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John Fitzgerald Kennedy: The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society.
Jive Dadson: That, of course, was the well known voice of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
Hello everybody, Jive Dadson here. I’ve been asked to come out of YouTube semi-retirement to make a video about a very important subject. It’s about your money, and it’s about secrecy.
The Federal Reserve System creates and controls our money, your money. In recent months, private demands under the Freedom of Information Act have been met with the answer, “We won’t tell you, we don’t have to”. In open hearings, Congressmen have asked, “Who is receiving the bailout money?” They were met with the answer, “We won’t tell you, we don’t have to”.
Even though the balance sheet of the Fed has ballooned by trillions of dollars in recent months, they’re right. The law says they don’t have to tell anyone where the newly created money went. You see, when the Fed was created in 1913, its secrecy was written into law, the justification being that secrecy would keep politics out. Does that make any sense to you at all?
Federal Reserve has never had a proper audit, and it never will, unless we demand it. This should concern every American. It’s not about left or right, it’s not about Democrat or Republican, it’s about your security and the wellbeing of your children and grandchildren.
The Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 has wide bipartisan support. Unlike so many bills that go before Congress, it’s simple and it’s open. It’s very short. Nothing is hidden in obscure sections. Its only provisions are a one-time audit of the Federal Reserve System and a report by the Government Accountability Office on their findings.
I urge you to contact your U.S. representative, both to your senators, send them emails, telephone them, send them mail and send them faxes. Do it today, do it tomorrow, do it the day after that. Send them a fax every Friday.
I’d like for you to tell your friends and associates. I would be honored if you sent them a link to this video. However you do it, do it. I’m counting on you. There’s a link in the YouTube “More Info” section to a flyer. It’s perfect for faxing to your representatives in the House or the Senate or for sending them a snail-mail. I want you to do it right now and I want you to send a fax. Do it on Friday.
This is important, I’m counting on you.
Peace.
Read the bill to audit the Fed H.R. 1207 here.
Check if your representative already supports H.R. 1207. If not, contact him or her every Friday by fax, email and/or phone.
Here’s the flyer mentioned in the video (pdf):
Here’s a sample letter you can use:
Dear Representative,
Please co-sponsor and/or support H.R.1207, an effort to audit the Federal Reserve.
Recently, it has come to light that there is little to no accountability to the people on the part of the Federal Reserve. While the citizens of this country are required by law to give an accounting of every penny they come in contact with, the Federal Reserve has never been held to the same standard. During this time of extreme economic crisis, the people deserve an accounting of where our money is going.
Currently there are 46 co-sponsors for this legislation, and it is enjoying bi-partisan support. Your efforts in supporting this important legislation would go a long way in proving to your constituents that you not only hold the Federal Reserve to the same standard as you do your constituents, but it would also show that you believe in transparency. Anything less than support for this resolution suggests that you are in favor of secrecy and a lack of accountability to the people who pay the bills. We pay the tab; we have a right to know where our money is going.
Unlike recent bills that you voted in favor of that had hundreds of pages and just a few hours to read, this bill can be read in under 5 minutes. I encourage you to take the time to read it, and then move to support it.
Thank you in advance for your attention on this important legislation. I have every expectation that you will do right by your constituents and support this measure.
Sincerely,
Look up the fax number or direct phone number of your representative here.
Follow up with a phone call: Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121
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Banksters were named that because of their gangster ways. But it’s actually more accurate to call them money changers. Even the Bible records Jesus’ challenge of them 2000 years ago.
They are clever, sneaky, lying, manipulating Plutocrats who have figured out how to transfer wealth of nations into their coffers and make almost everyone think that’s just the way it’s done.
It’s pretty unreal that they’ve been allowed to get as powerful as they have; but these aren’t just regular folk, I’m afraid. They are very skillful at playing on human fear and greed and ignorance.
In fact, history shows that Rothschild was behind King George’s obsessive need to tax the American colonies into poverty.
King George had some serious debts to pay off; and Rothschild and his cabal (mainly other Rothschilds at the time) had the English king nicely against the wall, since they had also financed George’s European enemies, who were ready to be let loose, fully funded, as the hounds of hell upon England and all its properties should the poor King default.
That is the way of these money changers and I daresay they saw an opportunity to leech wealth from the new America and didn’t waste any time with their designs.
This country, since its inception, has been both a threat and an opportunity to the international money changers, who swear no allegiance to any nation. And, from Adam Smith to Andrew Jackson to Abraham Lincoln to TR, all the way to JFK, American leaders have battled with these money changers.
There are historians who have carefully charted the course taken by the money changers. These have followed the trail of money to see that it was these who funded and abetted wars for their profit – wars throughout history can be traced to these and their pawns.
Many more of us will know a lot more in the next several years; for their schemes will be fully outed, by God’s grace. Only then will America have the opportunity to truly be free; and Americans may earn the opportunity to work out their salvation in peace, honor and liberty.
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Very good my friend!
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i think we should run the moneymasters documentary on every channel during primetime on april 15t i let everyone who doesn’t understand whats happening borrow my copy !!
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It would help, however, the robber barons own the media and would not allow it to happen.
The media is a tool, for these insane crooks, to rally the sheeple into war by shaping public opinion.
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Sean,
I bet you think the banks lend borrowers the money they have in their vaults too. They actually lend the borrower their own money via a promissary note and charge interest on it to boot. So if I take a thousand dollars and place it in an account at the bank, what happens to it Sean? Does the bank lend it to others? Nope. So where does the bank get the money to lend to others?
Think real hard before you answer… Do some research on this fact. So in essence the bank gets something for nothing. Seems to me you would be on the side of the worker rather than the monopolist. And you call yourself a Constitutionalist!
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haha. do you think i’m stupid or something? You have to give banks a deposit, usually 10% down before they put the rest on credit (debt). They do make the rest out of thin air, but thats how money circulates the economy.. A business takes a loan, gives that capital to suppliers, provides his customers, and pays his employees. Then the debt gets paid back, and he will take another loan in the future. It’s what makes the world go around.
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if there wasn’t interest rates it was because the banks were nationalized, and they probably paid for it thru taxes. Someone has to pay for the banks. Nobody does anything for free.
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Only banks do things for free Sean! They make sure they get their free lunch.
Now go back to recess!
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Sean,
Don’t you have to get prepared for Passover! Don’t you have to make some Ashkenazi Haroset?
It is clear to everyone out here that Sean is working for the banks. He claims himself to be a Constitutionalist and an American so that noone attacks him for what he really is. You told on yourself my little eager banker friend.
Spare everyone here of your quibble!
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Wow.
Even the name-calling and bizarre personal attacks on this website has taken a turn for the vile as of late.
These boards were a lot more ‘productive’ a year ago… At least back then people had ‘opposing ideas’ and weren’t labelled ‘terrorists’ or subject to random inferences that smack of anti-semitism.
Maybe after you run out everyone who doesn’t implicity agree and is trying to learn, you will be left with… But you won’t care, so long as at least a few people fervently believe themselves to be morally omnipotent and everyone else to be completely offbase and ethically misdirected, right? I wish it were that easy…
I wish you all the best.
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Actually I don’t think so, I know so. LOL
Your answers are full of errors Sean. Banks do not make the world go around… That is a delusional statement.
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In response to Observer:
What smacks of Anti-Semitic? Explain your statement because I think you assume…
I don’t think I said anything about the semitic people of Palestine… Hmmm. Seems like Observer is trying to create an issue where there is not one.
It is indeed Passover, is it not?
Please spare all of us of your comments about vileness. By the way, do you even know what that recipe represents? Freedom…
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Anti-Semitic defined:
Against those relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.
This word is NOT confined to Jews or Zionists.
Anti-American defined:
Against any and all the principles of FREEDOM that makes this country great.
So with that said I think we can safely assume that my statement above was NOT Anti-Semitic nor Anti-American.
Freedom to people, all people.
If you do not understand why the statement was made simply ask! Never assume as it is foolish.
Everyone here on this site is entitled to their opinions, however, be prepared to defend opinion with FACTS.
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Financial cartel quotes
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933-Nov-21, in a letter to Colonel E. Mandell House
“The Federal Reserve Banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers.”
-Congressman Louis T. McFadde
Well they had a secret meeting at the millionaires club, on Thanksgiving of 1910, at Jekyll Island, Georgia. Which, at that time, the members of the Jekyll Island club controlled one-sixth of the wealth of the entire world. These people were very powerful: Rockefeller, Morgan, Aldrich… The same people, by the way, the same banking houses, which are running the world today, they got together in 1910. And this “federal reserve” was simply a takeover scheme! It was sort of like a Mafia group of chieftains, getting together for the biggest robbery in history! [Interview 2003] by Tom Valentine
Paul Warburg was born in Germany, he was a naturalized American citizen…… the Federal Reserve System was modeled very closely after the Bank of England. It was what the textbooks call a “central bank”. That’s just a code word. It doesn’t really mean anything. It’s not a bank at all……. What it basically is, is a cartel – it’s a partnership between the government and the private banks. ……the cartel went into partnership with the federal government – and cartels like to do that because only governments can enforce the cartel agreements. ……. In this case, the banking cartel was very eager to get the United States government into the contract so that all of the banks – once they were in the cartel – had to follow the cartel agreements or else they would be violating the law and then the police could be brought after them…..cartels always have an affinity to government to enforce their cartel agreement. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
“It finally dawned on me that it really doesn’t make any difference what we know about these problems if we don’t do anything about it. And that led me to the question: what is it that one can do about these things? And up until that time, I had been pretty much following the line that, well, if we are just informed, the truth will set us free. And it finally dawned on me: that is a myth. The truth alone is not going to set anybody free. Truth is often shackled in chains by a tyrannical system. It’s up to the people who know the truth to get off their chairs and do something about it. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
The first thing they were trying to hide at that meeting was the fact that the Federal Reserve System was written BY the money trust. The people who attended that meeting were the epitome of the money trust. These were literally the wealthiest men in the world. When you added up the wealth which was controlled by the seven men who went to that meeting …..they represented, approximately one-fourth of the wealth of the entire world. We’re talking about the J. P. Morgan dynasty, the Rockefeller dynasty, Kuhn Loeb & Company, the Rothschilds from Europe, and the Warburgs from Germany and the Netherlands. These were the people who were represented at that meeting, and they are the ones who created the Federal Reserve System – supposedly – to break the grip of the money trust. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
At the turn of the century, people like Rockefeller and Morgan and Carnegie had decided that since they were at the top of the heap, they didn’t want any more competition. They wanted to put an end to competition. ……when you look at these men sitting around the table at a clubhouse on Jekyll Island, all of a sudden you realize, “Oh my gosh, the Federal Reserve System is a CARTEL.” And that is exactly what it is. It is not a government agency. It is a cartel no different than the banana cartel, the oil cartel, or any other. It just happens to be a banking cartel. That is the second thing that emerges from the study of what happened on Jekyll Island. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
It was Paul Warburg who was a master at all of this. I think he had more experience with this central bank mechanism than all of the rest of them put together. So he was the technician – but also, we mustn’t forget that all throughout his business career he maintained a close relationship with his brother, Max Warburg, who was head of the Warburg Banking Consortium in Germany and the Netherlands. Not only that, he was a senior partner in Kuhn-Loeb & Company, which was one of the giant investment firms in New York, and as such they handled the financial affairs of the Rothschilds. So, he was well-connected at several different levels, as you can imagine. Paul Warburg is really the role model for the Little Orphan Annie caricature called “Daddy Warbucks”. Everybody at the time knew that Paul Warburg was “Daddy Warbucks”. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
In 1913, the Morgans were the dominant American banking influence. Before I say anything more, you should know that J. P. Morgan was really – most biographers say and have said of him – that he was probably an agent of the Rothschilds. Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
So, in any event, in 1913, it was pretty clear that J. P. Morgan – The House of Morgan – was the dominant banking influence. But today, that seems to have shifted to the Rockefellers. There’s no doubt in my mind today that the Rockefellers are the dominant banking force in the United States Interview with G. Edward Griffin, Author of ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’
“… the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.”
