30 responses to “Ron Paul and Daniel Hannan on Healthcare”

  1. christine

    Thank you longshotlouie! It has been pretty quiet around here for a couple of days.

    What are Obama’s investments in biotech companies apparently developing the “bird” and “swine” flu vaccine?

    http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/obamas-investments-in-biotech-companies-apparently-developing-the-bird-and-swine-flu/

    Worthy of investigation and criminal charges in my opinion for pushing this whole idea of the pandemic and the contaminated flu vaccines on entire countries. He plans on making a few bucks and work on his NWO plan at the same time, depopulation. NOT!

    Now think about this for a minute…Do you want this president or any of our government to be in charge of our health care knowing they are capable of genocide? This should quickly end the discussion to reach the only conclusion. NO! Absolutely not.

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  2. longshotlouie
  3. longshotlouie

    According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, “no pandemic in earth’s history has ever evolved divorced from major socio-economic and political upheaval.”
    http://preventdisease.com/news/09/081809_swine_flu_hype.shtml

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  4. Freemenright!

    Very interesting and shocking!! When will Jane Burgermeister’s charges against the mentioned be heard??
    Why has the press not run the story?
    Many many more questions……
    If this can happen – what else could be going on?

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    1. christine

      Yesterday, Rebecca Campbell filed her complaint in Seattle, Washington. Next step is to take it to the media. I also live in Washington. Rebecca’s link to follow her case in process. She would like to win the case AND it is very important to get media attention, awareness. It costs $.15 to follow the case online.

      The case was officially filed a 1:57 PM PDT and its Case File No. is 09-2-30453-0 SEA
      http://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/Clerk.aspx

      About the case filed, guidance for filing a case yourself, and the next case to be filed in Florida:

      http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=367%3Acomplaint-to-stop-enforced-vaccinations-in-washhington-state-filed-on-monday&catid=41%3Atop-headlines&lang=en

      I beleive Jane’s case is in process in Austria.

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      1. Freemenright!

        Once again thank you for the information and your response.

        I have read an article in the UK’s Daily Telegraph which reports on a survey carried out on nurses working in the NHS. Over 60% of the nurses surveyed would not want the vaccine while over 30% would simply refuse it. The report went on to criticise the need for the vaccination and one nurse claimed that it was government propoganda!!
        However the government official chooses to ignore the nursing professionals and said that the vaccine would be licensed!!
        I spoke with a nurse today who told me she would not be having the vaccination and that her veiw was representative of her immediate colleagues.
        I hope you find the article and forward it to as many people as you can!!!
        I am forwarding information to anybody who can raise the profile of this as I think it is outrageous that improperly tested vaccines can be put to market prematurely in the so called guise of health protection!!
        I hope that this topic gets full exposure and properly debated very soon in the press!!!!!

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    2. christine

      I absolutely love Daniel Hannan!! He’s a political hero.

      I’d like Daniel to use his political platform and take it to the media. I get supercharged listening to him. He is a most sane man, a truthteller with a strong voice. That would be a grand stand for the world, not just for the Uk or America. This is a worldwide all out attack against humanity.

      Here is a link to the UK’s Daily Telegraph with numerous articles about the vaccine.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/search/?queryText=vaccine

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6043612/Only-a-third-of-nurses-willing-to-have-swine-flu-vaccine-poll.html

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    3. christine

      Doctors told to watch for Guillain-Barre syndrome during Swine flu vaccination programme

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6038460/Doctors-told-to-watch-for-Guillain-Barre-syndrome-during-Swine-flu-vaccination-programme.html

      60 minutes – SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING – Part I
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo

      60 minutes – SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING – Part 2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4c9Is1T3z4&feature=related

      The disease is in the vaccination!

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  5. Lindsey Brutus

    The issue of euthanasia is real and I am glad that Ron Paul has spoken so firmly against it. On this issue he joins Sarah Palin in recognizing the slippery slope this could become. God bless Ron and Sarah!

