Comments on: Ben Bernanke to Ron Paul: “I will resist any attempt to dictate monetary policy.” http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sam DiMuzio http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19482 Sam DiMuzio Sun, 17 May 2009 23:44:54 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19482 Clean mean and to the point. The fed/banks are in the game of usury...they benefit and the public pays the bill. Have the availability of money handled by the Treasury (eliminate the federal reserve as they are useless in creating fiat money and changing the cost of borrowing). Any bank borrowing money from the treasury at 1% is permitted to loan the same money up to 3%. There is plenty of profit in that return. The more they loan the more they make. Any bank accumulating their own funds can loan it at their own rates. Their money...their risk. Between the two there can be competiton. Simple clean and honest. The economy would boom up. Clean mean and to the point. The fed/banks are in the game of usury…they benefit and the public pays the bill.

Have the availability of money handled by the Treasury (eliminate the federal reserve as they are useless in creating fiat money and changing the cost of borrowing). Any bank borrowing money from the treasury at 1% is permitted to loan the same money up to 3%. There is plenty of profit in that return. The more they loan the more they make. Any bank accumulating their own funds can loan it at their own rates. Their money…their risk. Between the two there can be competiton. Simple clean and honest. The economy would boom up.

]]> By: Pols http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19479 Pols Sun, 17 May 2009 23:23:24 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19479 A good, you found the copy/paste function on your computer. A good, you found the copy/paste function on your computer.

]]> By: Pols http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19478 Pols Sun, 17 May 2009 23:04:49 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19478 Thank you very much for informing me about my poor linguistic skills or as you put it liguistic skills. My linguistic skills are fine in my native language but, since you would not understand a word of Dutch I tried to accommodate you by trying to write in English. I'm sorry if I got a little carried away but, I am trying to get a global perspective on the whole globalisation subject and saw for the first time someone like Bernanke experiancing some real heat and how he dealt with it. It gives someone like myself the hope we can change the world we live in. And then some dickhead like you comes along and tries to spoil my good mood. Seems to me you have a long way to go growing up and becoming aware of the world we live in. Don't try to put people down that believe in the same cause you do. Don't put people down because you might be better at something. It doesn't help and it's lost energy when you're done. I don't think you have a clue what this is all about. I guess you don't know when the FED was even created let alone by whome or where Jeckyll Island is. If you don't, do the research. If you do, get aquainted with topics related to it. Put your energy in something usefull instead off putting people like me down. I think you will learn that saying something like "I think i’ll stick with my boy from Texas.", shows how ignorant you realy are. Try commenting on the subject instead off beating someones head in with your own stupidity. Get involved and talk about this stuff in your community. Try to understand what money is and how it enslaves you. Try to impress people with your knowledge on the subject without beeing an arrogant nitwit without any understanding of any other part of the world than Texas. There might be more. Thank you very much for informing me about my poor linguistic skills or as you put it liguistic skills.
My linguistic skills are fine in my native language but, since you would not understand a word of Dutch I tried to accommodate you by trying to write in English.
I’m sorry if I got a little carried away but, I am trying to get a global perspective on the whole globalisation subject and saw for the first time someone like Bernanke experiancing some real heat and how he dealt with it. It gives someone like myself the hope we can change the world we live in.
And then some dickhead like you comes along and tries to spoil my good mood. Seems to me you have a long way to go growing up and becoming aware of the world we live in. Don’t try to put people down that believe in the same cause you do. Don’t put people down because you might be better at something. It doesn’t help and it’s lost energy when you’re done.
I don’t think you have a clue what this is all about. I guess you don’t know when the FED was even created let alone by whome or where Jeckyll Island is.
If you don’t, do the research. If you do, get aquainted with topics related to it. Put your energy in something usefull instead off putting people like me down. I think you will learn that saying something like “I think i’ll stick with my boy from Texas.”, shows how ignorant you realy are.
Try commenting on the subject instead off beating someones head in with your own stupidity. Get involved and talk about this stuff in your community.
Try to understand what money is and how it enslaves you. Try to impress people with your knowledge on the subject without beeing an arrogant nitwit without any understanding of any other part of the world than Texas. There might be more.