-Prof. Carroll Quigley, author of Tragedy and Hope (1966)
“I am now quite sure that Tragedy and Hope was suppressed although I do not know why or by whom”
-Carroll Quigley, in a letter to a friend
“…the increase in the assets of the Federal Reserve Banks from 143 million dollars in 1913 to 45 billion dollars in 1949 went directly to the private stockholders of the [Federal Reserve] banks.”
-Eustace Mullins, The Federal Reserve Conspiracy
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.”
-Thomas Jefferson
“Communism is not [and never was] a creation of the masses to overthrow the Banking establishment, but rather a creation of the Banking establishment to overthrow and enslave the people.”
-Anthony J. Hilder
“Although Communism, like other `isms,’ had origined with Marx’s association with the House of Rothschild, it enlisted the reverent support of John D. Rockefeller because he saw Communism for what it is, the ultimate monopoly, not only controlling the government, the monetary system and all property, but also a monopoly which, like the corporations it emulates, is self-perpetuating and eternal. It was the logical progression from his Standard Oil monopoly.”
-Eustace Mullins, chapter 10 (“The Rockefeller Syndicate”), of Murder by Injection
“These are the rules of big business. They have superseded the teachings of our parents and are reducible to a simple maxim: Get a monopoly; let Society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics, for a legislative grant, franchise, subsidy or tax exemption is worth more than a Kimberly or Comstock lode, since it does not require any labor, either mental or physical, for its exploitation.”
-Frederick C. Howe, in Confessions of a Monopolist (1906)
Source: http://www.whale.to/b/financial_q.html
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You only have to look at history to see what would happen without the Federal Reserve.
1. There would be no nationally controlled monetary policy. Each bank would expand or contract credit based on their immediate business needs, not the nation’s or economy’s requirements.
2. Before 1905, many banks were allowed to issue their own bank notes. These acted as circulating currency and many were easy to counterfeit. There were approximately 30,000 different designs of bank notes in circulation.
3. Smaller banks would be dependent on larger banks for credit extensions, currency, etc. History has shown that larger banks often consider smaller banks as competition and didn’t care if they failed. (After 1935, the Fed was charged with looking after the overall health of the system)
4. In international monetary matters, the nations largest private banks would represent America.
5. There would be no elasticity to the currency. You would see more cycles of inflation/deflation, and boom/bust as we saw in the 1800s. The national banking era is considered to be the time period between 1863 and 1913. During that 50 year period, the nation suffered many financial crises. The most severe ones occurred in 1873, 1884, 1890, 1893, and 1907.
6. In the national banking era, banks were basically unregulated and mostly acted within their own shareholder’s interests. Also, during the national banking era, bank failures were a common occurrence. In fact, there was at least one bank failure every year between 1865 and 1913. Several times, more than 100 banks would fail in a single year. That makes the current credit problem seem like an extremely tame year.
7. There are many services that the Federal Reserve performs that would have to be taken over by the large, private banks. These services, instead of being impartially administered, would revert to being performed at the best interests of the largest banks.
So we really don’t need a Federal Reserve if you prefer what the historical record has shown us.
source: http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?
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Wrong, it would operate the same way as it is now just with different controllers and with NO USURY. The people would make sure there were checks and balances.
Please stop making this more difficult than it is.
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HAHA! There has always been USURY! All banks in the history of banking have charge interest rates. A bank is a business, it has to pay its employees, pay for the land, pay it taxes, etc.
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in fact, the banking interest rates are double or tripple of what the feds interest rates are.
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Sean,
You best research your answers better before you post!
Start with the history of this country before the banksters took over. There was NO usury. We got into our mess with the monopolist because Washington took a loan from the parasitic bankers which then caused a debt for the colonist. Research Colonial SCRIP before making a foolish answer and then being so smug to laugh. The laugh my friend is on you.
So we did not have usury with the Colonial Scrip, Greenbacks, nor with Kennedy’s Executive Order 11110…
Research before posting my friend. The federal gov’t does not charge interest to itself when it prints its own money…
Thanks and have a good day!
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No crap! You mean the banks lend money at a higher interest rate than the rate at which they borrowed it?! It’s almost as if they’re trying to make a profit.
You say you want “change” but it’s merely a word you (like many) throw around. You like the system just as it is. You just think we need the proper philosopher kings in place in order to make the corrupted system function properly. It should be painfully obvious that the system (both domestically and internationally) doesn’t function well at all.
Again, why post here and support Ron Paul when you don’t even vaguely support a dramatic overhaul in US fiscal/monetary/banking policy?
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actually the american revolution was paid for with debt. there has been debt since george washington.
The banks are trying to make a profit with interest rates, i think its wrong. I don’t believe in banks, but if we were to get rid of the fed, the banks would assume their responsibility which would be worse. They would only lend for the interest of the banks instead of the interest for the people.
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PRESIDENT EISENHOWER
“My fellow Americans: …….. we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual-is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power EXISTS and will PERSIST(!!). “ – President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Farewell address 1961.
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PRESIDENT KENNEDY
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen:
……….The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. ……… Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control.
…….. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. …..
…….. with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent. John F. Kennedy, Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961)
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It will be done Cheryl A.The race is now on,since I suspect the Fed will try and create a national emergency situation for Obama to enact Bush’s Patriot Act.Already the tension is creating murders,ie the 14 in NY.It is not the new immigrants who are the threat,it is our own Govts and their financiers.
There are enough intelligent people both in the US forces and Govt to realise what is happening.Obama currently wants a loyal civilian force equal to that of the present armed services.Many are probably waiting to see where the balance of power lies.The Fed has grossly under estimated the power of the WEB and the need for people to be free from oppression.
Politicians can be more easily corrupted than those bred in the tradition of defence.Lawyers can justify anything.
The Fed has set in motion the seeds of their own destruction.May their totalitarian reign end soon.
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Ross, well said; and I agree, they have entirely underestimated the sleeping giant of the American spirit of Liberty. The Beast that is the FED and the international banking cartel behind it, is in its death throes and it doesn’t even know it. But, a word of caution to the wise is sufficient, because cornered beasts are at their most dangerous.
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FBG,
All one has to do is study RAT behavior to know that, right? Rats and bankers have a lot in common…. LOL
I am glad to see there are some intelligent folks out here! After we tackle our problem here in the USA the world must follow. The next problem will be to expose the Grand Council of International Finance as the big cheese behind the rats.
I feel a MOVEMENT happening. Don’t get distracted by all these so-called shootings people. The press is being paid to distract you as we all know that shootings have occurred since the invention of the gun. We all are smart enough to realize that if you push for disarmament that this will lead to a government take over. Not to forget to mention that the criminals will have guns to kill us with. We need our guns to protect our country. It is criminal minds that kill innocent people not the average gun carrying citizen.
No more Constitutional rights to be taken away! It is our right to bear Arms…
Let me not stray from the true problem here in America and abroad and that is the controllers of our money supply…
Enact Executive Order 11110 and let us not forget President Kennedy’s wish to liberate the world from these parasites!
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Cheryl A., I signed on to scribd today because of you, and invited you to be friends. Hope that’s OK. Looks like I’ll be busy the next few nights digesting all of the incredibly well written material on your page.
Don’t get me started about the 2nd Amendment. You can have my gun (one of three) when you’ve managed to pry it from cold, stiff fingers.
The RATS are cornered indeed. Now we need to spray ‘em with RAT poison and watch ‘em twitch and die. I won’t be shedding any tears.
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Not a problem. I especially like the book by Ben Green, Shakespeare and Goethe on Gresham’s Law. Absolutely a necessary read…
If you can suggest any books that I have not listed please do so. All the books that I have on my site I have read. I only post what I feel is close to the truth in regards to history.
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Actually Cheryl I was going to do a satire entitled,
“Doorat Searches for Bankerstan.” Doorat comes from Tasjerkistan and wants to find this mythical place where all the monies are made, but the banksters won’t let him join because he is such an idiot and will blow their cover.
Anyone with funny ideas is allowed to join in.Just throw me some ideas and I’ll do it.
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Ross,
I am glad you have a sense of humor my friend. We all need to keep that spirit within us as it makes others smile!
Cheryl
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At the G20 talk fest,it was announced that there would be no more bank secrecy.So why does not Obama support HR 1207 to audit the Fed?
Sean,”I’m real into engineering..” Really? You need an -ly and thus an adverb to qualify your verb ‘into’.Luckily,you are into how things work and not how they interact.
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Ross,
I believe he has his hand in the ol’ CFR cookie jar!
http://www.larsonsworld.com/library/articles/tschauf_fedres.html
Spread this far!!!
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omg ross, that was obviously a typo. Thats funny because you have horrible grammer. YOu don’t even put spaces inbetween your sentences. Why don’t you say something intelligent and subject related, instead of picking out grammer. That is a sign of weakness.
