Channel: Fox Business
Date: 03/21/2010
Transcript
Stuart Varney: Let’s bring in Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul, joining us from Washington. Congressman, always a pleasure to have you with us.
Ron Paul: Thank you.
Stuart Varney: I know you oppose this deal, this healthcare reform bill. We’re assuming that it is going to pass, by all the vote count looks like it is there. Could you tell us what is your biggest single objection to this healthcare bill?
Ron Paul: Well, there’s too many. It is just wrong policy, it’s bad economic policy, it’s bad moral policy, it’s bad constitutional law. But the process is just outrageous. I mean we’re voting on a rule and we’re gonna pass a bill and then the bill will be doctored up a little bit after it. But this idea of an executive order amending the bill, just is such an outrage.
I mean, the process on the floor is such an outrage; at least they are talking about the outrage. But to think that we’ve gotten to the point where we allow our President just to write an executive order, it’s the law of the land. There’s nothing conceivable about that being constitutional.
Stuart Varney: You mentioned some moral problems that you have with this. You see, you talked about the legal problems, political problems, financial problems, all the rest of it. Okay, spell out the moral problem that you have with healthcare reform.
Ron Paul: Well, we’ve been involved in medical care for more than 50 years, which I object to because it’s created this monster: managed care. But all these interventions by the Republicans and Democrats is based on the assumption that people have a right to medical care. And you don’t have a right to medical care.
You have a right to your life, you have a right to your liberty, and you have a right to take care of yourself. But any way, any time a government tries to give you a service or something of substance, they have to steal it from somebody else. So, the whole process is immoral because it is based on government theft. That’s why they’re hiring 16,000 more new IRS agents, so because they have to steal more money.
Stuart Varney: Okay, when we passed it today and I believe it will pass, looks like the votes are there, what does it take to repeal it or roll it back? Surely, it would take 60 Senate Republican votes, a Republican in the White House and a very significant Republican majority in the House. And that sir, looks like an awful long way off.
Ron Paul: Now, the bankruptcy of this country is gonna repeal it because we march onward with whether it’s the endless spending overseas, or the endless spending on welfare, no concern about the deficit. The national debt is going up $2 trillion this year and nobody takes any concern. They don’t realize how serious this is. They’re oblivious to the seriousness of our economic crisis.
We’re not getting out of this crisis, we’re just on the verge of getting in to a much deeper one. And this will precipitate that, and so it will be the bankruptcy of the country and it will be defined by the destruction of the dollar, and government won’t be able to pay any anything out. This is why the people are so upset. It’s because even the liberals realize the government can’t deliver the goods anymore.
Stuart Varney: We talked about this before. And I’ve asked your time horizon on this economic catastrophe, the point at which the markets bring us all up short and stop this spending and debt accumulation. Your time frame last time we talked was over the horizon. It was 2 or 3 years away. Have you brought it up closer because of healthcare reform passage?
Ron Paul: Well, tonight when this passes it will be a major step closer to it. But the events are predictable that are coming. Just like the financial crisis was predictable, but nobody knew that was in September 2008 that that was going to hit us or that the NASDAQ bubble was going to crash in March of 2000.
We don’t know those days but we do know events will come and we have embarked on a course that is unsustainable. You cannot spend this kind of money, borrow this money and create new credit to finance this debt. It will end, it will end badly and it will hurt the people that… many people are very seriously trying to help the people who are suffering and help with medical care. But they’re doing it exactly the wrong thing. Medical care will get worse and this country will go into bankruptcy.
Stuart Varney: The executive order which the President will issue on the subject of abortion, that’s not – is it unconstitutional in some way? Can that be repealed and rejected?
Ron Paul: No, not in today’s circumstances. They’ve been doing this, you know, “stroke of the pen, law of the land, kinda cool”. They’ve been doing it for a long, long time. But you know this whole idea and argument over abortion is not in reality a sincere argument. It’s sincere but it doesn’t accomplish anything. The Hyde amendment doesn’t accomplish anything because we would deny funds going to pregnancy centers and say don’t use any money for abortion.
But all funds are fungible, so this idea that we say don’t use any money. [...] money pours in the hospitals and the clinics. If they do, they just shift it around. This idea of fungibility is so clear that this whole argument on the abortion issue is really not touching the right point and that is, why is the government involve in delivering healthcare, why is the government involve in pretending that this is a viable way of delivering anything?
Central economic planning, if anything the 20th century proved, central economic planning fails. Every country in the world today is on the verge of bankruptcy. People brag about other countries having cheaper medical care and all. But every country in the world is technically bankrupt and we’re marching on to a really worldwide economic catastrophe if we’re not careful.
Stuart Varney: So, another dark day for America. Congressman Ron Paul, telling it how he sees it. We appreciate you being with us again, sir. Good to have you.
Ron Paul: Thank you.
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Mary Hath Spokane
April 4, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Permalink | Reply
Nicholas,
Weapons will never ‘protect’ us from those who hate us. If it is their ‘intent’ to hate and destroy us they will. True protection is to be righteous, loving, sharing and kind in all our actions.
World peace, of course, begins with each of us as individuals….forgiving ourselves than others…..loving ourselves than others. This was the message of Christ – the Kingdom is within…it develops from the inner world to the outer world. He also said, “My Kingdom is not of this world.” At his period in history the Roman empire ruled solidly with no individual rights. Christ could not bring his inner hope of individual power and sovereignty to fruit during those dark times. Today with our U.S. Constitution put in place so ingeniously by the founding fathers and mothers as a ‘future’ government we do have the framework and opportunity to ‘create from within’ a magnificent ‘world kingdom’ so hoped for by Christ and our Founding Fathers and Mothers. FUTURE is always malleable. Let us be inspired by their examples and their sacrifices to bring PEACE ON EARTH and GOODWILL AMONG ALL TRIBES.
A Little Child Will Lead Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0&NR=1
Ekkman said:
Sorry to disappoint you Mary but Christ Jesus most definitely did bring inner peace to a point that cannot be comprehended. The Jesus Christ that gave his people an inner peace and power promised he would be with them even until the end of the world. He will not forsake his people, those looking to him for help. I think of John Huss again, The Roman Catholic Church was burning him on the stake and he was singing praises to the Lord Jesus Christ. Incredible! I have been through some tough time and a little spooky but nothing like Huss went through. I never know what tomorrow holds BUT I know who holds tomorrow. He is a totally awesome God!
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Machine (said on)
April 5, 2010 at 6:01 pm
“I am happy for you. You have a faith that is meaningful and fullfilling. So do I and I always take time to be thankful for that which spiritually lifts and guides me.
“I don’t agree that our government is responsable for individual choices…such as placing laws against abortion and homosexuality. Such lifestyles and actions are between God and that person not the government.”
Ekkman said:
Machine, I am glad that you are happy for me. My mind keeps going back to Gandhi since you brought him up in another post and your views on abortion and homosexuality. The government is not really against homosexality just as they are not against abortion (baby killing). I have been to some of the homos’ marches and they are getting special rights all the time. I DO NOT see how you could sincerely be happy for me since my beliefs totally disagree with yours. I am NOT happy with your beliefs nor could I pretend that I am. I told you before that if a person agreees with all religions then he is a non-thinking person. Religion is in total disagreement with each other from humanism to atheism to Confusiciousism to Mohammandism to any other ism. Some of those are made up words but I think you get where I am coming from. I just talked to a Buddahist today and I told her that I don’t know of anywhere that he claimed to be God, he claimed to be a way “show-er” BUT Jesus Christ claimed to be the way and Buddah didn’t show anyone the way to Jesus Christ that I know of, hence he is the showing the “wrong way”. But the lady that I was talking to didn’t seem to care, she grew up with him, so to speak. But a lot of people have come out from under their false “messiahs” or “christs” or whatever name I can give you. Jesus Christ is the name above ever name and at his name EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue will confess that he is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
You are totally in line with the government on this issue, they are seeking to convince us that all are right under their wing and to disagee with them is called hate in their book. Check out my article entitled, “Don’t be a bird brain! Disagreement or Hate? Which is it?”
http://www.ekkcom.net/disagr.htm
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Any other “ism” would then have to include Chritianityism. Which means the philosophy of christianity
Why do I have to agree with you on every point you believe in in order to be happy for you. We are both peaceful and compassionate men. I know in my heart that we both suffer in this world. You are not a threat to me because of what you choose to believe…and how you live. I personaly haven’t read anything that says you are a Fanaticall Christian Fundamentalist plotting to kill in the name of God. Are you??? Your views…my views…may differ some, but really not so much. I am not going to try and convince you that you should choose the path I have chosen. You have already chosen to follow what you believe is the RIGHT WAY for you. If you were to ask me about my faith I would share it with you by spending time with you. At that point if you wanted to know more I would say seek it for yourself, it isn’t up to me to make you see things my way. I chose my path, not by accedent, not by admiration for buddists or monks, priests or poets. I know they are not deified. You certainly have a right to make decisions based on what you believe. Even better is that I know you would still choose to follow Christ (your Lord and saviour) even if the Government told you that you no longer could and threatened to kill you if you continued to practice and preach the word of God. I would do the same. I would give my life (not take anothers). Thank God we live in America!
Now as far as abortion and homosexuality…I have not shared with you where I stand. But I will say that I disagree that homosexuals are “getting special rights”, the only rights they are marching for are the same rights you and I have. The same CIVIL RIGHTS blacks faught for in the ’60s. The right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness! EQUALITY!! That the media makes a tabloid spectical of their fight for these rights, and that certain politicians are cowardly and take the safe platform against their rights…isn’t at all SPECIAL!!! It’s dehumanizing, and underminding to all of us to deny any American that which is stated in our Declaration of Independence.
I will read your artical.
