Warmongering Like It’s 2002: Iran Sanctions Bill Passes 400-11

Ron Paul took to the House floor on Thursday to oppose HR 2194, the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act, and he warned against war propaganda being spread in the House.

Ron Paul’s statement as entered into the record

Date: 4/22/2010


Ron Paul: I thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today the motion to instruct on the comprehensive Iranian sanction bill was passed overwhelmingly, 400 to 11. 11 individuals said that this was not a good idea, I was one of those 11 and I’d like to explain why I think the sanction bill against the Iranians is very, very dangerous and not well thought out.

Sanctions are very serious. Sanctions are literally an act of war. When you prevent certain goods and services going into a country, it’s like a blockade. There’s no advantage to us to do this. The sanction bill literally says that any country that trades or sends oil into Iran, we will no longer trade with them. So if Russia sends in oil or gasoline or refined products, or China does, we are theoretically, under this bill, not to trade with them.

Can you think of anything more chaotic than having a trade war with China at this particular time? So often well intentioned foreign policy procedures backfire, they have unintended consequences, and too often there is blowback.

Today, unbelievably, we are engaged in so many places in the world, and we can’t afford it. Our foreign policy costs us a trillion dollars a year to operate. We’re in a 135 countries, we have over 700 bases throughout the world. We are engaged in military confrontation in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. We’re bombing in Yemen and as well as having surrogates fighting in Somalia.

We’re flat out broke, the policy is driving our enemies into the hands of the Chinese, and here we are, looking for another war! It makes no sense whatsoever. The conversation today was nothing more than war propaganda on why we have to get ready to bomb the Iranians.

There is no proof, according to our CIA, that they’re actually working on a nuclear weapon. Now I’m sure they would like to, why not? Everybody around them have it, so it would be logical that if they’re surrounded and threatened and intimidated with all the people around them, why wouldn’t they want one. Of course they do. But others have it. They have never been found in violation of the non-proliferation treaty; never. And yet Pakistan, India and Israel don’t even belong, and they’re our friends and we give them money. Pakistan gets support from us, they have nuclear weapons, and they have been known to send nuclear technology to North Korea.

So the whole process makes so little sense. The language today was used that we have to go in because of the weapons of mass destruction, they’re going to have missiles and they’re going to attack us. It’s identical to the propaganda in 2002 and 2001 before we attacked Iraq. So the same process is occurring, try to generate all this excitement about the need to use hostilities.

Now a lot of individuals vote for sanctions that are basically anti-war and they don’t like the military option and they think this is an alternative. I think that is deeply flawed thinking, because sanctions lead to hostilities and if you commit to the sanctions you’re really committing to the next step. The sanctions of the 1990s and the year 2000 on Iraq eventually led to the hostilities and the war and the invasion. So what did that invasion of Iraq do? Did we find any Al-Qaida there? No, we found out that Saddam Hussein wouldn’t allow the Al-Qaida there. No weapons of mass destruction. We turned the country upside down. Hundreds of thousands of people injured and killed. We have suffered devastating problems from this. And what has happened? We turned the government of Iraq over to the Shiites who are allies with the Iranians. So that whole policy has actually backfired.

So now what we’re doing to the Iranians is driving them into the pockets of the Chinese. The Chinese are pretty good capitalists these days. They work hard, they produce, they sell us their goods and services. We pay them, they save their money and they’re starting to invest. So they’re investing around the world in natural resources. And what are we doing? All we’re doing is trying to take over the world with natural resources so we have control of oil.

This is a mercantilist idea, it’s ancient, and it takes you back to almost colonial times. So this, I think, shows that our policies are deeply flawed. I sure would have wished this vote would have come out differently and I warned this was a very dangerous vote.


  • Wade Walker

    5 years from now we are going to be watching videos about the hardships faced by Iranian civilians because of this bad decision, then the morons in government will be ringing their hands, languishing why? Oh, why do terrorists not like us?

    This is so stupid I’m not white anymore. These assholes are pretending to be diplomatic when all they are doing is staging false flag justification to overthrowing a sovereign nation and install a new vicious bastard, one who is tolerant to western interests the oil shipping channel.