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come on now
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I’m actually writting a paper right now on Niccolo Machiavelli. Do you even know who that is?
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Sean,
You are obviously giving false information out here for a reason. What is your motive my friend? Everyone that has read any true history knows that NO USURY means NO DEBT.
As far as oil is concerned my friend OPEC is not trading OIL for OIL. Oil is NOT the medium of exchange. Is it being fought for? YES. It is a resource that everyone wants and needs, but it is only part of the problem. The controllers are indeed the problem.
Read about how much OPEC gets for a barrel of oil compared to the robber barons!
These rich elitist must go in order for every country to get their fair share of the wealth.
Tell me Sean why are we in Afghanistan? Do you believe in boogey men (terrorist)? Or is it a pipeline issue? Or is it the poppy fields and heroine? Or both?
All wars have been fought for these robber barons! For what? So they can steal resources…
AUDIT the Fed Reserve and its cronies NOW. Let us see where their money is coming and going. If found guilty of being traitors then we should hang them all… That is what we do in a REPUBLIC to safeguard it from future cabals!
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haha what? i never said OPEC is trading oil for oil. I bet we are in afghanistan for many reasons. Its not the fed who invaded afghanistan! Lets get one thing straight, before the government started borrowing from other countries, they were borrowing from us. Its either the fed helps fund the government, or we can fund the government through our 401k’s.. so i’m guessing you would rather the government take money from us instead of other countries?. THe governments going to spend money either which way… Maybe you don’t have any money saved up, but the rest of the country does and would prefur the government not borrow from it… I’m not giving false information, this is general knowledge. You just read what you want to read..
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Sean, Sean, Sean,
You are suppose to be college educated, correct? I think I prefer “prefer” over perfur. The subjects that we are speaking of are not a laughing matter. I find people that do not know tend to resort to criticism and sarcasim. Both brothers to ignorance.
Now, as a matter of fact you did state that oil was the problem… Hence why the explanation was given about oil not being an exchange medium. This country can survive without the income tax as well as other taxes. I don’t have time in a day to educate you on everything that you keep bringing into this conversation. Your ideas speak loudly of your motives.
If you cannot keep from stooping to childish name callings I suggest you take it to another forum.
We are here to educate the public on the banking system. 401K’s are not for governments to spend. It is called individual investments. Why do you care so much about what amount someone has in the bank? Are you a hacker? If none of us have savings it is because the robber barons stole it from us. By the way none of our income (excise) taxes go to the federal gov’t. I don’t have time to explain to you the meaning of exporting more than importing… This country is in need of cash flow because we import more than we export. And many other things that affect GNP, GDP, etc….
Good day to you!
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Thank you very much!! you just supported half of what i was saying. “This country is in need of cash flow because we import more than we export.” – Cheryl A.. That statement directly supports the stimulus bill and fiat currency.. Fiat is an elastic currency that helps create cash flow..
I’m sorry, i was talking about social security instead of 401k which the government does borrow against when they don’t borrow from other countries.
I never said that oil was a medium for exchange. I said that we import 500 billion dollars worth of oil and it effects trade, monetary and foreign policy.
The federal reserve has nothing to do with income taxes. Income taxes come from the IRS which is completly different. The IRS is apart of the government unlike the fed, and is used to fund the government.. In fact, the federal reserve is a non profit organization and gives profit to the treasury. This is a well known fact. The treasury and fed go hand on hand. THey work closely together. you should read this to correctly learn the roles of each organization.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/treasury-fed-reserve.asp
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Sean,
I am suggesting we enact Executive Order 11110.
Social Security was and is not an answer to our problems. The above statement is the solution pure and simple!
The IRS is a collection agency for the Fed. Reserve. It was an agency that was birthed right after the Fed Reserve Act for the sole purpose of collecting on a fraudulent debt perpetrated by the Fed. Reserve. Do you even know why the 1040 IRS Form is called a 1040? Think about it.
No one is saying to come away from FIAT. I am saying to take away the powers of the Fed. Reserve and enact Executive Order 11110. It is that simple! If you notice I have stated NOT to go back to the Gold Standard.
The whole argument here is to take away the power of the Fed. Reserve. It is our Constitutional right to print and coin our own dang money. No USURY means No Debt…
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The Internal Revenue Service is a bureau of the DEPARTMENT of the TREASURY under the immediate direction of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner has general superintendence of the assessment and collection of all taxes imposed by any law providing internal revenue. The Internal Revenue Service is the agency by which these functions are performed.
– 26 C.F.R. section 601.101(a).
We need the federal reserve to finance our overseas spending, without them the system would collapse. Its that dry and simple. I could sit here and talk about money all day, but i would rather not.. Someone has to finance banking, and i would prefur the government not step up and take that roll for the sake of our liberty.. I do believe that there was once both good and evil in the federal reserve, but that was generations ago. The federal reserve has many members and many rules. They can’t take money and put it into their own bank account, they aren’t even allowed to choose their own investments. Its not just one mind, they have to vote on the policies they make. Its a business, not some magic money land.. Ron paul and other people including myself don’t believe in central banking because we don’t believe it works.. The only difference is that Ron paul thinks we should force ourselves to live within our means and lower our standars of living by getting rid of the fed. I believe we should make a transition where we will be able to keep high standards of living within our means.
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You should look up protectionism to understand the what i would like to see happen.
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Try steward for the U.S. government… Get your facts straight Sean.
Enact Executive Order 11110 NOW. WE are in no need of a private organization handling our affairs as they have no allegiance to this once GREAT REPUBLIC.
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If its against the law than it will hold up in court. Thats the beauty about this country. And it was against the law, so that sucks for them.
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In addition to contacting your repsentative everyone should be contacting the Financial Services committee to urge them to act on H.R. 1207 and not let it die in committee. Here is a sample letter.
“I would like to urge the Financial Services Committee to conduct a hearing on H.R. 1207. As a citizen I believe that this legislation is of the utmost importance to the health of our financial system. Accountability and responsibility is demanded, today more than ever, by the American citizens. This is especially true for those at the highest levels of government and non government agencies. Because there are absolutely no transparency requirements for this private banking institution, through audits, we the people are unable to believe that our best interests are kept in mind when it comes to the distribution of Treasury funds and assets by the FED. Without audits of this institution, it makes it all but impossible for the likes of the Financial Services Committee to ensure truth and honesty within our financial system. I remind you that since the inception of the Fed in 1913, there have been ZERO audits. This is a travesty and a complete disgrace to allow a private banking institution to have free reign of our nations financial system sans accountability. Without transparency, how can we expect to fix the problem? So again, I would like to urge the members to bring H.R. 1207 to a vote and not let it die in committee. Our country needs this, and our citizens demand it. Thank you, ”
The website for the FCS is www.http://financialservices.house.gov/
House Financial Services Committee
Democratic Staff
2129 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Ph: (202) 225-4247
Fax: (202) 225-6952
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Thanks Joe!
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Just an interesting insight.Sean predominately spells “labour” thus,instead of US spelling labor.This is an English origin.Could Sean have Rothschild’s ancestory? Are you Sean,working for the Bank of England?
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OMG! your soooooo stupid.
Dictionary
Labour- productive work, esp. physical work done for wages
labor- Physical or mental exertion, especially when difficult or exhausting;
“You are correct in a way… Labour is value and money is given for labor, therefore labour gives money value.” – Sean
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hahahaha, you wanna talk about correct english?
“Sean is seems is neither fool or foil.” – Ross
I’ve taken three english classes in college.. Did you even finish high school?
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LMAO!! do you even know what predominate means??????????
If your trying to say that i’m speaking with great power and influence, than I should take that as a complement.
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Now don’t get too frustrated Sean.Isn’t the greatest perpetration of socialism happening right now with the bailing out of banks with tax payer debt? If you cannot see the injustice Sean,you just cannot grasp the totality of your own foibles.
You fill your blogs with endless prattle,and try to substitute voluminous,boring monologues for deep insight,hoping to deflect attention from things of substance.
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HAHAHAHA! your complaining about the government being socialistic and bailing out the banks, yet you want the government to be socialistic and take over the banks.. smart guy
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You do know why we fought the American Revolution? It was not so much a separation from England but a fight for independence from the banksters. Most do not know this…
There is nothing Socialistic about following the Constitution my friend! It is called being a Republican defending this REPUBLIC.
And please do not come back with anything in regards to political parties. My statement above has NOTHING to do with the Republi-CANT party.
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I’ve heard that before, but i seriously doubt its true. i’m studying that time period right now in a history class. People moved here to get away from the church, which ruled the land. This is right after the reformation period when everyone began to focus on individual liberty. John Locke played a huge role in his philosophy about civil societies. Niccolo machiavelli defined new age politics and helped turn Florentine into a republic after the Medici Family. This is right after the time when science started to dominate man and people demanded a seperation between politics and the church. It was A HUGE DEAL back then. They didn’t care about the banks, they cared about people taking their money thru taxes. “one should keep the fruit of their labor.”
And it does not say in the constitution that the government should nationalize the banks. If you knew anything about liberty and money, thomas jefferson got rid of the nationalized banks because it was SOCIALIST. There is no way republicans would ever nationalize the banks. Democrats would nationalize the banks before republics would, because it is the exact opposite of a free market.. I’m a constituionalist, not a republican, not a democrat, and not a libertarian. I believe in Americanism.
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Who said the Constitution said anything about nationalizing banks Sean? I sure didn’t. I said we were given the POWER to print and coin money and regulate foreign coinage per the Constitution.
The key word in your statement is that you are studying HISTORY in SCHOOL. LOL. I guess we should just forget about what our founding fathers said about why the American Revolution happened. Try reading what Benjamin Franklin said was the true reason for this revolt. The church issue was just a distraction just like it is today! Don’t even get me started on the convert or die crusades… Uggghhhhh.
Anyway, you should believe in being an individual before any of those other terms you used. Otherwise join the herd mentality because those terms have been used to rally people to war.
What is it to be patriotic? Are you called a pacifist because you detest war? What does it take to be a Constitutionalist? Taking parts of it or all of it. You claim to be a Constitutionalist but yet are arguing with those that are. I find that amusing.
