457 responses to “Poll: Ron Paul 2012”

  1. DonJ

    The ten conservative principles for Republicans, as distributed by the RNC, are as follows:
    (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill.
    (2) We support market-based healthcare reform and oppose Obama-style government-run healthcare.
    (3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap-and-trade legislation.
    (4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check.
    (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants.
    (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges.
    (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat.
    (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act.
    (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing healthcare rationing and denial of healthcare and government funding of abortion.
    (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

    Audit the Fed now

    Ralph said,
    “Shalom;
    there is a move about to change the constitution to the north american union, and most of the states have alligned with it, we have to fight it, as it will change our govt. to a socialist one. God help us…”

    We now have a list of the money givers that have corrupted our existing government. We know who our enemies are so we can beat them.
    Remove all the incumbents that were paid to do us harm. I hope we (Hawaii) can get rid of our problems, Sen. Inouye, Sen. Akaka, Congresswoman Hirono.

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  2. ralph a. kern

    Shalom;
    there is a move about to change the constitution to the north american union, and most of the states have alligned with it, we have to fight it, as it will change our govt. to a socialist one. God help us…

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  3. C

    Ron Paul demonstrates the example of a true American Patriot! His allegiance is to the Constitution of the United States and to the American people of United States.

    All I have to say is: Ron Paul 2012!!

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  4. Don Jusko

    Yes Mark, can we do it over the internet? Give a program that records your signature that’s legal and sign a petition with it. Maybe backed up by one dollar donation from your credit card. That can start the campaign. I think a back up person with exactly the same political agenda should be named and a stand by for that person. Just to be safe.

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  5. Duane Crumbacher

    Doesn’t anyone think that we should start raising funds IMMEDIATELY for Ron Paul’s 2012 Presidential Campaign in spite of the fact that he hasn’t announced yet? Every day that goes by is a day lost and we can’t get it back.

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    1. Mark Woychik

      No I don’t think we should start raising funds right now. Here’s the plan of attack I think we should do. Start to organize enough votes to get him on the ballot in every state. That is the biggest attainable thing we could do right now. Organization is the key to why Obama is President. Of course Acorn didn’t hurt. Dr. Paul has much more integrity than that however. If we can get him on the ballot by getting the needed signitures in every state he will be on his way and they will not be able to sweep him under the rug; like they have the illegal national debt owed to the fed.

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  6. Don Jusko

    Look what is happening to our TeaParty, don’t let this infiltration happen.

    I strongly encourage the Tea Party faithful to read Jane Hamsher’s recent
    column on this subject:

    http://tinyurl.com/tea-party-soul

    I say again, be careful, Tea Party Nation. You are being infiltrated. You
    are being compromised. You are being neutered. Stick to your principles.
    Stick with the Constitution. Keep opposing unconstitutional, preemptive
    wars. Keep calling for the abolition of the Federal Reserve. Keep fighting
    for less taxes, reduced federal spending, and states’ rights. Keep opposing
    the Patriot Act and the New World Order. Don’t abandon Ron Paul. Be wary of
    people such as Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck. You don’t need “big name”
    celebrities to give you credibility. As Samson’s strength depended on
    keeping his hair uncut, your strength lies in keeping your principles
    intact. And unless you want to wind up like the Republican freshmen in 1994,
    avoid Newt Gingrich like the plague!

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    1. Lindsey

      Don: I guess you think that Sarah and Glenn have no principles. Having attended many Tea Parties I have found that the people that attend have a very large range of views on many subjects. If you only want people that agree with everything that Ron Paul says then I suggest you form the Ron Paul Party. By doing that you may average 10% in the Republican primaries like Ron did in the last presidential race. Otherwise, I feel that people like Glenn and Sarah are powerful allies. By the way, who went to the Tea Party convention and who is going to CPAC?

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      1. Don Jusko

        No, I suggest you start a Palin party, she wants war and a lot of other bad ideas that Ron Paul doesn’t.

        Don’t tell me what the Tea Party wants. I don’t want what you want and call you an infiltrator.

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        1. Lindsey

          Don and Mark: All I can say is who is at CPAC and who was at the Tea Party convention. RINOs go to CPAC. I’m sure Ron Paul will get thrown into the back room at CPAC just like he did last year while he had an opportunity to get center stage for once in his life at the Tea Party convention.

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          1. Lindsey

            Don and Mark: I just looked at CPAC’s schedule. Ron Paul gets to speak at the PRIME TIME hour of 4:30 on FRI afternoon. Who does CPAC think is important? Not Ron Paul! Its Jim DeMint and Marco Rubio who give the opening and Col. Allen West (Republican candidate in my district #22 in Fl.) and Glenn Beck who close it out Saturday night! Ron gets thrown under the bus again!

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          2. longshotlouie

            I believe Dr. Paul took the correct course.

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          3. mildearth

            Thanks for sharing your thoughts Lindsey but you’re not going to be able to stop this train.