    The CIA and petty politicians created this situation when they installed overthrew the democratic elected president on behalf of Standard Oil and installed the Shah.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski is behind this, whispering in Obama’s inexperienced ear.

  • fred the protectionist

    Creepy. In True Lies (1994 Arnold Schwarzenegger movie) the agenda of the terrorist in the movie is the exact same agenda of Osama Bin Laden; they want the US out of the middle east.

    Also in one scene an American anti-terrorist task force poses as a cameraman, and then kills a couple of the terrorists similar to how the Taliban took out Ahmad Shah Massoud (Northern Alliance leader killed by a bomb in a camera while doing an interview in 2001).

  • Realistic

    The Controlled Mass Media is Pushing for War on Iran when they know that the Guilty ones for the 9/11 Attack are Honored and Treated as Allies of the USA.

    How Ehud Barak Pulled Off 9-11
    April 28, 2010
    IT IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN that 9-11 was a Mossad operation – period.
    – Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College

    “And how can it be profitable for a person’s immorality to go unnoticed and unpunished? The consequence of a criminal getting away with his crimes is that he becomes a worse person.”
    – Socrates in Plato’s Republic, “Happiness and Unhappiness”
    Ehud Barak, Israel’s defense minister, is currently in the United States for a week of meetings and speeches. He is, in my opinion, the key suspect of being the mastermind of the false-flag terror attacks of 9-11. I am providing this brief article to explain how I think he did it. It should be noted that Barak was Israel’s minister of defense during Israel’s assault on the Gaza Strip in 2008-2009. Based on the findings of the U.N. Factfinding Report written by Justice Richard Goldstone, Barak is responsible for a host of war crimes committed during that assault. The United States and other states are obliged to arrest Ehud Barak based on the findings of that report.

    Socrates point that unpunished criminals become worse is very much the story of modern Israel. The most serious criminals of the Zionist state have never been punished in any meaningful way by the international community – or the United States. This laissez faire attitude regarding Zionist criminals has only enabled and emboldened the most unscrupulous and aggressive criminals to rise to the top of the Israeli government, where they sit today. The criminal audacity of Israel’s leaders is, however, simply not sustainable for the long term because their rampant criminality endangers the Zionist state, its citizens, and even its supporters.

    Zionist Jews and Israelis living in America, for example, may find themselves in a very uncomfortable position when millions of Americans realize that Israel and its supporters are behind the mass murder of 9-11 and the cover-up of the truth, as Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of the Strategic Studies Institute of the U.S. Army War College, has repeatedly warned. It seems to be only a matter of time before this uncomfortable situation becomes a reality. It should be noted that the Israeli prime minister at the time of the attacks was Ariel Sharon, a Zionist extremist and terrorist who believes that American Jews (actually all Jews) should live in Israel. Sharon had a dream that one million American Jews would emigrate to Israel, while in reality more Israelis have chosen to live in America. Was 9-11 designed to force Jews to move to Israel?

    Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak (left) talks with Minister of Pensioner Affairs Rafi Eitan as Prime Minister Ehud Olmert (center) waits to start the weekly cabinet meeting May 25, 2008 in Jerusalem. Eitan is wanted by the FBI for his role as the spymaster of Jonathan Pollard. Olmert was in New York City on 9-11 on a visit that has been kept secret. These three men know very well who was behind the terrorism of 9-11 – and it wasn’t Osama Bin Laden and his band of twenty thieves.
    Ehud Barak was prime minister of Israel from July 1999 until March 7, 2001, when he was replaced by Ariel Sharon. I attended an event at the Chicago campus of the University of Illinois where both Barak, then prime minister, and Sharon were involved, shortly before the election that brought Sharon to power. The fact that Barak and Sharon had travelled to Chicago together illustrated the utter fakeness of their rivalry.

