Show: Situation Room
Channel: CNN
Date: 10/14/2009
Transcript:
Wolf Blitzer: … for joining us and the entire panel. I’m going to play the little clip of Lindsey Graham. He was in South Carolina, Congressman Paul. He was heckled by some of your supporters and this was the exchange. It’s hard to hear, but we got the words up on the screen as well.
Lindsey Graham: I am not going to leave the Republican Party. I’m going to grow it.
Male Speaker: Yeah, right.
Lindsey Graham: We’re not going to be the party of the angry white guys.
Male Speakers: Ron Paul will grow it. Ron Paul. Ron Paul will grow it. Ron Paul.
Lindsey Graham: We’re not going to be the Ron Paul party.
Wolf Blitzer: You got the gist of that, Congressman. He said he doesn’t want to be the party of the… “We’re not going to be the Ron Paul party,” was what he said at the very end. I wonder if you want to react to your colleague, Lindsey Graham.
Ron Paul: Well, my first reaction would be, what does he have against the Constitution? The supporters I have support me because I’m a traditional conservative and I defend the Constitution. I place every vote I cast depending on the Constitution.
Somebody should ask him what does he have against that and why does he vote for TARP funds and the bailout funds and cap and trade taxes and all the big government things. Why does he support Obama in expanding the war? Why does he support the PATRIOT Act? These are the things that Constitutional conservatives don’t support and we want to hold the Republicans to what the things they think they believe and they say they believe in. They claim they believe in limited government and that’s what we’re all about.
Wolf Blitzer: Congressman, I want everyone in the panel to weigh it in as well and ask you a question, but you don’t want your supporters out there to be heckling a senator like Lindsey Graham in the midst of his presentation, do you?
Ron Paul: No, I think it goes against the grain, but for him to turn that in and say that everybody who’s upset with the government and upset with his type of voting record are angry white people or white men, that is preposterous. That is a real insult. But let me tell you, if anybody comes to our rallies, and I can continue to hold them. We get thousands of people out. There are a lot of angry people there, but I tell you what, it’s very diverse. Anybody who wants to challenge me on that should come to our rallies, but to try to paint our group into that corner is just wrong. But you’re right, I think decorum is very important. I try to protect against that and urge not to participate in.
Corey Booker: Congressman, it’s Corey Booker here. Do you think you represent the Republican Party more than Lindsey Graham?
Ron Paul: Well, if you do a statistical vote today, probably not, but that isn’t necessarily the right question. The right question is, what should the Republican Party believe in? Should the Republican Party follow through on their promises in their platform of limited government and personal liberties, a strong national defense without perpetual war and without an unconstitutional Patriot Act.
Just because you get a majority vote doesn’t mean that you should give up on your rights and your Constitution, so I have no idea how it would come out. But I’ll tell you what, I’ll bet you the vote will come out a lot closer right now if you compare the supporters of Lindsey Graham to Ron Paul than it was two or three years ago because the Republican Party, they are angry and upset and they want changes and there is quite a few.
And one thing that nobody seems to pay attention to is that why should they run us off? We’re the ones who reached the college kids, the young people. How many Republicans really reach the teenagers and the college kids. Those are the people that are gathering at our rallies and you have to ask what are they going with the party with pandering to the old country club Republicans and acting like Democrats and bailout funds and TARP funds and these kinds of things just won’t hold up for the Republican Party. That’s why the Republican Party has been losing.
Candy Crowley: Congressman Paul.
Ron Paul: And we’re suggesting that they live up to what they profess to believe in.
Candy Crowley: Congressman Paul, it’s Candy Crowley. I think the larger issue here is, if you take the personalities out of it, that politics as you know is a lot about image and here we’re in a time when the economy is terrible and people are in real need. We are in two wars with American lives at stake and that requires the federal government to take some action and spend some money. Does it not look and has the Republican Party now, yourself and others, not become vulnerable to the imagery, the imagery at least, of the party of No, no money for this, not money for that, no money for that and how do you change that image?