]]> By: Fluidly Unsure http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19459 Fluidly Unsure Sun, 17 May 2009 12:22:04 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19459 But what constitutes a secret party? Is a "secret society" one with restrictive membership and is run by a small niche? Every ToastMaster club I've been to qualifies as "secret". Does a society that openly advertises itself qualify as secret? http://www.trilateral.org Cecil Adams made a few good points over 20 years ago. Membership has been used as political ammunition against many like Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/524/is-the-trilateral-commission-the-secret-organization-that-runs-the-world or http://tinyurl.com/67tcbk As long as the idea of secret societies exists (in real or just in some peoples heads), the claim of membership is ripe for abuse. How can someone defend themselves? But what constitutes a secret party?

Is a “secret society” one with restrictive membership and is run by a small niche? Every ToastMaster club I’ve been to qualifies as “secret”.

Does a society that openly advertises itself qualify as secret?
http://www.trilateral.org
Cecil Adams made a few good points over 20 years ago.
Membership has been used as political ammunition against many like Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/524/is-the-trilateral-commission-the-secret-organization-that-runs-the-world
or
http://tinyurl.com/67tcbk

As long as the idea of secret societies exists (in real or just in some peoples heads), the claim of membership is ripe for abuse. How can someone defend themselves?

]]> By: Fluidly Unsure http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19456 Fluidly Unsure Sun, 17 May 2009 11:46:21 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19456 I've got a couple of questions. First of all, what would we do without some form of monetary exchange? Not that the current one is a good choice-- it certainly doesn't seem to be. But when people speak of closing the Fed instead of fixing it, it sounds like there might be a risk of throwing the child out with the water so we should tread cautiously. I know that I could not survive as Jefferson felt we should and I seem to be reliant on the financial world that Hamilton created. Next, what should money truly be? I used to think the answer was 'gold' or other precious metals but its index shows fluctuation so it may not be as conservative a choice as I once thought. But then, maybe the changes in the index are caused because of money not being tethered to gold as it once was. Until these questions are answered satisfyingly, issues like the Feds involvement in JFK look like yet another conspiracy theory. Bringing them up while the other questions are unanswered only casts a dark cloud on the meat of the situation. I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that I am still uncertain enough that I can't accept what I've seen so far. I’ve got a couple of questions.

First of all, what would we do without some form of monetary exchange? Not that the current one is a good choice– it certainly doesn’t seem to be. But when people speak of closing the Fed instead of fixing it, it sounds like there might be a risk of throwing the child out with the water so we should tread cautiously. I know that I could not survive as Jefferson felt we should and I seem to be reliant on the financial world that Hamilton created.

Next, what should money truly be? I used to think the answer was ‘gold’ or other precious metals but its index shows fluctuation so it may not be as conservative a choice as I once thought. But then, maybe the changes in the index are caused because of money not being tethered to gold as it once was.

Until these questions are answered satisfyingly, issues like the Feds involvement in JFK look like yet another conspiracy theory. Bringing them up while the other questions are unanswered only casts a dark cloud on the meat of the situation.

I’m not saying that you are wrong, just that I am still uncertain enough that I can’t accept what I’ve seen so far.