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Mary Hath Spokane (said on)
April 3, 2010 at 3:06 pm
“Ekkman, Thank you for your response. You are so right, over 10 million people died in the Crusades. People died because of their personal belief system. The Peace Pledge is my attempt to carry a worldwide movement which, yes, is simple, yet rational. If everyone ‘agrees’ that to murder a human being is wrong than we could simply have lively disagreements over beliefs, interpretations of history etc. without the suffering of human deaths. The U.S. spends over 600 Billion yearly on arms. Why? Simply because defense industries demand it. The ‘illusion’ of terrorists here to kill us….is just that…..an ‘orchestrated illusion’. What we need more than health care bill to benefit greedy drug and insurance companies is an independent investigation of 9/11 to expose the true terrorists….Bushs and Cheney.”
Ekkman said, Regarding the crusades since the Roman Catholic Church was in control of most of the known world, much of history is hard to determine. Some historians said as high as 65 million were killed. As far as your peace pledge is concerned, mankind is fickle. That is why the Lord Jesus Christ didn’t commit to man.
Yea, I believe that our government was behind the Twin Towers in NY, Oklahoma City tragedy, Ruby Ridge in Idaho, and Waco, Texas slaughter. They were seeing what we would do about it and not much to speak of transpired because of these acts but to take more freedoms from the people.
I think about the Lord Jesus Christ and his words on mankind.
” 24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
“25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.” Because of their sin nature, they were praising him one day and a few days later they were hollering, “Crucify him, crucify him”. Jesus came to die to give us his life within so we would have the power, the desire to do what is right. It is not forced upon us, we choose him and then we submit to him daily to see his will accomplished in our lives.
Turning over a new leaf doesn’t help, we need new life and that life is in the Lord Jesus Christ, not in any religion or religious leader. Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to GOD.
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Machine, It is good that you admitted that you “believe” in God, everyone does. God put it within us to know that there is a God but that doesn’t save anyone. We must see our need for God, that is why the Lord Jesus Christ came to set us free from sin that is within all of us. We MUST be delivered from it to go to be with the Lord when we die. We pass on to another life, heaven or hell, it is our choice based on what we do with the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus told the most religious people of his day that they were of their father, the devil. That is why Jesus Christ said, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” The born again experience is needed since we are all born “dead” to God because of mankind’s first parents, Adam and Eve. The born again experience is NOT reincarnation or anything like that. It is receiving the Lord Jesus Christ into your life then you are born again, born from above. The word of God also says, “But as many as received him (Jesus), to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”
Believing with your heart, life system, is receiving him into your life. He moves in and makes you a new creature in him. He is an awesome God.
Also you mentioned another blog of mine. Yea, I do tell people that if God’s people truly repented and got right with him then we would probably get someone like Ron Paul to get this country back on track. Bringing it back like it was at one time. Someone who is into the constitution since the constitution was based on God’s word. That is one reason why we have scriptures all over the walls of federal buildings in Washington, D.C. As I said before, we have turned our backs on God/Jesus Christ as a nation and now we are suffering in many ways because of it. But we are just as the beginnnings of sorrows. Payday is coming for America now. Crimes have been legalized such as abortion (baby murder), sexual sins such as homosexuality, adultery, fornication, etc. Have you watched any of Gerald Celente’s videos on YouTube? I don’t think he is a Christian but many things he says lines up with the word of God. Things that will probably take place in these last days. He did one called Obamageddon. Check it out!
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I am happy for you. You have a faith that is meaningful and fullfilling. So do I and I always take time to be thankful for that which spiritually lifts and guides me.
I don’t agree that our government is responsable for individual choices…such as placing laws against abortion and homosexuality. Such lifestyles and actions are between God and that person not the government.
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There are many “christs” but only one true “Christ” Jesus. He came to establish a spiritual kingdom comprised of those who have been born of his Spirit. I agree that religion has been the cause of needless suffering and pain. Check if Jesus Christ came to kill or destroy in the bible, he healed, delivered, saved, met needs, etc. But when he comes again, he will come as Judge to those who have rejected him, have lived in evil, sin, depravity, selfishness. All people are religious by nature, whether we are religious about our car(s), wife, kids, job, whatever we live for is our god, our religion. Jesus Christ is associated with religion with most I talk to but he never said he came to give religion but life, the highest and the best life possible. Not a lot that I share with bring that into the picture. Anybody with eyes to see or ears to hear can easily know that there is something super bad with this world and it is not because the Republicans or the Democrats are in power at any given moment. It is getting worse as time goes on just as the word of God said that it would in these last days. It is because of sin, you can call it aberrant behavior, whatever but we know deep down that there is something wrong with us, with society, with this world. We like to think or pretend that only those who talk church stuff or go there on Sundays or Wednesdays usually are the religious folks but why do we think that? I talk to so-called atheists since in reality there are none. They usually admit it verbally by the time we are through talking. We all have a God shaped vacuum and if we don’t let him fill it then we will seek something or someone to fill that emptiness in us. It will never be properly filled until he does it. Atheism means “no God”. I ask all that I debate how could they tell me that there is no God unless they have been everywhere in this universe and looked behind every star and there are trillions of them to see if God was behind one of them. You cannot intellectually tell me that there is no God unless you are all knowing and then you would be God, that is an attribute of his. I can intellectually tell you that there is a God since I know him and communicate with him and many, many other believers do. He is a prayer away from each and everyone of us. If we call out to him in faith and repentance, he will answer. But it must be real, he knows and you know if the words that you speak or genuine of not. In closing, one day soon he is coming back to establish a physical kingdom on planet earth.
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Nicholas,
Weapons will never ‘protect’ us from those who hate us. If it is their ‘intent’ to hate and destroy us they will. True protection is to be righteous, loving, sharing and kind in all our actions.
World peace, of course, begins with each of us as individuals….forgiving ourselves than others…..loving ourselves than others. This was the message of Christ – the Kingdom is within…it develops from the inner world to the outer world. He also said, “My Kingdom is not of this world.” At his period in history the Roman empire ruled solidly with no individual rights. Christ could not bring his inner hope of individual power and sovereignty to fruit during those dark times. Today with our U.S. Constitution put in place so ingeniously by the founding fathers and mothers as a ‘future’ government we do have the framework and opportunity to ‘create from within’ a magnificent ‘world kingdom’ so hoped for by Christ and our Founding Fathers and Mothers. FUTURE is always malleable. Let us be inspired by their examples and their sacrifices to bring PEACE ON EARTH and GOODWILL AMONG ALL TRIBES.
A Little Child Will Lead Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0&NR=1
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Ekkman, Thank you for your response. You are so right, over 10 million people died in the Crusades. People died because of their personal belief system. The Peace Pledge is my attempt to carry a worldwide movement which, yes, is simple, yet rational. If everyone ‘agrees’ that to murder a human being is wrong than we could simply have lively disagreements over beliefs, interpretations of history etc. without the suffering of human deaths. The U.S. spends over 600 Billion yearly on arms. Why? Simply because defense industries demand it. The ‘illusion’ of terrorists here to kill us….is just that…..an ‘orchestrated illusion’. What we need more than health care bill to benefit greedy drug and insurance companies is an independent investigation of 9/11 to expose the true terrorists….Bushs and Cheney.
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Terrorrism is an “illusion?”
Really?
The terrorrist pukes TELL US THEY WANT US BLOWN INTO THE SEA !
The free west I’m talking about…along with Isreal.
I’m Canadian but now I understand why your country is a mess with your marxists in charge. Folks like you voting in an administration such as you have.
Not sure what planet you live on but it’s different than mine.
No I’m not a war monger but I do prefer we have the “BEST WEAPONS” IN ORDER TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
Simply common sense.
I love Americans as a whole by the way.
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I CANNOT go to the posts that I am getting e-mails about. They are not at the link when I click on them. Oh well! I want to answer certain ones but I CAN’T NOW.
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“Ryan
April 1, 2010 at 4:28 am | Permalink | Reply
I would much rather have an effective health care system than to have to hope that vitamins can “miraculously” cure cancer.’
Ryan, I am glad that there are many, many to have studied the issue and they plainly see that cancer is a vitamin deficiency problem. Did you even check out the pages that I asked you to read? My mother just died of cancer and she did the chemo junk and that’s what it is junk. The cancer industry is a big money making scheme and it won’t be cured in America. There is cancer that is being cured in America, the kind that basically goes away on its own. Chemo is very deadly, the doctors are basically killing you faster with chemo. My sister has cancer now and she is going the vitamin way and the doctors who told her she would be dead in a matter of weeks are very surprised that she is still alive and kicking. She is in stage 4 when she decided to go the vitamin way, they can’t believe that she doesn’t have yellow skin and the like now. Even though there are many Americans going to Mexico, Russia and other places and getting cured of cancer with “Vitamin B17″ and other vitamins. So many are getting cancer in America because of what we eat, most of our food is junk, filled with chemicals, canola oil, soy and the like. I can see very easily that you have not studied the issue, you run with what you hear in this area, cancer. Have you ever heard of Scurvy, it killed hundreds of thousands before they finally admitted that it was a vitamin deficiency disease. When the sailors started taking that “miraculous” vitamnn C then Scurvy disappeared. The same scenario woutld be with cancer when they see that it is a vitamin deficency disease. Ryan, please do a little study before you cut my words off. Thanks!
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Well discused points.
Until others, like yourself, realize that all Pharmaceutical Companies are interested in is profit…And as long as they keep us in the trows of symptom medicine and band-aid treatments, we will never hear the FDA abmit what really works (as in a cure). Like many aspects of our bueracratic government the corporate medical feild is guilty of extortion.
So many of our diseases and ailments stem from, ignorance, poor diet, lack of exercise and, physical and mental stress. That isn’t to say that peoples genetics don’t play a role, however many people stay health by eating proper diets, getting some form of exercise and establishing a regular time for themselves to unwind, relax, and rest.
I also like how you mention the poor quality of our foods, I do agree….Chemicals, Hormones, pestacides, etc. contaminate our food, soil and water table. Which is why I have started to be more self suficiant where and when possable,i.e., organic farming, reducing houshold chemicals, planting vegitation native to the area, recycleing and reusing…No I don’t drive a Prius, but I do ride my bike for short trips to the store and for leasure fun. I don’t consider myself smug and to be better than anyone else…I am just trying to what is best for me and if it inspires others to particapate than great.
