1207? Or are you posting to dissuade the most active proponents? You understand, of course, that the latter could be construed as an accomplice to the very beast you describe. Tough call. Perhaps that’s where your fear is coming from. My view: You’re either for Him or against Him, Mike. God’s in control of end-time events- not us- though He may choose to use us. Our job is simple- REPENT, WORSHIP Him, PRAY constantly, SEEK His wisdom in His word and PROCLAIM the risen Lord, the son of God, the innocent lamb who was slain for the sin of the world.
It is precisely because of my belief of the evil influences contributing to the demise of our Republic that I intend to continue my support for its restoration and our liberties by focusing my energies on the next task at hand, the success of HR 1207.
DUDE, You dont even use Yahweh’s name. Are you a catholic priest? You dont even call his son by his name. You really think your concept is any different than that which was brought from Rome? Answer me this did you set a christmas tree in your house last November after Thanksgiving? If you did can you explaine why that very practice is condemned in your bible? Or did you not know that that custom was condemned in your bible. Be 100% honest. Tell where in the scriptures it is condemned. I dont need you to tell where, I already know. What I want to know is if you comprehend what condemned means. You mention some of what I posted. But your not understanding any prophecy. Yahweh is not interfering with a single thread of what mankind is doing today. He is not doing anything for or against us. He is not even worshipped on earth. You dont worship Yahweh, your serving a god, there IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. Please you sound like a good preacher man, but your 2-3 year seminary course will not stand up in front of Yahshua. Tell me are you a preacher. You sure sound like one. You believe I am in fear. You are terribly mistaken. I am in no way fearing any of this. I have been watching this unfold for years. Your christian doctrine is void, Empty, and lacking. Did you read the scriptures that I referenced? Remember I used to be a christian. Please the concept that your offering comes straight from Constantine along with others who created the christian doctrines, they are NOT OF YAHWEH. Preacher there are scriptures that warn false teachers, what you posted is false doctrine Im am pleased to tell you.
I am going to share some facts about the name Jesus Christ.
These are facts that preachers are not taught in their 2 year collage courses to save the planet.
The First Council of Nicaea and the “missing records”
Up until the First Council of Nicaea, the Roman aristocracy primarily worshipped two Greek gods_Apollo and Zeus_but the great bulk of common people idolised either Julius Caesar or Mithras (The Romanised version of the Persian deity Mithra). Caesar was deified by the Roman Senate after his death (15 March 44 bc) and subsequently venerated as “the Divine Julius”. The word “Saviour” was affixed to his name, its literal meaning being “one who sows the seed”, i.e., he was a phallic god. Julius Caesar was hailed as “God made manifest and universal Saviour of human life”, and his successor Augustus was called the “ancestral God and Saviour of the whole human race” (Man and his Gods, Homer Smith, Little, Brown & Co., Boston, 1952). Emperor Nero (54-68), whose original name was Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus (37-68), was immortalised on his coins as the “Saviour of mankind” (ibid.). The Divine Julius as Roman Saviour and “Father of the Empire” was considered “God” among the Roman rabble for more than 300 years. He was the deity in some Western presbyters’ texts, but was not recognised in Eastern or Oriental writings.
Constantine’s intention at Nicaea was to create an entirely new god for his empire who would unite all religious factions under one deity. Presbyters were asked to debate and decide who their new god would be. Delegates argued among themselves, expressing personal motive for inclusion of particular writings that promoted the finer traits of their own special deity. Throughout the meeting, howling factions were immersed in heated debates, and the names of 53 gods were tabled for discussion. “As yet, no God had been selected by the council, and so they balloted in order to determine that matter… For one year and five months the balloting lasted…” (God’s Book of Eskra, Prof. S.L. MacGuire’s translation, Salisbury, 1922, chapter xlviii, paragraphs 36, 41).
