Ron Paul: It’s fraudulent to steal from the people by diluting the value of the money

Channel: Fox Business
Date: 01/14/2010


David Asman: They bow their heads, and after getting slapped, they looked up sheepishly and asked, “Please, sir, can I have another?” Now, others did stand their ground. But what was the purpose of this show trial? Was it really to get to the root of the financial crisis, or was it to deflect blame to the easy targets while setting the stage for yet another tax increase?

After all the bankers, we’re just taking advantage of some dumb fiscal regulatory and monetary policies that government officials have been putting in place for decades. The bankers were taking advantage of a bad situation. For that they’ve been pillaried and paraded through the press the way capitalist voters were force-marched with dunce caps by Mao’s red guards during the Cultural Revolution.

Of course, many bankers were shortsighted. Like the rest of us, they just kept overextending during the boom cycle. And in some cases there was actual double dealing. Some banks recommended bad financial instruments that were being shorted by another division of the same bank. That’s bad, it’s possibly illegal and it should be exposed.

But aren’t we blaming the wrong people for the cause of the crisis? The right people to blame are folks like Alan Greenspan who left interest rates too low for too long because he believed a nation homeowners would be good for the economy at any price. Folks like Chris Dodd who are taking favors from sub-prime lenders while rewarding those lenders with billions of your tax dollars in legislation. Folks like Barney Frank who spat at anybody who was worried about Fannie and Freddie getting billions of dollars over their heads with these lousy sub-prime loans, folks like Tim Geithner who got us in so far over our heads with AIG’s bailout, that he now may be losing his job over it.

In short, the real culprits in this mess are the politicians and the bureaucrats who let the good times roll without any consideration of the consequences of bloated government and easy money.

So, are we blaming the wrong people? Let’s ask Republican Congressman Ron Paul, who joins us now from his home I believe. Good to see you, Congressman, thanks for being here.

Ron Paul: Thank you, David.

David Asman: So are we blaming the wrong people when we focus on all the attention on the bankers?

Ron Paul: If you do only the bankers and include all the bankers, yes. Some bankers know exactly what they’re been doing and they’ve been benefiting from the easy money system, and they were wildly speculating and making a lot of money. But they were also encouraged by the moral hazard of FDIC and “too big to fail” and they knew what they were doing. So they were acting in a logical way. But the real culprit that I’ve been talking about for so long has been easy money too long, and that is low interest rates, the false signals of a lot of savings out there and you should be investing and that, of course, isn’t looked at.

David Asman: It started with the Fed and Alan Greenspan?

Ron Paul: Well, even before that. I base our modern calamity in our financial situation from 1971 when all the restraints were removed from creating currency out of thin air. And that is the reason you have your deficits – because of the lack of the tying of our dollar to anything other than paper.

David Asman: Let me just be specific for the folks out there that might not remember. 1971 is when Nixon separated the dollar from gold.

Ron Paul: Yes, and this introduced an era where Congress could run up deficits for any reason, whether it’s for policing the world or for the welfare state, and at the same time accommodating the financial situation too; the financial organizations knew about this, too. So the Fed had to monetize the deficit. If you don’t have a central bank that monetizes the debt, you put a lot of restraints on big government. Anybody that thinks government should be smaller and held in check, they have to believe in sound money, because it’s with the Federal Reserve System and the ability to create this money and the following corruption and the malinvestment and the financial bubbles and the bailouts. It’s all a consequence.

But if you do concentrate on a narrow group of bankers and say they created the whole problem without looking at legislation and without looking at the Federal Reserve and without looking at all the regulations that are a burden as well, then you’re really missing the boat.

David Asman: Alright, let’s talk about some individuals here: Barney Frank and other congressmen and senators who supported Fannie and Freddie getting way in over their head on the sub-prime loans. That had a lot to do with this as well, didn’t it?

