Comments on: Returning to a Free Market in Healthcare http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/ Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. The Ron Paul Revolution continues. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:32:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: paulhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-41224 paul Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:40:04 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-41224 Hey this is a very interesting article! Hey this is a very interesting article!

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]]> By: Teresahttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-27146 Teresa Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:46:02 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-27146 Of course I do not advocate a 'nutrition czar', however, it makes more sense for the government to say what you can eat rather than pay for a bunch of health care we wouldn't need if we made the proper decisions on our own. You completely misconstrued an idea that was a point to contrast how pathetic we, as a whole, eat. Our appetites are an illustration of how we cannot make the responsible choices that cause us to need health care. Your 'nutrition czar' is against the very liberty I rally. It was simply an example to show how we make poor choices then expect the government to financially bail us out. Economically, I'd much rather see a 'nutrition czar' before national health care because the results would be better for the country. Eating right would greatly reduce our overweight population which is what's driving up the costs associated with health care. We'd be healthier and it would be less expensive to implement and maintain than a bureaucratic health care nightmare passed by our legislature. The universal health care is much more the enemy of liberty, for it will let the government chose who lives and who dies. I read an article yesterday where an Oregon man was told that the state would not cover the patient's expensive treatment, but would pay for the cost of physician-assisted suicide [25 Jul 2009, Cato at Liberty blog]. In response to your taxation, how would that solve the problem? These people would still be eating and drinking their bodies to the point of needing that universal health care. I am not advocating a nutrition czar, although you made it sound as though I am. Just because I can create an argument for something does not mean that I advocate it. There is no statistic out there that can prove my theory wouldn't work, because it hasn't been tried. Unfortunately, your taxation solution has yet to show an answer to any problem. And, taxation, as you might recall is the greatest act against LIBERTY possible. Remember, the Declaration of Independence was drafted because of Parliament’s taxation tactics towards the Colonies. Of course I do not advocate a ‘nutrition czar’, however, it makes more sense for the government to say what you can eat rather than pay for a bunch of health care we wouldn’t need if we made the proper decisions on our own. You completely misconstrued an idea that was a point to contrast how pathetic we, as a whole, eat. Our appetites are an illustration of how we cannot make the responsible choices that cause us to need health care. Your ‘nutrition czar’ is against the very liberty I rally. It was simply an example to show how we make poor choices then expect the government to financially bail us out. Economically, I’d much rather see a ‘nutrition czar’ before national health care because the results would be better for the country. Eating right would greatly reduce our overweight population which is what’s driving up the costs associated with health care. We’d be healthier and it would be less expensive to implement and maintain than a bureaucratic health care nightmare passed by our legislature. The universal health care is much more the enemy of liberty, for it will let the government chose who lives and who dies. I read an article yesterday where an Oregon man was told that the state would not cover the patient’s expensive treatment, but would pay for the cost of physician-assisted suicide [25 Jul 2009, Cato at Liberty blog].
In response to your taxation, how would that solve the problem? These people would still be eating and drinking their bodies to the point of needing that universal health care. I am not advocating a nutrition czar, although you made it sound as though I am. Just because I can create an argument for something does not mean that I advocate it. There is no statistic out there that can prove my theory wouldn’t work, because it hasn’t been tried. Unfortunately, your taxation solution has yet to show an answer to any problem. And, taxation, as you might recall is the greatest act against LIBERTY possible. Remember, the Declaration of Independence was drafted because of Parliament’s taxation tactics towards the Colonies.

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]]> By: Craighttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-27137 Craig Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:50:15 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-27137 are you serious? are you saying you want a "Nutrition Czar" to tell us to eat? do understand the concept of Liberty? a 500% tax on fast food would be more logical, akin to the taxes on alcohol & tobacco are you serious? are you saying you want a “Nutrition Czar” to tell us to eat? do understand the concept of Liberty? a 500% tax on fast food would be more logical, akin to the taxes on alcohol & tobacco

