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> <channel><title>Comments on: Ron Paul: Leave Iran Alone!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-19/ron-paul-the-only-member-of-the-house-to-back-obama-on-iran/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-19/ron-paul-the-only-member-of-the-house-to-back-obama-on-iran/</link> <description>Ron Paul is America&#039;s leading voice for limited, constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, sound money, and a pro-American foreign policy.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:04:24 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-19/ron-paul-the-only-member-of-the-house-to-back-obama-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-102866</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:57:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-102866</guid> <description>Well, i would tend to agree with Ron Paul on this one, just manage our own affairs and simply leave the rest of the world alone, we would have saved ourselves an awful lot of trouble, expense and lives had we simply always done so.Anyway, since the topic is appropriate, and since this is the first thing i thought of when i saw it, i think many will get a good laugh out of this one.........................................There&#039;s an Englishman, an Iranian and an American who are walking along a beach one day and they come across a bottle half buried in the sand.  They pick up the bottle and wipe it off to see what it is and out comes a genie who informs them that they have 3 wishes coming as a reward for setting him free.The Englishman goes first and wishes for a million dollars.  The genie waves his hand and a briefcase appears in front of him containing a million dollars, so the Englishman grabs his money and is on his way.Then its the Iranian&#039;s turn, and he wishes for a 10,000 foot high impenetrable wall around the country of Iran, presumably to protect his homeland.  The genie waves his hand and says that his wish has been granted.Then its the American&#039;s turn and the genie asks him what he wants.  The American says hold on a minute, now this wall you put just put around Iran, its in place now is that right ?.  The genie says yes.  And the wall is completely impenetrable, nothing can get in or out ?.  The genie says yes, and asks the American now what is your wish ?.  The American says &quot;Fill it with water&quot;:)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i would tend to agree with <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> on this one, just manage our own affairs and simply leave the rest of the world alone, we would have saved ourselves an awful lot of trouble, expense and lives had we simply always done so.</p><p>Anyway, since the topic is appropriate, and since this is the first thing i thought of when i saw it, i think many will get a good laugh out of this one.</p><p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>There&#8217;s an Englishman, an Iranian and an American who are walking along a beach one day and they come across a bottle half buried in the sand.  They pick up the bottle and wipe it off to see what it is and out comes a genie who informs them that they have 3 wishes coming as a reward for setting him free.</p><p>The Englishman goes first and wishes for a million dollars.  The genie waves his hand and a briefcase appears in front of him containing a million dollars, so the Englishman grabs his money and is on his way.</p><p>Then its the Iranian&#8217;s turn, and he wishes for a 10,000 foot high impenetrable wall around the country of Iran, presumably to protect his homeland.  The genie waves his hand and says that his wish has been granted.</p><p>Then its the American&#8217;s turn and the genie asks him what he wants.  The American says hold on a minute, now this wall you put just put around Iran, its in place now is that right ?.  The genie says yes.  And the wall is completely impenetrable, nothing can get in or out ?.  The genie says yes, and asks the American now what is your wish ?.  The American says &#8220;Fill it with water&#8221;</p><p> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-102860</guid> <description>Ron is just plain wrong on the M.E. The Founders didn&#039;t expect us NOT to express our opinions at others belligerence The real early history shows that we  DID mean to get involved at times in international affairs from the beginning. We sent our navy to the subterranean to fight Muslim pirates in the 1790s for one thing! Ron is right on most other things though, like the FED.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron is just plain wrong on the M.E. The Founders didn&#8217;t expect us NOT to express our opinions at others belligerence The real early history shows that we  DID mean to get involved at times in international affairs from the beginning. We sent our navy to the subterranean to fight Muslim pirates in the 1790s for one thing! Ron is right on most other things though, like the FED.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-97723</guid> <description>Reflections And Warnings - An Interview With Aaron Russo {1 hr. 35 min}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQAaron Russo has passed, but he left some important insights in this video for our benefit.  Helps to know the truth while look at the horrific world events planned so long ago and continuing to unfold just as he said.  Endless war on terror, a fraud. It can only continue if Americans volunteer to fight this fictitious war.SEPTEMBER CLUES A-B-C-D-E-F-G
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXda5Kn2LAMMcFadden wanted to end the FED.