If you are a Constitutionalist then you know the threat to our Republic by placing our power to print money in the hands of a few elitist that have NO allegiance to this country! History proclaims these parasites as criminals…
By the way, you keep throwing out the term Socialist and I want to make it clear to you that this country is already Communist. Look up the Ten Planks of Communism my friend and try to argue a moot point. Like the old saying goes, “You cannot win an argument with someone armed with ignorance!” Socialism leads to Communism and democracies just lead the way!
Enact Executive Order 11110 NOW.
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Thats funny. this elitist your talking about grew up on a farm in south carolina. He has parents who opened a small business and a sister who is a music teacher.. He waited tables thruought college and then became a teacher at princeton university..
Who do you want to be in charge of the banking sytem?
Political Freedom and religious tollerence were the main two reasons why people immigrated to america. They also wanted a better economic oppertunity. The Bank of England or central bank wasn’t even created till a hundred years after people started immigrating here. Most people immigrated here from countries that did not have a central bank.. Maybe you should take some history classes.
I would call myself a constituionalist because i believe in the rule of law..
We’re not communist or socialist because the government does not profit off of any business. Instead we are obliged into social contracts. We pay taxes to fund schools, the post office, the poice, and to build roads and highways.
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Sean is seems is neither fool or foil.He is a tool.He is either a tool of the Fed or has shares in the debauchery the Fed is perpetrating at this moment.This $1.4 trillion package that the G20 has insigated will just add to inflation and put the Global Res Banking system in a position of even more power.
By the way Sean,a tool in our country has several meanings.Tool as in phallus,come financial masturbator.You would sell your fellow Americans down the tube to satisfy your own avarice!Have a good look in the mirror tonight and dwell upon what you have become.
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haha, whatever. your a socialist
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you dont understand anything. You don’t understand how government or money works.. You must watch fox news because i was watching the channel that was interviewing the sec. of treasury who was strongly opposing world bank regulations for the sake of our sovereignty…. haha he’s also against socialism
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Key word here is FOX news… There is your problem. You are getting your education via the media. LOL
The hell with the media! They are nothing more than prostitutes…
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bla ha bla
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Last year oil represented 2/3 of our trade deficit…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Trade.svg
“The United States has posted a trade deficit since the late 1960s (and trade deficits in the late 1960s forced the US off the so-called gold standard in 1971), and it has been rapidly increasing since 1997 [28] (See chart). The US trade deficit hit a record high of 817.3 billion dollars in 2006, up from 767.5 billion dollars in 2005.” -wikipedia
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Keep pushing for the Fed. to be audited! We have some momentum, must not let up.
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None of us should give up until these criminals are behind bars! I won’t be satisfied with some measly fine either. It is time these boys get tried for HIGH TREASON and we know what they do to traitors in prison!
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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Asian_Economy/GD09Dk01.html
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For anyone interested in knowing why we cannot go back to the Gold Standard it is called Gresham’s Law:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/245850/Greshams-law
So stop pushing for us to go back to the Gold Standard. These controllers of our money are wanting a NEW CASHLESS system in place and if they get us to go back to GOLD it will prove to be a failure and they will bring about their solution which is a new cashless society.
WE need a movement to get an indictment against these ROBBER BARONS and try them for HIGH TREASON. IT is the only way to release ourselves from our bondage. If they succeed in placing their new cashless system in place I will gurantee you you will relinguish any freedoms you have left.
The solution since we know it works is to take away the powers from the robber barons and place those printing of money powers back into the hands of our gov’t. We are the government people!
Stay on tract and do not stray from this push! They will get nervous and come up with distractions people. Be prepared for them as they always have something up their sleeves. Stay focused on the real issues and be leary of any propaganda coming from the TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, etc. All these news media are controlled by the money powers.
ENACT Executive Order 11110 NOW!
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There is no such thing as “THE Gold Standard”. No one is suggesting we go back to the gold standards of the past. Although it would be nice to see the Constitution respected and have gold and silver as payments of debts. The best thing to do would be to promote free market competition in banking and money production. See what people WANT to use as money instead of FORCING them to use paper bills of credit.
Also, you misunderstand Gresham’s Law. The bad money (fiat money) only drives out the good money (commodity money) if the bad money is overvalued as a result of legal tender laws or some other government manipulation. If the money production market is free, the good money will win.
http://mises.org/money/3s5.asp
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Gresham’s Law works in the same way as with bi-metalism. I don’t have to mention that it was because of the Mexican silver coming into this country that created gold to go out of it.
I mention not going back to a Gold Standard simply because I have heard Ron Paul speak of it as well as some posters here.
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That is just one example by the way…
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Yeah but that happened because of bimetallism, which is a form of price fixing. They fixed the price of silver to gold. That’s a no-no and allows Gresham’s law to take effect. No one is saying to go back to bimetallism with FIXED exchange rates between silver and gold. When people say “go back to a gold standard” they usually mean “return to commodity/commodity backed money. Remove legal tender laws. Allow the market to function (encourage competition) in money production”. A full explanation doesn’t lend itself well to short interviews or internet forums.
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Actually I should be fair and state Sir Gresham’s law correctly and that is add the word DEBASED to it.
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http://www.archive.org/stream/goldstandard189500golduoft
The Gold Standard did exist… Or else Gresham’s Law wouldn’t be an argument…
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http://www.archive.org/stream/internationalbim00gibbuoft
Gresham’s Law and BiMetallism.
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Yeah. Rothbard deals with that in the chapter i linked. No argument here.
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“Although Communism, like other `isms,’ had origined with Marx’s association with the House of Rothschild, it enlisted the reverent support of John D. Rockefeller because he saw Communism for what it is, the ultimate monopoly, not only controlling the government, the monetary system and all property, but also a monopoly which, like the corporations it emulates, is self-perpetuating and eternal. It was the logical progression from his Standard Oil monopoly.”
-Eustace Mullins, chapter 10 (“The Rockefeller Syndicate”), of Murder by Injection
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“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933-Nov-21, in a letter to Colonel E. Mandell House
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“These are the rules of big business. They have superseded the teachings of our parents and are reducible to a simple maxim: Get a monopoly; let Society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics, for a legislative grant, franchise, subsidy or tax exemption is worth more than a Kimberly or Comstock lode, since it does not require any labor, either mental or physical, for its exploitation.”
-Frederick C. Howe, in Confessions of a Monopolist (1906)
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Surely it cannot be unpatriotic to urge upon Americans:
“Make it thy business to know thyself, which is the most difficult lesson in the world.” Jennings C. Wise
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People of the world,
It has been brought to our attention that the President of the United States has decided to further the war in Afghanistan by sending more troops overseas to assist in the capture of an unknown enemy called terrorist. We have yet had anyone in the White House that can define who this enemy really is except that he/she/they have been labeled terrorist. Not only have the people of the United States been labeled as domestic terrorist but we now have a new president labeling those in other countries that are defending their countries from a foreign threat terrorist. When we take up arms in this country to defend her from a foreign threat will we be labeled as such?
These wars were created in the minds of the rich. War is indeed a racket. We have heard lip service from President Obama about regulating and investigating banks. Well, there is no need Mr. President to investigate the banking cabal as it has been written in history of their doings. Just pick up any book on banking starting before 1913 and you will have all the evidence you need. Not only that but the words directly quoted from these parasites on their intentions on ruling the world under a New World Order. What does this a World a New that President Obama keeps speaking of entail? What of this “new” New Deal he keeps speaking of? The last New Deal brought us enslavement by robbing us of our true Constitutional rights and giving us privileges. How many of you know that there is no social security trust fund? How many of you know that this program at its inception was voluntary, but now is mandatory? How many of you know that it can be taken away in a split second by an ACT of Congress?
We have been arguing under the wrong piece of paper (Constitution). We as a people have to write our own Constitution. This “new” Declaration of True Freedom should be written by the laborers in this country and not by a handful of aristocrats with a motive behind the legal terms.
We, the people of the world, must realize in order to get our fair share in this present life time we will have to be outspoken and courageous. It does not take war to bring about a change. It takes persistence to the cause. What exactly is our cause and need for action? The cause is simply that the power of the people has been given to a few rich elitist on a silver platter by those that get money for passing acts in Congress. What is the problem with LOBBYIST? Simply put, it is an unfair advantage and goes against every principle that America stands for. Corporate financing of ACTS should be outlawed by the people. This takes power from the people and hands it over to the Capitalist. We exchange our labor (real wealth) for debt. Corporation get the benefit of our labor but yet pay us in debt. The people have to record this income every year to the Federal Reserve’s collection agency (IRS), however, corporations get to write off what they pay you in debt. This is an unfair contract. Contracts are to be written in such a way that they benefit both parties.
I have not heard one politician tackle the problem of CORPORATE power. I have not heard one politician tackle the problem of MONOPOLIES. I have heard only propaganda in regards to the FIAT MONETARY SYSTEM.
What shall we tackle first Mr. President? How do we tackle the money problem and advance the country once more into WAR? Who is paying for this war? Who is printing more money for this gov’t to go and/or continue this senseless WAR? Who is gaining in this one sided contract? The country must wake up and realize that every damn war that this country has fought has been under a farce. This country’s profiteers benefit. The people in this country suffer. It is our sweat that made this country great! It was our labor that was stolen and given to the capitalist.
WE have several problems that need to be fixed and all of these would put this economy back on track. Not only our economy but the world’s economy.
Take back the printing of our own money without interest.
Place those banking cartels in prison for HIGH TREASON.
Place any Congressional Member in prison for selling out the people of this country and placing our nation at risk for a foreign take over.
No more aristocrats in office.
No more legal terms and trickery when deciphering the rights of man under the Constitution.
No more Secret Societies, Skull and Bones (Thules Society), Jesuits, Zionist, etc. in this country unless they are willing to be publicly known as such.
No more tax free churches. All church property is to be taxed.
No more Catholic interferences in our politics. Any religion to be found tampering with political matters is to be tried for treason.
No more dumbing down of our children. Free Public Schools with REAL teachers not Behavior Modifiers.
No more corporate powers in politics. No more LOBBYIST.
No more monopolies.
No more Jewish councils.
No more African American councils.
No more Anglo-Saxon councils.
No more of “any groups” tampering with politics, period.
The people of America will vote on NEW ACTS and LAWS. A council with a person from each state votes as a voice of the people before a law/act gets enacted.
Rescind the Patriot Act.
No more intrusions into foreign affairs.
No more supporting Israel.
No more support for any country that kills for territory.
No more foreign aid to countries that commit genocide.
No more arms sales to our supposed enemies.