Ron Paul: Oh yeah. I think this line of credit to the treasury was only 2 billion dollars, but I always said that when push comes to shove, the Fed will end up owning these derivatives and these securities. But I had legislation in 8, 10 years ago that said, “Remove the line of credit, remove this guarantee that the Fed would always step in”. Because if the Fed had not stepped in, you would have had the dollar crisis which has just been delayed, because too many around the world, for example the Chinese, are owning all these and if they literally collapse you would have had a bigger calamity. But all we have done is delayed the monetary crisis because we have allowed our Federal Reserve to buy up all these securities. But that was part of the system of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and propping them up and guaranteeing that everybody can get a loan, no down payments, 125% as equity, the whole mess. When this history is written, it will be unbelievable.

David Asman: Unbelievable. And frankly, congressman, what I would call out-and-out bribes. I mean, when you had Chris Dodd, who was the head of the banking committee writing legislation that benefited people that he was getting sweetheart deals from to the tune of 300 billion dollars in that housing bill. I would call that criminal behavior, wouldn’t you?

Ron Paul: Yeah, this is fraud in the individual sense and it should be punished and it should be looked into.

David Asman: Well, it was looked into and of course it was whitewashed, Congressman. That was the problem.

Ron Paul: Yeah, but also, the fraud is in the money. I mean, it’s fraudulent to steal from the people by diluting the value of the money. Debasing the currency is the big fraud which destroys the economy and takes away the jobs and puts the burden of inflation on the little people.

The one thing that they never talk about is our medical care system is in a crisis because it costs too much. Well, it costs too much because there is an inflationary factor. That isn’t even discussed. So everybody is cheated when you have fraud in the monetary system. But the individual fraud – how people take advantage of this and adds on to it and then there is corruption involved. Yes, but that to me is probably much smaller than the fraud of the monetary system and what we’ve been living with.

David Asman: But I have to ask you about Tim Geithner, because of course, he’s in the news. He’s going to have to answer questions before Congress. Do you think he deserves to go, based on what we’re now finding out about his role in AIG?

Ron Paul: Yeah. And he deserves to go but I warn people that’s not going to solve all our problems. They’ll replace somebody that believes in the same things that he believes in. The point that I made with the Geithner affair is that it makes my point: transparency of the Federal Reserve. We should know about all those deals, and if they knew we were going to know about all those deals, they wouldn’t be making so many and getting into so many problems.

David Asman: Well, you know we support you on the transparency issue. We actually support you in court on that. Ron Paul, great to see you, thanks for being here, appreciate it.

Ron Paul: Thank you, David.


  • Perception

    What does Ron mean by the dilution of the value of money? Well we have to look at the agencies who create it.In the USA it’s basically the US Federal Reserve.With just a 3.4% inflation rate a currency loses 40% or more of it’s value in just 20 yrs.Inflation like interest is compounding.It is inflation based upon inflation.Who diluted our currency? We as individuals cannot because that is called counterfeiting.

    As Ron Paul said a while ago,our currency has lost 96% of it’s value since 1912 when the Fed was created.Who is responsible?

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  • Ed Rhett

    Does anybody know what money is? Money is what allows us to work.
    Money does not exist in nature, it is man made. We cannot survive without it. Right now there is not enough money to go around, and that means that a lot of us cannot work. Congress and the banksters have been playing a lot of very clever games with our money,and that is why money is short. Audit the Fed before we all starve.

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  • Larry L. Stuler



    If the actions of the federal government in Washington, D.C., seem at odds with the Constitution and, as well, at odds with the general public’s views and desires, you must know that the Federal Reserve now owns the U.S. government. Owning the U.S. government was not enough to enslave Americans due to their inherent natural-born sovereignty. So the Federal Reserve has also created Social Security in order to destroy that sovereignty. This is the basis of EVERYTHING that the government is doing. By applying for a S.S.# an American entered into an employment contract. There are no Constitutional restraints concerning the government’s own employees.