Lincoln wanted to use greenbacks instead of dollars.
JFK wanted to veer away from the FED with a different monetary system.
Saddam wanted to use euros instead of dollars.
Iran wants to use euros instead of dollars.US Begins Massive Military Build Up Around Iran, Sending Up To 4 New Carrier Groups In Region
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=3552%3Aus-begins-massive-build-up-of-military-forces-around-iran&amp;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&amp;Itemid=105&amp;lang=enGerman navy frigate sails to Iran in military build up
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=3553%3Agerman-navy-frigate-sails-to-iran-in-military-build-up-&amp;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&amp;Itemid=105&amp;lang=en
There appear to be plans to repeat the Nazis tactic of putting the impoverished into the army and rekicking the economy by starting a war.We prefer the govt reduce the mortgages to market value for homeowners so they can stay in their homes, open up credit to business owners to promote job growth so unemployed Americans can return to work.  This is an honest way to kickstart the economy growth.  We&#039;re sick of war after war everywhere.  Our lives are much more valuable than the globalist&#039;s financial and power hungry games.  The lives of people everywhere are more important.  &quot;We the people&quot; are not the ones wanting these undeclared, unconstitutional, preemptive wars.rEVOLution
non-violent, non-compliance, non-cooperation
Restore the Republic! Freedom!
Shut down the Federal Reserve.
Shut down the IRS.
End these criminal wars and bring the troops home, shut down military bases the world over.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reflections And Warnings &#8211; An Interview With Aaron Russo {1 hr. 35 min}<br
/> <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ</a></p><p>Aaron Russo has passed, but he left some important insights in this video for our benefit.  Helps to know the truth while look at the horrific world events planned so long ago and continuing to unfold just as he said.  Endless war on terror, a fraud. It can only continue if Americans <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com/misc/how-can-i-help/" >volunteer</a> to fight this fictitious war.</p><p>SEPTEMBER CLUES A-B-C-D-E-F-G<br
/> <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXda5Kn2LAM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXda5Kn2LAM</a></p><p>McFadden wanted to <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com/buy-end-the-fed.php" >end the FED</a>.<br
/> Lincoln wanted to use greenbacks instead of dollars.<br
/> JFK wanted to veer away from the FED with a different monetary system.<br
/> Saddam wanted to use euros instead of dollars.<br
/> Iran wants to use euros instead of dollars.</p><p>US Begins Massive Military Build Up Around Iran, Sending Up To 4 New Carrier Groups In Region<br
/> <a
href="http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=3552%3Aus-begins-massive-build-up-of-military-forces-around-iran&#038;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&#038;Itemid=105&#038;lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=3552%3Aus-begins-massive-build-up-of-military-forces-around-iran&#038;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&#038;Itemid=105&#038;lang=en</a></p><p>German navy frigate sails to Iran in military build up<br
/> <a
href="http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=3553%3Agerman-navy-frigate-sails-to-iran-in-military-build-up-&#038;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&#038;Itemid=105&#038;lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=3553%3Agerman-navy-frigate-sails-to-iran-in-military-build-up-&#038;catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&#038;Itemid=105&#038;lang=en</a><br
/> There appear to be plans to repeat the Nazis tactic of putting the impoverished into the army and rekicking the economy by starting a war.</p><p>We prefer the govt reduce the mortgages to market value for homeowners so they can stay in their homes, open up credit to business owners to promote job growth so unemployed Americans can return to work.  This is an honest way to kickstart the economy growth.  We&#8217;re sick of war after war everywhere.  Our lives are much more valuable than the globalist&#8217;s financial and power hungry games.  The lives of people everywhere are more important.  &#8220;We the people&#8221; are not the ones wanting these undeclared, unconstitutional, preemptive wars.</p><p>rEVOLution<br
/> non-violent, non-compliance, non-cooperation<br
/> Restore the Republic! Freedom!<br
/> Shut down the <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com/legislation/audit-the-federal-reserve-fed-hr-459-s202/" >Federal Reserve</a>.<br
/> Shut down the IRS.<br
/> End these criminal wars and bring the troops home, shut down military bases the world over.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-80084</guid> <description>Free Personal Horoscope 2010 : http://astroloveh.co.cc</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Personal Horoscope 2010 : <a
