61 responses to “Ron Paul: Will Republicans Fulfill Their Promises?”

  1. The Freedom Jury

    Republicans understand the word "promise" in the same way that guppie fish understand quantum mechanics.

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  2. The Freedom Jury

    The Repuglicans have a well-deserved stink on them. They've dabbled with truth and played in deception.

    The Repuglicans are identical to the Democrats: they are all socially intolerant statists: federal reserve slavers. To hell with them all, they are all 100% full of shit.

    I'm voting Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, and "Do Not Retain" for the judges (and unless John Buttrick is your judge, so should you).

    Moreover, I'm now withholding my support from the system: I'm not paying taxes, I'm destroying government property that has no right to exist (SUCH AS: draft registration cards from my local Post Office), and I am acting as a jury nullification agent against the unlawful statute law system.

    Kick Them All Out, And Then Kick Out Their Replacements!

    Peace, Individual Freedom.

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  3. Neil Thex

    Based upon their track record for the last eight years, the Republicans should never again be trusted to write a single check from the public treasury. They have been on a roll to Spend, Borrow, and Steal ever since 1981, and show no signs of stopping.

    Tex the CPA

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    1. Fred the Protectionist

      The Republicans absorbed Libertarian economic ideology and now you're not going to vote for them? Some allies you are.

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      1. longshotlouie

        Actually they moved left, closer to your ideology, Fled.
        That would be the polar opposite of libertatarian, but I'm sure you already know that.

        Is there anything that you don't want the government to do for you, Fled?

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        1. Fred the Protectionist

          Nope. The Republican Party first absorbed Libertarian economic ideology in the 1960's which is free-trade/open-borders/de-regulation. Now the Republican Party is slowly absorbing Libertarian social ideology. And you guys won't vote for them, hahaha, you usurped the party leadership the least you can do is vote for them.

          But alas, you're all nuts.

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  4. Bottomline

    There is no difference between the two party system! You can't really tell them apart no more. Just more spending on unecessary programs and a big expansion of Government.

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  5. Forest

    Hey Louie, you find it interesting that Ron Paul goes even against all other Republicans and continues to put earmarks (this is FY 2011 and NOT old news) we are talking about now:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001646-503544.html

    To, as you like to proselytize, 'get his precious taxpayer money' why does so often it go to the people that DID NOT pay taxes at the expense of those that did and to support the military-industrial complex?

    $19.5 Million: Texas Maritime Academy, Convert a Government Loaned ship into a "mission ready vessel" (Because we DEFINITELY need more military!)
    $12 Million: Community-Based Job Training Program, Spotted Blu Horse, Pay for high-school dropouts to learn technical skills (Socialism anyone? Your tax dollars at work - ok or not at work!)
    $1 Million: Space Alliance Technology Outreach Program, Houston Economic Partnership. (Literally, to educate small businesses about the knowledge and technology of the U.S. Space Program. WTF?!?! NOW WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT '"TEACHING" private industry? Wait a minute? How in the hell does the government know something that Free Markets already do? ahhhh, Libertarian cognitive dissonance...)
    $1.5 Million: Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Program, Texas State University. (So $1.5 Mil to train officers to deal with an "active shooter situation"? Shouldn't that have been part of the initial training? Why is a government agency teaching another government agency again?)
    $3 Million: Energy Resiliency Program (wait, shouldn't free markets be responsible for energry creation?)
    $350,000: Green Facility Initiative, Brazosport College (what? We want govt building fancy buildings for our higher education now?!?!?)
    $1 Million: Gulf States Vibrio Vulnificus Consumer Education Program, Judy Jamison (WOW! One MILLION DOLLARS!?!?! Tell you what Ron Paul, give me one quarter of that and see what I can do! Give Me a cool HALF A MILLION and i'll do even better!!!!)
    $1.2 Million: Low-income working families Day Care Program, Growing Minds Learning Academy (So, the government shouldn't be helping pay for Healthcare for children of poor families that didn't pay taxes, butttt.... the Government SHOULD BE PAYING FOR DAY CARE FOR FAMILIES THAT DONT PAY TAXES?!?)
    Recon Study of Brazoria County, Texas Coastline. Description (Literally!) given is: "Recon Study of Brazoria County Coastline". Ummm, $100k to have the government... Find a coastline? Nope, NO PORK HERE!!!
    $8 Million: Rollover Pass Recreational Fishing Piers, Texas GLO. So, now the government is just building piers? Eight million? When is that going to EVER be profitable - wait, maybe we can educate those people (on the Pier the government built for Eight million) about the Vibrio Vulnificus (which taxpayers also dropped a cool Million on)!!! Win/Win!!!!