At the end of that time, Constantine returned to the gathering to discover that the presbyters had not agreed on a new deity but had balloted down to a short list of five prospects: Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus and Zeus (Historia Ecclesiastica, Eusebius, c. 325). Constantine was the ruling spirit at Nicaea and he ultimately decided upon a new god for them. To involve British factions, he ruled that the name of the Druid god, Hesus, be joined with the Eastern Saviour-god, Krishna (Krishna is Sanskrit for Christ), and thus Hesus Krishna would be the official name of the new Roman god. A vote was taken and it was with a majority show of hands (161 votes to 157) that both divinities become one God. Following long-standing heathen custom, Constantine used the official gathering and the Roman apotheosis decree to legally deify two deities as one, and did so by democratic consent. A new god was proclaimed and “officially” ratified by Constantine (Acta Concilii Nicaeni, 1618). That purely political act of deification effectively and legally placed Hesus and Krishna among the Roman gods as one individual composite. That abstraction lent Earthly existence to amalgamated doctrines of the Empire’s new religion; and because there was no letter “J” in alphabets until around the ninth century, the name subsequently evolved into “Jesus Christ”.
Nexus Magazine, Volume 14, Number 4
Please forgive me for useing foolish derogatory words when I refer to christians. I was a christian. IT is the doctrine that I dispise, not the people. Not Americans. The leaders, the preachers, the judges, and the attornies. My agenda is not any different, save our REPUBLIC. But we will fail if we refuse to SEE who is pulling the strings. The global economy is at stake for this beast, her control on the minds of the entire huamn race. This “thing” that is occuring right now is all explained in the bible, but not through a christian concept of the bible. That is the trick. Thats the evil. She uses the bible to deceive, to devide, and to maintain control. We are messing around with her riches and she WILL GET PISSED. Count on it. Try to understand the importance of taking the whole picture, and not just pieces of a puzzel.
I couldn’t even finish reading that Mike but look we’ll work on getting the FED audited and you start on that other stuff. If you get whatever it is your trying to accomplished finished first we’d love your support and don’t get me wrong if and when we do away with the FED we’ll have more then enough time and money to help you with your project. Mike you clearly have a different agenda from what we are trying to do here, I’m sore you’ve read one or two of the statements made and all I’m asking for is a little respect.
This House Resolution Bill will be a spark that will cause the world much much pain. That what we seek to destroy on the surface appears to be just a small group of extremely wealthy individuals, and their private banks. What most can not see is the beast behind the veil, from where the power has come to allow these people to accomplish these goals in service to this beast. The truth that lies beyond your eyes, is of a spiritual nature. There are but a few that can grasp, and comprehend and put all the pieces together. What the earth is soon to suffer is nothing in comparison to a world economic collapse. Matthew 24. The earth is as your chrisitan bible says in Revelations 12:9. The economic collapse is just the precursor to events that the christian doctrines have caused to be ignored. Because the beast it self is the head of christian doctrine. Revelations 17:9, READ Revelations 17:1-5, read an encyclopidia, look up Rome.