No more spying on the citizens of this country.
Disperse all funds of those found for HIGH TREASON to the people in the form of a stimulus check. The money that was stolen belongs to the people that it was stolen from and that is the workers.
Everyone has a right to property. Absorbent property tax will cease. Property tax will be based on INCOME not accessed value of said property. Everyone knows that with the controllers in power that INCOME fluctuates. Everyone knows that interest on those loans (ARMS) fluctuates. Hence why most lose their homes during economic downturns.
All political members paid by the people will write a letter each quarter on what they have accomplished for the people. Based on what he/she has accomplished will be their pay. No more pay increases on whims.
If the people have to suffer due to no one in Congress having the guts to go up against the ROBBER BARONS so shall Congressional PAY suffer.
Note: I stated that there will be no more free tax breaks for churches. Why? Simply because these churches claim their principles from the Bible and if I am not mistaken the Bible insist on their being meek. How can one be meek and acquire such extreme wealth? The people are tired of every blood sucker in office and those claiming their glory from God.
Why is it that the Pope sticks his nose in our politics? Why should we listen to him as it was the Catholic Church behind many of the holocausts? These people are still murdering in the name of their God. I am for one sick of religion and politics. Anything that divides the human race is NOT of God. What role did they play during Hitler’s reign? Did they stop the killing of Christians and Jews? NO.
I ask the people of this country why anyone would listen to a church that has amassed a wealth that could feed the world’s hungry but yet has not done so.
Religion is always a touchy subject just as politics is, however, it must be tackled. No religion interference in our politics. This means no more Pope visits period… What good has he ever done? Has he ever appeared during peace time? Or is it that he has a vested interest in war?
Who burned the Alexandrian library? Why did the SS during Hitler’s reign burn books? Why is America banning and censoring books? Is not for the individual to make up his/her mind on what is appropriate for a child or him/herself to read? What knowledge are they hiding?
How many of you know what a Concordat is? How many of you know that the USA has signed a Concordat with the Vatican? How many of you know the reason why the USA has a nuncio in Washington, D.C.?
Religion has never kept a war from happening. In fact, most wars are started by religious differences and in the name of God. So my point is that we don’t need religion in our politics period.
My creator is not one created by man. He is not into human/animal sacrifices or tithing. He/she has no color, nationality, gender, race, culture, etc. He/she has no use for such things.
We are all chosen people. There is NOT one human being more special than the next.
Soldiers and policemen/women would you trade a blown off limb for the cause of making the rich richer? How about a medal of honor pinned to your chest after you have had your face blown off for the cause of making a monopolist richer? Would you trade your birthright for priviledges? Why then are you working for the fascist pigs in power today? You are no longer fighting for your Constitutional rights! You are fighting a so-called enemy named terrorism under Corporate Law! You are brainwashed puppets for the robber barons… It is not the robber baron’s chestnuts in the fire when they decide to declare war… It is not their sons and daughters being blown up or blinded or maimed… It is the laborer that gets the fake dollar for his production. It is the coal miners productivity that gets stolen from him/her.
I know I was once a puppet.
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One word, Cheryl — WOW!! You have nailed it. The fallen ones in Church and State, quake at your statement of Truth. They shall not pass!
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The word Conspiracy defined for Sean:
An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
A group of conspirators.
Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.
The word in intself is NOT bad. It is when the word is acted upon. This word definetly defines the people in control of our money supply, does it not Sean…
You are calling the wrong people Conspiracy NUTS my friend. When a person or a group of people decide to lift the veil of the conspirators this does not make them CONSPIRACY NUTS it makes them heros my friend. Those behind the crippling of our economy are the conspiracy nuts.
When Americans and people from around the world lift the veil of those criminals conspiring against their freedoms it is not to be defined by those not in the know to call them conspiracy nuts but for those in the know to call them heros…
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One more thing on the topic of New Deal:
Roosevelt’s New Deal was socialistic in nature and was NOT the answer to America’s problem. The problem then was the controllers of our money supply just like it is today. The Social Security System (New Deal) was just a smoke screen to the real problem. If Roosevelt was smart he would have realized that keeping these controllers in control of the money supply just perpetuated the problem. The New Deal just swept the problem under the rug.
Now Obama is talking of a new “New Deal” which I believe will do the same dang thing and that is sweep the problem of the controllers under the rug!
America needs everyone in this country to be leaders. Don’t follow someone, lead the way… Obama is just another Fed Reserve puppet just like the rest. Do you think for one minute that these people that are in power of the money supply are going to just leave? Heck no. They are going to put puppets in place so that they continue to destroy economies just to gain power.
I say this to Obama: If you are for the people enact Executive Order 11110 and return the power to the people.
No more smoke screens Mr. President. No more trickery. No more secrets. No more CFR’s. No more Secret Societies. No more Rockefellers, Morgans, Rothchilds, Astors, etc. No more Federal Reserve…
Open the markets for true competition. Put FREE back in Free trade. No more war tariffs.
Power to the people! The people helped build this country with sweat and blood.
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All true; and of course Obama won’t be reading this. I would add that FDR couldn’t be any smarter than he was – for the wrong reasons. He knew what he was doing. The theatrics were just that – good theater – for public consumption.
You know, he almost became our King. I can’t stand FDR. He actually knew about the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor – and let it happen!!! So that Americans would clamor for war. He was an abomination.
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I am in total agreement with you! FDR is praised by those not in the know, however, give those same people a taste of truth and they are willing to kill the messenger… Mob mentality rules when you have idiots like Rockefeller in control of the media and the book publishers…
When the crap hits the fan and these bankers are found guilty of HIGH TREASON I think we should hang them all!
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I’ll pull the lever on the trap doors … gladly.
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I just read an article on how the French (Anti-war protesters) were protesting Obama’s visit and how Michele dodged them on her way to see France’s first lady and I had to laugh… They should have thrown stones at them.
The world has had enough of selected puppets. I just wonder if Michele has figured it out that her husband was a selected dupe instead of being so-called elected by the American population???? I say this because of her so-called infamous speech on being a proud American for the first time in her life… LMAO. She should have been proud when Kennedy came out against the shadow gov’t as well as when Martin Luther King made it publicly known as well as Malcom X, etc. There have been many public known figures that had the guts to say it loudly and proudly…
If you have no guts then you are a follower and not a true leader…
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I think the world is waking up! Thanks go out to our French anti-war protesters… Keep up the good work.
No more WAR!
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are you joking? most of the world LOVES obama. They give them hope. He unites people. Just look at this picture.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/02/g-20-leaders-goof-around_n_182307.html
I doubt you know who any of these people are.
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Sean, Sean, Sean,
One must wonder about your motives my friend. Let me put it as plain as I can:
Oil is NOT a medium of exchange and is NOT the problem with our economy. Oil is just one industry in this economy…
Money is NOT the root either… IT is the “controllers” of our money supply that create inflation, deflation, contractions, expansions, depressions, repressions, oppressions, etc. What happens when these bankers decide to flood the market with new money? What happens to the prices? When they drop too low what happens to businesses? Are you following me?
These MONOPOLISTS that are in control of our money supply are in control of major industries because of what they do to the economy… I have not even started on Wall Street. Who controls Wall Street? It is NOT any particular industry my friend that affects the economy. These industries are just economic indicators for the avg. Joe Blow who wants to invest in the market, however, it is always a gamble because these idiots (Controllers) know when a war will happen and when it will end. What happens during war time Sean? Alot of people (workers) lose their assets because they invest and take a risk on Wall Street! And Wall Street just waits for the right time to sucker them out of their pensions, 401K’s, investments, etc., period… There are alot of Congressional members that get kick backs from lobbyist groups and these kick backs get invested in Wall Street… This is why some Congessional members walk away from politics with millions… Let me not start on Cheney’s deals with Haliburton or Bush’s dealings with the Carlyle Group!
These politicians that invest in businesses outside of politics have a good reason to defend the Federal Reserve as it is their meal ticket. Little do they know that they can lose their butts just like the little guy. Rarely does it ever happen though unless some rich tycoon needs a fall guy…
So the monopolist must go! We need to end this bull that is going on as it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer…
I say we need to audit Rockefeller’s bank accounts personally as well as all members of Congress. Let us see where this money is coming and going.
It is NOT right that these Monopolist can sell ARMS to a supposed enemy country. Our soldiers then are fighting a lost cause as they are fighting not for freedom of a country but for none other than the MONOPOLIST. Lots of money to be made in WAR. Who pays the price? The soldier that was duped into believing he was fighting for FREEDOM when in actuality it was for the rich elitists (MONOPOLISTS).
What ever happened to “NO more American Blood will be Shed on Foreign Soil”? What a joke? There will blood as long as these A-Holes are in charge of our money supply! There will more blood shed in the name of industry! Who controls the money supply controls the economy! And what is an “economy” Sean? Look it up.
So the root is the CONTROLLERS of our money supply. Money supply affects the industries which affects the economy…
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oil is not the problem of our economy???? did you know that the problem of our economy came from negative amortization. THe federal reserve raised interest rates 13 times in 2004 to combat the rising price of oil. DO you know whyyyy the price of oil is so important to maintain? because it effects core inflation. Core inflation is the basic way to messure inflation. The price of energy and food effects all other prices. We consume close to 500 billion dollars worth of oil a year.. Thats not just some industry. Its the largest industry in the world. Oil is controled by MONOPOISTS.. The federal reserve makes it possible to consume oil. Without the federal reserve, you wouldn’t be able to get in your car and go to work, or you wouldn’t have food. You pretty much wouldn’t be able to survive, so the federal reserve is keeping you alive. I’m sorry if you don’t understand this. Like i said, maybe you should take economics if you want to understand how money works, just like you would take an engineering class to find out how how a building is built, or how the engine of a car is designed to function… Why do you think all economists are telling us to become energy independent? Why do you think thats obamas major goal? Do you think you or anyone else here knows more than the president?
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Right now i’m reading plato’s “the republic.” what book are you reading? I’m real into philosophy and I do mechanical engineering for a living. I enjoy understanding why and how everything works, instead of sitting on the computer watching conspiracy movies.
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Heh. That explains it. We just need the proper philosopher kings in power and then everything will be fine.
You gotta understand that economies are not mechanic. Rather, they are organic. Aristotle was closer to the truth than Plato in this respect.
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You gotta understand that nothing you say matters because you think we can spend 500 billion dollars a years on oil with a limited supply of money. that is the dumbest thing ever.