    http://www.house.gov/paul/fundingrequests11.shtml

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    1. 1111cb

      http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/lm_health.php

      thought this would be interesting- lobby info-

      and Forrest, I will address this on his official website since I doubt he goes here to read

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  6. Al Martinez

    NO REPUBLICRATS! REPEAL AND RESTORE!
    BRING BACK THE CONSTITUTION AND THROW EVERYONE OUT IN 2010 except for a very select few like Ron Paul.

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  7. JP

    The Republicans and Democrats are identical - they just grow different areas of the Federal Government: Defense, Economy, Healthcare, etc... What George W. did after 9/11 to our Civil Liberties, Obama did to our Financial Freedom after the 2008/9 meltdown.

    Of course the Republicans will not live up to their promises. As history has consistently shown once a party gets into office their existence becomes about staying in office - not promoting ideals or principals.

    George Washington had to have incredible self-discipline and humility to voluntarily step down as president. Can you imagine anyone in office now doing that?

    Ron Paul is the only principal-centered politician I see in office today. Go Ron!!

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  8. Ray

    Most republicans will preach real principal when the republican party is sitting in the box of the minority party in control, but, when you give the republicans control of government, they expand the size of government, they spy on Americans without cause or search warrants, they give taxpayer dollars to churches, they attack sovereign nations unjustifiably, they go above the law and torture prisoners of war, they give trillions to the bankrupt, unionized auto makers, they give subsidies to thousands of special interest groups.
    No republican other than Ron Paul has (Consistently) voted against every unconstitutional bill put before congress. Other than Ron Paul, without exception, every republican politician for the past 30 years has refused to follow the guidelines of limited, non intrusive government.
    I will never back the republican party ever again.
    Fool me once, shame on me.
    Fool me and lie to me and enslave me for 40 years without let up?
    Well republican party.................This middle fingers for you.

    One other thing folks. The latest scandal concerning the republican party started 4 decades ago and has been a continuing soap opera ever since. The illegal, unconstitutional acts of the republican party is the never ending story.It's like a cancer that needs a healthy dose of Radiation.

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  9. Bottomline

    I think that Dr. Paul and a few other Republicans are standing up for real principles and values! Although the latest scandal about the RNC has shakened my vote a bit.

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  10. Ray

    Sorry republicans, if your name isn't Ron Paul, then your name must be Dirt.
    I have watched you republicans lie to me, steal from me, destroy my Constitution and enslave me for the better part of the last 4 decades. I see that you republicans are still in office doing what you are so good at, and that is sitting on your a$$$es while the democrats continue to ram socialism down my throat.
    I sure hope that you republicans don't mind if I respectfully give you the middle finger come the 2010 elections and beyond. There are plenty of Constitutional loving third party Libertarians to vote for if I truly want my vote to count. I'm tired of having it wasted on the shameful dirt bags who call themselves conservatives.
    republicans (With a small "r" ) do not represent limited, small, Constitutional government, so they they sure as hell do not represent me or my Constitution.