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  6. christine

    Practice a Little Preventative Medicine …and Stop Our Government NOW.

    I know many of us are justifiably complaining about issues with our government. Some of us are feeling there is little that we can do to actually see an immediate change, some relief from so much negativity coming at us at once. We’re enduring financial hardships, joblessness, and seeing our liberties being taken away by the passing of each new law, our personal wealth stolen and our kids in debt before they have even been born.

    Well, I suggest to you now that each one of us has an opportunity right now, TODAY, to make a huge change in the course of history and help our nation avoid a lot more misery, pain and suffering.

    No one here doubts that much of our government is secretive and working against us. We are angry about the shadow government, the elite bankers and those within the FED, with Goldman Sachs and major corporations who are surrounding us like an army, taking our wealth and taking our country down. We have felt helpless. This all goes against what America is to us in our hearts was at its inception. It is land of a free people, not an oppressed people.

    http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=352%3Acomplaint-to-stop-enforced-vaccinations-in-washington-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en

    I would like you to take a look at a complaint being filed in Washington State. The print is tiny (CTRL+ will give you larger print). Be sure to read through it all the way to the end. You will get an education! If you have anger towards any of the elite and secret groups, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM ! YOUR COMPLAINT CAN CAUSE AN INVESTIGATION AND CRIMINAL CHARGES TO BE LEVELED AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE HARMED US AND CONTINUE TO HARM US. They won’t stop themselves, so we have to. We call it then end of tyranny. Let’s get back to living fully in freedom. We need to eradicate them from our financial and governmental system! This complaint summarizes one of the largest crimes planned against Americans and other people around the world, ever! This is global. It will start in a couple of months, mid-October, so we haven’t much time to act. Point by point, you will see that this fall our government with several other organizations listed in the complaint have actually planned to harm us in ways we could never have ever imagine. Obama has appeared on television telling us how he has encouraged several countries to be prepared to also force vaccinate its citizens. As he puts it “they are responsibly prepared”. Nice sounding, but far from nice.

    Names like Goldman Sachs, the elite bankers, criminal syndicate, the World Health Organization (WHO) and many others, several in Illinois, and drug executives who plan to make a lot of money from the sale of a vaccine for the H1N1 virus, but this vaccine is contaminated and lethal. A criminal indictment has firstly been filed against WHO and others by Jane Bergermeister.

    Charges Filed Against Baxter and Avir
    http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/

    Help take down the criminals who have stolen so much from us already, and who now plan to systematically take our very lives, once again under the guise of helping us. No, they are not helping us, they are helping themselves to everything we own if we die from this vaccine! There is so much documentation. Get legal counsel if you need to. Talk it over with others, but please consider filing a complaint in your state. Who will stand up and put your anger to good use? As Ron Paul says, we need to convert that energy of anger into good use. Here’s your opportunity.

    A Guide to Filing for an Injunction in a State
    http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=351%3Aa-guide-to-filing-an-injunction-in-a-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en

    You can also visit my website at http://livingquests.com for links to more interviews with Jane, videos and info. It’s not a fancy website, but it will do for now.

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  7. christine

    Complaint to stop enforced vaccinations in Washington State

    http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=352%3Acomplaint-to-stop-enforced-vaccinations-in-washington-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en

    YEAH!! You can file a case as well to stop the mandatory vaccinations of our citizens! She says it’s easy. Instructions below.

    http://www.theflucase.com
    http://www.bird666.wordpress.com

    A Guide to Filing for an Injunction in a State

    http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=351%3Aa-guide-to-filing-an-injunction-in-a-state&catid=1%3Alatest-news&lang=en

    The Sates are to uphold our constitutional rights!!
    Liberty, not Tyranny! File a complaint in your state!
    End this senseless terror inside our country!

    Power is in the hands of the people! …in the constitution.