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Good one. Don’t answer my points, straw man an argument, and demonstrate your complete misunderstanding of economics and money all in two sentences. Bravo!
Money is wealth! We can just print money to pay for all the oil we need!
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and yes we can and do print money to pay for all of the oil we need.
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You dont even know what your talking about. Mises was inspired by Plato and shares the same views on the divison of labor. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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You should study quantum physics so you will learn how stress effects your health. I don’t want you to get a heart attack over there.. Read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1401923119/bookstorenow348-20
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Ahahahahahahaha!!! No doubt stress effects one’s health. But study quantum physics in order to understand that relationship? Ahahahahahahahahah.
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i was being sarcastic, u must be a dumb ass if you couldn’t tell.
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Tsk Tsk…again with the insults. Apologies for not catching your sarcasm. Rest assured, I am utterly embarrassed because I’m sure I’m one of the only people to ever not detect sarcasm on an internet forum. It is often difficult to know when a person is being sarcastic when you do not have the advantage of hearing the person’s tone of voice. Also, you constantly spout nonsense about most everything else. For example, inflation is a general rise in prices, oil is the root of our economic ills, austrian economics is more of a microeconomic science, without the fed you wouldn’t be able to get into your car and go to work or you wouldn’t have food, etc. All of these are on par with “study quantum physics to understand how stress effects your health”. So yeah…
Gotta tell ya though, I’m quite happy everyone here can see right through your gibberish.
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“economics, inflation is a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time.” – Wikipedia
“The rate increase was the 11th straight since June 2004 as Alan Greenspan and other central bankers seek to keep inflation under control.” – CNN THey are talking about oil by the way.
“Austrian School economists advocate strict adherence to methodological individualism – analyzing human action from the perspective of individual agents.[citation needed] Proponents of this method, praxeology, argue that the only means of arriving at a valid economic theory is to derive it logically from basic principles of human action.” -Wikipedia
“Because supplies of oil and gas are essential to modern agriculture techniques, a fall in global oil supplies could cause spiking food prices and unprecedented famine in the coming decades.[31][note 1] Geologist Dale Allen Pfeiffer contends that current population levels are unsustainable, and that to achieve a sustainable economy and avert disaster the United States population would have to be reduced by at least one-third, and world population by two-thirds.” -Wikipedia
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Asian_Economy/GD09Dk01.html
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That definition of inflation is incorrect. You even said you would start using the correct definition. That is, inflation is an expansion in the supply of money/credit. Very disingenuous of you to now revert back to the (what you know to be) wrong definition.
It is true that Austrian Economics concerns itself with human action. But this in no way suggests it is “more of a microeconomic science”. The Austrian Business Cycle Theory is as macroeconomic as you can get.
Your beliefs about oil being our God and your beliefs about alternative energy being essential to the future prosperity of this country demonstrate your muddled thinking and a complete inability to put two and two together. Your concern is not about oil but rather about energy. If we can just print money to pay of cheap oil there is not nearly as much incentive for individuals to invest in conservation and alternative energy technology. If oil was honestly priced according to supply and demand, we would likely be paying much more for oil and if the protections given to oil companies were removed, there would be a huge incentive to invest in new energy production innovations. Simply printing money to pay for cheap oil guarantees we will very quickly burn through the remaining supply and bring about “spiking food prices and unprecedented famine”.
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hahaha! you don’t even know anything about the philosophy behind austrian economics!! Austrian economics doesn’t believe in central bank practices or “macro economics.” They can point out its faults, but thats not what austrain economics is about. I thought you knew something about it. You’ve been arguing this whole time and dont understand either side. No wonder why this keeps going back in circles.. Austrain economics is the study of individual choices that ones make in an economy. haha, come on now. I learned this years ago! It is the basic principles to economics. No wonder why you dont understand inflation and what it means today.. I bet you think the value of the dollar is measured by how many dollars are out there.. haha!!! You think letting a countries money supply dwindle till we become bankrupt is a perfect way to make long term investments?? So you think the same free market that has provided cheap energy for the past 100 years is going to turn around and change their methods when our economy goes to shit, (they obviously havn’t in the past).. Your idea is to let us fail without any knowledge if we can pick ourselves up again. Obama’s idea is to create incentives thru the cap and trade program to pick ourselves up without destroying our economy for who knows how long or how bad..
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i believe the correct term is, “marginalism.”
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and if we didn’t print money, oil would become cheaper, so we would just use more of it.
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Complete nonsense. You don’t even know the terms you’re talking about. Enjoy your discussions at school surrounded by people who have all the wrong ideas about economics in their heads.
You’ve never answered the one question only you can answer. And that is, why do you post on this site? Do you think you’re educating people? You’re not. I’d bet plenty of people held similar views to yours in the past but recent events have caused them to inquire, listen, and read. As a result of their research, they’ve changed their minds about central banking and monetary policy. Most everyone here is against central banking in principle and certainly in practice. You aren’t. Most everyone here wants huge banking/monetary reform in this country. You don’t. People here are demanding economic liberty. You would rather keep the state very much in charge of our economic lives. Most everyone here lays the most of the blame for the economic crisis at the feet of the gov/fed. You say oil is to blame. Essentially no one agrees with your positions and most find them to be completely absurd. Seriously, why do you post here? Why not just post on an Obama site (there are plenty of them) or on a site which favors the current administration/Fed and their positions regarding the economy? Your beliefs line up much better with their actions.
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You wrote all that for no reason. I want economic change, i just wrote that. Dont get upset and talk gibberish lies about me, just because i proved you wrong about something you held dear to you.
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If we are successful in auditing the Fed., we will find ample evidence of criminal theft of taxpayer money. Based on these facts, we could declare all actions of the Fed. illegal, all debts by Americans to foreign entities null and void.
The government takes over printing money, and the central bankers sent to China to answer for their misdeeds.
Gotta love it.
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Gotta to love it is an under statement! I would love to personally put my foot up Rockefeller’s arse…
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He is working for his own agenda…
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Sean it seams like you go to great lengths to disprove or to obscure the facts. Everyone who comes to this site, do so because the corruption of our constitution is evident in all actions of our government. Thus always leading back to the root cause of the problem the fed and its ability to control our money supply. Only a fool like yourself would think that your logic and regurgitation of the banks and mass media rhetoric Could possibly shroud the resounding truth that our forefathers had ensured would resonate through history. If you refuse to listen to reason then listen to all the warnings our forefathers left to prevent the true access of evil. Were here for a reason we know not through figures or statistic, through politics or media. That we are being taken advantage of. So Sean save your breath for neither you nor any other form of deceit can convince us to surrender our sovereignty. The CONSTITUTION IS OUR GUIDE, AND NEVER AGAIN WILL WE STRAY FROM OUR DUTY TO RECLAIM WHAT BELONGS TO,” WE THE PEOPLE”. Spare me enemy of my enemy is my friend, friend of my enemy is my enemy as well. Take a hint and a hike.
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Yeah…but we can’t force him to leave. I just don’t get why he bothers to post here. Pretty much everyone on this site can destroy any argument he puts forth.
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The root of the problem isn’t the federal reserve, its oil.. Who do you think set up the federal reserve and why?? Rockefellar. Do you even know what he did?… He revolutionized the oil industry. The main purpose for central banks is for fair trade. Rockefellar wanted to make america wealthy because it was enriched with oil.. After the federal reserve was created, we became the number one exporting country for oil. WHy do you think we became so wealthy and our economy advanced so fast?? Guessssss WHat. We started running out of oil in the sixties so we got off the gold standard so we could start purchasing oil. Since then the wealth of america has moved to other countries. 70% of our money isn’t even in america.. Do you know ANYTHING about economics or are you just some sort of conspiracy nut job?
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When did CONSPIRACY become a bad word? Do you know the meaning of the word? The root is NOT oil. The root of the problem are the controllers of the MONEY SUPPLY… Oil is not a medium of exchange. Our money supply is NOT backed by oil, gold, silver, etc. It is backed by NOTHING. See the problem?
Those in control of the money supply control the markets. Oil is just ONE of those markets…
Knowledge is a most wonderful asset.
By the way, LABOR is where true wealth lies… It is being stolen from us in exchange for a federal reserve note. Hoist up a Jolly Roger at the White House if they want to protect the interest of the MONOPOLIST….LOL
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WE are paid in debt (federal reserve notes) and have to report it as income (excise tax) and the MONOPOLIST get our true wealth which is labor and they get to write it off on their taxes. Let us not forget all the tax exemptions they claim…
Seems like a backwards deal to me!!!
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Oil is our GOD! do you think our economy could function tomorrow if there was no oil?
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Labor is not where truth wealth lies! Why do you think ron paul and every economists on both sides stress the importance of production and savings in an economy? Ron paul’s financial advisor Peter SHMiff blames our consumption and the trade deficit.. OIL makes up half of our trade deficit and was the cause for FREE TRADE in the seventies which led to less PRODUCTION.. THe only difference between what peter shmiff and I are talking about, is oil. THey leave out the most important factor to CONSUMPTION and our TRADE DEFICIT
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Lets say i work hard for an oz of gold, and then i give that gold to a farmer for food.. NOw the farmer has an oz of gold and i don’t… Who would be considered more wealthy?
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You are correct in a way… Labour is value and money is given for labor, therefore labour gives money value.
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Nobody here knows anything about money. I go to school till 9 PM four nights a week. I’m working on my bachelors in business science.. I sit in class discussing economics with men who have their Phd.. You can speak about money after you go to college for 6 years about economics. Until then, your clueless about how it works. Quoting someone who has been dead for close to 40 years doesn’t make anyone an expert on how economics works today and the reasons for it.
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Sean,
It is NOT nice to assume who you are talking to!
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Also, the schools no longer teach my friend. IT seems by your answers that it is you that does not know. What books have you read? Let me guess the glossed over books approved by Rocke-smeller?
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Give us a break! Most colleges teach Keynesian nonsense as economics. There are plenty of people who go to college, major in economics/business/political economy or whatever and then eventually come to realize that what they learned is a bunch of nonsense. Austrian economics is economics, the other schools are mistaken and people waking up to that fact. You’ll get there eventually.
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These robber barons are the same ones that pushed for us to return to the Gold Standard during Roosevelt’s presidency. The big crash happened in 1929 which brought on the Great Depression. We were on a fractional reserve system.