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  11. Linda Orf

    I beleive Ron Paul is one of the few Republican's who would actually live up to his promises. One of the things I would like to see is to have an outside, nonpartisan group come into the many levels of bureaucratic layers and do an "efficiency" audit and provide recommendations for where we can cut the size and cost of this incredibly big government. For instance, why would a first lady need over 20 staffers??? I am sure we have many job positions in the government (who WE PAY their salaries) that are totally wasteful and unnecessary. There are many programs that should be cut. It blows my mind sometimes to hear of the money we give to areas that really is just simply NOT within the realm of national government to have their noses in. I'd like to see lobbyists outlawed. I'd like to see term limits because the longer the politician is in office, the more temptation they have for becoming corrupt. I'd like to see tax laws changes to a fair tax to capture all the money that is made "off the books" including money made by prostitutes, drug dealers and anyone not declaring their incomes. I'd like to seee the corrupt men and women in congress actually get prosecuted when they don't pay their taxes - like you and I would be if we do that. I would like to see earmarks OUTLAWED and "deal making " outlawed. And yes, I would like to see Card Check die. When Unions were formed there was a good reason, people were being made to work in unsafe conditions and for unfair wages. Today we ahve the labor board, we have OSHA and we have minimum wage laws. We do not need unions anymore. I would like to see Unions made illegal because they now only serve to drive up the cost of products and services which decreases our ability to compete with trade amongst other countries. And lastly, I would like to see government employees receive the same benefits and pensions that the average private sector receives - no more special pensions and benefits - 90% of wages is a bit much for a pension! Most of us out here are not receiving ANY pensions and need to count on whatever we can save for retirement after the meager social security check we receive. And WE'RE paying for the 90% pensions! Oh yae, this babe is angry at big government and will support any candidate that I beleive will live up to the smaller government promises

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    1. John Diaz

      Excellent historical perspective on the history of Unions and the current climate.

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    2. Fred the Protectionist

      You'd need to amend the Constitution before outlawing unions, this pesky little roadblocked called, "The right to assemble".

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  12. Wil

    Thanks a lot for all your replies to my question
    “What mechanism can be put in place to guaranty free market won’t slip to Corporatocracy? (from http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-03-29/ron-paul-the-right-to-healthcare-is-based-on-theft-and-coercion/), I posted this here as I couldn't post on the old thread anymore, not sure why (may be a bug to solve for the sysadmin)...

    I think I understand much better now

    Here is a very interesting video "Milton Friedman PBS Free to Choose 1980 Vol 1 of 10 Power of the Market"
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2024617864923164175#

    Do not hesitate to post more videos if you find some

    Thanks again

    Wil

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    1. Wil

      More interesting video about Milton Friedman

      http://miltonfriedman.blogspot.com/

      Regards

      Wil

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  13. 1111cb

    The answer is I do not believe the Republicans in general will follow through with their rhetoric. Its an excuse that democrats are the majority. Between the independents, Libertarians, Tea Party, and Coffee Party, etc - the majority of this country is not affiliating itself strongly to a Republican or Democratic party line.

    The acid test- ask any official about to be elected- will they support cutbacks in Medicare to help reduce the deficit and reform the problems or hide behind the "fraud" witchhunt which is code language for the IRS attacking Physicians who cannot understand the complex billing that Medicare workers themselves cannot figure out.

    the debt can never be reduced unless you reform the untouchable items that are political hot potatoes. If they are serious like Ron Paul and take the risk to say the truth, then vote for them. But telling the truth is why he is being attacked by the Republican leadership.

    I do not agree with all Ron Paul has to say, but I believe in check and balances to the presidency. SO - what I look for is someone who will have the courage to be attacked and tell the truth, not just shout rhetoric to rev up crowds and win votes.

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  14. Anti-capitalist

    Screw Capitalism! Screw Socialism! Screw Communism! Screw Facism! Screw The System! We need Anarchism and Freedom For all!!! No gods No Masters, Govern Yourselves, Against All Authority! Destroy Corporatocracy! Destroy Monetarism! Peace and (E)quality for the world! End The Fed!