Ron Paul: Well, we’d have to change your questioning. This idea that we are a party of no where we represent no… We represent free market and sound money. Take, for instance, our bill that we have pushed and I have introduced to audit the Fed to get to the bottom of this. This idea that you prefaced your question by saying the government, the Congress, has to do something, well, it’s because the government has been spending too much, borrowing too much, printing too much, interfering too much, regulating too much, so maybe the government ought to be doing a lot less. But I have every single Republican in the House of Representatives supporting my bill and there are 30 senators that are also supporting this bill and 125 Democrats in the House who support this bill. I would say that is doing something, getting to the heart of the matter. Trillions of dollars by the Fed being spent and there’s no audit there.
Arianna Huffington: Congressman.
Wolf Blitzer: Arianna. Hold your thoughts for a second. Arianna is going to come into this conversation in a moment. Congressman Paul, don’t go away. Kevin Madden is here as well. We’ll continue our conversation. We’re just getting started with Congressman Ron Paul and the best political team on television. We’ll be right back.
Arianna Huffington from huffingtonpost.com. Arianna, I want you to get into this conversation with Congressman Paul. This is your chance to ask him a question. You’ve heard his point and he makes some really passionate arguments.
Arriana Huffington: Yes, Congressman Paul, you mentioned the bill that you have co-sponsored with Congressman Alan Grayson, a liberal Democrat. Also, in Afghanistan, you are basically in agreement with another liberal Democrat, Senator Russ Feingold. So do you think that it is becoming obsolete to keep looking at American politics through this filter of right versus left when on so many critical issues there are many strange bedfellows these days?
Ron Paul: Oh, I think you’re absolutely right. I try to avoid it all the time. I sometimes resent it when they call me a right-winger or somebody else goes and calls somebody else a left-winger. I look at intervention or non-intervention as a general principle whether it’s overseas, in our personal lives, or in the economy. But the thing that should bring us together is our Constitution and the Constitution does. If you believe in the Constitution and follow it, lo and behold, you believe in civil liberties, you don’t want to run people’s lives, you don’t have the authority to police the world and run the world and you don’t have the authority to run the economy. So this to me is the rallying point and if we have disagreements, then we change the Constitution.
I work in the Congress just like I demonstrated with my bill to audit the Fed. Progressives and liberals and socialists and libertarians and conservatives all say, “Yes, we should have oversight. We should find out what they’re doing” and we can bring together… Freedom brings people together as long as we’re not judgmental and tell people how to run their lives or what their religious values ought to be and we certainly don’t need to be doing this around the world and right now, I really am disturbed by the support that the Republicans give to Obama’s war in Afghanistan. He wants to expand it and people like Lindsey Graham are urging him on to do more and more and we have no right to be there. We need to bring our troops home.
Wolf Blitzer: Congressman.
Ron Paul: We don’t need that kind of operation.
Wolf Blitzer: Congressman. Kevin Madden is a Republican strategist. He is here and he’d like to weigh in as well. Go ahead, Kevin.
Kevin Madden: Well, Congressman, as a party, we always flourish when we talk about what we are for and we talk about a more modernized agenda that we have for the American public. Don’t you think that we need to do more to talk about what unifies as a party and not talk about our limitations and what we disagree on in the party?
Ron Paul: Well, do you think you should maybe pass that message on over to Lindsey and say something about it because he hasn’t exactly welcomed us in. In some places, they do. They invite us in and I think you’re absolutely right and that’s why I’m such a strong defender of individual liberty and the Constitution because it isn’t a negative thing. It’s very, very positive and you find your answers, whether it’s monetary policy or foreign policy or domestic policy, and I just think that, that is an absolute good piece of advice that we should do. We should try to bring people together and discuss the issue and show what we’re for, and I am strongly for the principles I think the Republican Party have claimed they’re for, for freedom and individualism and free markets and sound money, no special interest and as Eisenhower said, “No military-industrial complex.” So I think these are the things that I’m for, strongly for, but the real principle that we have to be for is individual liberty.
Wolf Blitzer: Congressman, I know you got to go. You got other activities up on Capitol Hill. We’re going to let you go, but everyone else is staying because we have a lot more to discuss, especially, Congressman, you’ll be interested in this, the latest post on huffingtonpost.com by Arianna. What she wrote about the Vice-President today is fascinating material. It’s going to be a source of good discussion. Here, what has she written about? She has written about the Vice-President and she is suggesting perhaps this might be a good moment for him to think about resigning. Why? Why would the Vice-President, Joe Biden, want to resign? The best political team on television and Arianna Huffington, they’re here to dissect this high drama idea and Republican Party chairman, Michael Steele, is no stranger to criticism. This time he is apparently doing something about it. An update on what Sommer is calling, “A red, hot mess online.”