Didn’t mean to veer from the topic of cancer. Guess my point is about lifestyle, knowledge and personal choices.
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Machine, I couldn’t agree more. I commend your lifestyle choices and have shared them for the last 55 years. My 9 brothers and sisters and I were raised in a holistic healthy home. My experience is similar to theirs, our children and our grandchildren: I’ve never had a flu shot and I don’t get the flu (nor colds, strep, soar throats, etc.). I don’t even get headaches. I’ve never taken antibiotics nor do I need to. I’ve never had a tetanus shot nor suffered from this bacterial disease (despite countless cuts and scraps on the farm). We don’t suffer from high blood pressure, cholesterol, obesity, diabetes, cancer or any cardio-vascular anomalies. I did take my wife to the hospital for the delivery of our three kids and paid cash for each (why should someone else pay for OUR decision to have children?). Our primary “medical” expense is dental. I do not have medical insurance, nor will I ever. I do not believe in many of the medical industry’s treatments, nor do I believe that I should pay for the poor health choices of others. I believe this is my right. Shame of the Dems for attempting to violate our Constitutional Rights.
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Mary Hath Spokane
April 1, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Permalink | Reply
EASTER/PASSOVER MESSAGE
from Mary Hath Spokane
(MAW) Mother Against War
(Original letter sent to President Obama and several members of Congress)
This Easter Sunday as Christian Americans celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ I would like everyone to remember His words: “Put your sword back into its place; for all who take up the sword will perish by the sword.” [Matt. 26:52] Yet, since the Crusades so called Christians have killed in Jesus’ Name. I know how he suffers from our misunderstanding of his exemplary life. And I ask my Jewish Americans to remember words to Noah and Moses, “Thou shall not kill”…
Mary Hath Spokane talks about “Easter” which is a pagan holiday that the Roman Catholic Church gave the “Christians” , so to speak. Easter has nothing to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. Easter is a celebration of the “goddess” Isthar pronounced Easter, which was the so-called goddess of fertility. That is the main reason why so many “Christian” churches have Easter egg hunts and bunny rabbits. They are celebrating the ‘goddess of fertility”. Chickens and rabbits are very fertile creatures. The God of the bible does want us to protect innocent life like babies in the womb or other forms of innocent life. Check my page on Easter,
http://www.ekkcom.net/easter.htm
The Roman Catholic Church which gave the “Christians” the holiday Easter KILLED millions of believers and non believers in the Dark Ages. And they are still killing Christians overseas when they can get by with it.
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Amen.
I do believe in God, though I am not a Christian …
From what I know, God doesn’t want for us to kill in his name. It is not for us to decide between “us and them” (us being Christians, them being everyone else). We are all Gods children, none of us have the right to snuff out the life of another. To do so for any reason is a loss of humainty. And it is complete hypocracy to celebrate “fertility” while we bomb, rape, extort, etc., each other. And it is complete blasphimy to do it in the name of God. Yes we will be judged.
If in fact we (man) do want peace and humanity for all man kind, than we must not pilage, and murder. We cannot value “things” above God. Nothing is above God. And when we kill any of his children (meaning man) we are putting ourselves above God. Why? because God created us and breathed life into us; life is not for us to destroy.
Ekkman I agree with you when you stated in another of your bloggs, how it does not matter who is in office at any given time: Republican, Democrate… There is something wrong in the world, (paraphrased).
I’ll go further…
Human nature is not perfect and neither is the world; be it by politics, earthquakes, war, tsunami, saddness, frustration etc., man suffers, its the First Noble Truth. Yes there are positive things in life, which we preceve as the opposite of suffering,i.e. ease, comfort, happiness…However life in its totality is imperfect…incomplete, because the world we live in is subject to impermanence.
Many feel Ron Paul will make everything better…Just as many support Obama and believe he is right. And many of these supporters (be they for Ron Paul, Obama, or Jessie Ventura for that matter) are Christians. [Thats not ment as a flaw.] My point is that we (man) suffer because we attach ourselves to transient things; sometimes placing to much stock…allowing our egos to lead us…often reacting impulsively ( a big cause for suffering), feeling entitled, and basing human status on economis. And yes…not having a personal spiritual faith also causes suffering. Consider those who are wealthy in wordly possession yet so offten are not happy spiritually. Then look at those who are financhally poor but have a strong spiritual faith…they are more free and spiritually happy than those without a spiritual faith yet who are rich in worldly possessions . Sure everybody wants to have a better economic status, improve their surroundings, afford nice things, eat a fancy stake dinner, drink an expensive bottle of wine. But without realizing that there is a great difference between “need and want”, that without spiritual faith, one will never satisfy their thirst. That to be too far left or too far right only brings with it its own set of challenges, social and personal sufferings.
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Reply to: MAW Mary Hath Spokan
What would be your position be if Moslems invaded 1/3 of Eastern United States and threatened to take over the rest of it within the next 50 years? As you wrote in the case of the Crusades, you would quote Matt 26:52? 1/3 of the Byzantine Roman Empire was invaded and occupied by the Moslems; this is why the Crusades were launched. Your position is to allow the Moslem to continue their invasion? In fact, the USA is officially an occupied country – legally stamped by the ObamaHealthCare legislation. The passage of ObamaHealthCare is the dissolution or cessation of the constitutional United States of America. What most Americans haven’t noticed is that the ObamaHealthCare implementation is a strategic qualitative drop that cannot be repealed or repaired through policy or ‘protests’. Under such conditions, every American citizen and its leaders are no longer constitutionally American, and should be considered on the same level as the ‘illegal aliens’ within an International setting. The simple protests are nothing more than rebellion against the new State power and authority.
Quoting “Thou shalt not kill’ – is another statement without context, which if applied as it is today in the USA by the Judeo-Christians and their allies – it would have destroyed the people that Moses led.
The wars that the unconstitutional USA is leading around the world is part of a continuing pattern – during the past 60 years there’s been a continuous war against the third world and Latin America, and now, focus is placed on the Middle East. This is to help barricade Russia and manipulate Asia including China.
Mary – please don’t oversimplify – the results are suicidal.
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EASTER/PASSOVER MESSAGE
from Mary Hath Spokane
(MAW) Mother Against War
(Original letter sent to President Obama and several members of Congress)
This Easter Sunday as Christian Americans celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ I would like everyone to remember His words: “Put your sword back into its place; for all who take up the sword will perish by the sword.” [Matt. 26:52] Yet, since the Crusades so called Christians have killed in Jesus’ Name. I know how he suffers from our misunderstanding of his exemplary life. And I ask my Jewish Americans to remember words to Noah and Moses, “Thou shall not kill”.
Yes, Jesus did get mad and yelled at people rudely and even threw a few things around… but HE NEVER KILLED ANYONE!
Shame on our federal government which is responsible for the deaths of over one million 700 thousand Iraq and Afghanistan civilians!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=696cZHh_nbE
The United States Congress and our new President continue to increase military fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria for elitist profits. These elected officials are supposed to be OUR representatives; but, they instead follow orders from the elitist bankers and the military/industrial complex.
I wish my federal government restored to the people….the true people of America who believe as Jesus and Moses believed… in the sanctity of the individual human being, especially in their “Right to Life”.
Every Congress person and Senator, who called for the invasions of sovereign countries and the resultant murders and the increase of military budgets, should be immediately impeached! These people DO NOT REPRESENT the true believers in Jesus Christ and Moses. They do not represent the true moralists of this country.
Mary Hath Spokane, MAW (Mother Against War)
Author of the United Nations Peace Pledge:
“We are Peace Prophets.
We will never kill another brother or sister Human Being.
We believe only the Creator of Human Life
has the right to end that Life.”
http://www.unitednationspeacepledge.com/
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Since there are some who seem to think I am wrong but I am not sure in what areas they are disagreeing with me unless they choose to tell me at some point and time. Anyway. what is your opinions on these statements below?
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,…” (Taken from the Declaration of Independence- July 4, 1776)
The God of the bible is the one and only God they were talking about.
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So does that mean God is a hypocrite? Yes the Declaration of Independence did grant us seperation from the King…But unless you were white and a man you were not considered as equal. Even those who penned our Constitution and Bill of Rights were slave owners and in the slave trade. As well wrote laws to keep blacks and Indians down trodden in order to keep control…Is that what the Bible is? a resource to control (Govern) man kind, especial those who are not white, male, and Quaker????
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But when the founding fathers wrote that in the DOI black people were slaves and women did not have the right to vote. The Constitution had to be amended to end slavery and then again to give women the right to vote, which makes it a living document. When the founding fathers said all men are created equal, they were talking about all white, land owning males. Yes, they believed in religions in those days too, but science has solved the mysteries of the Earth and the universe and disease, while religions have done not one thing. People have always killed one another over religion, like the terrorists are doing now.
People made up gods when humans first began to exist to deal with death and illness and floods, all the things they didn’t understand and had no control over, and the stories were passed down. Each culture made up their versions of the gods, that’s why there are so many different religions. The problem is almost 90 percent of people in this country don’t go to college so they don’t get a chance to learn the sciences and humanities and find out how things are really created and how religion was created. We teach our children our old religions, we don’t educate them, so they don’t have the facts they need to figure out what is real and what isn’t. Jesus didn’t speak English and he wasn’t white. You know that, right?
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Ryan, Cancer is a vitamin deficiency disease. It is being cured in many parts of the world by taking the right vitamins. The main seed worth eating to keep cancer away is apricot seeds, they are packed with vitamin b17 which kills cancer cells. There is a book that you can get online called “World Without Cancer
by G. Edward Griffin which would definitely be worth your time in reading. It is too much of a money making scheme to NOT cure cancer in America. I put in one page from the book on my web site at http://www.ekkcom.net/cancer03.htm That should get you hungry enough to want to read the whole book. Many people have been cured by the vitamin process dealing with cancer. Check out a few testimonies on this page, http://www.realityzone.com/worwitcan.html
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I would much rather have an effective health care system than to have to hope that vitamins can “miraculously” cure cancer.