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    1. longshotlouie

      Mushrooms and Utopia?

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  15. Fred the Protectionist

    Whoah! Barry Goldwater the Libertarian lost badly and that was before 1 out of 3 manufacturing jobs were lost and the middle class was being destroyed by open borders and free trade. Holey moley guacamole:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1964

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  16. Master Blaster

    The answer to the question is, "no."

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    1. Fred the Protectionist

      You have violated the 1st commandment: Thou shalt deviate from primary topic. Shame on you.

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  17. Fred the Protectionist

    Why do the open-border/free-traders hate American products, hate American labor, hate America? That's not right.

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    1. longshotlouie

      Your self hate is not healthy, but we are glad to see that you are getting some overtime.

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      1. Fred the Protectionist

        As if destroying 1 out of 3 manufacturing jobs (and the service jobs that come with it) was bad enough, you want more? Manomanoman.

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        1. longshotlouie

          Still looking for someone to shoulder the burden for you?

          I forget, which kind of socialism do you prefer?

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          1. Fred the Protectionist

            You're calling the founding fathers and every Republican up till the 1920's socialists because the liberally used the Tariff.

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  18. Ben

    Geez Alex, have you ever heard of the straw man argument?

    I never said that Ron Paul campaigned on anti-pork platform. Ron Paul is obviously not anti-pork. He LOVES pork! He'd eat pork for every meal! That much is obvious. The tea parties on the other hand, are firmly against pork. I guess that's because they aren't politicians and they don't have districts. Ron Paul should be on the top of Tea Parties hit list.

    Paul does, however, campign on a platform of limited, constitutional government. He wouldn't even vote for a medal to go to Rosa Parks because it was "unconstitutional"! To hear him tell it, he's trying to get the federal government out of all of the ridiculous things it's gotten its nose into. In other words, he's trying desperately to revive the tenth amendment. Despite his meaningless words to that extent, Ron Paul always makes sure he brings home wasteful projects to his district which have no conceivable constitutional purpose. In fact, all of them would be illegal under the tenth amendment if anyone actually cared about the tenth amendment.

    By the way, "pork" does have a meaningful definiton. Pork is a project that an elected official brings home for the purpose of bringing money into the district, regardless of whether it's needed.

    Also, military spending is actually IN THE CONSTITUTION, unlike the Galveston sea wall which is not.

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    1. longshotlouie

      Mr. Dover, are you having any trouble with earmarks?

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      1. Forest

        Not at all Louie! This is EXACTLY what 'The People' want from their Government - we need Ron Paul to step in and perform Constitutional duties and conduct what free enterprise and free markets cannot do!!!

        Namely, study muscle mass loss in space, the effects of vanadium, recycling hazardous waste, and subsidize low and moderate income housing!

        These are some of the more Patriotic earmarks I saw - PATRIOTIC! The man knows how to spend money:

        $1.92 million for UTMB to study muscle mass loss in aging vs. microgravity (NASA related) at International Space Station National Lab
        $5 million for FEMA to recycle household hazardous waste in Friendswood
        $3.6 million to construct inter-modal transit facility in Victoria
        $2.2 million for City of Bay City for improvements to electrical wiring in low and moderate income housing
        $1.96 million to replace buses in and around Victoria
        $3.5 million for study of health risks of exposure to vanadium

        http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/04/ron_pauls_earmarks_for_fy2009.html

        Government always does what is right!

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        1. longshotlouie

          Yepper, we all know that it would have been spent much more wisely with the Executive Branch.

          Wonder why these crazy people think that they should have any of their money return to their district. Just crazy, huh MattForest?

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          1. Forest

            "people think that they should have any of their money return to their district."

            Or maybe it was other peoples' tax money. Still trying to make it sound like Ron Paul porking vanadium research and electrical rewiring of low income housing into his district sound like a valid expenditure of taxpayer money though!