            Ron Paul 2012

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      2. Mark Woychik

        Lindsey
        Do you know what you do when you quit a bad habit? You replace it with something else, something good, something to take it’s place or it will come creeping right back at you. Read Chuck Baldwins latest post http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/baldwin/100212 The tea party movement was really started with Ron Paul. It’s being hijacked by Sarah Palin. If you don’t want to be one of those people in 2012 saying well I know my candidate isn’t perfect, but it beats having Blah Blah Blah in the White House for 4 years. (YOU CHOOSE THE NAME FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH) In my opinion if the media gives us anyone run don’t walk away from them. 5 years ago I saw Barack Obama on some news channel and said to the person I was with, there is our next president. He was like what? Point is they were giving him the press. You are being led to believe she is the real deal. Let’s look at what Chuck Baldwin says about her. She endorsed Rick Perry from Texas. His credentials are attended a Bilderberg meeting, Supports the North American Union, He is running against a Candidate Debra Medina who is commited to preserving Texas sovereignty, opposed the Patriot Act, Securing the Texas Border, Stop the Nafta Highway, It goes on and on. Now to Sarah Palin. Vetted by none other than the communist Henry Kissinger, She wants to expand the Patriot Act, supported banker bailouts, she’s playing both sides of the fence and is a media darling. If the mainstreet media gives you anything do just the opposite and you will probably be right on.
        Ron Paul for President if indeed there happens to be another election. I sincerely have my doubts about that one.

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        1. Lindsey

          Mark: YES Mark, Sarah Palin is a media darling! Do you know of any other conservative that commands exclusive prime time coverage of ALL 3 cable news networks for one hour? Even Obama has a hard time doing that! That is why Ron should have went to the Tea Party convention. I’ll bet he could have gotten some badly needed Prime Time instead of 4:30 PM on Friday afternoon from CPAC when 90% of the country is finishing up work and going to Happy Hour!

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          1. mildearth

            Traditionally if you want to run for president of the republican party then you attend CPAC. Congressman Paul knows his politics and the things that are expected of those that play in the field.

            You make reference to what time he’ll be speaking but the time makes no difference. Supporters will be there and would wait until 10pm if that was the time.

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          2. Don Jusko

            Lindsey, go away. You have nothing to add. I called you an infiltrator. I should have said infil-traitor.

            The CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE is just a place where people what to get seen, you pay money you get to talk. Pay for play. The speakers, some good, some very bad, have very little to do with the Tea Party. Some couldn’t pay me to listen to them. Personally I don’t want Ron Paul to speak there, that would send the right message. Don’t be in the same room as Palin, Glen Beck or Newt Gingrich. I mention them because I’m sure they are your heros.

            Example;
            Greg “Fossilman” Raymer
Exhibit Hall, Booth 611
Sponsored by Poker Players Alliance (1 hour) 
Card Deck Signing from 2004 World Series of Poker World Champion

            See the rest of the joke here,
            http://www.cpac.org/agenda_20708.html

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          3. Lindsey

            Mildearth: Dr. Paul has a loyal base of supporters. You are right about the fact that they will be there to support him. I want him to get more supporters and I don’t see the CPAC convention as a place to do that. CPAC is in my opinion a place where establishment politicians meet with establishment politicians. To put it another way, it is like preaching the gospel to evangelical Christians. It is important but you don’t win too many souls that way. Ron needs to preach to the un-evangelized in my opinion.

            I hope Ron does something spectacular at CPAC and gets some media attention and I am proven wrong. If so I’ll jump the train that Don and Mark are riding!

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          4. Sean

            Sarah Palin has to read notes on her hands when asked questions.. I bet there’s more than 50 million better qualified women to do what she’s doing. You might as well have britney spears run for president.. Poster Child.

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          5. Mark Woychik

            Lindsey
            I think you are on the right track, it just got de-railed a bit. Don please give her a break, her hearts in the right place. There are a lot of mis-informed people out there. When you get right down to it the wonder is that we all aren’t. A good book to read for those that don’t know just how big this thing we are up against is would be a book from Gary Kah. En Route to Global Occupation. Good starting point to see what we are up against. As far as the Fed goes. Read khouse.org then type in the engine of power, also do a google search on the mcfadden report

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    2. longshotlouie

      Opinion: Where We Stand
      by Adrian Murray, Fort Worth 912 President on Feb 12, 2010
      http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=274

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    3. Kathryn Smith

      YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! YOU HIT THAT NAIL ALL OVER THE HEAD AND DROVE IT INTO THE GROUND! WISH OUR “BLOG” COMMENTS WERE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND PLASTERED ALL OVER THOSE TRASHY REPORTERS’ REPORTS ON TV!

      In liberty,

      Kat

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  7. Dave

    Dr. Ron Paul is currently the BEST option America has for a president in 2012 that will fight for individual liberties and the free market, while fighting against government tyranny.

    Obama has done nothing but spend, spend, spend, without a single effort towards pulling out of this $12 trillion debt. But then again, in his defense, he has barely put a single bit of effort towards just about anything. Hey, politicians, how about less focus on how much gas our $#@%ing cars use, and more focus on our much over-due bill of $12,000,000,000.00.. or how about our men and women needlessly dying in Iraq and Afghanistan? Maybe just a brief glance at border control? I’m pretty sure we can survive using a bus now and again if gas gets too expensive, so how about focusing on the things threatening our FREEDOM.

    Please, Ron, run for president in 2012, because if I’m forced to choose between Obama and Palin, I’m going to write-in The Ghost of Andrew Jackson… or possibly hang myself.

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  8. Don Jusko

    There’s Sara Palin
    Palin said Americans want common-sense conservative solutions and a government that abides by the Constitution.
    That sounds broad enough to be an Obama quote.

    She also said:
    She said the government must adopt a pro-market agenda, lower taxes for small businesses and jumpstart energy projects – including nuclear power and offshore drilling.
    She said the nation cannot spin its way out of the threat of terrorism.

    I think terrorism is being made up, and Kennedy was killed because he wanted to end the Fed.
    I don’t want the nuclear power like she does with it’s toxic waste.
    I want to stop oil power in it’s tracts and release the technology for other forms of energy. Not drill off shore.
    Stop fighting to take over the world. Just stop the wars. She wants to fight.
    Audit the Fed.
    Protect the 2nd Amendment.
    Don’t except Sara Palin, she is a watered down version of the leadership we need.
    The tea party wants Ron Paul and whoever he wants.