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-23889</guid> <description>Once again, Ron Paul stands alone in obeying the Constitution and his Congressional oath. I wonder if any other country passed such a resolution? I dont think so. Only the U.S. thinks it has the right and duty to meddle in the affairs of others. Thank you sir!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, <a
href="http://www.ronpaul.com" >Ron Paul</a> stands alone in obeying the Constitution and his Congressional oath. I wonder if any other country passed such a resolution? I dont think so. Only the U.S. thinks it has the right and duty to meddle in the affairs of others. Thank you sir!</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-23363</guid> <description>Hello ,Logan HaarzThey (Sultanate of Morocco)  were attaching U.S. trade ships and holding sailors hostage . That is the reason we have a navy . You misunderstood the difference between respect for a sovereign country and an act of war by a foreign power .Ron is in my opinion right on this one . If there was voter fraud and a true majority of the people support the demonstrators then the incumbent will prevail . Let the Iranian people have the dignity they deserve to fix there own problems . I surly would not want any foreign power trying to fix any of our internal messes .Hughey</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello ,Logan Haarz</p><p>They (Sultanate of Morocco)  were attaching U.S. trade ships and holding sailors hostage . That is the reason we have a navy . You misunderstood the difference between respect for a sovereign country and an act of war by a foreign power .</p><p>Ron is in my opinion right on this one . If there was voter fraud and a true majority of the people support the demonstrators then the incumbent will prevail . Let the Iranian people have the dignity they deserve to fix there own problems . I surly would not want any foreign power trying to fix any of our internal messes .</p><p>Hughey</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-22806</guid> <description>Logic? No, no, no... lol... Good God, no! I rarely if ever argue using logic! Any logician worth their salt will tell you that logic is too easily turned inside out and stood on it&#039;s head. That&#039;s why logical arguments almost always become a debate about logic fallacy.Logic fallacy: modified noun : when one&#039;s argument doesn&#039;t mirror their opponents argument!So I stay away from logic whenever I can and instead opt for facts and principles. And the facts are... The north African nations involved in the Barbary Wars not only supported piracy, but provided for it. These pirates attacked U.S. (among other nations) merchant ships. The U.S. nor any other nation did anything to provoke this. So principle dictates that military action was justified.There are a few courses of action that can be taken once facts and principles are established. But first I must confess that I&#039;m not entirely sure, in fact not very sure at all (I have a life outside of world matters, funny as that sounds), what the case is with Somalia. But it still all depends on what the facts are that would guide our principled in/actions.IF Somalia is in support of the pirates, then at some point they will have to be dealt with, wheather by annexation or by means of crippling their ability to support piracy. If the Congress were to decide against annexation, then we would attack them to cripple their pirating capabilities only, which would include any means nessecary to end the continued threat. If Congress decided to annex, then we fight the battle to annex of course. Simple.IF, on the other hand, the Somali govt simply lacks the means to controll their waters, but otherwise desires to cooperate, then the U.S. can justify the presense of our navy in that part of the world to deal with the pirates. But IF the Somali govt doesn&#039;t agree to that policing effort, then, yes, we could justifiably annex them (but not cripple them, as that would solve nothing) on the grounds that they are unwilling/unable to cooperate in policing their waters. Of course, we wouldn&#039;t HAVE TO annex Somalia, as our navy can more than likely to stand up to whatever their government would do in protest to their presence there. So we could probably defeat the pirates with or without approval, annexation being un-nessecary to that objective.In the case of the Barbary Wars, it was decided that crippling capability was the best course of action. They wouldn&#039;t back down, which naturally they did not desire cooperation in dealing with the problem, and we did not want to add them to our nation. Crippling retaliation then was nessecary because that was the only course left, given that the government of those nations was in support of the piracy.Again, and getting back to the dictatses of logic... ONLY facts, principles, and practicality (with none being absent the others) can guide foreign policy. Otherwise, we may as well use false information, because logic alone can lead us and others down a potentialy more dangerous road.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logic? No, no, no&#8230; lol&#8230; Good God, no! I rarely if ever argue using logic! Any logician worth their salt will tell you that logic is too easily turned inside out and stood on it&#8217;s head. That&#8217;s why logical arguments almost always become a debate about logic fallacy.