            Maybe we should FOIA the results of that one. Millions of dollars well spent I bet! Thanks again Ron Paul!

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  19. Fred the Protectionist

    Democrats will most likely remain in control of both houses, were getting a little ahead of ourselves.

    The Republicans have not changed from the job destroying mentality of the open-border/free-trade which got them booted in 2006 in the first place, which means they will lose again and again and again and again. The only thing Republicans have learned was not to say, "They are doing jobs Americans won't do."

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    1. Citizen

      Dear Freddie the P.
      Please take 5 minutes and read a brief about the History of Tariffs in America...
      >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariffs_in_American_history

      Ironically, you argue the Dem position to raise Tariffs to protect American labor, but history records that the Rep were the party of applied Tariffs to protect American capitalists industries.
      But either way, Dem or Rep, tariffs attempt to create a "protected" class, a target group.
      You want to protect both Big Labor AND Big Business, but Tariffs do neither.
      1. Tariff steel imports // and Auto and Railroads suffers
      2. Tariff farm imports // and Monsanto and ConAgra big farms get a windfall
      3. Tariff foreign autos // Government Motors and the UAW get FAT and Americans get poorly made but expensive cars.
      4. Tariff clothing // WalMart still gets rich and Americans pay DOUBLE for their Chinese made dress shirts

      TARIFFS DON'T CREATE JOBS! What part of the historic Tariff record of FACTs don't you comprehend?

      UNIONS have now become the defacto TARIFFs of the 21st Century.
      Unions have created PROTECTED non-compete islands of labor that has bankrupt the Greek government, California is bankrupt directly because of this Protected Class of Union Labor and Pension Plans.
      US Education is 28th in the world because of Protected Union Teachers!
      You want ABORTION CHOICE but not Vouchers for SCHOOL CHOICE!

      So Freddie... how would YOU propose to apply YOUR new Protectionist measures to increase hiring and create industry incentives to invest again???

      How about LOWERING TAXES on BOTH Producers and Consumers and both Producers and Consumers might thrive and have jobs!

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      1. Fred the Protectionist

        "TARIFFS DON’T CREATE JOBS!"

        yes they do. Tariffs create jobs, and free trade destroys jobs.

        Tariffs lower the price of goods to the consumer, and free trade increases the price to the consumer.

        Tariffs promotes liberty, Free Trade promotes socialism.

        War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength. Get it now? Doubt it.

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        1. Alex the Capitalist Pig

          @ Fred the P.

          At this point, I'm pretty sure you're either trolling or trying to be facetious with your pro-tariff nonsense. In either case (or in the event that you actually believe that protectionism is good), you are absolutely wrong and I would advise you to re-read Citizen's response.

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          1. Fred the Protectionist

            Wrong, you free traders are destroying the economy, destroying the middle class, and you are promoting tribalism and socialism.

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        2. 1111cb

          as crazy as it sounds, Fred the protectionist is right. Free Trade is a great ideal, but since many countries do not play fair or treat their citizens fairly, the cheapest goods are produced by countries that are the worst offenders. The Idaho potaoto farmers are almost out of business from countries that use near slave labor, shrimp fishermen are being undercut in this country by shrimp fishermen that steal kids, turn them into slaves and toss the overseas if they complain. Wonder about all the drug recalls? its because they are manufactured in 3rd world countries, few are made in first world countries.

          There is a point Free Trade compromises our ideals and punishes our farmers and industry at home for doing what is right. Do we want a country where all our food is imported and manufactured goods are imported? Where is the self sufficiency in that? That is the biggest national security threat - handing our lives over to unstable countries.

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          1. longshotlouie

            As Freddie does, you have confused 'Free Trade' with free trade.

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          2. Fred the Protectionist

            NAFTA is free-trade, Austrian Ron Paul style of trade is really called economic-suicide.