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These same robber barons wanted a Gold Standard during Roosevelt’s time and they want it now… This is why they want Ron Paul to push this return to the Gold Standard.
Simple solution is to push for Executive Order 11110. It was and has never been rescinded…
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Read Web of Debt on Scrib.com. Follow the yellow brick road my friend…
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Sean,are you fool or foil? This has nothing to do with central economic planning.Govt does play important part in an economy.It’s primary function should be as a referee.Your US Govt presently is just a tool of the Fed and the other corporate parasites.Obama is just another puppet of the Fed.The Fed loves socialism since the US Govt has to borrow from them to finance it. Why has he not rescinded the Patriot Act?
Our Western Govts need radical reform.There is too much empire building,lawyer interference and corporate corruption.Reform Govt and stop the large corporate donations and we will have not only a fairer society but more efficient and productive one.People again will have time for family life and time to think away from the treadmill of Federal Reserve debt!Dumb down the population and we all lose!
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Bravo, bravo, …
WE need groups to get out of our politics as well. WE need NO secret societies, Jesuits, Zionist, etc. in our politics. This is a country of free thinkers not a country belonging to a hive. Any group that resorts to underminding the policies of our beloved country need to be tried for HIGH TREASON…
This is a REPUBLIC not a democracy!
Democracy is the brother of Communism. If we forget true history we are bound to repeat it.
No more behavior modification allowed to brainwash our children. These children are the future of America and they should be passed a burning torch of knowledge. Let us all wake the heck up to this conspiracy to destroy America. This is not the first time and this will not be the last time that Americans must fight to keep their freedoms. You were given your birthright by your creator and that birthright is being stolen from you and your children with Acts such as the Un-Patriot Act.
All members of secret societies and other underminding groups should be made to list their organizations and members in a database. No more free riders in this country. No more life time positions for Skull and Bones judges…
Justice must come from us!
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ROss, you obviously havn’t read Ron pauls book. You obviously don’t know a damn thing about austrian economics.
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Sean, you obviously don’t know a damn thing about economics. As no one agrees with anything you say.
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the only two people whom i’ve been having disagreements with about money is you and the other nate. The ohter nate thinks that austrian economics is more of a macro level study. I guess you agree with him.
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What about Cheryl, Ross, or we the people? They’re all arguing with you in this very thread. Or the other people who used to debate with you but quickly tired of your childish tactics and continued fallacies (ad homs, argument from authority, straw mans, etc.)? I guess they don’t count. Everyone who posts here saying they’d like to see the Fed gone, its power diminished, or its books fully audited, etc. is completely at odds with you.
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Sean, I don’t know what happy little world you live in, but everyone appears to disagrees with you everytime you put your two cents in. And I didn’t say anything about people disagreeing with you about money, you need to listen better
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You see see our Res Bank is owned by the Govt but parliament cannot dictate interest rates.Instead of Govt members on it’s board there are mostly captains of industry and also reps from social security etc.By owning our currency ,we can reduce our taxes.
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What?? the whole idea behind austrian economics and what ron paul is talking about is that central economic planning does not work. It creates business cycles. We’re not trying to set up a new form of central economic planning, we’re trying to get rid of it. THe whole idea is not to have anyone “owning” our currency. Its supposed to be controlled by individual banks.
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thats so funny. you dont know a damn thing about the roll of government if you think we should socialize our banks.. Who do you think is going to pay for that? interest rates or our tax rates.. what do you think the government would do if m1 was low? inflate the dollar.. Your such an idiot, you can think all you want, but you obviously don’t know anything about either money or government policies..
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Ron paul for sure does not want to socialize banks. He wants to get rid of the central bank, but not give the government 2wice as much power. What makes you think the government would do a better job at managing money, or persue different policies?
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At least you could vote them out.
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Sean “Isn’t that socialism?” What we have now is a totalitarian,parisitic monetary system that no one can audit.If govt has the power to issue currency with proper regulation,they can then be voted from power if they stuff up.People will pay less taxes,you can have smaller govt than now hence far less socialism.
Money should belong to the people since they are the real producers!No non productive banks should own a curreny who merely function as gates keepers whom we pay rent to in the form of interest.
It works well here in Australian Sean.We have the best perfroming banks on the planet.What we need to do is to back our currency by something of value and reduce our debt.
Currently the US Fed takes $50 billion in profits each year and gives $30 billion the Govt.They keep $20 billion for doing nothing as well as creating inflationary money.It is not theirs to take or give back.It represents the increase in GDP of the people.It is theft Sean.
Sean,I think I know more about your country than you do.
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so your for socialism? have you ever read the constitution, or the federalist papers, or common sense?
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Now Ron,if you you want some ideas for slogans etc,just consult me, since in the interest of our common humanity,they will be free.
How about some signs,”Fed Up with Wankers”
” Stop Monetary Masturbation”
Be creative and not angry,since even the corrupted will be converted by truth in the face of a perverted self destructive philosophy.
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Sean still does not get it.You don’t have to shut down the Fed.All you have to do is follow the Constitution which says that only Congress has the power to issue currency and the Fed can go off and play monopoly money all by itself.
A sort of monetary masturbation Sean.You should know all about this!
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Isn’t that socialism? Where does it say that congress should issue currency?.. It does say that congress should not allow any currency other than gold or silver, but i don’t think our forefathers predicted us spending 40 billion dollars a month overseas on oil.
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have you even read the constitution? or the federalist papers? or common sense?
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I have written my representative, Steve Austria (R) OH-7 and heard nothing from him. I will be sending off another email, and calling his office Monday morning.
Could someone clear up the differences between S.513 and S.604, they both sound similar. Thanks.
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Click on more from this publisher once you have read The Plot to Seize the White House to read The History of Standard Oil Company…
History repeats itself indeed especially when the criminal is never punished but is rewarded with more wealth.
Pur these elitist in jail. Their crimes are many but the one that stands out clearly through written history is HIGH TREASON.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13739881/History-of-Standard-Oil-Book-Taken-Off-Shelves
All wars have been fought for the industrialist fascist pigs! Our men and women should never spill a drop of blood on foreign soil. War is a RACKET.
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/13740220/The-Plot-to-Seize-the-White-House
Read this censored book. What happened during Roosevelt’s time is and has been happening because of who controls the wealth in this country!
WE can never go back to the gold standard while this banking cabal is in power. There is a conspiracy indeed and those conspiring are none other than a few wealthy elitist.
We know who the enemy of humanity is!
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i would say that our economy has grown more than expected and has done quite well since the fed was created in 1913.
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If you call debt growth, then yes we’ve grown.
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Debt becomes liquidated and turns into principle… So i would call principle growth if you want to be correct.
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I’m sorry, debt becomes liquidated and turns into equity, which is wealth, and growth.
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Wrong. Explain the great crash of 1929. You tell those people that lived through the Great Depression that. You tell the people that are homeless and unemployed that.
The banking cabal are in control of our money (debt) supply. They create depression, recessions, inflation, deflation, contraction, expansion, etc. of our money supply.
It is a private institution that answers to no gov’t…
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I don’t understand your argument. The reason why the great depression got so bad and lasted so long was because there was a gold standard. The money supply contracted 30% and the federal reserve could not step in and do anything.. Are you arguing against credit? because credit was around before the federal reserve.. Please be specific.
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Their were laws that prevented the federal reserve to help expand the suppy of money when it was needed because of the lack of gold reserves. That’s why people who are experts of the great depression say that there wasn’t enough done..
And i don’t think you understand the point i was trying to make.. Homes, cars, or whatever else you pay with debt turns into value after it gets liquidated. Thats a general understanding.
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I really don’t understand your argument. The reason why the great depression got so bad and lasted so long was because there was a gold standard. The money supply contracted 30% and the federal reserve could not step in and do anything.. Are you arguing against credit? because credit was around before the federal reserve.. Please be specific.
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Their were laws that prevented the federal reserve to help expand the suppy of money when it was needed because of the lack of gold reserves. That’s why people who are experts of the great depression say that there wasn’t enough done..
And i don’t think you understand the point i was trying to make.. Homes, cars, or whatever else you pay with debt turns into value after it gets liquidated. Thats a general understanding.
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Wrong again Sean. The Federal Reserve went to a fractional reserve system on its inception in 1913. Sort of like a PYRAMID scheme. The big crash happened in 1929. You do know the meaning of fractional reserve don’t you?
You do know that these same people in control of our money supply funded both sides of WWII? They helped build up Russia (Communism) while building up Germany (Socialism)… War is a racket!
This banking cabal smacks of ZIONIST!
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Well actually I was correct and yes I know what fractional reserve lending is.
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you all have a better chance of winning the lottery than shutting down the fed. The other 99% of the population wont allow it.
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I doubt that, we got millions of people now aware of what is going on and people who are armed and armed with the constitution.
The Fed can’t hide anymore and there is a very good chance to be rid of it, once it is fully exposed.
Showing everyone what’s under that hood is the road to resolve it.
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Please, theres nothing to hide. The federal reserve has been around for a long time. I think its the young uneducated kids who believes all the conspiracy films are real and try to rebel.. The problem is not some secret society, its central banks in general. If your going to rebel, know the correct reason.. Anyways, the senate wont allow this legislation to pass for the consideration of other countries confidentiality. Thats the whole reason the congress gave the fed this specific power in the first place.
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This is something for your small brain so maybe you can learn something about the system you support.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRWU_Q50QA
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haha. i already know all of this. I don’t support it, Im just telling you how it is and how its going to be whether you like it or not.
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Sean is an idiot, and there is no confidentiality agreement to not show other countries “central bank sheets.”
That excuse died a long time ago!
OPEN THE BOOKS, FULL FLEDGED AUDIT!!!!
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You can tell the Fed apogolists a mile off.Richard Halls must have shares in the Fed.Actually I’d like to know if the 12 banks of the Fed Res are privately listed companies or do they have share holders? Now this is a really important issue,since if they do have shareholders,this broadens their power base.
Richard fails to acknowledge that unlike other private companies, the Fed is in a very priviledged position of reaping profits from the community without adding anything to society’s real productive capacity.They just generate money from cyber space and charge people interest for being productive.When your nose is the trough along with all the other pigs,you fail to realise who provided the food.Greed and power become the over riding motivation,which ultimately leads to the destruction of us all.
History does repeat itself,so study well the two world wars and the Great Depression.
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The regional Feds are own by the banks in the region. I am not a shareholder of any bank.