</p><p>Logic fallacy: modified noun : when one&#8217;s argument doesn&#8217;t mirror their opponents argument!</p><p>So I stay away from logic whenever I can and instead opt for facts and principles. And the facts are&#8230; The north African nations involved in the Barbary Wars not only supported piracy, but provided for it. These pirates attacked U.S. (among other nations) merchant ships. The U.S. nor any other nation did anything to provoke this. So principle dictates that military action was justified.</p><p>There are a few courses of action that can be taken once facts and principles are established. But first I must confess that I&#8217;m not entirely sure, in fact not very sure at all (I have a life outside of world matters, funny as that sounds), what the case is with Somalia. But it still all depends on what the facts are that would guide our principled in/actions.</p><p>IF Somalia is in support of the pirates, then at some point they will have to be dealt with, wheather by annexation or by means of crippling their ability to support piracy. If the Congress were to decide against annexation, then we would attack them to cripple their pirating capabilities only, which would include any means nessecary to end the continued threat. If Congress decided to annex, then we fight the battle to annex of course. Simple.</p><p>IF, on the other hand, the Somali govt simply lacks the means to controll their waters, but otherwise desires to cooperate, then the U.S. can justify the presense of our navy in that part of the world to deal with the pirates. But IF the Somali govt doesn&#8217;t agree to that policing effort, then, yes, we could justifiably annex them (but not cripple them, as that would solve nothing) on the grounds that they are unwilling/unable to cooperate in policing their waters. Of course, we wouldn&#8217;t HAVE TO annex Somalia, as our navy can more than likely to stand up to whatever their government would do in protest to their presence there. So we could probably defeat the pirates with or without approval, annexation being un-nessecary to that objective.</p><p>In the case of the Barbary Wars, it was decided that crippling capability was the best course of action. They wouldn&#8217;t back down, which naturally they did not desire cooperation in dealing with the problem, and we did not want to add them to our nation. Crippling retaliation then was nessecary because that was the only course left, given that the government of those nations was in support of the piracy.</p><p>Again, and getting back to the dictatses of logic&#8230; ONLY facts, principles, and practicality (with none being absent the others) can guide foreign policy. Otherwise, we may as well use false information, because logic alone can lead us and others down a potentialy more dangerous road.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=2985#comment-22773</guid> <description>The purpose of wars are not the &quot;patriotic&quot; reasons we are told they are for.  They are for profit and domination, control over others.  The US instigates them a lot of the time.  The deceptions are perpetrated over time and, every time there is another war, they say we are protecting our freedom and going for peace.  The odd thing is, that&#039;s never happened.  We are not more free.  We are not more peaceful because of war.  We are less free and in more turmoil due to wars.  Americans are lied to by our governmental political leaders and people&#039;s lives are destroyed, on both sides...including the families.  My beliefs do not support war and the lies that are used to convince people to fall away from and waiver from truthful, moral beliefs.Now if we put forth efforts to be friendly with other nations, minded our own business at home, our world and the world at large would be a friendlier place to be.  Instead we have a world with people in government and banking industries who are concerned with world domination and having an overt sense of power and control over everyone and everything.  Of course they would view others as &quot;enemies&quot; in their &quot;game&quot; of power and control.  They have to use manipulative plans to convince us to see others as enemies all the time.  But we do not.  They are regular folks with families, dreams and wishes just like we do.  We see human beings who want to live in peace just as we do.Rather than control over others, these supposed intelligent leaders need to gain self-control.They use people in the military to accomplish their goals and it makes the world less and less like the place God intended it to be.  It&#039;s also a display of how little they value life.  Where are the pro-life folks?This round of fighting all started when the US government caused, planned and executed the destruction of the twin towers and building 7, when 3,000 of our own citizens died.  (see Zeitgeist The Movie on YouTube.com) People&#039;s lives are so incidental to their new world order game.  3,000 Americans + all these to manipulate the minds of people into believing we have enemies so they can achieve world domination and control over oil and the money and power associated with the oil and sale of weapons.If 911 were real, and we did have an enemy that caused 3,000 deaths in New York, we can imagine how Iraqi citizens feel, knowing the daily losses of life they are suffering at US hands and all the destruction going on there in their country.  