    The Federal Reserve bankrupted the U.S. federal government in the 1930’s. This is clearly evidenced by the law itself: title 11, U.S.C., “Bankruptcy”, is implemented by title 11 C.F.R., “Federal Elections”. The Federal Election Commission is charged with implementing the laws of bankruptcy. Our elections are simply to elect a bankruptcy “administration” – the Fed is in charge, so it really doesn’t matter who gets elected. President Obama ran his election on the “change” platform, but once elected, he increased the bailout money to the same people and increased the number of troops overseas. Nothing has changed at all because the Fed has ordained what will be done. Republican or Democrat, it would not have mattered who won the election.

    The following is from the Congressional Record of March 17, 1993:

    “It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress session of June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution to Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate the Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States governmental offices, officers, and departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.”

    As the Congressional Record states above, the gold standard could no longer be upheld. This means that the federal government no longer could pay gold to back up the dollar – there were too many dollars in circulation. This is bankruptcy.

    After bankrupting the government, the Federal Reserve then moved to enslave all Americans and make them pay the interest on their (counterfeit money) loans to the government.

    However, bankrupting the U.S. federal government wasn’t enough to make Americans pay the Fed’s interest because the American is sovereign, not the federal government. This has been held by the Supreme Court in several decisions, such as, United States v. Lee, 106 U.S. 196, Hale v. Henkle, 201 U.S. 43, Julliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421, and Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 419. It is expressed quite clearly within Julliard v. Greenman as follows:

    “There is no such thing as a power of inherent Sovereignty in the government of the United States. In this country sovereignty resides in the People, and Congress can exercise no power which they have not, by their Constitution entrusted to it: All else is withheld.”

    The American is sovereign not because of the Constitution, but because the organic law of the land, the Declaration of Independence, stated that “all men are created equal” (and, of course, women) is a self-evident truth. The Declaration of Independence supercedes the Constitution, so the Constitution cannot change anything to do with the self-evident truth “all men (and women) are created equal”.

    Besides the sovereignty issue that the Federal Reserve had to deal with, the federal government has no jurisdiction over intrastate commerce. Actually, this is a consequence of American sovereignty – there would be no sovereignty if the federal government could rule Americans in their commercial endeavors. The Constitution in Article I, section 8, only grants the federal government jurisdiction “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes”. This is known as foreign commerce, interstate commerce, and trade with the Indians.

    In order to get around the Constitutional restraints to complete the Fed’s control over America, Social Security was created, along with the deceptive use of legal “terms”. Once the law defines a word it is known as a “term” and you can throw the dictionary definition of that word out the window. An American who applies for a Social Security number has become a federal employee. The “SS-5” Form is an employment form. After all, only federal employees would be liable for federal employment taxes. The Constitutional restraints do not apply to the government’s own employees. Social Security was created to destroy American sovereignty.

    You may wonder, “What is the employee?”. It is the “taxpayer”. A “taxpayer” is a term defined at 26 C.F.R. 2.1-1, “Definitions” at paragraph (a)(5) as a member of the Merchant Marine, a federal employee. 26 C.F.R. 2.1-1(b) states that the terms used here are the same throughout the Internal Revenue Code and the implementing regulations.

    The federal government does not have jurisdiction over a free, sovereign American so it cannot write laws that subject an American to any duty. The Supreme Court held in United States v. Fox, 94 U.S. 315, “Since in common usage, the term person does not include the sovereign, statutes not employing the phrase are ordinarily construed to exclude it.”.

    Has any government agency ever addressed any correspondence to you as “Dear Sovereign American”? Of course not, but you are constantly bombarded with the term “taxpayer”.

    Now what exactly is F.I.C.A.? It is defined as a U.S. possession tax (26 U.S.C. section 7655). Since the federal government has no jurisdiction over intrastate commerce (commerce within a State) and no jurisdiction over sovereign Americans, it only has the limited jurisdiction as noted above. In addition, the Constitution at Article IV, section 3 grants the federal government power over its property and territory. So it may make any tax is pleases in the U.S. possessions.