    Previous positions held by Barak include Head of Defense Planning and Budgeting, Head of the Israeli Intelligence Community, Chief of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), Minister of the Interior in Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin’s cabinet, Minister of Foreign Affairs in the Shimon Peres cabinet, and Labor Party Chairman. If Israel is involved in 9-11, as Dr. Alan Sabrosky says and which the evidence strongly indicates, Barak certainly knows all about it.
    When Sharon assumed power in March 2001, Barak came to America. He supposedly came to the United States to work as a special advisor for Electronic Data Systems and as a partner with SCP Partners, a Mossad-run private equity company focused on “security-related” work – but this was merely his cover. His real assignment was to oversee the terror attacks of 9-11. As a partner with SCP Partners Barak was well placed to supervise the false-flag terror operation. The complex false-flag terror attacks of 9-11 required that the mastermind of the operation be in the country to manage the critical details.
    One of the key aspects of 9-11 that Barak needed to arrange was the production and application of an advanced form of super-thermite, an extremely powerful explosive produced using nano-technology. In 2001, SCP Partners happened to have a suitable company in their portfolio, a private company called Metallurg Holdings, Inc., which has its office in Wayne, Pennsylvania. Today, SCP has another company called Advanced Metallurgical Group, N.V. (AMG) in its portfolio. AMG and Metallurg actually share the same phone number and address at 435 Devon Park Drive in Wayne. SCP Private Equity Partners L.P. and its management company named Safeguard International, which controls the metallurgical subsidiaries, are also both based at this address. AMG/Safequard International have several subsidiaries, including one that specializes in the production of atomized aluminum (a crucial component of super-thermite) and others which manufacture specialized coatings of nano-composites.

    Through these companies, SCP Partners, which included Ehud Barak from 2001 until 2007, clearly had the capability in 2001 to produce nano-composite explosives like the super-thermite used to pulverize the World Trade Center on 9-11. There are very few companies or countries in the world that have the capability to manufacture super-thermite, but Ehud Barak’s company did – in 2001. Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaida, on the other hand, could not have anything to do with the super-thermite found in the dust of the pulverized Twin Towers. The government version is a pack of lies designed to excuse a pre-planned war of aggression against Afghanistan. Ehud Barak was the first person to call for the U.S. to invade Afghanistan, which he did only hours after the attacks.

    Chips of super-thermite found in the dust of the World Trade Center by Dr. Steven E. Jones
    Rafi Eitan, the octogenarian Mossadnik who ran a spy operation against the United States using Jonathan Pollard, fled to Israel after Pollard was caught in 1985. Eitan was then offered the position as head of state-owned Israel Chemicals Corporation, which also has production and manufacturing facilities in the United States. In 1978, when Israeli intelligence began planning the false-flag terror operation of 9-11 (according to the documented comments of senior Mossadnik Isser Harel), Eitan was serving as Menachem Begin’s “advisor on terrorism”. This is the real reason that Rafi Eitan remained in the Israeli security cabinet until 2009 – he is one of the architects of 9-11.

    Rafi Eitan was also involved in the 1968 theft and illegal smuggling of nearly 600 pounds of plutonium from a plant in Pennsylvania to Israel for the production of nuclear weapons. As the Pittsburgh Tribune reported in a series of articles about the stolen plutonium, Eitan is the key suspect:
    Four other Israelis visited NUMEC on Sept. 10, 1968, and met with Shapiro [then-NUMEC President Zalman M. Shapiro, a staunch supporter of Israel] to “discuss thermoelectric devices (unclassified),” according to a Sept. 12, 1968, letter from Bruce D. Rice, NUMEC security manager, to Harry R. Walsh, director of AEC security and property management, seeking AEC approval for the visit.
    The four visitors were: Avraham Hermoni, Ephraim Beigon, Abraham Bendor and Raphael (or, Rafael) Eitan.
    In their 1991 book, “Dangerous Liaison,” Andrew and Leslie Cockburn wrote, “At the time of his visit to Apollo in 1968, Eitan was acting as an agent for Mossad on special assignment to LAKAM … a shadowy intelligence agency … born in the 1950s with the express purpose of acquiring nuclear technology by any means.”
    Soon after the men’s visit, 587 pounds of weapons-grade uranium reportedly went missing from NUMEC, according to Udall’s papers.
    In a recent article entitled “America’s Loose Nukes in Israel,” Grant Smith wrote: “To date, all of the uranium-diversion masterminds, financiers, and beneficiaries have escaped criminal prosecution, even as U.S. taxpayers fund a nuclear waste cleanup at the (now defunct) NUMEC Apollo facility.”
    Eitan’s unscrupulous character can be seen in a comment he made to the wife and lawyer for Jonathan Pollard, the captured spy he had managed:
    Eitan told us the only thing he regrets about the Pollard affair is that he did not ‘finish the job’ before leaving the States. We asked him what he meant by this. Eitan replied, “If I had been at the embassy when Pollard came to seek asylum, I would have put a bullet through his head. There would have been no Pollard affair.”
    – Esther Pollard, Maariv, March 30, 2006