            While FTA's like NAFTA at least attempts to open up foreign markets via treaty, you Austrian-economic suicide monkeys would lower all trade barriers in America daring every foreign country to increase their trade barriers to the point where their markets become 100% closed, and they would.

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      2. John Diaz

        I disagree with you. 1900's, America grew as a powerful industrial nation, in awe of European leaders like Bismark, the Japanese, and others. If you ever want to make any solid points, don't use wikipedia. It never comprehensivley discusses for/contra arguments.

        In my life in America, I seen the net worth of middle class families dwindle due to globalization. While products are cheaper, so is the the dwindling of American wealth due to loss in businesses and industrial assets. This happened in Argentina and look at the mess it is in. I have small industry and due to regulations and taxes, I could not open up a brand new plant. It has come down to last man standing in America.

        To Citizen - If unionism is a true menace (which I do believe), then the free markets should have dictated what company goes under through pension plans and unnecesarry beauracracy, ie GM. Ford is thriving. Unfortunately Government bailouts prolonged this mess. Yes, the cost of clothing would go up however the net benefit is small apparal stores such as mom/pop stores would now thrive and add value to the economy. The way it is now, only shareholders are benefiting while the rest suffer. I agree that tarriffs should be in place because of this. But that does not mean we still would not have imports due to tarriffs. There would still be competitition.

        To Fred - One thing you forgot to mention is besides lowering taxation, the elimination largely of envormental regulations that make it difficult to open and invest in a new plant. While taxes and regulation is a problem, China is not forced with the same regulations and their products are cheaper.

        This is why largly our currency has weakened because the loss of American Wealth due to Globalization (ie we don't make anything anymore). Our currency cannot be backed up by industrialized wealth and precious metals like it used to be.

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        1. Fred the Protectionist

          "To Fred – One thing you forgot to mention is besides lowering taxation, the elimination largely of envormental regulations that make it difficult to open and invest in a new plant. While taxes and regulation is a problem, China is not forced with the same regulations and their products are cheaper."

          If the Free Traders hadn't cost tens of millions of Americans (of voting age) their jobs, pushing tens of millions of Republicans out of the Republican Party and into the Democratic Party full of Green Commies and socialists, then what you just said wouldn't be an issue.

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  20. Ben

    "Republicans have a bad track record of fulfilling their promises of limited government and personal liberty."

    Among those Republicans is a guy named Ron Paul, who happens to be the pork barrel king of the Republican party. And a signatory to the "unconstitutional" war in Afghanistan.

    Ron Paul should stay far, far away from the tea tarties. I know he'd like to hijack them for his purposes, but there's no way that they'll have any integrity if they allow themselves to be zombified in the Ron Paul mold. Tea partiers should remain firmly opposed to earmarks and firmly opposed to scummy, two-faced, politicians like Patriot Paul.

    This man is the biggest hypocrite the world has ever known. When you request federal funds to repair the Galveston Seawall, you can no longer call yourself an advocate of limited, constitutional government.

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    1. longshotlouie

      R O T F F L M F A O

      Let me guess, Ben 'Rip' Van Winkle?

      You're a Hall of Famer, Rip

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    2. Machine

      What!?!? You mean a politician is speaking out of both sides of his mouth???

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    3. Alex

      @Ben

      Ron Paul has NEVER campaigned or ranted against "pork" (i.e. using your position in Congress to return as much federal tax money to your district as possible). People who whine about pork spending are entertaining because they'll scream about the $2 million B.S. project in district X, but they never seem to notice that we're spending $ 1 TRILLION on our military per year, or that Social Security and Medicare will BOTH be paying out more than they take in within by the end of the decade (or that BOTH trust funds have been emptied out in plain sight).

      "Pork" is a meaningless and absolutely irrelevant political topic that is good for getting the masses riled up without addressing any real, substantial spending issues. And don't get started on the Tea Party movement, with Sarah Palin who has sold everyone out and is laughing at you fools all the way to the bank...