This is not fantasy, this is occuring now. This is your holy father’s church. That which the earth calls holy the scriptures call profane, and that which the earth calls profane, is holy. The beast is called a woman, she is found on the earth. She sits on seven hills and she has made drunk all the kings of the earth, and commited fornication with them, this IS NOT speaking of sex. It is speaking of abominations that refer to the worship of the creator, that this beast has blinded the entire earth through her delicasies, and riches, and the judgements of Yahshua HAS begun. Christians have so much pride and so little education that they will not read and study. They would say that I was deceived, well I was a christian for years, and then a 17 year old kid asked me if I study the bible or just read passages, and listen to a preacher. In all honesty I said well your right. He told me to go and study the bible, learn all you can about the book, and the scriptures, so I did, and now I am warning you, this is going to get worse. The diseases, earthquakes, war, rumors of wars, and hatred will get worse. READ Revelations 9:20-21. To PRETEND that this is NOT Yahweh’s planet and we are his beloved creation and that this beast DOES NOT want us to KNOW is not going to stop what is taking place now. It WILL occur. Matthew 24, all of this is taking place now. Our pompus arogant christian attitudes will not stop any of it. JESUS CHRIST IS NOT THE NAME OF THE SAVIOUR, AND IT DOES MATTER WHAT WE CALL our heavenly father AND HIS son who SACRIFICED HIM SELF, to be so mentally lazy and arrogant to think that HIS SACRIFICE means so little to christians while they speak such rediculous words in ignorance saying it doesnt matter what you call him, you are fools, and slow of heart to not beleive ALL that was written by the prophets. There is but one way to stop this, and one way to save millions of lives it can not be done for any other reason, and I MEAN FOR NO OTHER REASON except for YAHWEH himself, if you do anything for any other reason it will fail. Do some real reserch, stop being deceived, Yahweh does CARE WHAT YOU CALL HIM or the catholic church would not have banned the annunciation and its use by all members on 08-13-08, you ignorant, proud, under educated, decieved christians. Go and look at the decree your self read it for your self. Why would the catholic church ban YAHWEH’S name? Stop be logical. Your life depends upon it. Read the verses, seek Yahweh and his wisdom and foregiveness. Learn what it means to be RIGHTOUS, YAHSHUA did not sacrifice his life so that christians and the world could live like you all are living now………..Nuclear bombs are going to be used on earth and million prabably billions wil die. READ IT FOR YOUR SELF. I DARE YOU. More than 25 years have I been studying, living my life mostly alone, ridiculed for reading and studying, and not having a “life” according to christian wordly standards, well maybe some of you one day will thank me. But I know that it will be few. Revelations 9:20 May Yahweh have mercy and give us time to review the doctrines that have been fed to the human race, and maybe there will be some that he calls out and puts to work so that there might be some saved. Christians, santa clause, the easter bunny and chicken, dead yahdaim killed in Rome, a holiday for christians who were responsable for the torture of Yahshua, HALLOWEEN, christians dont know anything about their stupid holidays. Well I know plenty and it IS DISCUSTING, to lie to your own children. Not even knowing the origins of days YOU THINK ARE HOLY………READ READ STUDY STUDY. Time IS RUNNING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“How soon does the audit take place?”
It says in the text the audit will take place starting right after and to be completed by no later than 2010, with the full oversight of Congress so everyone needs to get them on the ball. With a full fledged audit, an informed decision can be made on when or if the Fed just needs to go.
When is this going before congress? How soon after does the audit take place? Do we need a certain amount of Co-Sponsors? I ask this because there needs to be an organize march on washington the date of the vote to let washington know we are not just talking and if it’s not passed those who voted against it at least my rep will not have my vote.
If you can answer any of the about questions please do.
Get representative Grayson on board HR 1207, he is who just passed a bill to limit and ban banking bonuses.
http://grayson.house.gov
Then go right to Massachusetts, get everyone on board besides Barney Frank & we can then get Frank on board via their pressure!
“as I speak selecting the people who will be doing the auditing. Please don’t let that happen.”
DON’T allow this to happen, Doctor Paul. The time has come to find out what’s going on at the Reserve, so don’t allow Geithner, or anybody else, NOT Gordon Brown and not anyone to conduct the audit so we can decide what to do with this bank once & for all.