]]> By: Brandulph http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19428 Brandulph Sat, 16 May 2009 18:56:20 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19428 - Well, Peter, you have witnessed the whole scam at close range, and of course, you are absolutely right when you write, -"There’s a lot more going on with the Fed than just controlling interest rates and the flow of money.They have their hands in everything." - "They" are, and have for a hundred years or so, been the REAL government of the USA. Simple as that, Peter, simple as that. ;-) - When I was young, and made my first long haul on my own sailing boat, my grandpa told me, -"Remember this one thing, son. When the going gets rough, and you stand there at the helm in a bad storm, never let go of the rudder! Never ever fall on your knees, folding your hands and pray to a god for help to get you through the heavy weather. 'Cause if you do that, you will lose your cargo, your ship and everyone sailing with her... and of course... you will be gone too! Hang on to the rudder, son... never, ever, fall on your knees in prayers! If you don't know how to handle your ship in a bad storm... you're not worthy of her! Sail!.. navigate!... curse the devil... but don't pray!" - Well, in my long life I have weathered many a storm... and it has always surprised me how frequently most Americans call on a "god" to get get themselves out of some "bad weather". ;-) The misery of religion i guess. - And by the way, the country with natural energy in abundance under their feet, is Iceland. Inhabited by good old "vikings". :-) - Well, Peter, you have witnessed the whole scam at close range, and of course, you are absolutely right when you write, -”There’s a lot more going on with the Fed than just controlling interest rates and the flow of money.They have their hands in everything.”
- “They” are, and have for a hundred years or so, been the REAL government of the USA. Simple as that, Peter, simple as that. ;-)
- When I was young, and made my first long haul on my own sailing boat, my grandpa told me, -”Remember this one thing, son. When the going gets rough, and you stand there at the helm in a bad storm, never let go of the rudder! Never ever fall on your knees, folding your hands and pray to a god for help to get you through the heavy weather. ‘Cause if you do that, you will lose your cargo, your ship and everyone sailing with her… and of course… you will be gone too! Hang on to the rudder, son… never, ever, fall on your knees in prayers! If you don’t know how to handle your ship in a bad storm… you’re not worthy of her! Sail!.. navigate!… curse the devil… but don’t pray!”
- Well, in my long life I have weathered many a storm… and it has always surprised me how frequently most Americans call on a “god” to get get themselves out of some “bad weather”. ;-) The misery of religion i guess.
- And by the way, the country with natural energy in abundance under their feet, is Iceland. Inhabited by good old “vikings”. :-)