    This leads to the “U.S. citizen”. This is a term defined at 26 U.S.C. section 2208 and at 26 U.S.C. section 2501 subsection (b) and exemplified in the implementing regulations at 26 C.F.R. 25.2501-1(c) as a person born in one of the States who then establishes a residence in a U.S. possession and, further, acquires U.S. possession citizenship. This is the 14th Amendment citizen who is born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction. A person born in one of the States is sovereign (as the above Supreme Court decisions have held) and not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. However, someone with U.S. possession citizenship is subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. federal government as there is no guarantee of any rights to U.S. possession citizens in the Constitution. The U.S. possession citizen is defined at 26 U.S.C. section 2209 and at 26 U.S.C. section 2501 subsection (c). The U.S. possession citizen is contrasted with the “U.S. citizen” between 26 U.S.C. sections 2208 and 2209. The same contrast is evidenced within 26 U.S.C. section 2501 between subsections 2501(b) and 2501(c).

    F.I.C.A. is a U.S. possession tax, so the government (as directed by its owners, the Fed) is relying upon the old adage that “ignorance of the law is no excuse”, and presumes that an American has U.S. possession citizenship and, therefore, is a “U.S. citizen” since that person has applied for F.I.C.A.

    The federal government has jurisdiction over its own employees and its possession citizens. Applying for a Social Security number makes an American into both a federal employee and a citizen with U.S. possession citizenship. The Social Security enrollee has given away all sovereignty and become a slave for the federal government and its owners, the Federal Reserve. This allows the Federal Reserve to collect taxes from Americans to pay off the interest on its counterfeit money loans to the government.

    What about the 16th Amendment you ask? It was ratified in 1913, 20 years before the government’s bankruptcy to the Federal Reserve. The 16th Amendment was declared to be Constitutional in the Brushaber v. Union Pacific R.R. Co., 240 U.S. 1(1916) decision three years later.

    The Supreme Court then ruled in the very next case it decided, Stanton v. Baltic Mining, 240 US 103 (1916), the following: “… that by the previous ruling it was settled that the provisions of the Sixteenth Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, but simply prohibited the previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress from the beginning from being taken out of the category of indirect taxation to which it inherently belonged and being placed in the category of direct taxation subject to apportionment by a consideration of the sources from which the income was derived…”. The “previous ruling” cited in the Stanton decision was referring to the Brushaber decision. In the Stanton case decision the Supreme Court has ruled that the government always had the power to tax income, which everyone has latched onto without paying attention to the rest of decision that clearly states that “the Sixteenth Amendment conferred no new power of taxation”.

    A few years later the Supreme Court again ruled upon the 16th Amendment’s effect on the federal government’s power of taxation. In Peck & Co. v. Lowe, 247 US 165 (1918), the Supreme Court stated, in part: “The Sixteenth Amendment … does not extend the taxing power to new or excepted subjects …”. In the Peck decision the Supreme Court again is telling everyone that the 16th Amendment did not extend the federal government’s power or jurisdiction.

    The Supreme Court decisions above all inform everyone that no new power of taxation was granted to the federal government by the 16th Amendment. These decisions all inform everyone that the federal government always had the power to tax income from the beginning. Since no new power of taxation was granted to the federal government by the 16th Amendment and the federal government was held to always have had the power to tax income, then the revenue that’s being generated for the federal government from an income tax must come from one of the regulated commerce jurisdictions granted to the federal government by the Constitution – therefore, this revenue must come from foreign commerce, interstate commerce, or Indian commerce. After all, generating income is a commercial activity.

    The Supreme Court ruled exactly that in Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920), where the Court stated the following: “The 16th Amendment must be construed in connection with the taxing clauses of the original Constitution and the effect attributed to them before the Amendment was adopted.”.

    The statutes that make up the Internal Revenue Code must, therefore, be read in mind with the above Supreme Court decisions as well as the following Supreme Court decision:

    “It is elementary law that every statute is to be read in the light of the Constitution. However broad and general its language, it cannot be interpreted as extending beyond those matters which it was within the constitutional power of the legislature to reach.” – McCullough v. Com of Virginia, 172 U.S. 102 (1898).