The time has come, OPEN IT UP, OPEN THOSE VAULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are very lucky to have a good man like Dr Paul hunting down these agents of destruction to America. He is I am certain being hounded by the agents whpo can make people go awat if the Fed so requests.I have been a student of the Federal Reserve Corp for over 5 years now and credit the patriot Aaron Russo as being my hero when few were actually available back than. How on earth people will still not look at the evidence available to see if what we say about these international crooks is valid or not is way beyond me. But we will always have the 80/20 situatiom where 20% of the people will do 80% of the work to make these evil people grab a hat and hit the door running..BUT never ever forget it is and was our Congressional felons and traitors that made the hoax real in America ..and still will not raise there twisted voices to tell wqe the people the truth that will soon convict them of some very serious crimes against our Constitution
I sent an email to my rep Eliot L. Engel. I also sent one on behalf of my brothers and sister including my mother. unfortunately where i live in the bronx most people here are still hypnotized by obama and either dont know or care about the bill. I would like to organize and get more supporters here in the city. This definitely is something that more people here in nyc need to be aware about
Audit them and find out who really owns the FED-then nationalize it so only the Treasury issues currency as the Constitution instructs and not private banksters!!
Dave-
Nationalize the Fed! Now that would be fitting – we have nationalized or are nationalizing the other banks – why not the most sinister of them all! That might set Rothschild, Morgan et al back a “dime” or two.
When the list is published could you include the Rep’s party? How many Democrats have endorsed it?
I am requesting that my congressman, Brad Sherman CA-27, endorse the bill.
I wrote a letter to the President at the White House about H.R.1207 and have not received a response as of yet from him.Also, I think we need to have Ken Louis FIRED too. Of course this would be just another unconstitutional thing but hey while we’re making people like the C.E.O. of GM. stand down what the hell. Right? no’ wrong.
I called Representative Harry Mitchell (AZ-5) today at his local office in Scottsdale, Arizona and asked that Mitchell support this bill. I hope other Ron Paul supporters will take the time to do the same.
Scottsdale office: 480-946-2411
Washington office: 202-225-2190
Congressman Paul I’d like to thank you for everything you do for the American people but also would like to warn you that now that the FED knows about your good work they are as I speak selecting the people who will be doing the auditing. Please don’t let that happen.
My congressman is now a co-sponsor of the bill since 2 days ago! I’ll take it that he received my e-mail because I have not received a reply back. This is great news! One step closer to finding what the FED is really up to.
I was just informed that John Cambell from the 48th district in California said that he is not against it but has not fully read it to understand it. This bill must be huge compared to some of the other ridiculous bills that we have seen in the past months. If anyone lives in this district contact him and let him know where you stand. This guy is not very good with returning emails so I suggest you call.
thanks
Oh, it’s a whole 3 pages long, double-spaced and generously margined.
I’m sure it would take him forever.
I tip my hat to all the Texan’s who are on board. Thanks so much.
I have contaced William Delahunt several times (10th District MA) by e-mail, telephone, and with the on-line petition. The only response I get is a cheesy form auto-reply e-mail saying it is hard for him to respond to all his correspondence. Regardless, I will keep trying to persuade William Delahunt to co-sponser this bill. Please note my attempts will most likely result in failure as Mr. Delahunt is a politician much like Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, and John Kerry.
In addition to contacting your repsentative everyone should be contacting the Financial Services committee to urge them to act on H.R. 1207 and not let it die in committee. Here is a sample letter.
“I would like to urge the Financial Services Committee to conduct a hearing on H.R. 1207. As a citizen I believe that this legislation is of the utmost importance to the health of our financial system. Accountability and responsibility is demanded, today more than ever, by the American citizens. This is especially true for those at the highest levels of government and non government agencies. Because there are absolutely no transparency requirements for this private banking institution, through audits, we the people are unable to believe that our best interests are kept in mind when it comes to the distribution of Treasury funds and assets by the FED. Without audits of this institution, it makes it all but impossible for the likes of the Financial Services Committee to ensure truth and honesty within our financial system. I remind you that since the inception of the Fed in 1913, there have been ZERO audits. This is a travesty and a complete disgrace to allow a private banking institution to have free reign of our nations financial system sans accountability. Without transparency, how can we expect to fix the problem? So again, I would like to urge the members to bring H.R. 1207 to a vote and not let it die in committee. Our country needs this, and our citizens demand it. Thank you, ”
The website for the FCS is http://www.http://financialservices.house.gov/
House Financial Services Committee
Democratic Staff
2129 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Ph: (202) 225-4247
Fax: (202) 225-6952
The website of the Financial Services Committee (FSC) is
http://financialservices.house.gov/
The contact link is at the bottom of the page.