]]> By: Wolfman http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19422 Wolfman Sat, 16 May 2009 16:14:45 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19422 This crazy talk about J.P. Morgan, Rockefellers and Rothchilds robbing the people of their hard money does not happen and cannot happen in the Fed is structured. The thief would be the Executive Department and Congress, not just the counterpart private banks. Such nonsense insults the intelligence of average Americans. When rabid dogs barks their protest, we know that they cannot think straight. The issue here is like the swine flu pandemic,the spread of ignorance that contaminates. Kalantiaw. THIS WAS A POST FROM SNEAKVILLE THE BONE HEAD. You obviously have not done any research at all! Get off your video games and get busy. Google the "federal reserve trail of blood". Google the "current ownership of the federal reserve and if after you read who owns it and you still believe that rediculous statement above that you posted then your are eith 12 years old or just a plain old dumb ass!Since J.P. Morgan and John D.Rockefeller joined forces in 1913 and formed only the third Central Banking system this country has had in it's history and then 8 months later formed the IRS all of which was Done through bribery, murder, intimidation and influence and they then hired the U.S Government as their enforcers they have owned your ass. Take a bill out of your pocket ( if you have one) and look at it fool. It DOES NOT SAY U.S. DOLLAR! It says Federal Reserve Note! To the Fed "Money is debt and debt is money". THATS ALL THEY CREATE IS debt. THEY ARE PRINTING UP TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COUNTERFEIT MONEY SIMPLY TO DESTROY OUR DOLLAR. I don't know if you are aware but the descendents of the Rothchild family along with Rockefeller family members meet twice a day in England and at these meetings they set the price of gold, oil, silver, platnium and natural gas. Gold is currently selling for around a $1000.00 per ounce yet the Federal Reserve places a value on the millions and millions of ounces of gold in our treasury or Fort Knox at the slimy price of $42.20 per opunce. Why? It's simple they are destroying the dollar as to create a global currency backed by what they will call chip gold (microchip) which will be valued at $50,000.00 per ounce and regular gold will be called "pagan gold" and wait until you see what the exchange rqate will be. Go to brasschecktv.com and watch the video by Salbuchi and internationaly known analyst and economist from Argentina and listen to what the Fed did to his country. Nuff said for now..got to go eat a blood pressure pill due to dealing with so many unformed jugheads. Wolfman This crazy talk about J.P. Morgan, Rockefellers and Rothchilds robbing the people of their hard money does not happen and cannot happen in the Fed is structured. The thief would be the Executive Department and Congress, not just the counterpart private banks. Such nonsense insults the intelligence of average Americans. When rabid dogs barks their protest, we know that they cannot
think straight. The issue here is like the swine flu pandemic,the spread of ignorance that contaminates. Kalantiaw. THIS WAS A POST FROM SNEAKVILLE THE BONE HEAD. You obviously have not done any research at all! Get off your video games and get busy. Google the “federal reserve trail of blood”. Google the “current ownership of the federal reserve and if after you read who owns it and you still believe that rediculous statement above that you posted then your are eith 12 years old or just a plain old dumb ass!Since J.P. Morgan and John D.Rockefeller joined forces in 1913 and formed only the third Central Banking system this country has had in it’s history and then 8 months later formed the IRS all of which was Done through bribery, murder, intimidation and influence and they then hired the U.S Government as their enforcers they have owned your ass. Take a bill out of your pocket ( if you have one) and look at it fool. It DOES NOT SAY U.S. DOLLAR! It says Federal Reserve Note! To the Fed “Money is debt and debt is money”. THATS ALL THEY CREATE IS debt. THEY ARE PRINTING UP TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COUNTERFEIT MONEY SIMPLY TO DESTROY OUR DOLLAR. I don’t know if you are aware but the descendents of the
Rothchild family along with Rockefeller family members meet twice a day in England and at these meetings they set the price of gold, oil, silver, platnium and natural gas. Gold is currently selling for around a $1000.00 per ounce yet the Federal Reserve places a value on the millions and millions of ounces of gold in our treasury or Fort Knox at the slimy price of $42.20 per opunce. Why? It’s simple they are destroying the dollar as to create a global currency backed by what they will call chip gold (microchip) which will be valued at $50,000.00 per ounce and regular gold will be called “pagan gold” and wait until you see what the exchange rqate will be. Go to brasschecktv.com and watch the video by Salbuchi and internationaly known analyst and economist from Argentina and listen to what the Fed did to his country. Nuff said for now..got to go eat a blood pressure pill due to dealing with so many unformed jugheads.
Wolfman

]]> By: John E. Rachal http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19402 John E. Rachal Sat, 16 May 2009 04:48:04 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19402 This private corporation we call the "Fed" (what a joke) has bled every aspect of this country dry. There is not anyone or anything that has been left untouched by this monster. They were responsible for JFK's assassination! There is no doubt about this. These bastards need to be rounded up and executed for all the suffering they have caused! I hope to God that there is a revolution in this country like in France! Thomas Paine said "that revolution from time to time is good." We need to end the "Fed" once and for all! This private corporation we call the “Fed” (what a joke) has
bled every aspect of this country dry. There is not anyone
or anything that has been left untouched by this monster. They
were responsible for JFK’s assassination! There is no doubt about this. These bastards need to be rounded up and
executed for all the suffering they have caused! I hope to God that there is a revolution in this country like in France!
Thomas Paine said “that revolution from time to time is good.” We need to end the “Fed” once and for all!