They don&#039;t show us the magnitude in the news, but a look at these numbers of deaths totaled below and knowing the magnitude of 911 and 3,000 people experiencing horrible deaths.... we can imagine what has been occuring not on just one day, but over years since 2001 to ?  When will it end?Patriotic statements are made over and over again, but they really have lost their true meaning.  Instead of being used because we are proud of our accomplishments and how our citizens thrive and live such wonderful lives, they are now used now to get as many people as they can to rally behind some of the most destructive acts of violence against humanity.  What is the gain when there is so much loss of life and ....we still have not figured out a way to have peace.  Peace will come only when we choose to be peaceful.US Military Deaths (Iraq): 4,316
US Military Wounded: 31,354
Iraqi Civilian Deaths: 151,000
&#039;Excess&#039; Iraqi Deaths: 655,000totals from http://www.michaelmoore.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of wars are not the &#8220;patriotic&#8221; reasons we are told they are for.  They are for profit and domination, control over others.  The US instigates them a lot of the time.  The deceptions are perpetrated over time and, every time there is another war, they say we are protecting our freedom and going for peace.  The odd thing is, that&#8217;s never happened.  We are not more free.  We are not more peaceful because of war.  We are less free and in more turmoil due to wars.  Americans are lied to by our governmental political leaders and people&#8217;s lives are destroyed, on both sides&#8230;including the families.  My beliefs do not support war and the lies that are used to convince people to fall away from and waiver from truthful, moral beliefs.</p><p>Now if we put forth efforts to be friendly with other nations, minded our own business at home, our world and the world at large would be a friendlier place to be.  Instead we have a world with people in government and banking industries who are concerned with world domination and having an overt sense of power and control over everyone and everything.  Of course they would view others as &#8220;enemies&#8221; in their &#8220;game&#8221; of power and control.  They have to use manipulative plans to convince us to see others as enemies all the time.  But we do not.  They are regular folks with families, dreams and wishes just like we do.  We see human beings who want to live in peace just as we do.</p><p>Rather than control over others, these supposed intelligent leaders need to gain self-control.</p><p>They use people in the military to accomplish their goals and it makes the world less and less like the place God intended it to be.  It&#8217;s also a display of how little they value life.  Where are the pro-life folks?</p><p>This round of fighting all started when the US government caused, planned and executed the destruction of the twin towers and building 7, when 3,000 of our own citizens died.  (see Zeitgeist The Movie on YouTube.com) People&#8217;s lives are so incidental to their new world order game.  3,000 Americans + all these to manipulate the minds of people into believing we have enemies so they can achieve world domination and control over oil and the money and power associated with the oil and sale of weapons.</p><p>If 911 were real, and we did have an enemy that caused 3,000 deaths in New York, we can imagine how Iraqi citizens feel, knowing the daily losses of life they are suffering at US hands and all the destruction going on there in their country.  They don&#8217;t show us the magnitude in the news, but a look at these numbers of deaths totaled below and knowing the magnitude of 911 and 3,000 people experiencing horrible deaths&#8230;. we can imagine what has been occuring not on just one day, but over years since 2001 to ?  When will it end?</p><p>Patriotic statements are made over and over again, but they really have lost their true meaning.  Instead of being used because we are proud of our accomplishments and how our citizens thrive and live such wonderful lives, they are now used now to get as many people as they can to rally behind some of the most destructive acts of violence against humanity.  What is the gain when there is so much loss of life and &#8230;.we still have not figured out a way to have peace.  Peace will come only when we choose to be peaceful.</p><p>US Military Deaths (Iraq): 4,316<br
/> US Military Wounded: 31,354<br
/> Iraqi Civilian Deaths: 151,000<br
/> &#8216;Excess&#8217; Iraqi Deaths: 655,000</p><p>totals from <a
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http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06192009.htmlThis was posted above.
It shows exactly why we need to stop meddling.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>longshotlouie Jun 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm Are the Iranian Protests Another US Orchestrated “Color Revolution?”<br
/> <a
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/> It shows exactly why we need to stop meddling.</p><p><small>Like or Dislike:</small> <img
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