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BRAVO!! it’s great reading how so many people really are aware of what is truely going on in this country. I’ve been reading how corrupt the I.R.S. the Federal Reserve and the judicial system is that it blows me away. (actually, the i.r.s.and feds were created to steal from the people to begin with.) Our Founding Father’s told the people to “stay on your toes” because it is sooo easy for corruption to take over and sure enough it started even shortly after the Constitution was written.
Sovereign Individual is something else Americans do not know. We are the POWER that can do away with the vermin that runs OUR country. We don’t have to wait for the next election to do away with a politician. He or she is doing a crappy job…get rid of them immediately. It could really be simple if people just knew how much power they really have. It says so in OUR Bill of RIGHTS…that’s why government is doing their best to get rid of OUR RIGHTS because we won’t have the power to tell them off (so to speak)until those RIGHTS no longer exist.
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The first step is realizing we have the power. The second step is having the spine to stand up to these “organizations”. Our country is about to be given away from us, we can not stand idely by and watch that happen with no concience. We must band together. We are bigger in numbers than they are. Can we do it? Yes!, we can! Let’s get organized.
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Here is an interview on ben bernanke. his first one ever. watch this before you judge him..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odPfHY4ekHA
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Frankly I am sick beyond the last straw of the two party systematic dictatorship
Obama’s not the problem, I do believe he’s ultimately good on our freedom side, but regardless of that I know who I always vote for.
Constitutionalists like Ron Paul and I couldn’t in conscience vote for anything less!
It’s time the rest of the republicans, the constitutional conservatives come together after watching that nightmare of socialism during the Patriot Act years…..and begin the process of ripping down the two party duopoly, for the sake of all people.
For Michelle Bachmann, for David Akaka, for like minded conservative democrats and republicans and patriots.
All united under Ron Paul and the constitution, fighting for independence like we originally did a long time ago!!
The Federal Reserve, the FRS system is nothing less than a sickening secretive dictatorship of clearly fascist Zionism.
I am convinced that the Federal Reserve is designed to destroy the conservative ideals our forefathers warned the world about, that the Temple can not be saved, and must be exposed to the light of day.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
H.R. 1207 lights the fires and paves the path of the revolution against Globalization. Lets get this legislation in front of everyone, lets take back our party system, and then lets vote for “REAL CHANGE” in every state at the local level!!!!!
The Federal Reserve is a private bank which is not accountable to any of us, nor allows itself to be dissected by Congress. Pass the Audit of the Federal Reserve and let us have freedom! Let us find out once and for all what Geithner and the Globalists have done to this country, and understand once and for all, why the Federal Reserve whom owns the media has attempted to legislate morality and bankrupt our nation.
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I watch these videos, and I just feel ashamed that we let this happen. I mean we basically gave all of our power to choose, and dictate our own lives, and handed it over to a bunch of greedy, selfish, scoudreling trust fund babies. Where’s our sense of dignity that made us the model country of this planet? I for one am tired of struggling for a buck, and when I get my check I have just enough money to be in more debt. The Fed should be audited, why would we even give complete control of coining money to a private company not thinking they wouldn’t just start printing off all the money they needed for whatever they wanted? These bankers have been behind the scenes for centuries, and let me tell you folks, when I say they wan to enslave you that’s exactlt what I mean. I’m not the smartest guy in the world, and politics isn’t my strong suit, but when something is wrong it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know it’s wrong. AUDIT THOSE LEECHES, IT’S TIME FOR SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.
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Bravo… Well stated!
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I don’t know how best to inform Ron Paul, maybe other users will be more able than me to tell him about this major loophole in the program:
The video explaining it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-arbfLTCtI
Please watch it, it’s logical and explains how a major economic fraud may take place in future, and inform Ron Paul if you know how. Thank you and let’s hope this is somehow reviewed and avoided.
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Is’nt it time that the american people grow a spine? Our nation behaves like a crack addict. We see the destruction all around us, to the point of losing everything we have, yet we dont have the will power or the cajones to do anything about it. When the destruction hits home, are we suprised that our neighbors and fellow countrymen and women are indiffenent? The me first mentality is comming home to roost. Unfortunatly, like a drug addict, we know this isn’t right, yet we are too scared to make the hard choices that will eventually free us from bondage of this most corrupt government. We built a border “fence” when we needed a mine field. As long as we tolerate corrupt officials to rule our lifes, we deserve what we get, corruption.
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Well said!
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By the way the IRS does NOT collect for our federal gov’t. It collects for the debt makers (federal reserve). This is why it was so imp’t for them to dupe you into accepting a social security number. Got to keep track of them slaves.
By the way the income tax is NOT a tax on income. It is an excise tax. Also, the income tax collection is NOT necessary to run this country. The reason we are in debt is because Congress no longer prints and coins its own money. Thus the creation of debt incurred by the charging of interest (usury). The deficit is necessary to keep the slaves enslaved.
When the people around the world wake up and realize that they have traded their real wealth which is labor for debt there will be a movement not a revolution. No revolution ever accomplishes anything except another form of government or enslavement like a dictatorship. Revolutions fail because they are organized. What comes out of the organized revolt? More enslavement. The difference between a movement and a revolt is simply the fact that a movement is an awakening and is non-violent.
The natives are restless. We want answers and we want them NOW!
Everyone should be mad as hell at the direction this country is heading. What about the public schools that are purposely dumbing down your children? How? Because they no longer teach facts. They are in the business of behavior modification. You now have sicko’s in charge of your kids. And the country wants to know why there have been so many school shootings and violence! Education starts in the home.
Another thing that should be making people angry is the big pharma companies. When have you ever seen so many pill pushing commercials on TV? These are not cures. These are placebos. Our doctors and nurses are now pill pushers instead of true medical doctors/nurses. Want to know how much they know about nutrition just ask them? You will be surprised that they only take one or two courses in nutrition. All ailments and sicknesses start with what you put in your body and on the largest organ called the skin. How many of you know that aluminum is the first ingredient in your deodorant? And what has this been linked to? Alzheimer’s. Is it no wonder why there have been so many people diagnosed with this disease? How about cooking in aluminum pans or eating vegetables out of aluminum cans? How about the lotions you put on your skin? You do know that it has been proven that sun screen has been linked to so many skin cancers??? What about fatigue? Anyone have this problem of sluggishness? Well, it could be the fluoride in your water supply…
These bankers, corporations, etc. all need to be held accountable for destroying lives. Both create hardships. Corporations do it by making you sick and with that comes a big fat hospital bill.
I can go on and on…
We need common folks to push for Congress to grow a spine and put more laws into effect that hold these morons responsible.
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Cheryl A.—- Interested in talking to you more about your knowledge of the Federal Reserve.
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I suggest you read The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
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Greg,
Contact me through this Scribd account:
http://www.scribd.com/NATION-IN-DISTRESS
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you should really see Alex Jones endgame. it creep ed me the hell out to see what the true purpose of the fed and its owners are up to. i really hope that every one here who talks like a patriot behaves like one as well. i hope that your bark is a big as your bite. these guys are cold calculating monster and will try to stop any one that gets in there way. we have to be as determined if not as well funded as they are. information is the key but action is our cause.
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United we stand, divided we fall!
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i believe you mean you hope our bite is as big as our bark.
as mine is.
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Mine too…
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The Federal Reserve is a private institution. The creation of the Federal Reserve and its collection agency the IRS came into existence in 1913. It all started with the charging of interest on fiat money (debt). We went from money that was backed by gold and silver to a fiat system which is backed by nothing. Each dollar that is printed represents debt.
They are as federal as Fed Ex. LOL
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NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW THE FED SHOULD BE AUDITED AND MADE
TOTALLY TRANSPARENT,
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Are you suggesting that a law be passed allowing the congress to audit a private company?
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I’m not trying to be condescending or anything, but did you really just ask that question? You damn right we should audit a private company who acts as part of our government system, but actually isn’t. That Federal you see in front of Reserve is just a front my friend. Furthermore you damn right we should audit a company who prints our American dollar out of thin air, that’s about to go extinct by the way, and acts like they’re above the law. Greenspan has gone on national television basically saying we are above the law, and you can’t tell us what to do, and now this retard is a presidential advisor? Give me a break. So the answer to your question is yes we should audit a private company, if it’s the non-federal Federal Reserve.
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guys enough debating and more action. if we want to see this country and constitution survive we need to be on track here. we have to inform people of HR 1207. it is imperative that the fed is audited so that people can see the head of the snake. i went to http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/, got the fax number for all the reps in NY and NJ. then sent them the HR 1207 fax form. im going to do this everyday until i see that number of co-sponsors change from 58 to 108. we are this country’s last hope for freedom from this monster that is the fed. and i know that the heads of the fed have their drones infiltrating all of these sites to distract people from the true issue. we have to remain focused on the matter at hand or we will see our beautiful country go to ruins. please do whatever it takes, print out fliers talk to people get them to do the same. email, fax and call every single representative and senator in the USA if you have to. lets flood the halls of the hill with our demands for transparency, there’s no other way. and in the truest sense of the word if their appears here people who are trying to discredit what we are doing just say to those cowards what Samuel Adams would say
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” –
— Samuel Adams
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Yes, laws are passed every day on “private” citizens. Why not on PRIVATE Corporations?
Are they above the law?
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Anyone for harsher laws on PRIVATE CORPORATIONS? I sure the heck am. There is unfair advantage when a corporation is allowed to monopolize industries! I call it the way I see it.
Can the avg. Joe go coin his own money? Then it is a monopoly pure and simple.
Stop the monopolies NOW. Bring back FAIR TRADE and Competition NOW!!!!!
Return the power to coin and print money to Congress! If not, harsher laws and penalties for charging USURY! Harsher laws on CREDIT CARD companies too!
A contract should benefit both parties. If it does not there is NO contract. Push for honesty and integrity!
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See how far they get with passing a law on taxing the AIG employees.
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your a moron and im sick of assholes like you coming to places like this knowing fully what we are trying to do here. we are trying to restore the republic and we don’t need to answer to the likes of a simpleton like you. only congress shall have the authority to coin money and that’s that you corporate drone. and as a parting gift here are some words from Samuel Adams.
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
— Samuel Adams
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Why don’t you start by telling the people who owns the FED. It is NY & UK banks. It is a private company – look it up in the business section of the phone book.
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Holy shit! And what if one of these trucks blows a tire??? How many civilians will it kill?
I have this on my Scibd account…
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