    Since the revenue being generated by an income tax must come from one of the original commerce jurisdictions granted to the federal government by the Constitution, this leads right back to foreign commerce, interstate commerce, and trade with the Indians.

    These three commerce jurisdictions are listed separately within title 28, “Judiciary and judicial procedure”, chapter 85, “District Courts; Jurisdiction”. Section 1336, now “Surface Transportation Board’s orders”, which was renamed from “Interstate Commerce Commission’s orders” in late 1995, is the interstate commerce jurisdiction. Section 1362 is “Indian tribes”, obviously the trade with the Indians jurisdiction. Section 1340 is “Internal revenue; customs duties”, which is the foreign commerce jurisdiction.

    What the Supreme Court knew when it decided the Brushaber case (listed above) was that the plaintiff, Mr. Frank Brushaber, was a collector/assessor for foreign investors in the Union Pacific Railroad, acting as their fiduciary. So the income tax is within foreign commerce, just as title 28 U.S.C. section 1340 defines above. The federal government can tax its own tax collectors within its Constitutionally granted commerce jurisdictions.

    The jurisdiction of the internal revenue laws is defined at 26 U.S.C. section 2197 (1939 Code) as “within the exterior boundaries of the United States”, which is obviously the opposite of “within the interior boundaries of the United States”, in other words, the U.S. possessions. Once again everything reverts back to the Constitution and the limited jurisdiction of the federal government.

    You must remember that in 1913 when the 16th Amendment was ratified, the Federal Reserve Act was also approved by Congress in December of that year. And the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, which created the “U.S citizen”. The income tax was originally enacted in an Act of Congress approved on August 5, 1861, and it applies to collectors and assessors of “internal duties”, which has now morphed into importing duties within the U.S. possessions. This transformation into importing duties was accomplished by the preplanned Prohibition (Eighteenth Amendment in 1919) and its preplanned repeal (Twenty- first Amendment in 1933) during the bankruptcy proceedings in 1936. It was at that time that the internal revenue laws, along with the industrial alcohol laws, were moved to the U.S. possessions. The forces behind the scenes have been planning the government’s bankruptcy long ago, almost immediately after the ink dried on the Declaration of Independence stating that “all men are created equal”.

    When the government declares that “all taxpayers must file income tax returns”, that is absolutely true, but one must be a “taxpayer”. A contract that is not entered into intelligently, knowingly, and voluntarily is void ab initio (from the beginning) if the full ramifications are not known by all parties to that contract. So Americans can simply abolish Social Security. We can work out how to return everyone’s money (with interest) afterwards.

    The government has another term, that of “U.S. resident” (26 U.S.C. section 865(g)), which includes both of the terms “taxpayer” and “U.S. citizen” within it. This is what the IRS indictments use to deceptively charge a defendant (victim).

    The Fed has now ordained that healthcare will become a federally controlled system. The citizens of the U.S. have absolutely no say in this. If the citizens did have any input, this would be an out-in-the-open debate. But then, if we were free, sovereign Americans, there would be no debate on healthcare, since the government would only be the defensive force that it was originally set up to be. The polls, even those polls that are using convoluted questions to predetermine the results, all show that the citizenry is not behind this healthcare fiasco. What the Fed wants, the Fed gets. Nothing will change until the Social Security Scam and the federal government’s bankruptcy are exposed.


    To see the entire Social Security Scam, see my Blog at or for an in depth examination of everything in this Post.

    No one is going to give you freedom – you must fight for it!

    I have been in the trenches with the Department of Justice/Federal Judiciary tag-team for nearly 9 years now. I currently have a case in the federal court that exposes everything on this Post – even much more, for that matter. Nothing needs to be done but to get exposure on this case. The government and I filed cross motions for summary judgment in mid-June of 2009 and the court is just sitting there. America’s ongoing fight for freedom can be won in the federal court without bloodshed if enough people learn what is going on behind the scenes.