    Raphael Hantman a.k.a. Rafi Eitan
    “In principle, when there is a war on terror you conduct it without principles. You simply fight it.” – Rafi Eitan to Ha’aretz, February 19, 2010
    At SCP Partners Barak worked closely with another Mossadnik named Eitan – Yaron I. Eitan. Although Yaron Eitan looks very much like Rafi Eitan, the relationship between the two Eitans is not known. Rafi Eitan was actually born Raphael Hantman in Mandate Palestine to Noah Hantman from Minsk, Byelorussia. Rafi reportedly has three children, named Yael, Sharon, and Yuval.

    Yaron I. Eitan
    Sources and Recommended Reading:
    “America’s Loose Nukes in Israel”, by Grant Smith, April 14, 2010
    “Government agencies investigated missing uranium, NUMEC”, by Mary Ann Thomas and Ramesh Santanam, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, August 25, 2002

    • Simon

      Israel is currently the most dangerous country on the planet.They openly admit that they have hundreds of nukes and missiles aimed at their perceived enemies.

      Both Admiral Mullen and General Petraeus has said that Iran is no threat to anyone. Israel has forced santions on Iran which increases tension for no good reason.

      This issue is far more important than the power and ego of Israel.It is about the survival of the planet. Someone in the US Govt and the Military has to show some leadership soon because Israel is more emboldened by the back down of the Obama Govt over the taking of more land in East Jerusalem.

      We just do not have any leaders of backbone or vision and there lies the real danger.

    • 134679

      totally ridiculous, not one single piece of evidence in there. People have always and will always continue to believe in conspiracy theories because it’s the only way they know how to deal with reality.

      • Machine

        It is all to common for obtuse minded people to dismiss, disregard and discredit those who talk about or suggest theories regarding consperacy. No theory should be disregarded, we should always question the means and the ends, especially when it comes to our government and their affiliated agencies ( C.I.A., F.B.I., N.S.C., D.E.A. etc.). By no means does questioning things suggest being cooky, unpatriotic, or out of touch with reality.

  • Theresa Romano

    Well said.

  • Being embroiled in the affairs of foreign nations is not in the best interest of America or those nations. Our physical presence overseas and the money it takes to keep it there depletes our national security as we try to monitor and police the world. Awareness of global threats is one thing, but trying to predict and avert every possibility is inane and utterly impossible.

    • fred the protectionist

      American interests expand with every export and import, don’t be so naive.

  • shazmichamps

    Dear Mr Ron Paul you are one hundred percent correct in opposing this bill …I only wish, that,if the rest of the corrupt congress had an ounce of your honesty and integrity ,things would have been much different in America today…You are a hero of all the truth tellers,peace loving warriors of this time Sir….May God bless at every turn in life…Thank you for being who you are…

  • Ailine

    Required reading for congressmen and senators : Power Versus Force. Is the intelligence quotient of our leaders on a declining slide? Do they have any original ideas or thoughts that aren’t driven out of pure animal fear? You don’t get power from being fearful and reacting, particularly in a knee jerk fashion. We also haven’t gotten the idea of delegating – we cannot be the entire world’s watchmen. We need the cooperation of all countries involved in participating in keeping the rogue leaders at bay. But don’t punish the people who are trying to dig out of poverty and the clutches of their ruthless leaders. The most powerful people on earth espoused peaceful protesting. Freedom comes from a powerful desire to be free – those people will lay down their own lives for others, much like a parent does for their children. We need to be respectful of that – give them the space and time to gain freedom for themselves. Patience is key.

  • Jack

    I really feel for people like Ron Paul who have thrown their heart and soul into finding workable solutions, seemingly to no avail.It is as though our humanity has taken leave of it’s senses. It is almost a suicide wish. It seems that an elite few will take us to the brink with Congress following like sheep to the slaughter.