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I agree with Ron Paul when he says, “Obamacare will be repealed by a national bankruptcy.”, but one thing left out of the discussion is, if we are bankrupt how will we recover a decent health care system, and how many of us will die in the recovery process? Will we all be eating moldy bread for infections? Herbal remedies for cancer? Or, is there any hope for a rapid recovery of an affordable health care system?
I think it will be very difficult at best. IMO, It is imperative that we repeal Obamacare at the soonest possible opurtunity to salvage any hope. We need a 2/3 majority in congress and a president like Ron Paul willing to sign the repeal. That means we need to clean house in the congress in 2010, and elect Ron Paul in 2012. If we don’t succeed it’s a very bleek future indeed.
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I forgot to mention that the constitution was “founded” on the bible, the word of God. All of our rights, freedoms come from the hand of God. The federal buildings all over Washington have scriptures on them. NOW they are trying to get rid of a lot of them by scratching them off, covering them up, hiding them, etc.
Emblazoned over the Speaker of the House in the US Capitol are the words “In God We Trust.”
The Supreme Court building built in the 1930′s has carvings of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
God is mentioned in stone all over Washington D.C., on its monuments and buildings…
Oaths in courtrooms have invoked God from the beginning.
The founding fathers often quoted the Bible in their writings.
Every president that has given an inaugural address has mentioned God in that speech.
Prayers have been said at the swearing in of each president.
Each president was sworn in on the Bible, saying the words, “So help me God.”
Our national anthem mentions God.
The liberty bell has a Bible verse engraved on it.
The original constitution of all 50 states mentions God.
Chaplains have been in the public payroll from the very beginning.
Our nations birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence, mentions God four times.
The Bible was used as a textbook in the schools.”
Just a few things to mention taken from another page…
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Machine, I still never got an answer to my questions. What comments in the past are you disagreeing with me on? I would like to know because NOW you on Ghandi. For Ghandi or anyone else to respect ALL religions he would have to be a non-thinking person. Using your mind would easily show you that religions contradict each other. NO ONE can be for all religions and still believe in truth. We are going from one subject to another and I still WANT TO KNOW what is the problems you are having with me so we can intelligently talk about them.
Based on your last comments, most people think that Jesus was a wise man and the like but that doesn’t save anyone. But really he wasn’t a wise man unless you believe what he said, he claimed to be God in human flesh, the ONLY way to God, he claimed to be life, love. He claimed he was going to die for mankind and all who receive him into their lives will become new creatures, etc. If none of these comments are true, then he IS NOT A WISE MAN but a LIAR and DECEIVER. There is no way around it. He didn’t seek to leave a back door so all the “unbelievers” can sneak in, so to speak. Jesus Christ is God in human flesh and he came to set men free from sin, he died to free us not to make us intellectually smarter, cuter or whatever. He came to free us from sin so we would NOT go to hell.
I NEVER SAID that I “dismissed” your comments. I am not a Ghandi follower as I was showing you, I am a Christ follower and I can only be one of those as I walk in his Spirit, submitting to him and resisting the devil and then I walk in victory.
I also agee that “many of us” could “use our beliefs as weapons…” Could you show me in my comments where I have done that?
You went on to say that “there is confusion, debate and argument with the christian practice itself…” You just told me that Ghandi respeccts ALL religions but NOW you are telling me that you DO NOT RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS since they are fighting within themselves. You don’t seem to be obeying or following the one whom you believe in. FIRST you named one Christian religion within the three religions that you named, that being the Baptist, they do believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and salvation by faith in his blood. The other two that you named are not Christian, they have a “Jesus” like Ghandi did but having a “Jesus” and have the biblical one is two totally different things.
Oh well, all I am trying to figure out at the moment is what are you disagreeing with on my past posts? That should be an easy question to answer. Thanks!
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I did not claim to be a “follower” of Gandhi. At least not in any deified manor. I think of Jesus and Gandhi in the same way…Both were men who walked the earth as teachers and tried to spread peace love and compassion amongst the restless. They both spoke out against oppresion and caste. Both could be, and were, at times angry, but never used violence. Both men were persecuted and murdered for their plights, and both left a legacy in their passing. Gahndi often spread the word of Jesus, infact he read and studied the bible. I don’t think God would condem Gahndi to eternal damnation for not claiming Christ as his loard and saviour. If he would than I could never believe in and worship such a God. I think more that Jesus would praise him as a man who actually understood fellowship and brotherhood, that violence towards your enemy, is violence towards your brother and proves nothing good, and in his time tried to teach that to others without restrictions to which religion is the right one… Gahndi was a Hindu but never dismissed or underminded any other religion, because he understood ALL of them share a very common good thread. That having a faith is better than not, as long as you don’t capitalize on it by the misfortune of others. And yet ALL religions have been misinterpreted, abused, and used to justify man’s atrocities in the name of God…Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus Islamics, etc., all of them. Which is why Jesus and Gahndi were murdered.
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Machine wrote me back and I cannot find it on this blog site even though the e-mail told me to come here. Anyway, he was answering my comments that I made before this one. It came in an e-mail and I read it and read it and once again I do not know where he is coming from. Some one please tell me what he is talking about so I can see where he is coming from. I wasn’ t talking about killing, rape and the like yet the e-mail that he sent me below my comment talks about all those things like I am for them.
Ekkman
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Machine, I guess that I am a little dense but I missed your point. Maybe you can share it with me in different words so I can follow you better since I am not sure what you are saying. The constitution, bill of rights, etc were all based on the bible. We were founded on Christianity. We all need Jesus Christ, he is not a white man, so to speak. He came as a Jew and he died to set all mankind free. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ” Jesus Christ died for all not just a select few. God is a Spirit and that isn’t white, black, red, yellow, whatever. In reality, there is only one race- “the human race”. I hope you get over your prejudice mindset. I was raised prejudice too but the Lord delivered me from that junk long time ago. When Ronald Reagan was President, he made it ultra plain that all of our laws were based on the Ten Commandments but now that we are falling apart as a nation, they are only suggestions and bad ones to the politically correct. We have turned our backs on the God who made this country the greatest nation in the world and we are going downhill fast, super fast. The Lord Jesus Christ is our only hope.
Here is what he sent me vis e-mail in answer to my blog.
“Author: Machine
“Comment:
“Absolutly! Which is why I shared my perspective;based on history books, many books, as well as some extended world travel resulting in residing in other countries and the many friendships that came from it.
When WHEN will we learn that war begot war begot…War is an utter loss of humanity. Are you willing to kill, (or as you stated…RAPE and MURDER)? War is the hostle and violent take over by one group over another, and its means to an end is through acts of evil…than being the end result is evil it will always lead to more evil; this is what history has taught us. The fact that I am here (born) does not mean staying the course of a history that may or may not have brought me here; just as a child born from rape dosen’t mean he must become a rapist. My survival dosen’t have to be by my shedding the blood of another or my own. My excistence dosen’t mean domination over anyother race or culture. White man isn’t loosing becuse of me or those who protest a continuence of destruction through murder and rape…Everyone loses when we take rather than give. No I don’t feel directly responsable for the atrocities of our past, and yes I am very aware of the few today who are extreme fundamentalist, they exist in EVERY culture and every race and EVERY religion, however killing off a race or proving dominance over another culture doesn’t improve the world…It weakens it, causing greater problems, which economics is the least…War begot war…As Gandhi once stated, “…an eye for an eye and soon the whole world is blind.”
Machine doesn’t seem to care what Jesus Christ (God in human flesh) said but he is into Gandhi??? Oh well! Anyway, if anyone can give me insight into his message to me, it would be super appreciated. I don’t know where he is coming from, it is like he thinks I am for war, killing and the white man taking over the world and none of those statements are true. I agree with most everythng that Ron Paul says and he is for getting our people out of the unconstitutional wars and the like. I like the solution that Jesus gave a lot better than Ghandi’s answer. The Lord Jesus Christ said, “Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
“But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
“And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
“And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
“Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
“That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.”
I have been pounded on by people at the bars since I witnessed there for years and at false religious systems they would cuss me out, seek to run over me with their cars, try to lay me out, etc. but I keep sharing the love of God with them not wanting to hurt them back. I just want to see them come into the life of God. He is totally incredible in every way.
As far as in intelligence and incredible statements, Jesus Christ blows Ghandi away each and every time. Jesus Christ is our answer and hope not Ghandi.
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Sorry, the reply you received was ment for a comment by Gander
However, I too know scripture…that I choose to quote Gahndi isn’t to be of anything less. That you feel Christ “blows” Gahndi away and is (your) answer…Good for you. I myself think of Gahndi not as “a saviour” just a man who had a perspective…Respected all religions and chose his based on his culture and what he felt right in his heart. I do not see any harm in trying to exercise some of the things he tried to teach by example i.e nonviolence, civil disobedience. Gahndi often spoke eloquently about christ and his teachings…So why are you so quick to dismiss my comments as if they are something less. Granted I know you were confused as to what I was commenting on in the first place, but still I wonder as to how sincer you are.
Saddly enough many of us use our “beliefs” as weapons when every religion out there begain as a means of love and brotherhood. Oddly enough there is confusion, debate and argument within the christian practice itself…Baptist beleave this, Jehovas beleave that, and Catholics have there philosophy, etc.
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Just about every person running for president of the United States of America claimed to be Christian, every one that I can remember whether he was or not. America was founded on Christianity. Most of our state constitutions talk about being founded on God/Jesus Christ. Read a few of them. Separation of church and state has nothing to do with God. A church is not to control a nation like the Roman Catholic Church did for over a thousand years and killed anyone who would not submit to their authority. Our rights are given to us by our CREATOR.
“Separation of church and state” is a common metaphor that is well recognized. Equally well recognized is the metaphorical meaning of the church staying out of the state’s business and the state staying out of the church’s business. Because of the very common usage of the “separation of church and state phrase,” most people incorrectly think the phrase is in the constitution. The phrase “wall of separation between the church and the state” was originally coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802. His purpose in this letter was to assuage the fears of the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists, and so he told them that this wall had been erected to protect them. The metaphor was used exclusively to keep the state out of the church’s business, not to keep the church out of the state’s business. ”
The “church” being “God’s people” will run this country better than any others if they are open and sensitive to the Spirit of God, they will operate in wisdom and love as Jesus Christ did.