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Around here it’s not just the building materials that aren’t from the US. None of the workforce is either. Not a single Ron Paul supporter has addressed any of the “free trade” topics I’ve brought up, but most, with the notable exception of one person, have demonstrated time and again the kind of crass, mindless “ends justifies the means” behavior that Ron Paul was grilled on by the CNN reporter. But then, why should we expect more from Ron’s supporters than we do from Ron himself? He says the only Constitutional money is that based on gold and silver, then he says, “well, we could use other commodities too”. It’s not even a matter of which one is a lie. They all are.
He knows we’re into China for trillions of dollars and he wants to make sure they get plenty of value in return. He’d like to give them the entire gold reserves of the US if he could. Real Americans stand up for America first, not their party or their politician, and certainly not for the interests of Communist Red China. Traitors!
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chinese drywall isnt the only thing (new) americans homes are full of. they should be stamped “concrete and lumber ONLY MATERIALS FROM USA”. houses should be only worth 30% of what their marketed for. sherrif sales are a good start for honest pricing. from…. ashamed to have been in the building trade.
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Defective and toxic drywall manufactured in and imported from China has forced thousands of Americans to leave their new homes. It has caused skin irritations and trouble breathing.
As more time passes, more homes are being tested and eventually gutted of this serious health concern. No home is safer than another. If you live in new home, it is possible it was constructed using this inferior and dangerous product.
New homes in Louisiana and Nevada to multi-million-dollar condos in Florida, where the problem started, are included. If you’ve been affected, or know someone who has or may be, please read this Web site for a complete dossier on the subject: http://chinesedrywall.org/
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I can’t wait until mid-term elections. Vote these idiots out and get more independent thinkers like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders!
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I woud just like to say it’s great to see people so dedicated to Ron Paul. I had a certain response for somebody but I have seen others have already responded. If someone disagrees with you once or twice genuine discussion occurs. If someone disagrees with you again and again it’s more likely a person’s behavior. And if we get sucked in it just brings the intellect of the debate down. I normally like how we respond to each other here. Let’s just take a bit out of Dr. Paul’s book. Good etiquette. I’m sure he’d just move on.
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CNN should grill Obama or any one who is President as much as they grill Ron Paul. CNN should grill the Fed in the way they grill Ron Paul.
And Ron Paul can answer all the questions intelligently.
Obama and Bernacke fudge
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DFENS gets paid to smear Ron Paul
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So I take it you “geniuses” support Ron Paul’s stand on “free trade”? The good news is, your position is self sterilizing. Darwin awards all around. You’ve earned them.
Last week, the United States Food and Drug Administration warned drug makers and suppliers in the United States “to be especially vigilant” in watching for diethylene glycol. The warning did not specifically mention China, and it said there was “no reason to believe” that glycerin in this country was tainted. Even so, the agency asked that all glycerin shipments be tested for diethylene glycol, and said it was “exploring how supplies of glycerin become contaminated.”
China is already being accused by United States authorities of exporting wheat gluten containing an industrial chemical, melamine, that ended up in pet food and livestock feed. The F.D.A. recently banned imports of Chinese-made wheat gluten after it was linked to pet deaths in the United States.
Beyond Panama and China, toxic syrup has caused mass poisonings in Haiti, Bangladesh, Argentina, Nigeria and twice in India.
In Bangladesh, investigators found poison in seven brands of fever medication in 1992, but only after countless children died. A Massachusetts laboratory detected the contamination after Dr. Michael L. Bennish, a pediatrician who works in developing countries, smuggled samples of the tainted syrup out of the country in a suitcase. Dr. Bennish, who investigated the Bangladesh epidemic and helped write a 1995 article about it for BMJ, formerly known as the British Medical Journal, said that given the amount of medication distributed, deaths “must be in the thousands or tens of thousands.”
“It’s vastly underreported,” Dr. Bennish said of diethylene glycol poisoning. Doctors might not suspect toxic medicine, particularly in poor countries with limited resources and a generally unhealthy population, he said, adding, “Most people who die don’t come to a medical facility.” – New York Times
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Dfens, I asked you a question on another post and you ignored me. I still want an answer:
Who are some good Congressmen or candidates that you think are doing a good job or have good ideas? What kinds of sensible solutions are they proposing?