    This Democratic government is out to bankrupt us and give us away. Don’t vote for any incumbent if you don’t know his voting record on issues . That’s all that counts. There is a vender that makes voting machines with a paper trail, why won’t our country buy them?

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  9. Don Jusko

    I agree with mildearth, the deck is stacked against a third party. Major networks just won’t cover them as we have seen in Ron Paul’s case before.

    I agree with Don Fowler also.

    Run not as republican or democrat both parties are stained beyond repair. The best chance is for them to run as independent or libertarian. Please allow me to explain, People want change neither of the 2 main parties offer that. I have been registered as independent for many years. However last year I reregistered as democrat and supported obama financially and with my families vote. This is a vote we regret.

    That is exactly my story also.

    It seems like larger more funded groups take over smaller groups and change the agenda to fit their profile. Republicans can’t take over the teaparty and let war mongering Palin head it. The teaparty is not a republican or democratic party. Palin is not the answer and should not be allowed to head this new teaparty convention. Now, how do we stop this Republican convention from taking the Teaparty name and speaking for me?

    Audit the Fed

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  10. Ryan

    Ron Paul should run with some old conservative man from the hills, I’d honestly support that ticket. And by the way – don’t run as a Republican, I only vote Independent/libertarian from here on out

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    1. mildearth

      Although I do understand the idea of only voting for a 3rd party it has been said by Congressman Paul and is pretty evident that the current US political system is not very democratic and that the only chance of really winning requires you to be a member of one of the two main parties.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXtEPKlJhak

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      1. mildearth

        So my question would be do you want someone who could win or do you want someone to support for a year followed by disappointment?

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        1. markwoychik

          I think that’s a really deep question. What I personally think we need, is Congressman Paul to be at the forefront of this supposed grass-roots movement. Good old Sarah Palin sure seems to have glommed on to it in a New World minute. Question? How can we support Ron Paul and give him the exposure a presidential candidate needs; without tainting him with the stench of being media supported? How can we keep him in the spotlight, without buying into the media show of the week bunch?

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        2. longshotlouie

          Should I vote for my beliefs at the risk of being disappointed, or should I shelve my beliefs so I can pick the winner of the horse race and feel good?

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          1. Mark Woychik

            As far as that goes. I will give you something I saw in an old video. Cheaper by the dozen. In it the father tells one of the kids to wash his hands. The kid says Oooo Dad they will just get dirty again. To this the Dad replies, [That is just a risk we will have to take} I am sure you already know this, however if everyone took that risk the power of the enemy of the people would disappear overnight. We have to vote our convictions everytime. Look at it this way. 2004 election. The mainstream media gives us Skull and Bones (Thule society) George Bush, Or Skull and Bones (Thule Society) John Kerry. Who won Bush, Kerry or Skull and Bones? You get the drift I am sure, or you wouldn’t be on a website of people who care.

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          2. mildearth

            That depends on if you can feel good while still shelving what you believe in. Maybe if it was a horse race then that idea wouldn’t be so bad but in the world of politics I think we should be standing strong for what we believe in whether we think it’s the winning side or not.

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    2. Don Fowler

      Honestly I think Ron Paul or other true fiscally conservative members of society. Should understand this time is different. Run not as republican or democrat both parties are stained beyond repair. The best chance is for them to run as independent or libertarian. Please allow me to explain, People want change neither of the 2 main parties offer that. I have been registered as independent for many years. However last year I reregistered as democrat and supported obama financially and with my families vote. This is a vote we regret, he claimed he was for change ie no lobbiest on my staff. End this stupid war. bYea right typical politician, say one thing do another. It is rather obvious why nothing has changed in the financial regulation that has brought this country to its knees. They were a major contributor to his campaign. Goldman sacs to the tune of 1 million. Hmm interesting they are the biggest beneficiary of tarp via AIG and I believe Citi? Republicans want tort reform and they are right but it won’t happen under a democratic administration because they are big contributors to the demo party. But wait who is the biggest contributor to the republicans Hmm surprise the health care insurance industry. Gee do think this has something to do with their total opposition to any change in the current for profit model? Unless of course it boosts the profits of the pharma and insurance industries. I stand here in disgust of both parties. I had started looking into this tea party movement. So now I hear people want Sara Palin to lead it. Wow you do then you have just lost my vote! I guess I will be voting Demo again. She is no fiscal conservative durring her tenure as mayor of Wassila Alaska the towns budget increased by 50%. She created a new position as her assistant to do her day to day stuff. You know the mayors job. (typical big government thinker if you ask me.) Oh wait if by conservative you mean its the mayors job to go to the city library to inspect the books for anything she considers objectional and have it removed by threat of firing. Then you are correct however that is not the kind of conservativism I care to be a part of.
      For the record my voting record Reagan, perot, clinton, libertarian candidate(forgot the name) Obama. In short I keep bouncing around and in the end I get the same result. Crappy bloated government that cares more about election campaign funds than they do the good of the country. I sincerely believe if we do not radically change the direction of this country we are all in major trouble! Escpecially our children and grandchildren who will be left to clean up this mess up. I find it hilarious to see all of the republicans now are trying to align themselves with the outrage of groups like the tea party movement. When in fact they already had their chance and blew it in my opinion just like Obama did with me. The only two candidates I am aware of that deserve that honor is Ron Paul and Peter schiff. I am sure there are others I am just not aware of them. Thanks for letting me vent

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      1. mildearth

        All I’m going to say is the Tea Party has been hijacked and isn’t totally a unit of the same movement that it once was. You can read through many of the comments here and you’ll find maybe one or two persons that favor Palin and the rest think of her as you just explained.