I’ve just contacted my state and Federal reps including the President. I’m now forwarding the letter onto the FSC.
Keep it up people.
Geithner is nothing more than an employee of the fed. They are attempting to seize complete control over, not only our financial system, but our means of production.
We must continue this fight to audit the fed., enduring all setbacks.
I just called my Representatives office asking for her to cosponsor. In case you were wondering her name is Judy Biggert 13th Congressional District Illinois. If i dont get an answer soon ill keep calling.
Chris,
Thanks for the help on the rewrite. It sounds good. I hope we can get the word out so that H.R. 1207 will not die in committee.
Joe
Kevin name and shame them,since is not it written that a man cannot serve two masters? Either they do the bidding of the Fed Res or should they be morally bound to serve the electorate who pays their way and all the debt that the Res has created.
I emailed my congresswomen and she emailed me back saying she was a sponsor of the bill, yet her name is not on the list.
Faxing all the reps I can. Will follow up with thank yous.
I just called the Financial Services committee in reference to H.R. 1207. I was told that they know of no action taken on H.R. 1207 or if any action would be taken. Maybe we should get the word out to have people contact the Financial Services Committee and urge them to take action on H.R. 1207. Below is what I sent. The website is http://www.financialservices.house.gov
I would like to urge the Financial Services Committee to conduct a hearing on H.R. 1207. As a citizen I belief that this legislation is of the utmost importance to the health of the current economic situation our country finds itself in. Without the ability to audit the FED we as a country will never be able to know what is going on behind the scenes. If noone knows what is being done inside the FED then how can we ever expect to fix the problem. It only makes since. So again I would like to urge the members to take a look at H.R. 1207 and don’t let it die in committee. Our country needs this.
Thank you.
Joe,
I modified, or rather, rewrote what you suggested sending the FSC. Your paragraph had a few spelling and grammatical errors. (no foul) I guess something along the lines of which you wrote would be seen as a kinder and gentler approach. I chose to spice it up a bit.
Here is what I wrote:
“I would like to urge the Financial Services Committee to conduct a hearing on H.R. 1207. As a citizen I believe that this legislation is of the utmost importance to the health of our financial system. Accountability and responsibility is demanded, today more than ever, by the American citizens. This is especially true for those at the highest levels of government and non government agencies.
Because there are absolutely no transparency requirements for this private banking institution, through audits, we the people are unable to believe that our best interests are kept in mind when it comes to the distribution of Treasury funds and assets by the FED. Without audits of this institution, it makes it all but impossible for the likes of the Financial Services Committee to ensure truth and honesty within our financial system.
I remind you that since the inception of the Fed in 1913, there have been ZERO audits. This is a travesty and a complete disgrace to allow a private banking institution to have free reign of our nations financial system sans accountability.
Without transparency, how can we expect to fix the problem? So again, I would like to urge the members to bring H.R. 1207 to a vote and not let it die in committee. Our country needs this, and our citizens demand it.
Thank you,
”
Thank you for the idea though! I would never have thought to send them anything and now I am one more citizen “knocking at the door” so to speak. Thanks!
Ever since the Kennedy Administration we’ve been saddled with “Federal Reserve Notes”. All that means is that we’re using “bank notes” as a medium of exchange instead of what Constitutionally should be “silver certificates”.
Then in late 1968, President Nixon took us off the “gold standard” and a short time thereafter, all the major bank holding companies bought their own banks. (Funny how that works.)
I sincerely hope that Congress hears the voice of the American people on this issue. I have a difficult time believing that they would do ANYTHING on our behalf. They haven’t done it since world war two!
It will gather more momentum as more come on board.Is that now 10% of congress? I think congress has 500 members.