Ron Paul on Freedom Watch: “All great revolutions have involved the young people”

This Wednesday afternoon, Ron Paul joined RJ Harris, Chris Calabrese, Michael Cannon, Scott Roper, Scott Shields and Judge Andrew Napolitano to discuss the latest political and economic developments.

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Audio only:Download the show as an MP3 file here (59:28 min).

Channel: Fox News Strategy Room
Show: Freedom Watch
Host: Judge Andrew Napolitano
Date: 8/19/2009

Transcript of Ron Paul’s appearance (Part 1 (starts at 2:12) | Part 2)

Judge Andrew Napolitano: It’s now my great pleasure to introduce one of America’s great defenders of freedom and liberty in Congress or anywhere, Congressman Ron Paul joins us on the phone from his Congressional district in the Lone Star State. Congressman Paul, welcome back to Freedom Watch.

Ron Paul: Thank you, Judge. It’s good to be with you.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Thank you. You and I were privileged to spend some time together this weekend. We spoke at different times to several thousands of people in Galveston. That little rant that I just gave about the difference between private enterprise and the government, I just penned on the plane on the way back because I was just so excited and enthusiastic about the people in your home district who get it, who understand that we are entitled to a government that stays within the Constitution, that believes in sound money, and that defends the free market.

They’re getting that in you as their congressman, but we’re not getting that from Washington.

Ron Paul: Boy, that’s for sure. And you know, when I first started many years ago, I was a bit cynical, believing that they would be no room for me in politics and that nobody like myself would ever be elected and yet the people responded favorably and I think what they respond to is an honest answer and work from there and decide what we have to do.

But in Washington, you don’t run into many people like this and that’s where it can be discouraging, if you concentrate on Washington. But you’ve spoken to many crowds in the last six months or a year and your crowds are getting bigger and these are the people who do get it and they want changes. So there’s room to be a bit optimistic, especially since the people most interested are the young people and they’re the ones who are going to have to deal with this in a short order.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: I am always impressed at the youthful age of the crowds that come together, whether it’s Campaign for Liberty, whether it’s a gathering that you put together, or whether it’s the type of folks to whom you and I speak. That’s good for the future when it is young people that understand that government is taking their freedom away from us.

Ron Paul: Yeah, and I think if you look at history, you’ll see that all great revolutions have involved the young people. They might not be the key philosophers of the revolution, but it’s the young people who get out.

Well, just think of how many times in the last 20 or 30 years when some governments got so overly oppressive that when the people who are out on the streets are usually on college campuses. It’s usually young people who recognize or are willing. It must be a recognition and a willingness to challenge the status quo.

I think when you become a 40 or 50 year old business man and you’ve learned to live with the government and you have your lobbyist, they’re not going to save us. Big business and big banks will never save us. It’s always the little people. It’s the individuals and small business owners and the people who just would like to be left alone and believe in self-reliance. They’re the ones who will lead the revolution back to a more libertarian society.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: I want to get to healthcare in a minute, but you used one of my favorite phrases and it did get, at least from me, the most enthusiastic response from the crowds to whom you and I spoke on this past weekend in Texas, when I said next to the right to live, the right to life, the greatest right is the right to be left alone… how true and patently violated.

But just to switch gears, I know you’re off this week. You’re not in DC. You’re working in your district office and communicating with your constituents there in Texas, but do you understand whether or not the so-called public option, Medicare for everybody, Medicare for people below 65, is still in the bill or still out of the bill, still to be considered, or off the table?

Ron Paul: Well, my understanding would be nobody knows that. I think the Democratic leadership is reassessing the issue constantly and I think Obama seems to be all over the place. I know what their desires are. They would like to have a single party payer and make everybody put into the public option.

You know, when they talk about Medicare and you still have options, you really don’t. When you’re 65, you can’t have a medical savings account. They have always manipulated, along with collusion with Blue Cross and Blue Shield and the insurance companies, to push everybody into Medicare, even though there’s probably nothing is written in the bill that says “everybody will be forced into Medicare.” There’s nothing that says that, but in essence, the results are that you’re being forced into it.

So when they deny that we won’t have a chance to make our choices, the problem is they make the choices so difficult. You know, when you have a subsidized government program, you have to pay a little bit more for real insurance, then the people are going to go with the government.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: We’re chatting with Congressman Ron Paul from Texas. Congressman Paul I was just downstairs on the set of the Fox Business Network while my colleague Stuart Varney was interviewing Mrs. Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, and she attempted to make the argument to him, which I think is impossible to make, that it would be easy for private insurance to compete with the government if the government is the single payer.

I would argue and I suspect you’ll agree that when the government owns the stadium, writes the rules, can tilt the playing field, is the umpire, and can move the goal post, it’s impossible to fairly compete against the government.

Ron Paul: Yeah, for economic reasons, you can’t do it, but sometimes the rules are written where you’re not allowed. Obama used the other day the example that, “Oh, yes, private enterprise competes with the post office all the time,” but not for the delivery of first-class mail, you know, maybe for packages and all of that, and that is fine.