        Sadly the conservatism you spoke of about checking books for objectional content is more about social conservatism and many members of the republican party are members because they feel strongly about their social conservative ideals.

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        1. Don Fowler

          Thanks Mildearth At the very least we should have a couple of very interesting years
          Don
          End The Fed! Ron Paul 2012!

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        2. Lindsey

          Mildearth: I suggest you read Palin’s book and then make comments. You might have a different view of her once you read the book.

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          1. mildearth

            Why do you say that? Is it because everything in the book is true because it must be and I’d know it if I read it? I’ve done a fair share of reading about Mrs. Palin but you can be sure I won’t be reading her book.

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          2. markwoychik

            I have to agree with mildearth. The very fact that Sarah Palin has done all these talk shows with the intellectually bankrupt, and is being touted in the media, would make one think that she has been appointed the newly anointed Repulican Candidate. When will we wake up and smell a rat when we are exposed to it. If the main street council on foreign relations, tri-laterist, bilderburg, federal reserve gives us someone; run don’t walk away from them. She is playing ball with them, that’s why she has all the press. She can dance around a pointed question without giving any concrete answers just like the rest of the puppets we elect every 4 years. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT PERIOD.

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          3. Lindsey

            Mildearth: I see you have an open mind. Why won’t you read her book? Did you read enough about Sarah on the Huffington Post? Or did you read enough on this site? Hopefully you have read Ron Paul’s book, End the Fed, or have you read enough opinions about the Fed to make up your mind without doing any in-depth research?

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      2. markwoychik

        I would say you have been hoodwinked in your voting for years. Reagonomics was the same old tax and spend, trickle down economics that has always been the downfall of the masses. Clinton gave us the treaty of Rio. Anyone remember that? It was said in Rio that either the United States of America had to come down to the third worlds standard of living, of they had to come up to ours. Well since the U.N. has a population control agenda and if the 3rd world came up to our standard of living there would be a 3rd world population explosion, it was decided we should come down to their standard of living. We really need to watch that what our elected puppets matches up to our expectations of them. When you saw Obama and McCain both vote for the bailout in 2008 that should have been your first clue. Sorry to say this however you have no-one to blame for AIG then yourself. If it smells like a rat, and looks like a rat it must be a rat.

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    3. Kathryn Smith

      Well, I see what you are saying – your disdain for the republican party and I as well as others share similar sentiments. But Please, if Ron Paul was trying to gain the Republican Nomination, do not turn your back on him. REgister republican and vote for that man in the primaries. Then, if he loses that ticket, we all most vote for his Indpendent run in 2012 in the general election. We cannot vote for parties – we MUST vote for Ron Paul! =)

      “United we stand; Divided we fall’ – Patrick Henry

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  11. Cory Cain

    Ron Paul.. please run in 2012. We need you!

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  12. Mark Woychik

    Has anyone looked at Senate Bill SB2009 ? It was passed without congressional approval in January of 2009 as a rider to a I.R.S. bill. Basically sneaked through. In it if you own a gun and file a 2010 tax return you will have to list all guns you own, submit to fingerprints, and or a search of your house to make sure you keep them locked up. Sounds like Nazi Germany during Hitlers rise to power. If you don’t believe it Google HR45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing and Record of Sales Act of 2009.

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    1. Kathryn Smith

      WHHHHHHHHAATT! No, I missed that one!

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  13. Eric

    Ron Paul. Period. Theres no need to have anyone on the ticket with the same IQ as their own cup size.

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  14. Ryan

    Ron Paul is the MAN!!!!. Ron Paul for Pres!!! He might be the only person in america that could take down the FED

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  15. Mark Woychik

    Senator Rockefeller is trying to pass a bill which would give Obama the power to shut off the internet, all telecommunications and the radio in the event of a national emergency. It is called the cyber security act. You can join a petition to stop this dictator at the American Center for Law and Justice
    877-989-2255
    Freeeeeeeeedom

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    1. Don Jusko

      I called them, they are getting lawyers to fight this. Nice going Mark.

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  16. Don Jusko

    Derivatives were sold on a lie, triage the derivatives on their books, accounting fraud is what they are about and they are not regulated. Obama’s Larry Shipero must be removed.
    Banks must be accountable, our Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation should seize the insolvent bankrupt banks, nationalize the Fed. Don’t give them and AIG more money to squander. They are gutting this economy, 1.5 quadrillion dollars in derivatives, 375% of the gross domestic product, 50 to 100 times the worlds GWP. End the control of the Remove Obama now, audit the Fed. Unapprove the Federal Reserve Act.
    The war is illegal, Palin wants us to continue the war, make it bigger, spend more money. It’s sounds like that’s what you are for also John Austin, you know too much about how to cover up what this government is doing to be an average citizen in my opinion. Right now this government is importing people here to dilute our way of life.

    International Banking Syndicate controls the Fed
    Bring home our congress before they can do more damage or force them to follow a given set of rules, leave the freshman in congress. Shell we make a list of these rules here and sent them to congrass along with their pink slips if they don’t follow them?
    Fall of the Republic DVD, infowars.com , download at prisonplanet.tv
    23.7 trillion for bailouts from the Federal Reserve

    John Austin comments: “I will never drop Sarah Palin. She is correct.”

