Comments on: Government Motors: Obama’s Engine of Wealth Destruction http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:39:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michael C. Deweyhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21731 Michael C. Dewey Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:34:36 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21731 Hey if We the People own GM and Banks too, how long before we start getting paid byt them paying some of our taxes? That cane be done by building the Electric Car we can plug into our Solar powered roofs, instead of the GUNS AND BOMBS Budget. Hey if We the People own GM and Banks too, how long before we start getting paid byt them paying some of our taxes? That cane be done by building the Electric Car we can plug into our Solar powered roofs, instead of the GUNS AND BOMBS Budget.

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]]> By: WGhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21558 WG Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:25:44 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21558 Kevin,Take a look at a tax return from someone whom is purchasing/living in a $3 million house and one of the "other 95%" and ask yourself what is right. Perhaps they're at a all time high because there are good bargins but I can assure you there's not many being built.This GM deal is for the birds, it adds another level of complexity not dictated by the free markets which makes it a unfair competitor. Imagine what Ford and others may encounter when selling cars or hiring talent, it's like asking Texas to compete with Kuwait on oil. Looks good to save the CO on the short term, politics... Kevin,

Take a look at a tax return from someone whom is purchasing/living in a $3 million house and one of the “other 95%” and ask yourself what is right. Perhaps they’re at a all time high because there are good bargins but I can assure you there’s not many being built.

This GM deal is for the birds, it adds another level of complexity not dictated by the free markets which makes it a unfair competitor. Imagine what Ford and others may encounter when selling cars or hiring talent, it’s like asking Texas to compete with Kuwait on oil. Looks good to save the CO on the short term, politics…

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]]> By: Michaelhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21523 Michael Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:09:44 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21523 Ron is absolutely correct about the government's invovlement at GM. It is the role of the government to serve its constituents to the best of its ability, but interfering with private enterprise is no way to do so.Instead, Government Motors will 'serve' us receive by using more of our money, money that could be used to help improve our lives, to be thrown down the drain and help get this failing company back on its feet. That is just not going to happen though because government has absolutely no idea or ability as to how to run a car manufacturing and distrubution business.The government does know how to use taxpayer dollars and waste them and it repeatedly does a good job at this. GM will be yet another example and I hope that politicians will finally learn from this, but it is up to the people and major media outlets to hold these crooks accountable and that happening is still yet to be seen. Ron is absolutely correct about the government’s invovlement at GM. It is the role of the government to serve its constituents to the best of its ability, but interfering with private enterprise is no way to do so.

Instead, Government Motors will ’serve’ us receive by using more of our money, money that could be used to help improve our lives, to be thrown down the drain and help get this failing company back on its feet. That is just not going to happen though because government has absolutely no idea or ability as to how to run a car manufacturing and distrubution business.

The government does know how to use taxpayer dollars and waste them and it repeatedly does a good job at this. GM will be yet another example and I hope that politicians will finally learn from this, but it is up to the people and major media outlets to hold these crooks accountable and that happening is still yet to be seen.

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]]> By: James Toyhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21392 James Toy Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:02:06 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21392 Ron is incorrect when he says alternative passenger trains cannot legally compete with Amtrak. It is not the law that prevents competition in passenger rail. It is the private freight railroads who will not allow competing passenger trains to operate on their privately owned tracks.Any passenger operator is legally allowed to negotiate for rights of access, but the track owners, who have enough to deal with in their freight operations, don't want to deal with competing passenger operators who each want their own time slots. Every freight railroad has stated in no uncertain terms they will deal with Amtrak and only Amtrak.Amtrak does have the legal right to access private tracks, but the law does not prohibit other operators from negotiating for access with track owners. Only the track owners themselves prohibit this.Until recently there WAS another operator, American Orient Express (later Grand Luxe Railways) which ran high-end luxury tourist trains all over the country. However, the freight railroads required AOE to contract with Amtrak for locomotives and crews who were familiar with each route.When state transportation agencies wish to start new regional services, the freight railroads often require the states to make their proposals through Amtrak. They generally will not deal with the states directly. Ron is incorrect when he says alternative passenger trains cannot legally compete with Amtrak. It is not the law that prevents competition in passenger rail. It is the private freight railroads who will not allow competing passenger trains to operate on their privately owned tracks.