PATRICK HENRY: [American Revolutionary leader, and member of the Continental Congress] -
“IT CANNOT BE EMPHASIZED TOO STRONGLY OR TOO OFTEN THAT THIS GREAT NATION WAS FOUNDED, NOT BY RELIGIONISTS, BUT BY CHRISTIANS, NOT ON RELIGIONS, BUT ON THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. FOR THIS VERY REASON PEOPLES OF OTHER FAITHS HAVE BEEN AFFORDED ASYLUM, PROSPERITY, AND FREEDOM OF WORSHIP HERE.”
Because we were founded on the Christian God, we allow others into this country. Try to openly proclaim Jesus Christ as the only answer to man’s problems in most parts of the world that are not Christian and see what happens. Go to Iraq or Iran, try China or Russia, N. Korea and many other
nations. We have the freedom of religion because of Christianity not in spite of it. I can go deeper into your “separation of church and state” later on if this doesn’t satisfy your arguments.
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Machine, I guess that I am a little dense but I missed your point. Maybe you can share it with me in different words so I can follow you better since I am not sure what you are saying. The constitution, bill of rights, etc were all based on the bible. We were founded on Christianity. We all need Jesus Christ, he is not a white man, so to speak. He came as a Jew and he died to set all mankind free. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ” Jesus Christ died for all not just a select few. God is a Spirit and that isn’t white, black, red, yellow, whatever. In reality, there is only one race- “the human race”. I hope you get over your prejudice mindset. I was raised prejudice too but the Lord delivered me from that junk long time ago. When Ronald Reagan was President, he made it ultra plain that all of our laws were based on the Ten Commandments but now that we are falling apart as a nation, they are only suggestions and bad ones to the politically correct. We have turned our backs on the God who made this country the greatest nation in the world and we are going downhill fast, super fast. The Lord Jesus Christ is our only hope.
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Funny, you say “We were founded on Christianity.”
Doesn’t Article 6 of the Constitution say something a little different? Something about separation of church and state?
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Your ignorance astounds me. Article VI says no such thing.
The First Amendment guarantees that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;. . .” It says noting about separating Church and State – that is a more recent and incorrect construct.
Article VII says:”. . .done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD. . .” {emphasis added}. That is a clear acknowledgment of God.
From George Washington to the delegates of the Constitutional Convention:
If, to please the people, we offer what we ourselves disapprove, how can we afterwards defend our work? Let us raise a standard to which the wise and the honest can repair. The event is in the HAND OF GOD.” {emphasis added}.
The Convention prayed to God every day before the start of business and there are literally dozens of references in their papers. Here’s another from George:
“I am sure there never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a divine interposition in their affairs, than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe, that they have forgotten that agency, which was so often manifested during our revolution, or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God, who is alone able to protect them.”
God was in integral part of life for the vast majority of Americans and the Bible was the main, if not the only, textbook for much of our early history. We are a nation founded on Christian principles. Nothing can change that fact.
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“but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Hmmm, so you are saying this country was ‘Founded’ upon Christianity, but the Constitution SPECIFICALLY DISALLOWS your valued principles as being a single qualification to lead this country?
Your religious feverishness astounds me. Sounds like you want to ‘take your country back’… From whoever ‘took’ it from you and is hiding it…
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Our founding fathers knew all about religious persecution. Their goal was to ensure that the Federal government could not be controlled by any one religion to the exclusion of others. It was not designed to exclude religion from government – it was designed to ensure INCLUSION – a very Christian value.
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“Their goal was to ensure that the Federal government could not be controlled by any one religion to the exclusion of others.”
I agree, maybe YOU need to respond to Ekkman (and not me), who originally posited:
“We have turned our backs on the God who made this country the greatest nation in the world and we are going downhill fast, super fast. The Lord Jesus Christ is our only hope.”
That seems an awful lot like the blurring of the whole Church/State thing, no? Or are you making my point for me?
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Point out the phrase in Ekkman’s post that says anything about a Church State.
I read it again, and I see a post that is warning people that they need to get right with God. That’s it.
Since many religions believe in God, then there would not be a specific religion put forward even if someone attempted a Church State.
Where was that so-called ‘Seperation of church and state’ thing, again? Still looking for that doc.
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Louie Says: “Point out the phrase in Ekkman’s post that says anything about a Church State.”
Sure – “We were founded on Christianity. We all need Jesus Christ”
Louie Asks: “Where was that so-called ‘Seperation (Sic) of church and state’ thing, again?”
Sure – ‘but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.’
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Still do not see anything about a church state in the post.
Still do not see anything about seperation of church and state in our freedom documents.
Are you dizzy from spinning?
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Wow, are you just throwing a tantrum?
You know, what? You are TOTALLY right! CLEARLY Ekkman does NOT believe this country (which was founded on Christ Jesus) has turned it’s back on God (which has caused its downfall) and would benefit from this entire country turning to Jesus Christ. My bad. Clearly this is exactly what the Founding Fathers had envisioned and is COMPLETELY in the spirit of the Constitution.
“This country was founded on Christ Jesus and he is our only hope now as he was then. It is not greener on the other side, they are making a one world order and there will be no place to run. We must stand fast in the Lord of glory to overcome.”
“We were founded on Christianity. We all need Jesus Christ,”
“We have turned our backs on the God who made this country the greatest nation in the world and we are going downhill fast, super fast. The Lord Jesus Christ is our only hope.”
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I know that it is difficult for you to understand, but that is no reason to start whining.
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Still having trouble translating English, Mattie?
How much farther Left will you be retreating?
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There is really only one hope for America and that hope is based on II Chron. 7:14 which says, “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” This country was founded on Christ Jesus and he is our only hope now as he was then. It is not greener on the other side, they are making a one world order and there will be no place to run. We must stand fast in the Lord of glory to overcome.
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This country was founded on a Constitution.
Highly rated. What do you think?
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The Constitution is certainly a foundational document but the principles and values on which it was written were Christian. At the time of its writing, we were very much a Christian nation. That we have fallen away from our Christian principles and values is clearly shown in the sad state of our Nation and, in my opinion, will be our ultimate downfall.
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The Constitution grants us freedom of religion; a right I fully support.
I do not, however, support an agenda to rewrite history.
The number of Christians at the time of it’s inception is not pertinent. There were many people of varying beliefs involved in it’s writing, and certainly Christians were among them. But the document was a secular (by man) attempt to establish a nation with an equal playing field for all people, of all values, for all time. Just read the preamble for confirmation…
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
The Constitution defines the rights of “We The People”, and it’s the framework from which our laws are made.
The laws of this country are not derived by the values of Christianity, let alone the central figurehead of Christianity, as Ekkman suggested.
I support the right to practice religion as people see fit. But I will speak out when I see something that is clearly a contradiction from the known historical facts. And will not accept any suggestion that Christians, and Christian values, are somehow more relevant to the rights of “We The People”. Christians are no more, or less, rightfully endowed by the Constitution than anyone else.
Freedom and Liberty is the main principal. Another way of saying that is, “Equality of rights.”.
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Nice passage. However, this country was founded on spilling the blood of youth , stealing from the neive, enslaving the black and poor…FRAUD!!! All in the intrest of the elitiest christian white rich man. And it is still happening today.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfVFxRsKQc
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It’s alright we know where you’ve been
You’ve been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn’t like school
And you know you’re nobody’s fool
So welcome to the machine
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Of course it’s the evil white Christians like my family who came from Holland after the 2nd world war after half our relatives where killed by the Germains.
My relatives died trying to hide the the Jews who where thier neighbours.
They where white Christians.
My parents where under 10 when they watched executions in front of their homes…of their neighbours.
My great uncle was executed in front of my Dad for helping a Dutch Jew.
He was a white Christian.
My Gramps came over from Holland with 6 kids ,no job and no money and started a business building homes.
Employed ALL COLOURS AND ETHNIC GROUPS. He was a white Christian.
He did not see colours…ever. I know I worked with many ethnic groups in his company and I saw Gramps give folks jobs just so they could eat.
He was a white Christain.
Most of my family does not see a person’s colour .
Somehow though we as white Christisna who built N.A. by the way are according to you… elitiest christian white rich men.
I can’t think of a single person in my really large white Christian family who thinks about a persons skin colour.
We got past that a long time ago.
Maybe you should try to do the same.
Folks like you and I don’t know what your back ground is…but you seem to want to remind my family and folks like us that we are racists when in fact as I said we don’t think much about it.
That’s until I see some thing like this and I have to say…oh ya that’s right we must be racists since some entitiy wants to keep this racists crap ongoing.
Grow up and get over yourself.
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So than who do you hold responsable? Should I have been Politically Correct? and just sad “man” is to blame; so not ot offend those certain”groups”. Groups as in White, Elite, Rich, and Christian. I mean I do know we have a black president…Progress right!? But all he has done is resuffled the same marked deck that we have been delt over and over.
Look I do appologize for offending you. And of coarse I know that there are just as many good and humain white christians – rich or poor – that are not the cause of fraud, I am one of them..except for the christian part. However, I was making a point to the blogg by EKKMAN.
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Thanks for the communictaion.
Ist… please don’t be PC with me.
PC makes me vomit.
2nd …your president is half black in case anyone cares.
He had a white Mother.
3rd you can’t offend me..I have a thick skin.
I don’t know you and don’t care really what you say about me.
I’m a truth teller and tell it like it is.
To me one of the biggest prblems we have is simply EGO.
On all sides.
Not enough of us are evolving as the world should.
Who do we hold repsonsible ?
To me it’s the elite as you said but not just white elites.
I see scarcity mind set continually preached which is not true.
By the media of course,the banks and the governments.
Lastly and most powerful is the government run school systems indoctrinating our kids with complete scarcity mind set.