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]]> By: E Perez Joneshttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26775 E Perez Jones Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:26:58 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26775 Hello:1- Health as a personal issue may be similar to a 'good', but patients (an ill person) CAN NOT be considered a client of a bussiness. Because that would change the mission of the health care sector.*** Are we there?*** people dying from serious illnesses are loosing their right to life (why so many?) so there is the indirect association for the public outcry.2- If the People are to contribute to the health system discussion effectively, I think we need to know:What exactly is this system, how many sectors, how many people (please include the first step in the chain, basic research), how much money goes in it from private sector and from tax payers, how many jobs it provides, AND the results per sector.*** the PEOPLE have never cared to know and WE should.3- A very important question to ask is why do we have so many sick people?*** we need real numbers compared to other health systems, then make a fast decision tailored to USA. Globalization and some free market is good but WE still need to be part of a country, or shall we start picking services throughout the globe, erase borders and have no country names, and start having global elections and constitutions?3- How come is it that most people shown on internet and all this campaigns look sooo very healthy, bust most people you encounter every day, even among the wealthiest town in USA, look soooo run down and wild???*** which one is real is important to answer before the correct decisions can be made and no precious money and resources are wasted.*** Start by creating millions of jobs and the numbers of real illnesses will become clear.I believe the health care system should be a strong pilar of society, in terms of REAL health and SOLID economics since it contributes a fixed minimum of essential jobs.We NEED A REAL WORLD, please. Hello:

1- Health as a personal issue may be similar to a ‘good’, but patients (an ill person) CAN NOT be considered a client of a bussiness. Because that would change the mission of the health care sector.

*** Are we there?

*** people dying from serious illnesses are loosing their right to life (why so many?) so there is the indirect association for the public outcry.

2- If the People are to contribute to the health system discussion effectively, I think we need to know:

What exactly is this system, how many sectors, how many people (please include the first step in the chain, basic research), how much money goes in it from private sector and from tax payers, how many jobs it provides, AND the results per sector.

*** the PEOPLE have never cared to know and WE should.

3- A very important question to ask is why do we have so many sick people?

*** we need real numbers compared to other health systems, then make a fast decision tailored to USA. Globalization and some free market is good but WE still need to be part of a country, or shall we start picking services throughout the globe, erase borders and have no country names, and start having global elections and constitutions?

3- How come is it that most people shown on internet and all this campaigns look sooo very healthy, bust most people you encounter every day, even among the wealthiest town in USA, look soooo run down and wild???

*** which one is real is important to answer before the correct decisions can be made and no precious money and resources are wasted.

*** Start by creating millions of jobs and the numbers of real illnesses will become clear.

I believe the health care system should be a strong pilar of society, in terms of REAL health and SOLID economics since it contributes a fixed minimum of essential jobs.

We NEED A REAL WORLD, please.

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]]> By: VRhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26746 VR Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:25:03 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26746 Carry this short message to DC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXgHNX_uZ2E&feature=player_embedded Carry this short message to DC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXgHNX_uZ2E&feature=player_embedded

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]]> By: Christinehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26740 Christine Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:01:43 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26740 Thanks for the link. I put it in an email to pass around. That massive, complex chart of the Obama Care Plan is a great visual to use ....Educate America! Thanks for the link. I put it in an email to pass around. That massive, complex chart of the Obama Care Plan is a great visual to use ….Educate America!

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]]> By: VRhttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26732 VR Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:34:14 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26732 Stand Up or Shut Up http://www.resistnet.com/ Stand Up or Shut Up
http://www.resistnet.com/

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]]> By: crazykitkathttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26731 crazykitkat Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:22:50 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26731 What if that someone is a child? Why should the child suffer because of the sins of his/her parent's? What if that someone is a child? Why should the child suffer because of the sins of his/her parent’s?

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]]> By: Lawrence Beattiehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26660 Lawrence Beattie Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:11:36 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26660 testing testing

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]]> By: Lawrence B Beattiehttp://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-20/returning-to-a-free-market-in-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-26652 Lawrence B Beattie Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:40:13 +0000 http://www.ronpaul.com/?p=3362#comment-26652 If health care was a true free enterprise system the cost would be controlled by the markets and there would be coverage for just about every person. It is highly regulated, does not support alternative medicine (government regulators influenced by helth care industry), sells the same medicine for less cost in other countries, does not allow a worldwide open market for US consumers (again, by government regulations), and has no incentives for cost control because there is little or no competition. If health care was a true free enterprise system the cost would be controlled by the markets and there would be coverage for just about every person. It is highly regulated, does not support alternative medicine (government regulators influenced by helth care industry), sells the same medicine for less cost in other countries, does not allow a worldwide open market for US consumers (again, by government regulations), and has no incentives for cost control because there is little or no competition.

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