But the rules are set to benefit the government. It will never be set to benefit the people because they live on power and they live on the idea that people are stupid. I had a member of Congress tell me on the House floor not too long ago, when I was asking him why he was voting for some consumer protection bill that we had, and he says, “Well, you know, the people are just stupid.” He gave them no credibility that they have any common sense to protect themselves when it comes to making purchases.

So when you work on that assumption, then you have people saying, you know, they’re doing… they’re always humanitarians who are going to take care of us. But, of course, sometimes they’re the most evil people, even though well intended, they can do the most harm when they try to take care of us.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: I won’t ask you to be betray a confidence and tell us who that congressman is, but if members of Congress have the attitude that the people are stupid and if they go home to these town hall meetings and they’re just going through the motions… I mean, last night your congressman, Barney Frank, said to one of his constituents, “I’d rather be arguing with a dining room table than with you.”

If members of Congress have that attitude about the people, we don’t have a representative democracy. We have an oligarchy in which these guys, by hook or by crook, get in there and do whatever the heck they want to do no matter what the people want and no matter what their oath is to uphold the Constitution and no matter what the Constitution says they can and cannot do.

Ron Paul: Yeah, but the big problem is they do have an answer to this. The alternative is to throw these people out. But it never seems to happen. It seems like the incumbency guarantees a long-term job for them.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Yeah. Have you followed at all the stories about the White House and its website and its threats on the website, and its request on the website, “Give us the names of people that disagree with the President.”

And then when people started getting emails from the website, they’re saying, “I never gave you my email address. Where did that come from?” To me, Congressman Paul, that’s a reminiscent of Richard Nixon’s enemy lists. It’s a form of intimidation and it would seem to me that the Privacy Act, which expressly prohibits the president or anyone in his name from doing that, makes that illegal.

Ron Paul: But you know what, though, “you got to protect national security, some of these people may be subversive” and they might turn these information over to the FBI to check these individuals out. So no, just another list, this is one reason why one of the things that I emphasize when we talk about the medical program as bad as manipulated medical care and socialized medicine is, I mean, this whole idea that they have this database already set up and there’s $50 billion being put into it if this bill passes, it’s just another list. They have more lists that they compile in Washington and this is just another list that Obama wants people who might have said something negative, and you know, that’s been around a long time. That’s historic. That’s been around for centuries.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Right.

Ron Paul: But in our government, you know, it was even true in the Lincoln administration and by the way, I saw you on TV this morning on C-SPAN. You did great as always.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Thank you. Thank you. Very generous of them to give me a half an hour about my book and the emails reflect their generosity. What are you doing this week? Do you ever kick up your heels and relax a little bit?

Ron Paul: Oh, yeah. I try to do that. I spend time in my congressional office, which is just a mile or so from my house, although next week I’ll spend time in the Victoria office and I’ll also have time there too that I spend in the Galveston office.

But when I get a break, which I manage to do because I get up early and I take my break on a bicycle ride and I like to swim and I like to do boating, so I like the water when I get the chance.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: I heard a story about you and Barry Goldwater Jr. having a swimming race in that river near your house, is that true?

Ron Paul: Well, it wasn’t actually the [river]. Back then, we had a very big 50-meter swimming pool and I had been a swimmer in college, nothing real special. Now, I gave Barry a hint, we’ll have a little swimming match, but I always get after him because he beat me and he wasn’t supposed to beat me, he was my guest, you know.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: (Laughs). Wait a minute, if you were the host and he was the guest, you’re supposed to let him win.

Ron Paul: Oh, that’s it. Well, that’s it. That’s what I did. Now I remember. I’m glad you clarified that.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Congressman Paul, it’s always a pleasure. Thanks very much for joining us on Freedom Watch.

Ron Paul: All right. Thank you, Judge.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Thank you so much.


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  • yep, all great revolutions have involved the young people.

    it would be nice to see this web site post current events with regard to the whole picture and not just tunnelvision of a few things happening, daily to our country.

    The “change” is profound to say the least. We have an enemy of the people in the white house who is holding true to his promises, at least the promises that further his marxist agenda

    5 days before the election Obama stated:

    “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”

    And now you see that his cabinet and marxist supporters, are changing things in America alright. And who’s stopping them?

    Where are your voices?

    Why aren’t any politicians address this crap?!

    We have beat this health care issue to death. I don’t say we should stop voicing our oppositions…but there are “fundamental changes” happening right before our eyes and who’s paying attention?

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    The American Heritage® Dictionary from the year 2000 defines the words fundamentally and transforming as follows:
    ADJECTIVE: 1a. Of or relating to the foundation or base; elementary: the fundamental laws of the universe. b. Forming or serving as an essential component of a system or structure; central: an example that was fundamental to the argument. c. Of great significance or entailing major change: a book that underwent fundamental revision.
    NOUN: 1. Something that is an essential or necessary part of a system or object.
    OTHER FORMS: funda·mental·ly —ADVERB
    VERB: Inflected forms: trans·formed, trans·form·ing, trans·forms
    TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To change markedly the appearance or form of: “A thick, fibrous fog had transformed the trees into ghosts and the streetlights into soft, haloed moons”(David Michael Kaplan). 2. To change the nature, function, or condition of; convert. See synonyms at convert.