Why don’t they teach what Buckminster Fuller spoke of often which was that we have enough resourcse on our planet that everyone can be a billionaire.
Yes with a “b”.
So we need to change our thinking 180 dgrees.
How do we help the folks in Africa and such?
We have the technology to do it with the internet…but will we?
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my grandma hid a jew in her closet during the war but she was smarter than your uncle and didn’t get caught or shot.
stop being such an apologist.
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read a history book you brain washed robot, or should i say Machine. Murder and rape is how every country in the history of earth was founded. no new country gets founded on peace and love. if all that theft and murder hadn’t occurred you wouldn’t have been born. the only reason that white people are losing everything is because they have turned into self-hating uneducated losers like yourself.
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Why would you deny Machine his right to self-loathing?
Machine reminds me of the Stars and Bars argument.
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Absolutly! Which is why I shared my perspective;based on history books, many books, as well as some extended world travel resulting in residing in other countries and the many friendships that came from it.
When WHEN will we learn that war begot war begot…War is an utter loss of humanity. Are you willing to kill, (or as you stated…RAPE and MURDER)? War is the hostle and violent take over by one group over another, and its means to an end is through acts of evil…than being the end result is evil it will always lead to more evil; this is what history has taught us. The fact that I am here (born) does not mean staying the course of a history that may or may not have brought me here; just as a child born from rape dosen’t mean he must become a rapist. My survival dosen’t have to be by my shedding the blood of another or my own. My excistence dosen’t mean domination over anyother race or culture. White man isn’t loosing becuse of me or those who protest a continuence of destruction through murder and rape…Everyone loses when we take rather than give. No I don’t feel directly responsable for the atrocities of our past, and yes I am very aware of the few today who are extreme fundamentalist, they exist in EVERY culture and every race and EVERY religion, however killing off a race or proving dominance over another culture doesn’t improve the world…It weakens it, causing greater problems, which economics is the least…War begot war…As Gandhi once stated, “…an eye for an eye and soon the whole world is blind.”
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“Right to take care of yourself…”
I do not associate myself with the republican or democrat party…I simple choose to (hmm) think outside both those boxes. History shows that both parties – over the past 100 plus years – does not have “the peoples intest”. The Obama Party is no different. If national health care is “for the people” than it should be voted on by the people…Not elected greedy liars who are pressured by their party and baught out by corporate lobbiest.
I – like many of my family and friends – work hard…which enables me to take care of my needs. However, I cannot afford to pay for medical insurance; and if the company I work for ( a local mom and pop buisness) is FORCED to provide health insurance they WILL go belly up. Todays health insurance policies are for BIG corporations, the rich and elite…It will be no different with a socialized system; it will continue to rob Peter to pay Paul.
So what I am saying is that YES we need to do something to change the way health insurance works/costs in America. However we MUST Not allow government to CHEAT us from our individual rights as Americans…We have already suffered enough at the hands of government swine.
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I didn’t agree with all your comments, but I very much agree with this one. The “Elitist Christian” does not exist in reality. There is no such thing. They are only Christain by profession of the word and do so for socio-political gain. Real Christians surrender selfishness and pride.
Nevertheless, I feel the left and the right are merely two sides of the same box. If one argues, or is a proponent, of either side: one is still in the box. Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews on the Left…Bill O’Rielly and Glenn Beck on the Right: Could they actually be doing a dis-service to the American Patriot by providing a venue in which the left/right agruement may be “vented”?
I proclaim that the box should be kicked to the curb. We have a relatively simple Constitution and 50 unique states. These States are 50 unique nations. Our system was designed so that we could live after our own fashion in our own States.
Ron Paul expresses this point to the point of utter exaspiration. The Federal Government does not hold power of the States outside the specific and enumerated powers of the US Constitution. It is time for them to shut-up, go home, and allow us the freedom that was “endowed upon us by our creator.”
Our rights are unalienable, and endowned in such a manner; they were given us by GOD himself. They were not graciously afforded us by any man. Therefore, they can be taken by no man. If the elitist do not agree, then I have a rifle that says it is so.
Forgive me, I do not want violence…but I have decided that I will no longer run from them…
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Thumbs up.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your perspective.
The dis-service I see comming from those you mention is that they tend to be nothing more than BLAH BLAH BLAH,constantly spouting off…simmilar to the Y2K rhetoric…Of course the Right agrees with the Right and the Left agrees with the Left; to a degree. Personally I can’t stand any of the (so called political) network commentators…none of them ever seem to say anything worth listening to…except for Jon Stewart and that other commedian! Ho ho!!
Yes it very much seems like it is going to be a blood bath. And I am not one for violence and murder either. I hear the cry over the hills…”The Patriots are coming,The Patriots are coming “! We American need to be prepaired to either take a life or give ones life…
Kingdom of Fear (excellent read ) by Hunter S. Thompson
Say do you know of any other political blog sites worth checking out???
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Ron, I love you dude. I don’t tell you enough.
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We can discuss this and every other issue until we are blue in the face. Until we figure a way to get Ron Paul into the Whithouse, everything is moot. My opinion is there is not a chance that he can make it as a Republican. Any suggestions?
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The Liberty & Fiscal Responsibility (or, Tea Party) movement is growing daily. If this country-wide movement keeps exposing the hypocrisy of the liberal-neoconservative candidates he’ll be facing in 2012, he can get the Republican nomination. We won CPAC!
My suggestion, don’t give up hope now, 2+ years before the fact. Likely, the economy will be far worse at that time. And Ron Paul will only gain more support with every passing day. Especially since he is the only consistently Fiscal Conservative in the GOP.
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did you ever see that one interview where they asked Ron Paul why he’s Republican if he doesn’t follow most of the party line.
He quipped : “if I wasn’t Republican I wouldn’t be in the Senate”.
That hits the nail on the head. If you’re not republican or democrat you can’t get a seat in congress (well maybe 5 seats out of 400 if you lucky, no real voice).
That being said, I’m not a blind adherent to Ron Paul. I call myself a libertarian in the sense of believing in the constitution, limited government and true freedom. We should be careful ourselves of becoming non-thinking sheep followers of any new party.
E.g. my roommate voted Democrat and was a major democrat supporter in the last election. Yet she couldn’t tell me WHY she was, couldn’t explain any of their policies etc.
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Libertarians don’t believe in the Constitution or liberty, but they sure do believe in “true freedom”.
Everyone loves freedom. Terrorists want freedom to kill you. The rich want the freedom to hire slaves. China wants the freedom to invade Taiwan. North Korea wants the freedom to invade South Korea. Indeed Libertarians are for “true freedom”, but they are not for Liberty.
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Hmmm. I agree that goverNment (the big and powerful ones) want to strategically position themselves (millitarilly and economically) for their own personal gain. The U.S. is no different; remember those Natives that were labled SAVAGES…Slaughtered, swindled, and pushed out of the land they had lived on for centuries. Lets not forget the entire South West which was Mexico until we decided to just take it. As well, our history with the black man…Something white folks want to just forget about as if it never happened.
What goes around comes around! Which is why we spend trillions of dollars on the millitary…The U.S. either gets in bed with other powers (i.e. Saudi Arabia), hedges bets (Isreal) – like a GODFATHER (as in mafia) – or we just invade/ become military active ( China ’45-46/ ’50-’53, Korea ’50-’53,Vietnam61-73, Laos ’64-’73, Nicaragua’80, Panama ’89, Afghanistan’98/ present, Iraq91-99/01-present), all catapulted by some demagog propaganda that insightes the jingoes…Non of the formentioned military actions lead to a democratic government being put in place, just the murder of houndreds of thousands young men and women. The latest band wagon rhetoric: If you are not with America…You’re with the terrorist.
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Mike B is right on!
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Citizen, you are WACKED!!
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To Mark,
My apology, I think your correct, I’ve been “whacked” by Obama Care and I’m not thinking clearly.
I’m heading to the med cabinet to find a pain reliever.
Again… Sorry
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Marionette Hicks– You are mistaken when you say that Clinton would have let us know about Obama’s B.C. You see, these people are all in bed with one another, and they are all on the same team– even though they may bicker and fight in the limelight; behind closed doors you can be sure they are snuggled up tight to each other. It’s like watching pro wrestling. They are all paid the same way, and it’s all a dog and pony show; a distraction designed to keep people occupied while the one they want is placed in the presidency. Now, it’s true: Obama was NOT supposed to win the primary; the plan was for Hillary. But she’s got sooo much doggone CHARISMA, that it was Barry that prevailed. But believe me, all the horses in the race are owned by the EXACT SAME interests. The same steamroller that sent this damn bill down our throats would have done the same thing had Hillary won in the primary. When you own all the horses in the race, you win no matter what.
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Soooo…Do you think IF Ron Paul were to get elected this would change?
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Hi, I have Perfect Credit, Valuable Home, Excellent Income, Retired, Much Cash on Hand and protected by the Homestead Exemption (cannot be touch no mortgage). Yes, I am now amassing all the Unsecured Credit Lines I can get (visa etc). I have been laying the ground work for several years to take the Banks Down for as much as I can obtain. I am buying 1/10 th oz gold coins and bags of silver coins. I purchase a small but nice place in North Western Canada to flee too! Enjoying Freedom again will be as it was in the good old days; getting away from Large Cities, Pollution, Taxes, Crime, Corruption and the galloping crud of mass human civilization. My fourth trip is planned and I have buried much of the funds like Jessie James. Fought in Nam and believed in the good old USA. For the last 10 years I wanted and hoped this country would wake up and correct its course of action but to no avail. I see the Mongrels, Free Martins and a One World Government taking over our country before my very eyes for our Government is a Cesspool of Legalized Criminals and Financial Terrorists.