    If Ron wants her, I want her. I don’t think he wants her. I also think you (John Austin) have an agenda here to make it look like Ron Paul wants the war to continue, he doesn’t. “They were walked in, they should walk out”

    Bring our troops home now, here is where the battle over money is being fought and the average person needs their sons and daughters to defend them against this imposed bankruptcy. Not get killed in Iraqi’s war. If we wanted to do any real good we would have destroyed the poppy fields a long time ago. Our current politicians are destroying us. Destroying us and our sovereignty is the New World Order plan. Forget Palin, look into his son. Get rid of all the illegal squatters brought in to dilute our country.

    Sarah wants us to keep fighting, keep sending troops not end the wars.
    We are not being attacked, 9-11 was a farce, the film footage shows it was a farce.
    We must not become a police state.

    Audit the Fed now. Where’s the birth certificate?

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    1. Don Jusko

      Ron Paul keeps on getting bigger.

      Founded with Campaign for Liberty’s support, a network of Ron Paul youth, and a vision to educate and train the next generation of Constitutionalists, YAL is here to stay!

      The ten conservative principles for Republicans, as distributed by the RNC, are as follows:
      (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill.
      (2) We support market-based healthcare reform and oppose Obama-style government-run healthcare.
      (3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap-and-trade legislation.
      (4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check.
      (5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants.
      (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges.
      (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat.
      (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act.
      (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing healthcare rationing and denial of healthcare and government funding of abortion.
      (10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

      Audit the Fed now

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  17. Don Jusko

    John, Sarah is for the war, just like Obama. The war is run on credit, money that we don’t have. Audit the Fed, bring our troops home. Drop Palin, please. Ron Paul will get some of my freedoms back. So will his son. Drop Palin now, I don’t want her name mentioned here again.

    Audit the Fed now.

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    1. mildearth

      You have to give John credit, he has determination. I don’t agree with him about Palin for the exact point you mentioned. She does speak about shrinking the government and being for the people but she doesn’t have the integrity for us to look back on to be sure of what she means or to be sure that what she says she would also do. I just read yesterday that while Palin likes to point out that Alaska was against big government they received the most money back per person than any other state. They got $1.84 back for every $1 paid in federal taxes. It seems to me that republicans like to say small government but then also push for big war which is also big government. The democrats just don’t hide big government when they push it for reasons like health care or the welfare state. The point is that both sides use fear tactics to increase their power and increase the size of government.

      I’ll say I’ve read enough about the fact checking done on Palin’s book that I don’t care if she can write a poem. I’ve also read reports that have her email communications with others and from what I’ve seen she writes just like she talks and to me that is not in an informed way. She plain out puts her foot in her mouth and just doesn’t notice but instead blames the liberal media when they call her out. The neocons or I should just say Fox and others with the same talking points complain and say it’s a liberal attack yet they attack liberals all day long while they can’t get out of Palin’s butt. It’s the phony us vs. them argument to distract people and make them think they are informed and can make a change while the corporate status quo stays the same.

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      1. mildearth

        The southernavenger hits the nail on the head.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgW5tgDIxY

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    2. John Austin

      Don Jusko? I will never drop Sarah Palin. She is correct. Do you remember the Vice-Presidential debate with Joe Biden and how Sarah blew him away? Wait until Sarah and Ron Paul debate the Obama Administration’s current Policies about the War’s, the Economy, and the Federal Reserve.

      Q: What is your plan for an exit strategy?

      PALIN: I am very thankful that we do have a good plan and the surge and the counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq that has proven to work, I know that the other ticket opposed this surge.

      BIDEN: With all due respect, I didn’t hear a plan. Barack Obama offered a clear plan. Shift responsibility to Iraqis over the next 16 months. Draw down our combat troops. We’ll end this war. For John McCain, there’s no end in sight.

      PALIN: Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq and that is not what our troops need to hear today, that’s for sure. You guys opposed the surge. The surge worked. Barack Obama still can’t admit the surge works. We’ll know when we’re finished in Iraq when the Iraqi government can govern its people and when the Iraqi security forces can secure its people. And our commanders on the ground will tell us when those conditions have been met. We are getting closer and closer to that point, that victory that’s within sight.

      (WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, HECK OR HIGH WATER, THEY WERE SENT THERE TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL, RIGHT OR WRONG, THEY WILL DIE IF WE DO NOT SUPPORT THEM, AND THEY ARE JUST HUMAN BEINGS IN HARMS WAY. LET THEM DO THEIR JOBS, BRING THEM HOME, AND CONCENTRATE ON A GREAT “DEFENSE”).

      BIDEN: I don’t have the stomach for genocide when it comes to Darfur. We can now impose a no-fly zone. It’s within our capacity. We can lead NATO if we’re willing to take a hard stand.

      PALIN: We can agree on that also, the support of the no-fly zone, making sure that all options are on the table there also. America is in a position to help. What I’ve done in my position as governor, when I and others in the legislature found out we had some millions of dollars in Sudan, we called for divestment through legislation of those dollars to make sure we weren’t doing anything that would be seen as condoning the activities there in Darfur. That legislation hasn’t passed yet but it needs to because all of us, as individuals, and as humanitarians and as elected officials should do all we can to end those atrocities in that region of the world.

      (Sarah wants to win the War with Victory, not defeat. Sarah is working hard to end our Monetary Policy’s in the Wars and to re- distribute the Money back to the American People).