Any passenger operator is legally allowed to negotiate for rights of access, but the track owners, who have enough to deal with in their freight operations, don’t want to deal with competing passenger operators who each want their own time slots. Every freight railroad has stated in no uncertain terms they will deal with Amtrak and only Amtrak.

Amtrak does have the legal right to access private tracks, but the law does not prohibit other operators from negotiating for access with track owners. Only the track owners themselves prohibit this.

Until recently there WAS another operator, American Orient Express (later Grand Luxe Railways) which ran high-end luxury tourist trains all over the country. However, the freight railroads required AOE to contract with Amtrak for locomotives and crews who were familiar with each route.

When state transportation agencies wish to start new regional services, the freight railroads often require the states to make their proposals through Amtrak. They generally will not deal with the states directly.

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]]> By: Ross Johnsonhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21311 Ross Johnson Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:07:35 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21311 It should read Tim,"Govt Motors Holdings".They'll be holding GMH back and costing the tax payer a bomb.Govts here in Aust cannot run a bank properly ie, all they have to do is generate currency and collect interest.What chance has a high tech manufacturuing industry got,run by incompetent bureaucracy and competing against the likes if Toyota? The only way it will work is by raising tarrif barriers.The US people will have an inferior product that cannot compete on the world market.More insanity and denial of the reality.The US people need to stand up and be counted before it is too late. It should read Tim,”Govt Motors Holdings”.They’ll be holding GMH back and costing the tax payer a bomb.Govts here in Aust cannot run a bank properly ie, all they have to do is generate currency and collect interest.

What chance has a high tech manufacturuing industry got,run by incompetent bureaucracy and competing against the likes if Toyota? The only way it will work is by raising tarrif barriers.The US people will have an inferior product that cannot compete on the world market.More insanity and denial of the reality.The US people need to stand up and be counted before it is too late.

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]]> By: Kevinhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21309 Kevin Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:53:57 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21309 i understand he is speaking of the collective U.S. I was just pointing out the fact that not only is providing GM with federal dollars fascist, but it ALSO is furthering the gap between the rich and the average American. I'm not trying to start a class-battle, although it is an interesting topic. i understand he is speaking of the collective U.S. I was just pointing out the fact that not only is providing GM with federal dollars fascist, but it ALSO is furthering the gap between the rich and the average American. I’m not trying to start a class-battle, although it is an interesting topic.

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]]> By: Lindsey Brutushttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21308 Lindsey Brutus Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:50:16 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21308 Kevin: What does your comment have to do with the GM Bankruptcy? When Ron speaks of everyone getting poorer he is speaking of the collective U.S. and not wealthy vs non-wealthy. There is no mention of a tax raise for every one either in this statement. Class warfare is very un-American and is a practice engaged in only by true liberals. I'm sure you're not one of those! Kevin: What does your comment have to do with the GM Bankruptcy? When Ron speaks of everyone getting poorer he is speaking of the collective U.S. and not wealthy vs non-wealthy. There is no mention of a tax raise for every one either in this statement. Class warfare is very un-American and is a practice engaged in only by true liberals. I’m sure you’re not one of those!

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]]> By: Kevinhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-08/government-motors-obamas-engine-of-wealth-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-21299 Kevin Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:44:39 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2664#comment-21299 I agree except for one thing, not everyone is getting poorer. Around 95% of all wealth is owned by 5% of all people. An equal tax raise on all people destroys the wealth of all, but it also destroys the wealth of the bottom 95% drastically while the top 5% go on virtually unchanged. That is evidenced in the fact that the construction of $200-300K houses is virtually extinct, while homes that cost in excess of $3 Million are selling at an all time high. I agree except for one thing, not everyone is getting poorer. Around 95% of all wealth is owned by 5% of all people. An equal tax raise on all people destroys the wealth of all, but it also destroys the wealth of the bottom 95% drastically while the top 5% go on virtually unchanged. That is evidenced in the fact that the construction of $200-300K houses is virtually extinct, while homes that cost in excess of $3 Million are selling at an all time high.

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