I have never been so excited about any project in my life, knowing I will be able to screw these Jew Bastards that control our Banking Systems and Financial Centers. I am going to walk away with gold and cash and the government can consider the gift to me as a real Bailout and add it to the National Debt with its Trillions. As I get 5 to 20 Gold Coins a month and watching the Cash piling up makes me feel like D. B. COOPER or WILLIE SUTTON getting ready to pull off a bank job. Americans had better get ready because the Chaos and Anarchy coming down to its citizens will be a patch on there asses of what Hitler did to Europe. Know your Enemy and fear him well because you are in his sites. Come out of the Either and quite worrying about voting and hoping for a better world, Freedom has VAPORIZED.
Wake and prepare your families before its to late. GET SMART, PLEASE PREPARE YOUR FAMILIES NOW. THANKS, DEC
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Be careful….you can’t eat gold
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Gold and silver purchases the eats.
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Gold and silver purchases the guns and ammo to hunt and protect with!
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Amen! Get free
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Field McConnell and his team has discovered that Paul Pelosi stands to make a fortune from his company in the insurance industry and Paul is positioned to make money hand over fist. Nancy had a vested interest in getting the bill passed. Http://www.abledanger.blogspot.com
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The date March 21st 2010 is similar to December 24, 1913 (Federal Research Act) – dates that initiated the dismemberment of the USA. Both dates have/will lead to the emergence of the neo global Dark Age, that is similar to that which culminated in the genocidal condition in the 14th century Western Europe. In both cases – 700 years apart – the same parties played out and resulted in similar events.
I am aware of the ObamaCare package details, which was passed and signed into law on May 21-23. In spite of this tragedy, too many Americans today are optimistic and hopeful that a possible solution can be found, and that the package can be reversed. These hopeful people design tactical steps (e.g., issue legal action against the unconstitutionality of ObamaCare implementation signature; hope that the November elections will help adjust some power balance in the House and Senate; emphasize distinctions between State and Federal authority, etc.) and in the process hope that this tactical approach will reverse the strategy.
We should note however that as of today the USA is officially governed under a non-USA constitutional authority – specifically a World Banking schedule. Under such conditions, each and every American citizen is no longer an American citizen, but a categorized and graded world entity. This is also why the November elections may easily be ‘postponed’ or rendered void. Some threatening conditions may be created to justify such action. This, by default, will also place all elected officials in the same ‘suspended’ category. Also, one can anticipate that the 50 States of the United States will soon be re-designed.
Why am I writing such dire predictions for the once much beloved and Christian United States of America? It is to encourage Americans to start thinking strategically and not tactfully only. Americans should not exclude the worst case scenario as the sanest possibility. We should consider March 21nd 2010 as the date that has marked the end of the existing Constitutional United States. We should work on a double plan – a) some tactical moves; as well as, b) establish networks with those who understand the strategic reality, and start planning logistics towards salvaging what still remains of the USA during the following 12 to 16 months.
I hold a PhD in Russian Languages and Literatures, with minors in International Relations, Engineering. Today, I work as an Industrial Management Consultant and wrote books that address fundamental scientific methodological issues (see WhichOnesAreScientific.com).
Also, with time being of the essence, I can direct the reader towards a 2009 Russian film entitled “Admiral.” When the Soviet Union fell, many Russian historians, politicians, military, etc. have critically re-examined why and how Russia fell under Bolshevik power. Now, similar circumstances and causalities are evident in the USA.
George Grebens (PhD)
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Fred the Protectionist
Freddie, it’s good to see that the King of Imbecilic Morons is still among us. I thought someone might have offed you. I still see you are struggling to master the elusive skill of reading.
Never fear Freddie Boy, all the good folks here are always willing to aid the afflicted. Let’s get started shall we? I’ll take it slow as usual, just for you Freddie Boy.
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, is your subject of the day.
These simple words are implied as a protected right for every American. I know for the afflicted that the term “Constitutional Rights” may be a little confusing. Let’s first clarify the Constitution does not, nor has it ever granted any American Rights. The Constitution clearly acknowledges that these are inherent rights of all people. Yes Freddie, that includes imbecilic self-illiterate morons as well.
What the Constitution does mandate, is that our Government guarantees us that those inherent rights shall be Protected and Insured for every American under the law. The most essential word to pay attention to in regards to this lesson is “American”, in the legal vernacular. In this case it would be defined as an individual has the right to “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” which is protected for each of us. When someone forces another to submit to something against their will, they are denying those individuals the Liberty to make a decision they deem as best for their own life, therefore their own happiness. There is nothing that requires anyone to surrender their rights, for the sake of those to inept, or lazy to pay their way. You want to commit suicide in a Government Health Care System, that’s your right. What is not your right or your governments Freddie Boy, is forcing us to commit suicide with you.
What is scary Freddie is that morons like you appear to support a government health care system, when you have no clue of how one works. If you think that Insurance companies deny a lot of treatment, then wait till you learn that the government today denies under Medicare nearly ten times the amount as private insurance companies. The fact that far more Americans die as a result of not meeting Government mandates that qualify, or disqualify one for treatment, than any other program, which also includes the indigent. Treatment for all Americans in need of it, is already required by existing laws, no one can be refused life saving treatment. No one dies in this country because they are denied treatment by Hospitals. If they do, someone is, or should be headed to prison…That’s already the law Freddie Boy. You want to end someone’s life early in this country, force them into Medicare. There is no law that says the Federal Government can’t deny you treatment, and believe it they do…allot. Just ask anyone who has been forced to enter this Government run program. Heck better yet, asked a Doctor who treats Medicare Patients, if you can find one who will.
They are few and far between, and becoming fewer every day, because of the political red tape, but mainly because they are sworn to protect life, and the government restricts them from doing that with their strict guidelines. The Government takes from the Doctor, and the patient their rights to act in the best interest of their health, therefore their own life. The manner in which Medicare is mandated is in fact an unconstitutional program itself, and rapidly failing program at that.
So you see Freddie Boy, I truly support all of the Liberal Nazis being given this government health care. There will be far less of you around to try and still the rights and money of hard working Americans, for yourself.
No one I have heard supporting Mr. Paul or any who oppose this idiot law, denounces health care reform. To think that anyone who opposes this unjust law does so to deny those in need health care, is just preaching Liberal Nazis Propaganda Rhetoric.
What most here are opposed to, is their right to chose being unjustly…and unconstitutionally taken from them. Anything that threatens our rights in any way, threatens us all Black, White, Brown, Red or Yellow. If you or this illegal government think that We The People are going to allow you to place our families in jeopardy without a fight, you are truly as delusional as you sound.
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Sorry guys, just caught up with your comments. Here’s a link to the page. I actually read those comments somewhere else, businessweek not too long ago I believe.
http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2007/06/the-inescapable.html
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I ran across this quote from a noted Harvard economist. We all need to understand this. Just now on CNBC they were talking about global economic integration in the consumer protection bill. This is the quote. “democracy, national sovereignty and global economic intergration are mutually incompatible” It’s possible to have any 2 but not all 3. “It’s the inexcapable trilemma of the world economy”
Now if this is true & if our politicans aim is global economic integration we have to forego either national sovereignty or democracy. It’s quite obvious to me that democracy is being sacrificed for global economic integration & national sovereignty. How do you all feel about that? “Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a territory. It can be found in a power to rule & make law that rests on a political fact for which no purely legal explanation can be provided.” Making laws that need no legal reason. It appears that Constitutional rule of law doesn’t matter. How does this make you feel? It gets me angry.
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TedWa:
I am interested to know your source on the “trilemma” of the world economy. Can you provide a citation where I might be able to learn more about this topic? Thanks very much,
M.T.
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To TedWa
It appears they are “channeling” these ideas from a Divine Spiritual entity who is trying to help them in creating a Utopia.
You know… The New World Order thing!
My concern is, its probably Lucifer!
Just as Sal Alinski did when he wrote is “Rules for Radicals” and dedicated it to the First Social Radical, Lucifer
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First thing is stop labeling every arguement as liberal and conservative. That divides the audience right off the bat. this is about a change of mindset, alot of years of indoctrination need to be relearned. Talk about liberty, the real meaning of our rights in the Constitution. Putting it under the above names will only fail the American public unless you want another civil war. May I ask first who out there know the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto, this country has been following this for over a hundred years. Follow the money.
Don’t Tread on Me
Michael Bojarski
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Ron Paul is unfortunately right on.
I’m Canadian and I’m very concerned for all of us because if the U.S. goes bankrupt we are going to be in a bad way to say the least.
Our Country of Canada is doing much better than the U.S. financially but we still have FAR TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT.
That’s why I like Ron Paul. He is the only coming out and saying we have too much government in our lives.
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For the past 15 years, Congress, Democrats & Republicans, have sold American Industry to foreign shores. We currently have a 12 trillion dollar national debt, the majority of which is 2-year t-bills owed to foreign governments. Over the past two years we have quadrupled the US money supply. In 1945 millions of men came home from WWII. They married and had children around 1946. These children turn 65 in 2011.
We have trillions of dollars of Social Security and Medicaid promises made to these children of the WWII veterans that we do not have the money to pay, the credit to borrow, the money supply to double, or the industry to tax to support it. It is simple mathmatics, don’t take my word for it…research it for yourselves.
Big, little, short, tall, Left, Right, Gay, Straight, Rich, or Poor; Life for us all is about to change. Government can not help us. We must help ourselves. Prepare! Store food and take steps toward self-sufficiency. The real American Hero is he and she who provide for others by their own hand and of their own free will.
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Eddy M
“Unfortunately, the Ron Paul camp won’t drop their unconstitutional religious agenda, and so the young voters will keep them from winning, because to some people their freedom is worth more than their money.”
It never ceases to amaze me, how some people can write, but have never mastered the ability to read.
For starters the so called “Ron Paul Camp” has never tauted religion in its agenda. Because those who choose to embrace their religious faith support Ron Paul, does not mean everything he stands for is religion based. Just as everyone who supported Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton is not a Lying Lecherous Adulterer. The fact that Freedom of Religion is one of the most revered rights that this Nation was founded upon, leaves one to question if you ever graduated grade school. If you did, then your ignorance of the Constitution must be a matter of choice. However; fear not your right to choose ignorance over knowledge is protected under that Constitution.
