Ron Paul Opposes $96.7 Billion War Spending & Pandemic Flu Supplemental Bill

Date: 5/14/2009
Bill: HR 2346


Ron Paul: I thank you, Madam Speaker. Today we passed the supplemental bill, and I’m deeply disappointed about that. I was disappointed also that I wasn’t able to get any time to enter into the debate because the time was rather limited and it was a closed rule. But I did want to make a couple of comments and the concerns that I have had about this supplemental.

You know, when the President sent the supplemental over it was $84.9 billion, there were some of us that were hoping that we wouldn’t be funding the war through supplementals, but it looks like that hasn’t changed, that process would continue even though there were some that believe there would be a change in the way we funded these wars.

When that bill came to the House there was a lot of concern expressed about spending too much money, but by the time it got to the floor it was $96.7 billion, and things were added. For instance $2 billion for the flu epidemic that didn’t occur, but they still are going to spend $2 billion trying to figure out whether or not we’re ever going to have an epidemic.

But, it was very disappointing that even though it was a closed rule, the minority had one chance to do something about it and maybe reduce some of the spending. But low and behold, when that amendment was offered, it was offered to increase the spending by $2.9 billion. But there was a lot of expression of the outcry about this spending and the deficits we have and the deficit exploding and the Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid are underfunded and we’re in the midst of a crisis that doesn’t seem to bother anybody about spending.

But the truth is that the treasury is bare, the treasury is empty and yet we continue to spend all this money. So, where do they think they’re going to get this money? Well, we can’t tax the people anymore, the people are broke. And yet still we resort to more borrowing and more printing of money which will not last forever. It will eventually come to an end and I think that is what we’re witnessing.

But this process bothers me a whole lot that we come to the floor with these supplementals, we rush them through, we talk about this excess of spending and low and behold when we finally vote we get a total of 60 people who would say, “you know, enough is enough”.

And besides, what were we doing? Where are we spending this money? I thought that with this change in administration we would be fighting less wars. But no. The war in Iraq continues, we expand the war in Afghanistan, we spread the war into Pakistan, and we always have on the table the potential danger of Iran.

So when will it ever end? We can’t even define the enemy, who exactly is the enemy over there? Is it the Al Qaida, the Taliban, is it the government of Pakistan? If you can’t define the enemy, how do you know when the war is over? If you’re in war, which we are – how can this be anything other than war – when was this war declared?

They say, “Oh well, we got this authority five or ten years ago, who knows when”. Perpetual war, this is what we’re involved in. Perpetual spending. And then we say, “Well we have to do that to be safe”. That is what is preposterous. It’s the very policy that makes us unsafe. We pursue this policy and the more we do the less safe we are.

There’s a big argument now about whether we’re safer now with the new administration or is it making us less safe. The truth is that the policies of the last 10, 15, 20 years have made us less safe. And as long as we occupy countries, as long as we kill other people and civilians are being killed, we are going to build enemies. And as long as we’re known throughout the world that we torture people, we will incite people to hate us and want to come here to kill us.

So we aren’t more safe. We’re less safe by this foreign policy and someday we have to wise up, change our ways and not be the policeman of the world. Not to pretend that we can be the nation builder of the world. Swear off and make sure we don’t torture because you don’t get worthwhile information from torture. All it does is incite people against us, and the occupations can never be of any benefit to us.

But what about the financial calamity that’s coming? I’m afraid this is the way this will end: through another financial crisis much bigger than the one we currently have. Because you can’t create two trillion dollars of new money every year and expect the system to continue.

The Soviet system collapsed because they couldn’t afford it. Their economic system was a total failure. We did not have to fight the Soviets. Even though they were a nuclear power they collapsed and disintegrated. And that is what we have to be concerned about, because we cannot continue to finance this system and pursue a policy which endangers us. So if we care about the American people and we care about liberties and care about our constitution, we ought to look seriously at our foreign policy and not continue to pursue these supplemental appropriations where we continue to spend money that we don’t have.

I yield back.

  • Ross

    Stenzel,the system has become totally corrupted.It is not that the rest of Congress are not listening.They are either too scared or are waiting to see which which way the power is moving.

    The Fed has enormous power.They have shares in all the major media outlets & probably movie productions etc.So if anyone speaks out who has a career in these industries,their future can be compromised if they tread in forbidden territory.

    John Swinton Chief editor New York Times 1953….”We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes.We are the jumping jacks,they pull the stings and we dance.Our talents,our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men.We are intellectual prostitutes.” How much more powerful are these corporate elites today?

    This battle is just beginning.First priority is to create awareness.Educate people and speak the truth.

  • Ross

    Introduce a new bill to tax the Fed’s monopoly money.This is only the money which they create using the fractional reserve banking system.This will stop inflation and treasury will be able to use this money to pay the Fed’s interest bill to the Govt.Pay them back with their own phoney money.


  • Jack

    Were spending more and more money when treasury is broke!

    Why do Americans put up with this?

    Oh ya i forgot terrorists hate us because their muslim and we dont live in a crap-hole third world country.


    But ok mr terrorists… dont worry… our freedoms are being taken away and because were all broke, our prosperity is gonna be gone soon too!!!!!!

    What a sure-fire way to not get terrorists to attack us right guys?

    • anon

      Don’t forget that the Feds are a private organization. I am pretty sure the “terrorists” are really mad at them and not the American people. It’s just sad that American people in the US are the ones being affected and stuck in the middle.

    • Jack, take a look at Aaron Russo’s “America: Freedom to Fascism”
      and you will see that 9/11 was an inside job, and not done by a bunch of “terrorists” hiding in caves! Nicholas Rockefeller
      told Aaron 11 months before 9/11 that something would happen that would propel the US into Iraq and Afganistan. The only terrorists are the Central Banks that make big money on wars.
      This has been going on unchecked since 1913.