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  8. christine

    Horrors of Vaccination Exposed and Illustrated in a petition to the President to abolish compulaory vaccination in the Army and Navy, a book from 1919

    http://www.drcarley.com/Horrors_of_Vaccination_Exposed.pdf

    America and the world need governments to return to the constitutional rights of the individual, and in failing to do so, it is our duty as Americans to abolish any laws against our inalienable rights. Our government, the United States Corporation, has gone seriously wayward.

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  9. Freemenright!

    There is a good interview on youtube thats worth watching as it is typical of what Daniel Hannan has recently commented on US TV regarding the bureaucracy and short comings of the British NHS health system(which I am in agreemnt with Daniel Hannan). “GMTV where the interviewer/tv presenter has questioned a government minister of the Uk’s NHS health system introducing more bureaucracy and what are likely to be poor expensive services to be paid for by the tax payer! The presenter questions the already over bureaucratic service and its ever escalating costs which continue fail to deliver cost efectively. However, It is particularly sensitive and personal to the tv presenter as his daughter almost died through side effects of drugs being administered without proper diagnosis or being administered thru a proper phycian!! Although we are told in the UK that swine flu is huge and dangerous it appears very few people have really contracted anything more than summer colds etc, although it has been possible to call over the telephone and pick up the drugs form libraries and other centres not connected to the NHS! Tax payer funded drugs(tamiflu) have also been available on Ebay!! Yet this interview raises questions on how the british government have raced to hand out drugs without actually testing or proper diagnosis. search/google – Andrew Castle GMTV swine flu. A whopping waste of tax payers money!!!!!!

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    1. christine

      …because several governments are behaving dangerously and up to no good with the manufactuerd bird flu pandemic and the contaminated vaccine. There is evidence and a lawsuit filed against the World Health Organization (WHO) and Obama. Several others have also filed lawsuits. In what I have read, there is a shocking plan to reduce the world’s population by many millions of people. The vehicle is the vaccination. In our US laws, the government can force vaccinations and even use martial law. This is the most urgent item of all since flu season is just around the corner. In a couple of months we will be faced with a choice, to vaccinate or not. In the law, if someone should be vaccinated and suffer an adverse effect (death, sickness, crippling), there is no legal recourse for the recipient for faulty “medicine”. Why? Because it is faulty and they know it. Do not vaccinate. Because of the urgency, I quickly converted my little website to share some of the links I have come across in my research. I think it is almost prophetic that I chose the name of this website long before I knew any of this.

      http://livingquests.com
      http://notmainstreammedianews.blogspot.com
      (unorganized collection of links as I learned more about many topics)

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      1. Freemenright!

        Thank you for your reply.. Today Sunday in the UK the news paper ‘The Mail on Sunday’ ran a story warning of the risks associated with the vaccine for swine flu!! I hope you get a chance to read it.
        From reading the article it seems the government here are ignoring the risks that have been flagged up by experts!! PS. I will visit your website
        Has the vaccine been tested and if so do you know where the results will be published? If the vaccine has not been tested then presumably the vaccine is not safe to administer to the public and further more it would put several million people in danger thru having the vaccine!!
        I WILL NOT ALLOW ME OR MY CHILDREN TO BE EXPOSED TO THIS VACCINE!!!!
        The people pushing this vaccine are obviously not doing it in the interests of public health. It is also worth pointing out that most people I speak with think that the Swine Flu is suspicious and the rush to call it a pandemic seems to have been at the very least premature!!
        I will let as many people know as possible…
        Who is the manufacturer of the vaccine???

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        1. christine

          Jane Bergermeister is the one who filed the main lawsuit against the World Health Organization (WHO), Obama, Baxter and others.

