Ron Paul Didn’t Expect This Response From Hillary Clinton

Date: 4/22/2009
Venue: House Foreign Affairs Committee
Channel: C-SPAN 3


Howard Berman: The gentleman from Texas, Mr. Paul, is recognized for five minutes.

Ron Paul: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And welcome, Madame Secretary.

I have a general question I want to ask about foreign policy, but leading up to that question I would like to mention first that the election had something to do with bringing about change in tone with our foreign policy. And I think there have been some very positive changes in tone and many of us have argued for more diplomacy rather than more threats, so many of us are pleased with that. It goes back to the old saying of, “Speaking softly and still be willing to carry a big stick”. But sometimes I wonder whether that big stick doesn’t get wielded a little too often.

But I do want to caution all of us that what we say is very important and can be very beneficial, but what we do is also very important. So that may cancel out the benefits of speaking more softly and being willing to talk and negotiate. Some people say that we shouldn’t talk to our enemies, but I remember the cold war rather well, and we did talk to kruchev and Mao Tse Tung when they were great threats to us. So, sometimes I think that when we look at how we stood up to tens of thousands of nuclear weapons, that we should be cautious as far as what we might do in Pakistan and put it into a proper perspective.

But my big concern is whether or not we can reverse the empire mentality that I think we have adopted over these many, many decades, and also the relationship of this to our financial burden. Though we are speaking more softly and would like to get some troops home, the first thing that was done was that our DOD budget was increased by 9% in a time when our national debt in the last 12 months went up 2 trillion dollars.

All great nations have been brought to their knees for economic reasons. We didn’t have to fight the Soviets. The Afghanistan adventure that the Soviets were involved with was very significant and I don’t know how we can ignore that.

So, I would like to ask the question about whether or not you can give me some signs or indications or some encouragement that maybe we shifted policies in the slightest manner. Have we brought any troops home? Are we less involved in Iraq? Will that war ever end? Or we really going in the opposite direction because we’re seeing Pakistan as so necessary, we need more troops, more expansion, more money, more DOD funds.

So, coming from my perspective I can’t see the difference even though, like I said, I am pleased that there is a willingness to talk and try to work things out and I think that is very positive. I always think that people who aren’t willing to talk are insecure. This whole idea that we are so strong, to me, it seems that we lack confidence if we can’t talk to people. And we are strong enough. Nobody is going to attack us militarily.

So, I see it as very important that we change our tone. I think it’s good that you got rid of the term “war on terrorism”. How can you have a war against a tactic? It doesn’t make any sense. But I am not sure “overseas contingency operation” is more specific. So could you address that and maybe give me some answers that maybe we may be seeing actually some shift in our policy.

Hillary Clinton: Well, thank you, Congressman. I think that the president’s actions in these nearly 100 days do match actions with words, although I admit there is a lot more to be done. We are still sorting out everything we’ve inherited and trying to make sense of it. We want to protect America’s national security, but we think there are better and more effective ways of doing that. So we are ending the war in Iraq. There is a definite end date for our troops to be there. The president did close Guantanamo. The president is looking for ways to engage with those who nobody wanted us to talk to, which is a sea shift in how we are proceeding.

Words and actions both matter. I mean, at the end of the day actions count more. But you have to begin by at least articulating a new approach. In our budget we have asked for more money for diplomacy and development. And the budget committee, in both the house and the senate, cut back the president’s request. It’s kind of old thinking, in my view. I mean, the secretary of defense has said that there are fewer foreign Service diplomats posted oversees than there are sailors and marines on one aircraft carrier. There are more musicians in the military bands than there are diplomats across the board. So, we are trying to shift this gigantic ship of state, Mr. Paul. And we are looking for your help to do so.

And at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.

Ron Paul: I love to hear that.

Hillary Clinton: Well, I mean, my goodness! Everywhere I went they were literally running down highways holding your signs. So, I’ve never had a chance to tell you that, but your message obviously resonated with a lot of people.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

Howard Berman: You’re going to encourage him.

  • Because it is your prejudice in question, the one that has little to do with color and everything to do with nationality.

  • nice double negative…


  • in fact, I cant even imagine what your father (if you know him) done to u.
    do you understand that professor

  • I know…your kind always resorts to name calling, remind you of grad school or did your parent even let you go…
    what did they do to you son

  • tHE EXAMPLE “COLOUR” speaks volumes to your nation, why would I discuss Other types of Prejudice, when this IS the ONE glaring in the entire worlds face??

  • This is what I know, I am free to have whatever opinion I want.
    and it seems that in a handful of sentences YOU know everything about everyone, your nation is already a wasteland. that’s how blind you are. and its trolls like yourself who feed on others rather than having an intelligent thought of YOUR OWN, SO, if you want to continue with (in my opinion) your head up your backside. fine.

  • Who said anything about color? Prejudice is “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience” You can look it up later. Prejudice comes in many forms, race is only one. You hate and attack a group of cultures that you obviously have at best second hand knowledge of. Get your head out of the sand. If you were correct America would be a wasteland that resembles a scene from Mad Max. Your ignorance rules your ideas. Educate yourself, you don’t know enough to have an opinion.

  • Uh…even in a comment, the rules of the English language apply. Weird you’d go with “smarmy jackass” in your reply (it’s not weird, you’re an idiot).

  • you live in a nation that produces 97% of the child porn distributed world wide.
    a nation that wants to teach pre kindergarden children how to explore themselves?
    the world can smell the horror you left behind in Iraq and now Syria, you leaders systematically send their diplomats to die and say “what of it”?

  • should we raise a glass or bow our heads to the Nation USA that singlehanded ly, TOOK Prejudice, to a new level of degradedness.
    to a nation of people who are considered to be the scourge of the 21st century world. where swiss people sitting in a restaurant get up and leave, when americans sit at a table.
    Those of you who have never been anywhere or done anything have the most to say yappy. lippy, and destine to fail.

  • that’s right, it was a comment, the sign says comment Not essay.
    if I need to explain what I was saying then you need only ask.
    if you didn’t understand the context then it seems to me that even a qualified explanation would not help you. have you seen the stats on American education, can you read trayvon

  • the likes of creeps like you always play the race card.
    I live in a nation that simply does not measure people by their colour, you on the other hand represent a nation that lives in the glass house, you define prejudice in the very nature of your American species

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  • full of shit

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  • evil does all the time