    So as we can see from the definitions, fundamentally transforming something (in this case the United States of America) means to markedly change the nature, function, or condition of the foundation or base, forming or serving as an essential component of a system.

    So what is it, exactly, that Senator Obama needs to markedly change? What is the foundation or base of the United States of America, the essential component of our system (our government)? I would argue it is the Constitution of the United States of America. But does the U.S. Constitution need to be markedly changed? I would argue, of course it does not. Senator Obama couldn’t have possibly meant to fundamentally transform the Constitution of the United States of America, could he?

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    The Compleat List of Czars by Nancy Matthis at American Daughter

    Bypassing the authority of Congress, Barack Obama rules through czars — the beginnings of dictatorship: 1.Herbert Allison Jr., bailout czar, [replaced Bush bailout czar Neel Kashkari, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability confirmed by Senate]

    2.Alan Bersin, border czar

    3.Dennis Blair, intelligence czar [Director of National Intelligence, a Senate confirmed position]

    4.John Brennan, counterterrorism czar

    5.Carol Browner, energy czar

    6.Adolfo Carrion, urban affairs czar

    7.Ashton Carter, weapons czar [actually Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics and so subject to Senate confirmation]

    8.Aneesh Chopra, technology czar

    9.Jeffrey Crowley, [openly gay white man] AIDS czar

    10.Cameron Davis, Great Lakes czar

    11.Nancy-Ann DeParle, health czar

    12.Earl Devaney, stimulus oversight czar

    13.Joshua DuBois, religion czar, aka God czar

    14.Arne Duncan, education czar

    15.Kenneth Feinberg, pay czar

    16.Daniel Fried, Guantanamo closure czar

    17.J. Scott Gration, Sudan czar

    18.Melissa Hathaway, [soon to be] cybersecurity czar

    19.David J. Hayes, water czar [a Deputy Interior Secretary and therefore subject to Senate oversight]

    20.Richard Holbrooke, Afghanistan-Pakistan (Af-Pak) czar

    21.John Holdren, science czar

    22.Kevin Jennings, safe schools czar [nominated to be Assistant Deputy Secretary of Education, Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools, a newly created post; openly gay founder of an organization dedicated to promoting pro-homosexual clubs and curricula in public schools]

    23.Van Jones, green jobs czar

    24.Gil Kerlikowske, drug czar

    25.Ron Kirk, trade czar

    26.Vivek Kundra, infotech czar [Shoplifted four shirts, worth $33.50 each, from J.C. Penney in 1996 (source)]

    27.Douglas Lute, war czar [retained from Bush administration, married to Jane Holl Lute, currently a Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security]

    28.George Mitchell, Mideast peace czar

    29.Ed Montgomery, car czar [replacing Steve Rattner, who stepped down amid controversy over his former firm’s role in a possible kickback scandal]

    30.Lynn Rosenthal, domestic violence czar

    31.Dennis Ross, Mideast policy czar

    32.Gary Samore, weapons of mass destruction czar

    33.Todd Stern, climate change czar

    34.Cass Sunstein, regulatory czar

    35.Larry Summers, economic czar

    36.Michael Taylor, food czar

    37.Arturo Valenzuela, Latin-American czar (nominee) [although this post is referred to as a czar, he is nominatied to be Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs and so is subject to Senate confirmation]

    38.Paul Volcker, economic czar number two

    39.Elizabeth Warren, TARP czar [chair of the [Congressional Oversight Panel for the Trouble Assets Relief Program; note that Herb Allison is more frequently called the TARP czar]

    40.Jeffrey Zients, government performance czar [replaced original nominee Nancy Killefer who withdrew her name after issues with her personal income tax filings surfaced]

    Positions established but not yet filled…

    41.behavioral science czar

    42.copyright czar

    Positions being planned: 1.income redistribution czar czar

    3.consumer financial protection czar, aka mortgage czar (source) fairness czar

    5.student loan czar, to oversee a program of mandatory service in return for college money (source)

    6.voter list czar

    7.zoning czar

    Obama has moved swiftly to concentrate power in the White House, bypassing the review of our elected representatives in Congress in most of the posts listed above. Even though cabinet positions are part of the executive branch, the cabinet secretaries must be approved by Congress, they are funded by Congress, and they can be called before Congress to testify. Most of these czars, on the other hand, are appointed by Obama at his sole discretion, and are answerable only to him. If subpoenaed by Congress, they can claim executive privilege.

    Right after the election last November, Lowell Ponte of NewsMax published a tongue-in-cheek article that purported to be written eight years in the future, looking back on the Obama administration. Given the administration’s current initiatives, the ominous prognostication seems frighteningly likely:

    Looking back from 2016 on eight strange years of President Barack Obama’s administration, we see that it has been nothing like what idealists believed they were electing in 2008.

    The Obama years will be remembered in the Ministry of Truth’s official history as the era of 1,000 czars, the elitist commissars he gave the power to rule by fiat in every sector of America’s government, economy, and society…. And through their partisan power, Barack Obama became America’s permanent caesar.

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