However, you never seem to address anyone’s comments here directly. Based on your apparent ignorance and belligerence, I’m starting to think you come to this website without any intention of having a civil or logical discussion and that your only goal is to senselessly incite anger. Your behavior removes any credibility you might have otherwise had. Your time would be better spent elsewhere.
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Dfens, I missed one of your many earlier posts, but I just read where you said Ron Paul is in favor of a NAFTA Superhighway…Do you know a damn thing about Ron Paul?! Jesus man, the guy did so much talking about NAFTA, NAU, CFR, against it all! And he got criticized for bringing it up. Give me a break man, you have no credibility here. Nobody is taking anything you say seriously, quit commenting on this site.
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I just saw this interview, did some more research and am getting really angry… By chance I stumbled upon the cash for clunkers program. The government gives taxpayers money to some residents to give their old car to a dealer who is then FORCED to break the engine by totally destroying it (drain the oil and then “kill” the engine by running it without oil). How sick is that!? What is going on in this country?
Fixing an old car or using it for spareparts will always come environment friendlier than destroying it and building a completely new one – that may produce a little less air pollution.
If Ron Paul would have become president I am sure that such sick creations of politics would not go far. Wake up and stand up people, it’s time to start doing things right!
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Here’s an article about how China poisons you when you’re taking vitamins to stay healthy. Of course, why should they care what you think about this practice? They’ve already cornered the market in vitamins after destroying all American companies along with thousands of American jobs by dumping their crappy products on our market. Ron Paul loves this:
Most U.S. consumers are aware that Chinese products dominate the shelves of most retail stores, but few realize the dominance extends to vitamins and drugs. Fully 90 percent of all the vitamin C sold in America comes from the communist trade giant. This near-monopoly control of the vitamin-C market caused the Wall Street Journal to dub China the “OPEC of vitamin C,” and like the oil cartel it has been accused of price fixing. In 2001, China’s four largest producers met to form a consortium, and shortly thereafter began a series of price manipulations undercutting U.S. and European competitors. Volatile prices induced American companies, which were operating in a very different regulatory environment than that existing in Communist China, to file anti-trust suits. In the end the suits hardly mattered; the last U.S. vitamin-C plant closed in 2006.
China has since captured much of the world’s pharmaceutical market, producing 70 percent of the world’s penicillin, 50 percent of its aspirin, and most of its vitamins. There are already signs that Chinese-produced vitamins suffer from the same type of quality assurance problems affecting Chinese food and goods exports. Recently, the European Union discovered Enterobacter sakazakii, a lethal bacterium that causes meningitis in infants, in imported batches of vitamin A. In America, traces of arsenic, lead, and iron have shown up in discount products containing vitamin C. – Rense.com
Why should we worry that we can no longer produce penicillin in this country? It’s not like someone could attak us with a genetically engineered bacteria. Ok, well, maybe China could do that, but they love us so much they’d never do that and withhold penicillin from us, right? I mean, they are such a warm and loving regime. Who would think they’d do such a thing?
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This is Ron Paul’s America:
Since August 20, the health bureau has tested 2,743 children under the age of 14, who lived near three smelters, Wei Zongchang, director of the Jiyuan health bureau told Xinhua. More than one-third of the children tested had high levels of lead in their blood.
Children with high levels of lead in their bodies can suffer from damage to the brain and nervous system; behavior and learning problems, such as hyperactivity; slow growth; hearing problems and headaches.
While lead exposure is also harmful to adults, lead is more dangerous to children because children’s growing bodies absorb more lead and children’s brains and nervous systems are more sensitive to the damaging effects of lead than those of adults
. – Environmental News Service
And…
“We don’t want blood-tainted GDP,” says Fu Sufen, a mother and taxi driver in the provincial capital, Taiyuan.
One statistic that China failed to mention in this week’s 60th anniversary celebrations is that more than 250,000 workers have died in coalmines since 1949.
Shanxi has produced far more coal, and coalmining deaths, than anywhere else.
The worst of the disasters, when 682 people died in an accident in 1960, was classified as a state secret and was not disclosed until 1998. The regular gas explosions, mine-shaft floods, cave-ins and generally Dickensian work conditions have undermined Shanxi’s standing on the national stage, along with China’s claims to being a civilised nation.