    Once a serious conflict begins it is very difficult to stop. I see no great leaders of substance ( with the exception of Ron Paul) who have the respect, judgement,courage or common sense to stop this mind boggling stupidity.

    Israel considers Obama to be a wuss.A push over, who will bend to their will.I have to concur with this perception.It is as though the world is a trance, seduced by the possiblity of it’s own demise, as if it wants to end the pain of conflict in some cataclysmic event.Suicide seems to be the easy option, but we have yet to realise the pain and destruction that will ensue.

    We’ve never had such access to so much information, but seem to know so little.It is a moral and social decline as well as economic. Do we really deserve this planet to want to gamble it’s safety and all life on it, for power and ego?

    I’m at a loss for words.

    • Libertarian777

      the irony, Jack, is that I’ve heard so many people say Ron Paul only criticises and doesn’t present solutions.

      Whereas the reality is Ron Paul doesn’t present solutions that fit in the status quo, his solutions are seen as too ‘radical’, whereas they are actually just plain common sense.

      • fred the protectionist

        No, i’m pretty sure the Libertarians never present any solutions whatsoever.

        They just criticize, “Run! Surrender! Collaborate!”

        • Jack

          Fred, you have a very narrow vision of what libertarian means.Ron Paul believes in true democracy, so if free trade is deleterious to the US economy, then the people will have a voice to change it.

          I don’t agree with a total lowering of tarrif barriers. I would like to see many of these enormous cartels broken up to create more competition.We need rules to make the game of economics fairer.The Govts job should be that of referee and not a player.I think we need international rules of fair play so large Corporates pay people in poor countries a fair wage , so their countries get capital to improve their living standards. If poor countries prosper then we are all better off.

          There is boundless energy on planet, it is just the few who want to use fossil fuels to maintain their stangle hold on the world economy.They are dinosaurs clinging to dinosaur energy.They are fearful that they present power base is evaporating and the easy ride will be over.Well it is just too bad since a new era is arising via the internet, in which sane ordinary people will have more say in their destinies.

          The present system of money being created by debt, is enslaving us all.It is destroying opportunities for education thus real productivity.

          Ron Paul has the basics right.He has never said that he is the font of all wisdom, unlike his arrogant opponents who treat ordinary people with distain.

          • fred the protectionist

            Libertarian say: “I think we need international rules of fair play so large Corporates pay people in poor countries a fair wage , so their countries get capital to improve their living standards. If poor countries prosper then we are all better off.”

            That’s what you free traders claimed would happen in the 1990’s, “Hey we’ll trade with dem and dey will get richer and we’d export stuff to dem.” You know what, they were lying.

  • Matthew Winston

    I’m not really sure what to say in about this one. Let me tell all of you though, Iran is the number one problem in the middle east right now. I’ll tell you also, attacking Iran is not the answer- it would only unify the people being the current regime and waste our own lives and resources. There are two ways out for the poor countries of the Middle East- Eqyptian style modernization and Iranian style resistance. Iran is trying to export it’s own resistance ideology to the rest of the middle east and to all those who cite sunni-shiite differences, that’s not stopping Iran lets just put it that way. Money, people, weapons, preachers, it’s all coming from Iran.

    We cannot just do nothing, so what else can we do aside from sanctions? Sanctions do hurt everyone in Iran, but the regime also suffers too, as sad as it sounds, sanctions are all we can do. The second someone figures out something better, I’ll be listening. The point of my post is don’t think Iran is an overblown threat, they are the equivalent of the USSR 40 years ago in the middle east right now the regime in Tehran is evil.

  • Sincerus

    War on Drugs
    War on Terrorism
    War on Poverty
    War on Illiteracy….America’s economy is a war economy. Not a “manufacturing” economy. Not an “agricultural” economy. Nor a “service” economy. Not even a “consumer” economy.

    It’s the best Democracy money can buy! Sarcasm intended.

    • fred the protectionist

      “America’s economy is a war economy. Not a “manufacturing” economy. Not an “agricultural” economy. Nor a “service” economy. Not even a “consumer” economy.”

      Well you can thank the Open-Border/Free-Traders for that.