    I have some of the actual court documents on my Blog that can be downloaded. Anything on a court docket is in the public domain. Please help publicize my federal tax case, #08-273 (WDPA). The court document from this case on my Blog evidences how to navigate through the dreaded Internal Revenue Code. (It’s a “code” because no one is supposed to understand it). We are very close to restoring the freedoms that we were originally guaranteed by the Declaration of Independence over 200 years ago.

    My name is Larry L. Stuler. I live at 565 Addison Street, Washington, Pennsylvania, 15301. I am bringing all of this into the open and I want everyone to know about my case.

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    • ForeignPolicyPolice

      Great post, recommended!!

      Everyone start the siege

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      • Bottomline

        We are going back to the 1930’s just because of the fed and higher taxes!

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  • RonPaulIsRight

    Ron Paul is right, the Federal Reserve is literally the most hideous tyrannical fraud out there next to the new deal.

    It is the worst thing ever created just about aside from the industrial war machine…

    And the worst part is, you will need a contingency plan to rid the virus.

    What I mean is you CANNOT just cut it off and wipe out the virus, the virus has infected various infrastructure of each sector. After a virus has incubated to this level it requires surgery.

    Even when you abolish the Fed and surround all the hideous banker politicians of the last 30 years, you need an emergency plan to restore constitutional law and eject the infection.

    You need to come with people holding a plan, of “we’re not just going to eliminate the bank and their minions & get the US government under control, we’re going to eliminate legal tender law and ensure the federal reserve cannot be resurrected”

    What is Legal Tender Law? He talks about it here in his vast essays on the state, and how the state goes too far.

    Little known to Americans is a part of the constitution called the Legal Tender Law. This law makes it illegal for your own congress to coin money, even if they have it right on the books and are able to do so.

    This law essentially makes treason legal. This law of legal tender must be repealed known as your sixteenth amendment, and currency competition must go into full circulation through every district to eliminate the stench of the Fed once and for all.

    Good luck with this, but make sure every person who you reach is right on top of the truth about “Freedom of Currency Act 2009” & bring this law to every gathering so you get your congressman on top of it. Every single member who cast their support for HR 1207 must be targeted and rounded up for “Freedom of Currency” 2009.

    Then we need to abolish the IRS income tax system which is also the Federal Reserve, that got setup several times before the Fed came to power. The IRS must be completely destroyed meaning abolished, then someone needs to split up the CIA since they feed off the virus of the Fed.

    The Audit has shown how treasonous government really is, open other people’s eyes to this reality and get them onto the “Freedom of Currency” act. Open up a huge resort where all these traitorous banker politicians can hang together, throw them up on trial for serious war crimes charges, and empty out Washington D.C. in every direction, then finally institute the “Freedom of Currency” act…

    Congress will have to listen, you outnumber them thousands or millions to one. But remember, the Federal Reserve WILL force multi-billion dollar bailouts of itself before it dies… the sooner the surgery is performed, the better the health for the country & the sooner you will finally see the whole scam come crashing down….”Freedom of Currency” act is your needed magic pill.

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  • longshotlouie

    As Napoleon pointed out:
    “Terrorism, War & Bankruptcy are caused by the privatization of money, issued as a debt and compounded by interest“.
    He cancelled debt and interest in France, hence the Battle of Waterloo.

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  • ReasonTheFedLives

    Reason the Fed Lives is not everyone knows about it yet, so wake up EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU CAN TO THE ULTIMATE SCAM OF GOVERNMENT….THE FEDERAL RESERVE!!!!



    The reason the Fed still lives is your fellow man is not wide awake, awaken them to the truth and march on the Fed and destroy its remains to be spread among the seven seas….

    The ZIONIST (Israeli, christian/german etc) is the only benefactor and one who benefits from the evil scam that is the Fed…..that is why it lives. Make sure it does not.