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    3. Mark Woychik

      For me all I had to see was Palins’ coming out party. She is and was the debutante on Oprah!
      If that don’t wake people up nothing will. The media circus has arrived just in time for Christmas. Get ready to hear, you are wasting your vote. Ron Paul has no chance to win. Vote for Palin or Obama gets in. We will be spoon fed another bust for the common man, or wo man, and another win, win for the N.W.O. I hate to use new speak however maybe in this case it is appropriate. Are we speaking this thing into reality? Palin has the scruples of a jackal. Quit talking about her. Look at what the news media gives us and think about it for once. O.J. simpson, Elian Gonzalez, Terry Schaible, Monica Lewinsky, Sarah Palin and her Jackass future not so future son-in-law, The baloon boy swine flu (what a joke). We are so busy watching the media circus we lose track of what is truly going on. I have an idea. Why don’t we be the ones that make the headlines? Let’s keep on track here. Ron Paul for President and all he stands for. Ron I know it is a little early however. Let’s get a ground swell going. When will you announce? If we must talk about something relevent, let’s talk about the fact that Obama is going before a federal judge in early January to produce his birth certificate. Why have we not seen anything in the main street media about this? It is very germain to our country. Let us pray for that judge. For if history is any indicator to what might happen to him, he needs our prayers. Not only that, but wag the dog! are we going to see something happen before his hearing in our country? or in the world? which makes people forget about this hearing? I don’t know, however I think it’s time to be vigilant in our prayers for our nation.

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  18. John Austin

    Merry Christmas! And A Happy New Year!

    This is one of Sarah Palin’s Poems… —transcribed from William Shattner’s performance on the Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, July 27, 2009.

    And some may think that Sarah can’t write? This is a Great Woman!

    Soaring through nature’s finest snow.
    Denali, the great one, soaring under the midnight sun.
    And then, the extremes. In the winter time
    it’s the frozen road
    that is competing with all of its ice fogged frigid beauty,
    the cold though, doesn’t it split
    the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs?
    And then in the summertime such extreme
    summertime
    about a hundred and fifty degrees hotter
    than just some months ago, and then
    just some months from now,
    with fireweed blooming
    along the frost heaves
    and merciless rivers that are rushing
    and carving
    and reminding us that here,
    Mother Nature wins.
    And it is as throughout all Alaska
    that big wild, good life
    teeming along the road that is
    north to the future.

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    1. Mark Woychik

      Nature aint my mother, However God is my father. At least that is what I read in the bible.

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  19. mildearth

    Happy Thanksgiving to all the Ron Paul family.

    Peace and Love to everyone.

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    1. Mark Woychik

      Hey mildearth. Ya know at first I wasn’t sure I was onboard with all you say. But you do have some posts that really hit home. On this one I can agree 100% I mean everyone. All Gods children have a Happy Thanksgiving. Peace, Love, Joy and Happyness.

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  20. Eddie

    RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!! WE must make a REAL change!!!!!!

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  21. John Austin

    Don Jusko ? Sarah Palin’s response?

    On Sunday she dined and prayed with the Rev. Billy Graham.

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    1. longshotlouie

      Is that your last comment, again?

      Can you say ‘tool’?

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    2. Don Jusko

      Ok John, I can accept that a short answer to this post:

      The ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed and another suit to end prayer from the military completely. They’re making great (bad) progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention Jesus’ name in prayer thanks to the wretched ACLU.

      Longshot, I don’t understand your post. John can change his mind and post anytime he wants to. I’m sure Ron Paul takes offense to what the ACLU is pushing, what is your opinion on the ACLU? Should it be a major point as I think it should be?

      Audit the Fed now.

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  22. John Austin

    I am very disappointed by some comments posted recently and I will be blunt…this is my last comment. The Libertarian Party is failing because we have never been able to conclude consensus concerning Foreign Policy. We as Libertarians (Conservatives) want Liberty, Freedom, the Pursuit of Happiness (Justice) and our right to own Property. We don’t want to be bothered by the Government or intrusions on our personal Freedoms. We believe in the Principles that our Forefathers fought for. Sarah Palin believes this.

    An example of Foreign Policy:

    If someone innocently trespasses on your Property, you will most likely defend yourself with our Constitutional 2nd Amendment “Right to Bear Arms”. You would question their intentions. It would most likely be Peaceful. On the other hand, it may be an attack (Maybe terrorist) on you, your Family or Property. This is exactly what happens across Borders throughout the World. National Borders and Personal Property Borders are one and the same. Would you not fight outside of your Border to protect yourself, your Freedom and Family? Your Property would be occupied quickly otherwise. This is exactly what the United States has had to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    A question for you: should we become an Isolationist Nation like we were before WW2?

    This is where Ronald Reagan and Sarah Palin are correct. Notice that Sarah says a “strong defense”, not a “strong offense”. We must protect our Borders, be Diplomats, and defend our Freedoms…and our Constitution.

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    1. Mildearth

      I notice by “strong defense” it is left vague as has been stated before. If you followed what Ron Paul has been saying then you would know that he does believe in a strong defense and not being an isolationist but also not acting like the police of the world. Bring all of our troops home and talk to and trade with those countries. Iraq didn’t do anything to us to cause us to wage war on them and still we’ve been there for almost a decade. You seem to accept that we had to be there to protect our borders. Some of us believe that when our troops are home and our intelligence system is working properly that we can thwart attacks on this country without occupying foreign countries. There is more terrorists in this world than just the ones in the Middle East. So I would imagine if we miraculously got rid of all the terrorists in the Middle East then the next move would be to the Philippines or South America or we could even look at the terrorists that harbor in our own country? It is foolish imo to think you can kill all enemies to your state and do so by occupying foreign countries and killing innocent people on your quest.