Over the past decade Beijing has repeatedly launched mine-safety campaigns but they have mostly subsided beneath layers of corruption and collusion. – Sydney Morning Herald
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Lindsay Graham does not speak for me. I am a Ron Paul Supporter!
I am going to have his name painted on the back of my truck.
We all need to get the word out some how that Ron Paul is who we support. Not Shumucks like Lindsay Graham.
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Lindsay Graham is trying to push cap and trade.. Is he gay!? seriously..
hahaha! watch Lindsay Graham Dodge ball questions about his sexual stance! I knew it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4_rmUY-Rs
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Ron Paul speaks for me. We want him to be the poster child for the GOP but they won’t give us what we want.
We are tired of Country Club Republicans who sell us out.
Ron Paul is my President and is the Champion of the Constitution.
He is the only politician that I donate to.
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Ditto,Emily
Congress created the problem.
In 1913, Congress turned over it’s Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a group of mostly foreign banking families.
These few powerful families have no allegiance to any country, only to there own greed.
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Meanwhile, the AP interviewed several homeowners who, like the Ivorys, were unlucky enough to purchase properties built with Chinese drywall, and are now being hit with a second and third wave of bad news: Their insurers are declining to fill their claims, then canceling the policy or issuing notices that policies won’t be renewed until the problem is fixed. The homeowners have little recourse since neither the Chinese manufacturers nor the Chinese government are likely to respond to any lawsuits or reimburse them for the defective drywall.
Yep, this is the sound of freedom, right here folks. This is the freedom Ron Paul offers you. The freedom to be the slaves of Communist Red China. Step right up and be first in line. You people are too stupid to be real. But then, Ron Paul is just parroting the Republican Party line on this one.
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Do you seriously think anyone here will fall for this nonsense? You’re just wasting your time.
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Either you are woefully misinformed and misled or a liar. I think the latter applies. Try applying your craft of deception to people who watch television on a regular basis. They’re easier to fool. Now please stop assaulting our senses and taking up valuable comment space with your crap. Get out of town!
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Kevin Madden’s question demonstrates how poorly Neo-Cons listen to the outcry of their own party. Congressman Paul just gets through outlining some topics that unify all Americans from left to right, and Madden basically asks, “Shouldn’t you talk more about what unifies us as a party?” Uh, yeah, he just did, Kevin. Were you listening, or rehearsing your question? The congressman’s response was, of course, much more polite.
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Yeah, isn’t freedom great? If we weren’t so damn free, how could China get away with this crap?
During the height of the U.S. housing boom, with building materials in short supply, American construction companies imported millions of pounds of Chinese-made drywall because it was abundant and cheap. An Associated Press analysis of shipping records found that more than 500 million pounds of Chinese gypsum board was imported between 2004 and 2008 — enough to have built tens of thousands of homes. They are heavily concentrated in the Southeast, especially Florida.
The defective materials have since been found by state and federal agencies to emit “volatile sulfur compounds,” and contain traces of strontium sulfide, which can produce a rotten-egg odor, along with organic compounds not found in American-made drywall. Homeowners complain the fumes are corroding copper pipes, destroying TVs and air conditioners, and blackening jewelry and silverware. Some believe the wallboard is also making them ill. – Associated Press
We should all be as free as the Chinese. Free to kill kids by painting their toys with lead and putting antifreeze in their toothpaste and cough syrup. Now they’re free to destroy our homes with their crappy building materials.
What does Ron Paul think about this? He thinks we need to throw open our borders to the cheap crap that China sells. He thinks we need to export all our jobs to China. He’s all for us going to the gold standard so we can borrow paper from China and repay them with our entire supply of gold. Isn’t Ron Paul a saint? I know if I were a Chinese Communist I’d think so.
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What the hell?
No one is free to kill or poison. Such actions are to be held in check by the equal rights of others. If those rights are violated, the trangressor is subject to some form of punishment.
Do you not even consider that if we had our economic freedom the Federal gov/Federal reserve wouldn’t have been able to create the conditions which led to the housing bubble? Which in turn wouldn’t have created an incentive for the some producers in China to manufacture this allegedly problematic drywall. Even if true, the free market is the best methond to destroy crappy companies. If some company is producing crap, the consumers will abandon those manufacturers and buy from other companies that better serve their needs.