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      1. Forest

        What? So pork is irrelevent? Cognitive dissonance must be such a bitch to live with.

        So when Ron Paul advocates a fervent anti-government platform and then spends millions of taxpayer money to have government agencies study the long term effects of vanadium, shovel tens of millions of dollars to FEMA, subsidize low and middle income housing, installing security cameras in pet housing projects, and $10 million for a city-run NuBlac Youth and community center - that person can be trusted to... be fervently anti-government spending? Sorry, give with one hand and take with the other - he has books to sell to you, speaking fees to collect, and nepotism to encourage.

        Welcome to politics, maybe you will one day see the emperor isn't wearing clothes...

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        1. longshotlouie

          Earmarks = 1%
          Maintaining 'The Global Empire' = 65%

          Not hard to figure out why statists wave their 'earmarks are evil' flag.

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          1. Forest

            Ron Paul spends hundreds of millions of taxpayer money on pork government spending and anti-government Libertarians simply call this wasteful spending call it 'a return of taxes'?

            You afflicted with that nasty disease of Cognitive Dissonance as well, Louie?

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          2. Fred the Protectionist

            To be honest, Ron Paul focuses all his attention on the Jewish controlled Federal Reserve to the exclusion of all other issues, so you can't really call him a hypocrite on pork spending.

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        2. SS

          I picture Forest with oak splinters under his fingernails.
          lol

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    4. 1111cb

      you can read why he persists in earmarks from his own writing.

      (Unlike others who pretend to be against them and still do them, and now to score political points are acting asa block to cut them without addressing the real problems- looks good but does little)

      I personally would prefer he turn them down, but he is unlike other politicians. He has a logical reason for persisting and is not interested in perceptions but truth. So he makes his point his way- fix the real problem- Audit the Fed as a start- not cut earmarks to garner votes from those who don't look behind superficial changes.

      He is willing to sacrifice his commitees leadership positions to make this point- that is real leadership- he is not in office to play political games and be a mindless tool of a political party.

      So who do you want in office?

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      1. Forest

        Are all Ronbots afflicted with cognitive dissonance? It's hard to even unwind your hypocrisy.

        "He is willing to sacrifice his commitees leadership positions to make this point- that is real leadership"

        So let me get this straight, he is so addicted to earmarks he can't even make what you regard as a superficial statement in NOT earmarking socialized pet projects ($1 Million to Judy Jamison for the Gulf States Vibrio Vulnificus Consumer Education Program! My god, how will they do anything for less than a cool MILLION?!?!) for his district, that he is willing to jeopardize his committee assignments?

        http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001646-503544.html

        So if he can't give up his raging pork habit he will continue to be singled out as a flaming hypocrite AND we won't see an aging wingnut ranting about watergate and secret loans to Saddam in Financial hearings?

        WOW! That sounds like a win/win, what leadership!!!!!

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        1. 1111cb

          The Congress for the past 40 yrs has been playing this game of making superficial changes and hiding what is really the problem. Both parties. They count on no one looking past the media message.

          That is who needs to be taken out of power-The leadership thinks we the people are dumb and won't read. So they pick politically sounding great "reforms" that accomplish nothing and year after year our wealth and security disappears.

          This earmark thing is not the real issue, it just looks good and Ron Paul refuses to play. That makes the Republicans look bad because if eliminating earmarks are the fix that they are trying to sell to the voter, them its a problem to have someone like Ron Paul keep doing it.
          We are in a much bigger battlefield than earmark reform.

          I have lots of cognitive dissonance- as much as I dislike Palin and her message, I like her for being independent financially from the powers in charge and messing up their plans. McCain or Clinton were supposed to be President.