      I just will finish by saying you seem to be trying to convince us that the war foreign policy is the right choice on a board that supports Congressman Paul. Congressman Paul every day says bring the troops home. He even says now that the enemy has moved out of Afghanistan and we don’t know were the battle lines are there because of the distraction of the Iraq war that took away from the proper battle that we’ve lost our way there and just need to come home. So your statement about foreign policy seems a bit counter to what most supporters of Congressman Paul and Mr. Paul himself would believe in. The wars were pushed on the people by the media and the media continues to do it and brainwash the people that don’t know how to look outside of that box. Because that is the case doesn’t mean we should believe it too.

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      1. John Austin

        Mildearth: Great Post!

        The United States of America would be occupied within weeks if we did not have a strong defense (and) offense.

        The point: “Some of us believe that when our troops are home and our intelligence system is working properly that we can thwart attacks on this country without occupying foreign countries”.

        We do not live in a Utopian World Mildearth.

        How soon can you guarantee that our intelligence system is working properly? I can’t. It may take many years before that happens. Where is the Money? What would you do if Outlaws invaded your Property? Call 911? No…You would have to go on the offensive just like the USA to protect yourself before help arrives. It would be much too late.

        Most good Football Teams win by a good defense. However, a good offense is needed to “Win the Game”. The Offense of the United States is why we still live in a free society.

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        1. Mildearth

          I think we would have to agree to disagree on the subject of occupying foreign countries for our own defense.

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          1. Mark Woychik

            I would like to use a football term on defense. Offense wins games Defense wins championships. If we chose to go on the offense around the world we might win a few games, but we will never win the championship. We need to stay at home and defend our home. When I look at all the people beating the drums of war, and saying let’s go get um. It makes me wonder. If most of our national guard is off fighting foreign wars, and if most of our war material is at the four corners of the world, how safe are we at home if a foreign invader decided to attack right here? I read an article in 1998 that the country that we have the largest trade deficit with bought 7 of the largest lock and dams in the great lakes. If you read the book peril in panama, many ex military and some ex joint chiefs of staff have said when we left panama, the peoples liberation army moved in. A very great chunk of our national debt is owed to China. I think let us bring them home, start to re-industrialize, and build windmills instead of bombs, sustainable farms instead of bullets, fix our crumbling infrastructure instead of bombing others infrastructures. Then and only then will we be able to say America land of the free, with liberty and justice for all. If we are burdoned with the expense of war, we will never be able to take advantage of Gods great gift to all of us. Life

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        2. Mark Woychik

          I have to agree with mildearth on this one. You can’t kill people into loving you. When we listen to the mainstream media, beating the drums of war, we get caught up in the scare tactic. Hitler used it very successfully. I have to think if this so called christian nation dropped bibles and bread instead of bombs we would be far more successful in winning the war of the mind. That is where it all starts. You can’t win wars anymore with weapons. They are way too sophisticated. There are weapons that can wipe out mankind as we know it. Or wipe it out completely. You are fighting principles not people. If we neglect to take the moral high ground we lose the people we are supposed to be fighting for. You can’t use shock and awe and make people love you. Why is it we are not able to see the real cost on the ground in Iraq? Is it because peoples’ grandmothers, and grandfathers, and aunts and uncles, and wives and children are the real casulties in this war. If Iraq was over here for what reason I don’t know and was dropping bombs on your loved ones, would you love them or hate them? If your son or daughter had half of his or her face blown off and was missing a leg or arm from an indiscriminite bomb from shock and awe would you love the people that dropped the bomb? Love conquers all. If we really knew the reason we were at war we would all just say bring them home. Remember George Bush senior in the first Iraq war?
          Here is what he said I will try to quote it from memory. What we are doing here is something bigger than all of us. We are creating a New World Order. There goes the sovereigty of nations. There goes the right to a jury of your peers, there goes freedom of the press, there goes innocent until proven guilty, I saw again you can’t kill people into loving you. We have become the aggressor. We talk about democracy, democracy ceases to exist without freedom of the press. I for one think that Washington makes the news, exports it to the networks, and tells them what to report, Instead of nation-building we should be fixing our own. Then and only then will people want to be like us.

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          1. John Austin

            Touché Mark Woychik. You have written great words and I agree with you, as does Sarah. We need to have a great offense though to keep us in the game. Great Posts Mark!

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      2. Don Jusko

        Haven’t we had enough vagueness with Obama? Your are right again Mildearth. Palin is too vague.
        Haven’t we had enough scare tactics to make us vote for the warlords?
        Raegun took away some of my most precious freedoms.
        The government is getting too big and it should be slowed down in a forceful manor. Audit the Fed and we will put an end to this reckless spending. Let’s here Palin say that. She won’t. Let’s here her say stop the wars outside our country, she won’t say that.

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        1. John Austin

          Sarah Palin echoes Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve’s role in crisis:

          September 23rd, 2009 10:18 am | by Marc Gallagher

          Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fired a shot at the Federal Reserve in her coming-out speech in Hong Kong today, blaming the central bank for the current crisis and disagreeing with the idea that the Fed should have a greater role in preventing the next crisis.

          It was an echo of fellow Republican and Texas congressman Ron Paul, who has led the charge in Congress to perform an audit of the Federal Reserve with an eye to eventually eliminating it.

          “How can we discuss reform without addressing the government policies at the root of the problems? The root of the collapse? And how can we think that setting up the Fed as the monitor of systemic risk in the financial sector will result in meaningful reform?” she said.

          “The words ‘fox’ and ‘henhouse’ come to mind. The Fed’s decisions helped create the bubble. Look at the root cause of most asset bubbles, and you’ll see the Fed somewhere in the background.”