Would you rather we have closed borders? Should we sacrifice our freedom to trade and let some bureaucrat in Washington control our commerce? If so, that’s a good way to impoverish the people and enrich the government.
Anyway, your post is so absurd (keeping true to form) that it can safely be dismissed out of hand. In fact, I feel dumb for even taking the time I did to respond. You have no interest in honest and open dialogue. You are merely here to spit hyperbolic rhetoric and strawman arguments.
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Dfens: Actually Ron Paul rates a “B”from numbers USA on immigration issues. He always votes to stop illegal immigration and the only reason he doesn’t rate an A is because he doesn’t vote to spend money that we don’t have on the problem all the time. Ron is the last one to “throw open the borders”.
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I don’t know what Numbers USA is looking at, but I’m looking at this post on this very website that says Ron “Walmart” Paul is for throwing open our borders. He is clearly in favor of a NAFTA super highway that would pour goods from our neighbors to the North and South into this country without any regard what so ever to the hardships that would create on Americans and without regard to the jobs and national security we would lose. He is in favor of allowing the Communist Chinese to dump poisonous toys, medicines, and building products on our nation while providing us with no legal recourse against them. Good old Walmart Paul is right in step with Lindsey Graham on this. In fact, Walmart Paul is a bigger advocate of China’s interests than ANY sitting Congressman that I know of. Why do you support him in throwing our borders open to dangerous products that kill American children, Lindsey?
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Would you please stop with the incessant lying? You’re not a Paul support, fine, but you’re wasting your time. You won’t disuade anyone with your ignorant lies on here?
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Dfens: I didn’t see Dr. Paul’s name on the roll call list of Yea’s to give China Most Favored Nation trade status back in 1996 when China was originally given this status. Can you help me on confirming how he voted? I am certainly not in favor of this and I applaud the Obama administration for his tariff on Chinese tires. Also, I guess you don’t buy Walmart stock but at least they employ Americans! Wouldn’t you say that is a plus?
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I’m trying to find out who Ron Paul really is. How can he be against a temporary tariff on cheap, poorly manufactured, and, in my opinion, dangerous Chinese tires that are being dumped in our country in a very transparent attempt at putting our last remaining tire plants out of business and be against China having favored nation status? How can he be for “free trade” and be against the NAFTA superhighway or the World Trade Organization? He wants free trade, but no roads that would facilitate free trade? He wants us to have legal protection against being killed by imported goods, but he’s against any trade organization that would do this very thing? Not even the mighty Ron Paul can be on all sides of these issues.
I’m not making this stuff up. These are Ron Paul’s words recorded only a few days ago on his own blog. I’m an American. I’m on America’s side. Which side is Ron Paul on? So far he’s been on all of them, but he appears to me to be on the side of the Communist Chinese right now.
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Dfens: I would say that Ron Paul is not one of the big leaders on the issue that you seem so concerned about. Marcy Kaptur of Ohio is probably the most outspoken member of the House when it comes to being against NAFTA and Communist China when it comes to trade. The issue is not a Democrat vs. Republican issue just as immigration isn’t. Every person has their own opinion. I would have to do more research but I would say that Dr. Paul has probably voted more along a populist line than you think.
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It is unfortunate that Ron Paul has no real answers to the issues raised by international trade because these are the real and pressing issues of our time. Our technology, the internet included, has made the world smaller. Trade is a far larger percentage of our economy today than it ever was in the past. Our trade deficit has grown to the trillions of dollars. It was 7% of GDP last year. A 5% deficit is considered by real economists to be destabiliziing to a nations currency. We are in uncharted waters, watching our investment values go from rail to rail, our dollar’s value plummet (as expected), and our jobs and industrial might evaporate. To address this, Ron Paul says, “we need free trade?” Yeah, right, it’s been so good to us up to now, why change a good thing?
We can have “free trade” and live like the Chinese do, drowning in our own sewage and choking on our own air, or we can live like Americans. We have the resouces, we have the technology, we have the brilliant minds to put them all together. If we keep following the path we’re on, though, we will not have any of them for much longer. We are on the verge of losing our nation for trinkets and beads.
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Dfens: Since you obviously don’t like Dr. Paul (at least when it comes to this issue) who would you like to see be elected our next president? (Hopefully you don’t want to keep the one we have now!)
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That was very impressive. You could almost see everyone in that room realizing that freedom really does bring us together.
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