Ron Paul Didn’t Expect This Response From Hillary Clinton

Date: 4/22/2009
Venue: House Foreign Affairs Committee
Channel: C-SPAN 3


Howard Berman: The gentleman from Texas, Mr. Paul, is recognized for five minutes.

Ron Paul: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And welcome, Madame Secretary.

I have a general question I want to ask about foreign policy, but leading up to that question I would like to mention first that the election had something to do with bringing about change in tone with our foreign policy. And I think there have been some very positive changes in tone and many of us have argued for more diplomacy rather than more threats, so many of us are pleased with that. It goes back to the old saying of, “Speaking softly and still be willing to carry a big stick”. But sometimes I wonder whether that big stick doesn’t get wielded a little too often.

But I do want to caution all of us that what we say is very important and can be very beneficial, but what we do is also very important. So that may cancel out the benefits of speaking more softly and being willing to talk and negotiate. Some people say that we shouldn’t talk to our enemies, but I remember the cold war rather well, and we did talk to kruchev and Mao Tse Tung when they were great threats to us. So, sometimes I think that when we look at how we stood up to tens of thousands of nuclear weapons, that we should be cautious as far as what we might do in Pakistan and put it into a proper perspective.

But my big concern is whether or not we can reverse the empire mentality that I think we have adopted over these many, many decades, and also the relationship of this to our financial burden. Though we are speaking more softly and would like to get some troops home, the first thing that was done was that our DOD budget was increased by 9% in a time when our national debt in the last 12 months went up 2 trillion dollars.

All great nations have been brought to their knees for economic reasons. We didn’t have to fight the Soviets. The Afghanistan adventure that the Soviets were involved with was very significant and I don’t know how we can ignore that.

So, I would like to ask the question about whether or not you can give me some signs or indications or some encouragement that maybe we shifted policies in the slightest manner. Have we brought any troops home? Are we less involved in Iraq? Will that war ever end? Or we really going in the opposite direction because we’re seeing Pakistan as so necessary, we need more troops, more expansion, more money, more DOD funds.

So, coming from my perspective I can’t see the difference even though, like I said, I am pleased that there is a willingness to talk and try to work things out and I think that is very positive. I always think that people who aren’t willing to talk are insecure. This whole idea that we are so strong, to me, it seems that we lack confidence if we can’t talk to people. And we are strong enough. Nobody is going to attack us militarily.

So, I see it as very important that we change our tone. I think it’s good that you got rid of the term “war on terrorism”. How can you have a war against a tactic? It doesn’t make any sense. But I am not sure “overseas contingency operation” is more specific. So could you address that and maybe give me some answers that maybe we may be seeing actually some shift in our policy.

Hillary Clinton: Well, thank you, Congressman. I think that the president’s actions in these nearly 100 days do match actions with words, although I admit there is a lot more to be done. We are still sorting out everything we’ve inherited and trying to make sense of it. We want to protect America’s national security, but we think there are better and more effective ways of doing that. So we are ending the war in Iraq. There is a definite end date for our troops to be there. The president did close Guantanamo. The president is looking for ways to engage with those who nobody wanted us to talk to, which is a sea shift in how we are proceeding.

Words and actions both matter. I mean, at the end of the day actions count more. But you have to begin by at least articulating a new approach. In our budget we have asked for more money for diplomacy and development. And the budget committee, in both the house and the senate, cut back the president’s request. It’s kind of old thinking, in my view. I mean, the secretary of defense has said that there are fewer foreign Service diplomats posted oversees than there are sailors and marines on one aircraft carrier. There are more musicians in the military bands than there are diplomats across the board. So, we are trying to shift this gigantic ship of state, Mr. Paul. And we are looking for your help to do so.

And at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.

Ron Paul: I love to hear that.

Hillary Clinton: Well, I mean, my goodness! Everywhere I went they were literally running down highways holding your signs. So, I’ve never had a chance to tell you that, but your message obviously resonated with a lot of people.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

Howard Berman: You’re going to encourage him.

  • Who wants to kick the speaker in the balls when he says, “You’ll encourage him.”
    Mitt winning over Ron is proof of meddling in voting as far as I’m concerned.

  • just like kony 2012
    ron paul for president 2016
    thumbs up if u agree


  • Even Hilary knows Ron Paul rocks…

  • she lied twice first ten seconds talking

  • always encourage a truth-teller.

  • always encourage a truth-teller.

  • i know 🙂

  • He’s not running again, his son is.

  • Your going to encourage him sarcastic bastard. He was trying to tell Hillary to chill out you . What will make them laugh, join RON PAUL 2016 and let’s make them cry.

  • Because he is just like JFK and that can’t afford to have some1 with so much power. That power + the fact he cares about EVERYONE and is concern with giving the banks back to the people and returning GOVERNMENT to the people.

  • she makes a valid point, when there are more US band mu$ician$ on a Navy ship than they are Americn diplomats posted around the world what does that say about us?!? stop blaming govt and politicians for caving in when the bundles of cash are presented to them, it’s our own fault! we are the consumers that are feeding the corporations that run our govt

  • i know but that’s what this country needs the constitution needs to be enforced well that’s my opinion anyway??

  • Because he would turn the USA to a real Republic.

  • What I like about Mr. Paul is that he seems to be driven by logic and integrity in what he stands for……not something either party would endorse….what a shame!

  • I have been both a registered Democrat and Republican at various points in my life. II feel that the Republican message is in essence ‘ the ME party’ while the Democratic message is ‘the WE party’. From a Christian perspective, I believe that we should always err on the side of mercy. Christ said ‘whatever you do unto the least of these, you have done unto me”. My questions is with this current policy in place, why is the Republican Party viewed as the Christian party?

  • I said, what are you doing in the white house, if you’re not selling cocaine?

  • Ron Paul was right….Why did Hillary say Guantanamo was closed when its not??/

  • boy did you bite the hook??? HELLO peace b civil

  • thats how it works? hello another tid bit? 4-your mind??? peace

  • dross mr bush!