          Any uncontrolled voice funded independently from the political parties is a threat to the status quo. And they will discredit, throw out smoke screens, and possibly more to stay in power.

          http://sunlightfoundation.com/resources/

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    5. 1111cb

      http://www.therealgalveston.com/Seawall.html

      repairing infrastructure is one of the best uses of federal funds. If the governors and state governments had used the stimulus money towards projects that prevent Katrina disasters, we would be in better shape as a country.
      Its because the money was handed over to the states with no real accountability (so they thought )that is was used stupidly, but if we check the website and blogs, look up the home state projects, complain to our officials, and kick them out if used stupidly-then there is accountability

      Lets do the real projects that are important for our nation's health and safety that cannot be done on a local level.

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      1. Forest

        "Lets do the real projects that are important for our nation’s health and safety that cannot be done on a local level."

        OK, so 1111cb, I did some homework, here are some pretty shady projects that I would say have a hard time being justified as 'being important for our nations health and safety'.

        I would expect you to now live up to your promise and complain to Ron Paul about his wasteful government spending.

        $19.5 Million: Texas Maritime Academy, Convert a Government Loaned ship into a “mission ready vessel” (Because we DEFINITELY need more military!)
        $12 Million: Community-Based Job Training Program, Spotted Blu Horse, Pay for high-school dropouts to learn technical skills (Socialism anyone? Your tax dollars at work – ok or not at work!)
        $1 Million: Space Alliance Technology Outreach Program, Houston Economic Partnership. (Literally, to educate small businesses about the knowledge and technology of the U.S. Space Program. WTF?!?! NOW WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT ‘”TEACHING” private industry? Wait a minute? How in the hell does the government know something that Free Markets already do? ahhhh, Libertarian cognitive dissonance…)
        $1.5 Million: Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Program, Texas State University. (So $1.5 Mil to train officers to deal with an “active shooter situation”? Shouldn’t that have been part of the initial training? Why is a government agency teaching another government agency again?)
        $3 Million: Energy Resiliency Program (wait, shouldn’t free markets be responsible for energry creation?)
        $350,000: Green Facility Initiative, Brazosport College (what? We want govt building fancy buildings for our higher education now?!?!?)
        $1 Million: Gulf States Vibrio Vulnificus Consumer Education Program, Judy Jamison (WOW! One MILLION DOLLARS!?!?! Tell you what Ron Paul, give me one quarter of that and see what I can do! Give Me a cool HALF A MILLION and i’ll do even better!!!!)
        $1.2 Million: Low-income working families Day Care Program, Growing Minds Learning Academy (So, the government shouldn’t be helping pay for Healthcare for children of poor families that didn’t pay taxes, butttt…. the Government SHOULD BE PAYING FOR DAY CARE FOR FAMILIES THAT DONT PAY TAXES?!?)
        Recon Study of Brazoria County, Texas Coastline. Description (Literally!) given is: “Recon Study of Brazoria County Coastline”. Ummm, $100k to have the government… Find a coastline? Nope, NO PORK HERE!!!
        $8 Million: Rollover Pass Recreational Fishing Piers, Texas GLO. So, now the government is just building piers? Eight million? When is that going to EVER be profitable – wait, maybe we can educate those people (on the Pier the government built for Eight million) about the Vibrio Vulnificus (which taxpayers also dropped a cool Million on)!!! Win/Win!!!!

        http://www.house.gov/paul/fundingrequests11.shtml

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        1. 1111cb

          Thanks Forest- I will follow up- just copied and pasted- but due to my schedule, it will be next week before I can do it

          But these look bad and we should demand answers

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  21. Ryan

    I don't believe the typical Republican for one second, when they say they will use a principaled approach.
    They will not reduce government spending. They will continue with the wars. They will continue to globalize. They will continue to spend like Liberals. They will continue with open borders. They will continue to talk-the-talk, but never walk-the-walk.
    Clean house!
    Vote all new, truly conservative, politicians across the board in 2010!
    And vote for Ron Paul for president in 2012!

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