9 responses to “How Ron Paul Crushed Romney & Palin At CPAC – And What’s Next”

  1. James

    Actually Ernie…a Republic is usually defined as a set of rules that controls the government along with the representation.
    Democracy is rule by majority…meaning if knuckleheads say they want your house because it’s not fair you make that much…30 people agree to your 29 that do not…you lose your house.

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  2. Ernie

    To moron forest,

    The problem with people with a small amount of knowledge is they are not merely misinformed but dangerous. Undoubtedly the information presented here will fall on deaf ears for whom it is intended, but who knows, maybe some will listen and learn.

    The republic / democracy debate goes back many years so I doubt my input will change it much. First let start with dictionary definitions. To wit:

    democracy – 1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

    republic – a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosendirectly or indirectly by them.

    These don’t seem very helpful since it is difficult to see a clear difference. The reason for that is the foundation of America is neither. The correct terminlogy is representative constitutional republic. When looking closely at this, the structural form of the u. S. government is a democratic republic, in that the “people” elect representatives to vote in their stead at meetings of the Congress. However, if it was left at that there would be no limit to what the people could demand nor what the representatives could enact. That is not the case in this nation. We are not suppose to have mob (majority) rule. That results in the most despotic form of government known to man. The limiting factor is suppose to be the powers granted to the Federal Government by the U. S. Constitution, which was created by the States. The Constitution lays out specific and limited powers and that is all the power that the Congress, the President, the Judiciary and any beauracracy they create has, period. It is clear that all of the branches of the Federal Government have far exceeded those specific powers. And that is what those of us who understand the way things are suppose to be are so damned mad about. This is not a Republican / Democrat issue, a Right / Left issue or any other such thing. It is a freedom / tyranny issue.

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    1. AK Davis

      Guys, I love the enthusiasm from all sides, but all of this trivial bickering is pointless and more counter-productive than anything. Be mindful that people who are not already familiar with Ron Paul, his platform, and the platform of Constitutionally minded Libertarians WILL be on this site, looking for information, and trying to educate themselves. If their first impression is that of a bunch of self-proclaimed experts who can’t even decide if we’re in a democracy, a Democracy, or a republic, how unified and “squared away” do we look?

      We should all be working to focus on the points we agree on as supporters of Ron Paul, and specifically, those points which matter to ALL Americans. We should be working to organize with purpose, and rally citizens locally.

      With so much wrong with the USA, do we really need to debate semantics like this? It’s just silly. Thanks for listening/reading.

      -AK

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  3. Dave

    To “Forest” – You do realize that we aren’t a Democracy, right? The USA is a Republic.

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    1. Forest

      To “Dave” – Yes I am fully aware the United States is a Republic. However do you know the difference between a ‘Democracy’ and a ‘democracy’? You put the capital letter in there to assuage your needs to issue that oh-so-trite and overused correction.

      My use is intended to be representative of a ruling system in which the government derives its power from the people and is accountable to them for the use of that power. Isn’t that kind of what a Republic is? Thought so.

      Keep on ignoring the rest of my prior statement however… Good to see you too are on the ‘i have my blinders tightly on’ bus.

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  4. stevelucky

    I’ve been saying that very thing. I’m sick of voting AGAINST somebody. If everybody decided to actually vote FOR the candidate that they felt would do the best job, we would be in an entirely different place.

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  5. Ray Sells

    I wanted Ron for 2008, now I might get him for 2012, lets all talk about what Paul believes, I feel and hope that he wants to get back to the constitution and bill of rights. Lets give him our support. I have not had anyone to vote for since Richard Nixon in 1971, Because I have been voting aganist someone. It’s time …that we get this country back where we should be. With the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as our rule and guide.

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    1. Forest

      Let me get this straight… You haven’t positively participated in a democracy since 1971 because you haven’t had anyone to vote ‘for’? And the last time you voted ‘for’ someone it was Richard Nixon – he who was one of the biggest black eyes in presidential history? Good god, maybe you don’t deserve to vote.

      Other reason I say that is… Have you not noticed that Ron Paul has tried to run for president a few other times? You didn’t feel like voting for him then?

      God this democracy is screwed, the moRons are coming, the moRons are coming!

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      1. longshotlouie

        Thank you for donating your valuable time to save us.

        It is good to see that you are ‘highly motivated’.

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        Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

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