  • jim

    Growing up I never really saw the need in the right to bear arms. I do now. It’s sad to say but it seems the only way congress is going to listen. The neo-cons like Cheney just keep winning.

  • Cannabis Smoka

    The majority of Americans don’t want to be fighting the wars were in right now, So how the hell could Congress just vote to invade Iran? Congress is suppose to represent US the people, apparently only 11 members of congress found this to be a bad idea?! 11? Who the hell are these people, looking for another meaningless war? These carreer politicians are suppose to be smart in politics, can’t they see what was the main reason for our economic collapse in the 1st place? Mass Spending over seas, Maintaining our U.S Imperialist Empire, Nation Building, the Elitist Agenda is what is ruining our country and this is why we need Ron Paul in office, he isn’t a Corporatist like any of the other usual candidates, He is a Peoples Man who stands for our Freedoms and the Constitution. We supporters of Ron Paul need to do our part and make sure our voices will be heard in 2012, do all that you can, inform others because knowledge is power and we know we can take our country back in 2012! Get up, Stand up.

    • Call To Freedom

      #1 Congress does not represent us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. If it serves to understand deeper, follow the money.

      #2 These politicians are not smart. Even if they are, they all have tunnel vision. They have objectives, and their actions serve to fulfill their objectives. If it serves to understand their objectives deeper, follow their programmed ambitions.

      #3 If the controllers allowed Ron Paul to run for president without influence, he would win in a landslide. This is likely why we will not see a Ron Paul 2012 Presidency run.

      #4 If you want #1, #2 and #3 to change, stop watching main stream media. Find a fleet of trusted, well-credited independent journalists that blog on the internet and get your news from them. Stop being appalled by #1, #2, #3. This shuts down the critical thinking of the receiver. Rather inform how it is without judgement.

    • Rasta Cannabis

      Cannabis Smoka: True word, that.

      Time now for all people, especially in the U.S., to GET UP, STAND UP, STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHT – your right to representation, especially.

      I hope everyone will write letters of support to those 11 Reps who voted against this next-step towards more WAR.

      We don’t need no more trouble. What we need is LOVE … which will bring working together for job creation, helping the sick & needy, education for youth, housing for elders.

      Instead of listening to The People, these crooks in congress (paid by The People), march towards MORE WAR.

      War up north, war down south. War in the east, war in the west. Everywhere is war! No! No! No! There’s so much trouble in the world. Nations war against nation. Time to stop this madness.

      We can’t afford more war. We don’t believe in more war. We have no right to wage war on Iran – or anyone else. We TRUE Americans believe in peace, justice and livity – for everyone on the planet.

      Here’s the result of the vote for sanctions against Iran:
      OPPOSING the sanctions, seven Democrats,
      Baird (WA),
      Moore (WI),
      Baldwin (WI),
      Blumenauer (OR),
      Kucinich (OH),
      Waters (CA) and
      McDermott (WA),
      and four Republicans,
      Flake (AZ),
      Jones (NC),
      Paul (TX) and
      Duncan (TN).
      Three others, Reps. Lee (D – CA), Stark (D – CA), and Ellison (D – MN) voted “present.”

      All other Representatives voted for sanctions.

      Now the issue moves to the Senate. While we hope for a different result there, the “leader” of the majority in the Senate, Harry Reid (D – NV) promised to move quickly on the sanctions, declaring that the time for diplomacy was over and that Iran is a “festering sore in the world” that has to be punished.

      However, it’s congress that’s the real festering sore and needs to be disinfected, cleaned out. They don’t get it … we don’t want no more trouble. Rather than more war-mongering, We the People call on congress to do their job. Stop the wars. AND, do what you’re charged to do under the Constitution – audit the federal reserve bank, and coin money for the country rather than illegally delegating the job to this foreign bank.

      Call & write Senators, tell them to vote against further war mongering.

      Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!