          More generally, Mrs. Palin took the tack that the financial crisis occurred because government got in the way of free enterprise.

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          1. Don Jusko

            What will she say to this? Or will she side-step the issue?
            The ACLU has filed a suit to have all military cross-shaped headstones removed and another suit to end prayer from the military completely. They’re making great progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention Jesus’ name in prayer thanks to the wretched ACLU.

            Ron Paul needs a strong American like he is.
            Don’t guess, ask her first before you answer.

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    2. Mildearth

      The way you state your question about being an isolationist country, you sound like the attack machine that we call cable news. It has been pointed out that we would not be an isolationist country but we wouldn’t have our troops stationed in more than one hundred countries around the world. We wouldn’t try to be the police of the world but rather the example of peace and prosperity. I’ve always been taught that you lead by example and our current example of leadership is to kill all those that you think would oppose you. That type of leadership has an effect in the world and also on our soil. The idea is to bring our troops home and barter with all countries and not to overly fund countries blindly like we have been doing with Israel. It would still be important to protect our country and also to go to war should the nation see fit. If the congress should declare war because of the necessity for it then that is what we would do. It wouldn’t just be an open door option for going to battle at will as it has become the roll of our President in recent years.

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  23. John Austin

    Dear Friends,

    There are so many fundamental decisions that must be made in America to move us forward as a free, safe, and patriotic nation! I’m thankful tonight for what feels like a new beginning as we seize opportunities to help put America on the right path.

    It’s November 16th, and I’ve finished my book. I’ve told my story of how I got to where I am, and now I’m eager to move forward. And I want you to join me on the road ahead!

    Our nation is at a critical crossroads, but the way forward is clear. Ronald Reagan showed us the way. He entered office during an economic recession even worse than our current one, but he left office after overseeing the largest peacetime economic expansion in American history. His policies worked! He charted the course for us.

    C. S. Lewis once wrote: “We all want progress, but if you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road.” We need to get back on the right road. In order to progress, we must return to our founding principles of limited government, fiscal responsibility, and strong national defense.

    We’re going to work as Commonsense Conservatives for everyday, hardworking Americans by tackling issues that you care about and by helping candidates who will stand up for our nation. We’ll help candidates (regardless of party) who have the courage to go to Washington or serve statewide and make the tough decisions needed to get our country back on track.

    We can’t do this alone – this effort needs good, commonsense Americans now more than ever.

    Thank you so much for your support and for your love of our country. My book, Going Rogue, is dedicated to you – to Patriots -who fight for freedom!

    With an Alaska Heart, Sarah Palin

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    1. Mildearth

      I didn’t read anything there about the current wars we are waging. I’m pretty sure she is pro-war in the two battles we are in or else she wouldn’t be shown on Fox news all day. This speech you copied surely doesn’t look or sound like the normal words of Sarah Palin but rather like someone had written a speech for her so she could look good.

      …With an Alaska Heart..that is on book tour around the country because I quit my Alaska job.

      If mediocre leadership is what your looking for then I guess you’ve got the right speaker. This is a Ron Paul board though and we’re not really up for mediocre as we’ve had enough of that already over this last decade.

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    2. Don Jusko

      I agree with Mildearth. Sarah did not write this. That’s a plus for her. The minus is that she may have let this John Austin write for her. Being on the side of Reagan policies is not something to be proud of.
      Don’t try to influence Dr. Paul’s running choice.
      Audit the Fed.

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    3. michael

      About Sarah Palin:
      “He entered office during an economic recession even worse than our current one”: FALSE. If Sarah P. believes this she’s very lost. Our financial situation is unparralelled in America. It cannot be compared to a previous recession. It’s worse than the Great Depression. Watch it unfold.
      And still… nothing about the constitution but a galliant effort beating around the bush with “cliche” words like “commonsense”. She’s not to be trusted in my opinion. She’s so vague. I wonder why? Ron Paul’s specific. I don’t wonder why. It’s because Ron Paul has nothing to hide, he’s not afraid to stand up and speak the truth, and then do what he says.

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      1. Mildearth

        I have to agree with Michael here. Palin is very vague in most of the issues when she is questioned about important topics like war and the economy. The only thing she is not vague about is her Christianity and her belief system that she wears on her sleeve which seems to be a means to convince people that that is the reason to vote for her. You can watch the recent O’Reilly interview and watch how she dances in circles with her answers. I personally prefer someone that knows about the issues and the topics that are important and when questioned about them will come right out with how he/she feels about it regardless of if what they say is the popular belief.

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  24. John Austin

    I have researched Sarah Palin for the past year. Sarah and Dr. Paul are very close in their Political views, other than that Sarah has a Son fighting in Afghanistan. (Foreign Policy) Dr. Paul is up there in years of Age, and I believe that a Paul/Palin ticket may win an Election. Dr. Ron Paul would make a great “Chief of Staff” and advisor to a Palin Administration. Sarah would also fit fine in the Cabinet or Vice-Presidency of a Ron Paul Presidency. There are many other good Candidates also…just a thought…

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    1. Mildearth

      I don’t know how having a son in Afghanistan actually accredits her with foreign policy experience and I’ve heard her talk and she seems pretty clueless about real issues. She is pro war which Ron Paul is not and she seems to be on the favored side of the neocons like Hannity and crowd which only seems to happen when you have the same viewpoint or the same contributors. I remember reading an interview done with Congressman Paul and he was asked about Palin as she had said she liked some of his views and he likened her to the country club republicans. Here is just the latest nonsense that has spewed from her lips..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkrUQ6q1kZk

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