As for the youth of America not supporting Ron Paul, you must be kidding. College Students are among his most ardent and vocal supporters. To be ignorant is your right, to denounce that ignorance is mine.
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More laws to control the extent of how much our politicians power can reach. These jokers have overstepped their bounds and must be held accountable for the failure of their actions. We, their employers, must remove their elitist, self serving pay hikes, personal healthcare and pensions and take exactly what we say they will get….not what they say they will get. We are responsible for letting them get away with this outrageous behavior, now it’s our responsibility to take it away.
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I do agree…Tell me though, HOW!?!? I have my own perspective…it’s bloody arduous…Revolution is easier than reform! But are the American people ready!?!?
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The only way is to elect the bastards out! We have to find the right people running for office that are true conservative. Go to Liberty PAC, Ron Paul is the Honorary Chairman and their goal is to help fund and elect true conservatives, pro-constitution, pro-liberty, pro-American sovereignty candidates at the Federal and State levels. So stop the crying and whining and get involved NOW! He supports John Dennis who is going up against Nancy Pelosi in 8th district in California and supports many others liberty minded people. I threw fifty bucks to his campaign. Lord knows I want that HAG out she is has caused enough grief for America! Now GO get involved and spread the word!!! Thank you and long live liberty and America
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Good job Richard! I am an everyday, average, working Joe with wife and kids. I am usually broke by Thursday of each week and I don’t blow money. I know what $50 bucks is worth.
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unfortunately James, Congress doesn’t know what that $50 is worth.
And if you save it, they will tax it away from you and spend it for the ‘greater good’ and ‘welfare’ of the state.
Why should you be able to save $50 when there are poor people with no money in their bank account? (yes, that really is Congress’ viewpoint apparently)
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I am saddened to say that I can not argue with that statement…
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Ed
Although he has sealed and hidden access to his birth certificate, I don’t personally believe it is because it would show he is not a citizen. If that were the case, Slick Willie would have seen to it that was known in the primary.
Which leaves one to question, what else might a birth certificate reveal, that the first proclaimed Black President of the United States not want anyone to see?
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In “Common Sense” by Thomas Pain he talks about all the rejected petitions to King George III. They had to wait as long 5 months to get their rejection. We have it as quick as we can click the remote. Could we possibly imagine having to wait months for an answer?!? However, our founding fathers gave the “King” all the time in the world to let us know that we are his subjects. We have it real time. Countrymen, understand Who grants us our rights, and who grants us bondage. November is coming! Be ready! Washington is not our “King”!!!!
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This is not an issue of Health Care. Nor is it an issue of Racism that the deceivers have tried to make it. This is an issue concerning the very foundation upon which this Nation was built. Anyone who believes that the people who oppose this Idiotic Agenda, do so to deny health care to those who do not have insurance, is nothing short of Moronic.
This is a Constitutional issue…This is an issue of Democracy, the majority of Americans have spoken, and this Administration has sent a resounding answer in response.
SCREW YOUR DEMOCRACY…The Liberal Nazis Fascist rule this Nation Now.
Your rights are now what we tell you they are.
To those who believe the Federal Government is the supreme law, I say this…
Only a Liberal Nazi or a Conservative Fascist (to be fair) would not know that the Federal Government is not the supreme law of this land. It is the Constitution, which guarantees the protections of the people as the supreme power, not the Government.
The majority rules, if Obama and his fellow Democrats’ have not noticed the polls clearly reflect the Nays nearly have it 3 to 1. The people have spoken, and the Government chooses not to listen. This clearly and irrefutably says one thing; the Government of America has been over thrown. The Government of this nation has always been by the grace of the people’s majority, and these protections are insured by the supreme law of the land, our Constitution and not the courts. No court, not even the almighty Supreme Court has the authority to rewrite the Constitution. The only way for this bill to become a just law is by amending the Constitution, then three quarters of the States must ratify that amendment, and that will never happen. If this process is not followed, then lower you’re American Flags to half mask, for our nation has been conquered from with-in.
To force the will of the minority upon the majority is only done in a Fascist system. Here again the supreme law affords the people…not a right, but a duty to remove such an illegal government. We must by mandate of our Constitution, enforce the will of the majority by way of the vote. If this process is hindered in any way, it calls upon us to remove such a Government by the force of arms, but only if all democratic means have failed.
If the latter comes to pass, a whole lot of folks are going to really need health care.
When the nation that claims to champion freedom, imprisons per capita more of its citizens than any other nation in the world, cries first for Judicial Reform, not laws that will allow this Illegal Fascist Government to imprison even more.
Economic / Financial Reform, and most assuredly Political Reform, are needed long before a Trojan Horse called Health Care Reform.
Health care reform began as nothing more than a decoy, to take our attention off of “The FED”, and the issue of big money Wall Street reform.
Of this illegal government I ask…
The majority of those opposing this law being forced upon them, are willing to die for their freedoms, are you as willing to die trying to deny us those freedoms?
The Supreme law in this country is, and always will be the will of the majority, not the will of the Federal Government, not the will of the Democratic or Republican Parties, and most assuredly not the will of the self anointed “Almighty Obama”, our leader…our dictator… Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!!!
Oh my God, what have we done…? May god have mercy on our doomed Nation?
For today the Democratic Republic known as America has been overthrown.
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Ed, here is part 2 of the Reverend Manning trial, stating that there is no proof
that obama ever attended Columbia University.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF0nQ-d4Z-I
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This is a reply to Ed, who posted on this site at 3:12 this afternoon.
I live in Texas, and respect Dr. Paul, very much.
I have viewed this website a few times in the past, but have never written on it
before.
Ed, I don’t know if you have ever heard of Reverend Manning in Harlem NY,
but I am going to try and post a YouTube video for you to view.
I hate what is going on in our nation, and am even having trouble totally
believing the people I have deemed “good”.
Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WedxY61d60
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Funny thing…it’s not actually “health care” at all, but what I’ve termed the “illness manipulation and control system.”
Not a single penny of the new hundreds of billions (let’s face it, it’ll be well over a trillion a year extra once we hear the full (publically released) ramifications…it always is!) is going to actually go towards “health” but it will almost all go to pharmaceutical companies, corporate hospitals, multinational insurance companies, and a fair portion of what’s left over will go towards bribing those who willmake things worse for the people, and more profitable to kill them off.
If there ever is a “health care system” developed–we do NOT have one now, despite the wilfully ignorant claims that we do!–it will consist of natural foods first, natural remedies second (where applicable, of course), and pharmaceutical and surgical procedures last. In an emergency, there is simply no substitute for anasthesia and surgery to rebuild a shattered body…but even there, nature is still the original source of ideas and raw materials for all of the drugs in the toxic pharmacopea!
I have heard various scentific treatises on what was used for anaesthetic during ancient brain surgeries (they have found numerous mummies and skeletons around the world with evidence of healed skulls which were obviously skillfully (for their time) opened and resealed), and the prime theories consist of opium and cannabis as the only available compounds during those periods.
Long-n-short: There is only MONEY in Barry’s “health care” package…there will be NO NET BENEFITS in public health, with the exception of illegal immigrants, and the financial health of the big money players that have effectively gutted what could have developed into a true health care system…were it not deliberately destroyed in the name of government and corporate greed.
Just wait until you see what Codex Alimentarius and Monsanto have planned! It’s going to be even more fun when all the parties get together out in the open!
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I am saddened by the events of the last few days. Our country will go bankrupt. This is what they want. They want America to become a welfare state and there is nothing that we can do short of an armed response or military coup, which has it’s own set of problems. I would love to see Ron in the white house but I am sad to say that it will never happen because he doesn’t have the support of the people who are really in power. What else are we supposed to do? Washington has proven that they do not listen to us or even care for that matter. They are doing whatever they want and trying to divide and conquer us at the same time and it is working. I pray that we the people will come together and take this county back before it is too late.
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I too would like to see Dr Paul in the White House, BUT it would take that AND a 67% majority of both Dem and Rep CONSERVATIVES voting to reverse the Socialist trend.
Given the gerrymandered district that keep Dems like Barny Frank in a permanent seat, its not likely that the pendulum will ever swing that far right again. Its doubtful that ObamaCare will ever be reversed once a few million more begin getting Free Health care.
Sadly but I do believe Dr Paul is again correct… “National Bankruptcy will ultimately Repeal ObamaCare”
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I am not a conspiracy nut but bankruptcy is coming so clearly the reason they dont care what it costs is not that it will be repealed in bankruptcy, but expanded to complete socialism. ….no good crisis goes to waste
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It is time for Americans to stand up against the Socialist Democratic Gov.and not give up any more of our Liberties!
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That’s an easy thing to say but , it is my opinion that this government is not going to stop destroying our freedoms and the only way, as a free people, that we are going to stop them is to either push for several of our states to seceed from the union and go our separate way , and if they force us to defend our right to remain free, then it may be time once again to go head to head with this god damnnned socialist government .
It is also my opinion that These socialists pr!cks are going to push this nation into civil war.
The republicans and the democrats who are in charge of this government are Socialists. They were elected by people who want socialism. Unfortunately, freedom loving Americans are out numbered by these socialists, so the only way that we are going to remain free is through the secession of several states from the union.
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Ray, as I’d mentioned on an earlier post, the grasshoppers will always vote for any senator/congressman that supports a bill that takes from the ants and gives to the grasshopper, until everyone has nothing.
google search “ant and grasshopper the modern version”
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Loudman70,
what would you propose we do?
TEA party Tax Revolt?
Refuse to file Tax Returns and Claim 12 Exemptions?
I’m not sure what our options are?
Just like the original Colonists, King Obama has us by the short hairs!
He owns all the money, therefore he makes all the rules.
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Keep up the good work. This is a year of just restricting bill approvals as much as possible. As soon as conservatives have control of congress a lot needs to be reversed. Also future budgets must be restricted to 50 or 60 per cent of the request. This will squeeze things so that changes are forced.
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dear america,
you are the new mexico, raised on robbery, aka oil robber barons fostering war for the profit of industrial capitalists. how can we help?
pyetw
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