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    • Bottomline

      Even if we do get rid of the feds! These crime family will still find a loopwhole to keep us in a huge deficit and ask for more bailouts! However I do support the upcoming march to get back out freedoms and liberties from the crooked feds and the Government!

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  • jones

    I don’t know for sure where the ’scam’ is, but something is driving the problems with the economy. It’s obvious for the common citizen, for the educated, for the poor and even for the rich that makes money because of connections and true hand outs.
    Inflation? yes everyone notice that. It is very humiliating to go to any store and find very little produced in the USA, it does not matter that the price is cheap. So in analogy to disaster relief, the cheap goods to solve the inflation should be a temporary relief, the citizens now have to rebuild the economy for long term.
    I don’t think a one world government is needed for that, neither to deal with the currency.
    Though I wonder how a single world currency will do in the economy in terms of fair and better management. And in terms of fair trade rather than free trade.
    If free trade compounds the problem of flooding the market with slave labor and eventually inflation, the central point should be FAIR TRADE.

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  • Siegfried

    Bottomline and fellopatriot
    Government is not the solution it’s the problem.
    The Federal Government (Congress) and the Federal Reserve (Banksters) are intent on driving the country into the ground. The monetary policies they’ve engaged in are simple FRAUD perpetrated on the People. Grant Theft Government, Taxation without Representation!
    On the bright side… I’m sure the recession is almost over, the Depression will start soon lol.
    God Bless

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    • Bottomline

      What Government? It has run a muck with our money feeding the feds and the banksters! I am just as pessimistic as you are!

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  • longshotlouie

    Whereas: Belo exposes its corruption and pro-big government bias by only including the big government candidates,

    Whereas: The criteria (found at given by Belo for inclusion in the January 29 debate make it impossible for any candidate who has not been already entrenched in government to be included in the debate (which would have excluded, among others, candidate George W Bush from this debate),
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    To all fair persons who read this:
    Please sign the petition

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    • Bottomline

      I’ve signed the petition!

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  • Bottomline

    Thank Dr. Paul for your knowledge on who’s to blame on our rising deficits! & your ideas on how to fix it! The Government and the Feds played a huge role in getting us into this economic mess! Here goes Obama’s cronies stealing our money from us to make the bankers at Wall Street more welathy! I bet almost none of them had to work in a day in their life unlike the rest of us! Money is earned doing hard and honest work! Not by being lazy and financially illiterate!

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  • felloPatriot

    I could say loads concerning the scam the Federal Reserve has enslaved the American people with, created with lies, down right ROBBERY, and deception….but I have searched high & low and cant find a thing as to THE CURRENT STATUS of HR1207 or S604 as of today January 16, 2010 ????? SURLY this bill has passed the House, etc ? AND I DONT GET IT….it is obvious that our current banking system was created by lies, pushing the F.R. Act through Congress deceptively, HISTORY HAS PROVEN this sort of “PRIVATE Banking System” does NOTHING but cause depressions, and debt slavery…..WHY IS SUCH an ABOMINATION upon the world & OUR Great Nation ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN POWER? which I’d have to guess just about the entire population of THE WORLD knows by now! BUT for reasons which are TOTALLY UNEXPLAINABLE there has been NO RECOURSE as to the legitimacy of such an INSTITUTION created under such DECEPTIVE means? WHAT is the result of the passing of S604??? WHEN IS THE AUDIT of this CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION? WHEN ARE WE THE PEOPLE CLOSING The FED ??????? IT IS OBVIOUS THIS would ELIMINATE THE MANY MANY WARS, POVERTY, AND CONTINUOUS PROBLEMS our WORLD IS FACING TODAY AND also in OUR PAST!!!!!!!SICKENED BY THE MONOPOLY SHELL GAME! TIRED OF HAILING CAESAR! WE MUST TAKE BACK THE POWER TO ISSUE OUR OWN MONEY !!! BLESS YOU Dr. RON PAUL ! VIVA LA CONSTITUTION REVOLUTION!!

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