]]> By: longryder http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19363 longryder Fri, 15 May 2009 07:20:06 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19363 Great observation Mr B..Let me ask a ccouple of q's regarding..That awful day in Dallas and Pres. order # 11110... It is my understanding that JFK had indeed written it in like mid June'63..had actually already had printed something like $45 Billion in Silver Certificates ready to be launched as soon as Kennedys second term was underway...Does anyone here remember when like out of the blue , this Presidential oorder was "discovered" a few short years ago, right?..I mean I try to keep plugged into the assassination and anythingnew and I fo not remember ever hearing about this bombshell until, as I said, it's resurfacing within the last few years..If anyone has more concrete knowledge about it..please tell us all...I wrote a BLOG about JFK's murder just a couple of months ago. I believe that his murder has been solved. I also believe that the shooter who fired the fatal shot at the Grassy Knoll area..is very much alive and in prison in the mid-west on an unrelated murder attempt... I say this with trepidation and dread knowing that most will think me a loon for even broaching the subject of JFK and a conspiracy that I believe has a lot to do with what we see happening to our Republic here and now..If anyone is interested in checking it out , I have SOME WEB ADDRESSES FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS..My BLOG was entitled.."All roads lead out of Dallas"..including the road we are traveling on right now..Nothing will chamge those roads until ot unless we solve this sgameful and largely ignored crime of the Century back in '63..Your thoughts and opinions are coveted Great observation Mr B..Let me ask a ccouple of q’s regarding..That awful day in Dallas and Pres. order # 11110…
It is my understanding that JFK had indeed written it in like mid June’63..had actually already had printed something like $45 Billion in Silver Certificates ready to be launched as soon as Kennedys second term was underway…Does anyone here remember when like out of the blue , this Presidential oorder was “discovered” a few short years ago, right?..I mean I try to keep plugged into the assassination and anythingnew and I fo not remember ever hearing about this bombshell until, as I said, it’s resurfacing within the last few years..If anyone has more concrete knowledge about it..please tell us all…I wrote a BLOG about JFK’s murder just a couple of months ago. I believe that his murder has been solved. I also believe that the shooter who fired the fatal shot at the Grassy Knoll area..is very much alive and in prison in the mid-west on an unrelated murder attempt… I say this with trepidation and dread knowing that most will think me a loon for even broaching the subject of JFK and a conspiracy that I believe has a lot to do with what we see happening to our Republic here and now..If anyone is interested in checking it out , I have SOME WEB ADDRESSES FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS..My BLOG was entitled..”All roads lead out of Dallas”..including the road we are traveling on right now..Nothing will chamge those roads until ot unless we solve this sgameful and largely ignored crime of the Century back in ‘63..Your thoughts and opinions are coveted

]]> By: longryder http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-05-05/ben-bernanke-to-ron-paul-i-will-resist-any-attempt-to-dictate-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-19362 longryder Fri, 15 May 2009 06:50:08 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2236#comment-19362 You boys kissed and made up yet? ..good..All of us here that are not working for the perverts in D C need to support each other ..Help educate each other ..and stand together by forming plans that we can perhaps implement as a group rather than as an individual..I was evesdropping into your emails Peter and Mr Brandulph and what I am ftnding so fasconating is that we all bring our own unique knowledge and experiences regarding this absolute lie of all lies valled the Fed..I read a story a year or so ago that I wish now I had kept. The author who only identified himself as a former Federal Reserve mid level employee stated that a substatial amount of our gold and silver reserves has been transferred to the Fedreal Reserve as payment due..and is now buried within Fed owned Bank somewhere in Europe..Perhaps just a loon trying to scare the crap out of us..But once again, how would we really know if that is true or false?..If true, than how can we ever hope to build a monetary system based on precious metals again..? You boys kissed and made up yet? ..good..All of us here that are not working for the perverts in D C need to support each other ..Help educate each other ..and stand together by forming plans that we can perhaps implement as a group rather than as an individual..I was evesdropping into your emails Peter and Mr Brandulph and what I am ftnding so fasconating is that we all bring our own unique knowledge and experiences regarding this absolute lie of all lies valled the Fed..I read a story a year or so ago that I wish now I had kept. The author who only identified himself as a former Federal Reserve mid level employee stated that a substatial amount of our gold and silver reserves has been transferred to the Fedreal Reserve as payment due..and is now buried within Fed owned Bank somewhere in Europe..Perhaps just a loon trying to scare the crap out of us..But once again, how would we really know if that is true or false?..If true, than how can we ever hope to build a monetary system based on precious metals again..?

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