          Important Websites to Keep Informed
          http://birdflu666.wordpress.com
          http://theflucase.com

          For anyone who is working towards preserving our liberty, freedom from tyranny…check out the agenda (there’s always an agenda) from the Swine Flu Conference held in Washington D.C., especially #2 & #6

          http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/32605.html
          http://www.new-fields.com/ISFC/brochure.pdf

          another poster under a different Health forum category posted this:

          “OUTBREAK!
          Swine flu vaccine linked to deadly nerve disease?
          Leaked letters raise fears of repeat of ’1976 debacle’
          Posted: August 15, 2009
          8:10 pm Eastern

          © 2009 WorldNetDaily

          Injection

          Two letters from the U.K.’s Health Protection Agency to top neurologists, sent on the eve of a massive vaccination program against the H1N1, or swine flu, virus and leaked to a British newspaper, warn doctors to watch
          for an increase in cases of a fatal brain disorder which could be triggered by the vaccine.

          Guillain-Barre Syndrome attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal, London’s Mail on Sunday reported.

          The first round of immunizations is scheduled for October and is set to treat 13 million pople, giving priority to “everyone aged six months to 65 with an underlying health problem, pregnant women and health professionals.”

          Already, concerns have been raised over insufficient testing and lack of knowledge about the new vaccine’s effect on children.”

          PERHAPS THEY WILL STOP THIS INSANITY, although I think the people behind this are driven and completely insane.

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          1. Freemenright!

            Thanks for the information!! Will pass it on to some of my contacts.

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  10. christine

    Obama has been on c-span with the presidents of Mexico and Canada. He fudged around the Mexican/America border question. He heavily talked about the flu season approaching and how each country is responsibly prepared. This frightens me like no other. In my lifetime, I’ve never seen a president pre-announce an illness with the information and warnings I have about it and the vaccination.

    Bird Flu Distributed by Dept of Homeland Security
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc&feature=related

    What do you think?

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  11. Herewe Goagain

    In an effort to protect the the saintly image of Barack Obama as his popularity plummets to new lows, the White House has ensured there will be no opposing voices to the Obamacare agenda when the President makes a town hall appearance in New Hampshire tomorrow.

    The Secret Service will also be keeping a close eye on the throngs of protesters that are likely to gather outside.

    However, the many liberal commentators who rightly slammed President George W. Bush for his numerous scripted town hall meetings are noticeably silent in their criticism of Obama’s similarly staged event.

    “The White House controlled the distribution of the free tickets to get into the gym at Portsmouth High School. And the Secret Service will take care of any unruliness,” reports the Boston Globe today.

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  12. longshotlouie
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    1. VR

      The jobs were also listed at Jobsearch.money.cnn.com, employmentguide.com, and freedomsphoenix.com.

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  14. Matthew

    http://www.schiffathon.com/

    MAKE SURE YOU DONATE! WE ARE GOING TO REACH 1 MILLION TODAY! AT 544K SO FAR!!

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  15. longshotlouie

    August 24th – Mark Your Calender

    We Will Be Making A Wake Up Call
    To Barney Frank And Nancy Pelosi

    http://www.operationkickstart.com/

    Spread The News

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  16. longshotlouie

    Schiffathon
    http://www.schiffathon.com/

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  17. longshotlouie

    Peter Schiff going Kung-Fu on a hitjob

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3tCeBaNik&feature=player_embedded

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    1. Christine

      Good God, who is that news guy? Totally irritating and what an idiot. No class. For some, that kind of disrespectful action will cause them to check out Peter Schiff on their own to find out what he thinks…without the media.

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  18. Tom LaMar

    If it were just a matter of money needed to fund the most necessary medical situations, including infra-structure, practitioners, treatment regimens, pharmaceuticals, etal., it could work by just using the excess profits the insurance companies now make (up 10-fold from 10 years ago), or with realistic caps and pay-outs to lawyers in malpractice cases, or by making more drugs generic and charging more of a “world” price instead of letting Americans foot that bill as well. Of course offending practitioners should be dealt with creatively to help the system, like how about some “charity work”, as well as remedial education and monitoring ?

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    1. longshotlouie

      Wow, are you our new Big Brother.

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