  • Brian Lull

    What is wrong with our country? Sanctions against Iran? Sanctions are a pre-cursor to war and have been throughout history. Didn’t we just march down this road 7 yrs ago with Iraq and WMDs? Now the House passes a sanctions bill by a margin of 400-11. There were no WMDs in Iraq, and Iran cannot produce a weapon. This is a fact. They are no threat. And to blow up Israel? Check the map. Israel and Palestine are meshed together. To set a nuclear bomb off in Israel would also decimate Palestine, which is populated primarily by Shiite Muslims, just like Iran. Besides, Israel’s problems are not our problems. The people running our country are morons, plain & simple. But I wouldn’t expect anything less from the Baby Boomers. After all, they ate their own during Vietnam. So scare the public with propaganda, anything to feed the military-industrial complex.

    I’ll leave it at this, and this is what absolutely pisses me off the most. All the comments to the media’s “Scary Iran Stories” always revolve around American’s calling for us to go invade Iran. Now, last time we pre-emptively struck two countries (because yes, we pre-emptively struck Afghanistan and it was wrong if you actually read how events transpired and how we as a nation rejected diplomatic options that were available regarding the hand-over and prosecution of Osama bin Laden) not only did we conduct these wars in a less than satisfactory manner and begin to nation-build, but it’s nine years later and still no end in sight. We are not close to leaving Iraq, as much as the Administration would like to say we are. There are still 98,000 troops there now. In my book, that’s not leaving a country.

    Now, like I was saying, the dangers are this: the Soldiers need a break, the families need a break, and we don’t have the money. Another war will tank our economy. We will be burning dollar bills because the Fed will pay down the war debt the way all wars are paid for – through currency inflation.

    But above all, and this I wish I could say to every individual whose comments I read, calling for us to attack Iran and stop them from getting nukes. And I’ll say this as politely as I can. But I believe that the people hiding behind their computers, if they really want to go to war, ought to stop acting like a bunch of pussies, go to their recruiter, and come join the party. Then let me ask you how happy you are after two deployments that last longer than a year each. So stop the chit chat and come on over if you’re so fast to go to war.

    I’m reading a book now. And all wars destroy economies. Absolutely destroy economies. After Napoleon ravaged much of Europe, there wasn’t war for a hundred years, from 1815 till WWI. People traded freely between countries and things were peaceful. War is caused when you try to restrict people from free-trade. War is caused by ideas like socialism, totalitarianism, imperialism, and communism. You restrict people, they become happy, and eventually war breaks out. That’s just the way it is. When will the United States learn this? Stop the sanctions, stop this warfare/welfare state, and let the people be free. Let us be free.

    • Free Yourselves

      Everything is this post is 100% accurate. However:

      #1 The United States doesn’t need to “learn” that sanctions lead to war. They already know this. Their actions are by design. The politicans may be morons, but those controlling them are not.

      • Brian Lull

        I completely agree. And Simon stole my entry and re-posted it. Spread the message and hopefully in the future we can win the war of ideas. Besides, it’s hard to argue against facts. So if people truly want freedom, they’ll come to their senses. Hopefully Ron runs in 2012. Even if he doesn’t win, it’ll give him a chance to get in the debates and school the world once again. Watching the debates last election cycle, it was like watching the Miss America Pageant with some of the responses the candidates had. The only one who brought up the fundamental arguments was Ron Paul. He didn’t just let America know how a problem came to be, but he told us how we could fix it. And that’s what separates him from the field. He truly is a citizen statesman and an educated man who understands cause and effect.

  • Wong

    What is the urgency? Japan entered the 2nd World War because of trade embagos and fear of not having a fuel supply. China gets 12% of it’s oil from Iran and 28% from the rest of the Middle East. I don’t think that Congress has thought this through. It raises tension in the Middle East with the GFC still raging.Have we learnt nothing from history?

    War is only the solution for an elite few.This could easily spin out of control.Iran is no threat to the USA or Israel.Would it not be better send in weapons inspectors and find out the truth?

    All we are doing is increasing tensions and forging stronger alliances between Russian and China that are against our interests.This is just more insanity.

    • Free Yourselves

      The congress is not paid to think. They are paid to vote.

      Congress does not understand nor heed history. Those who guide congress know full well the lessons of history; they know exactly what they are doing.

  • F

    No, no nukes are needed.

  • Citizen

    Sadly its Politics as Usual in America.

    The abstaining 11 votes were the voices of reason for America’s sanity.

    America is hardly in position, economically, to micro manage another nation building war.

    American is burning and Obama is fiddling.

    FRED…. Where are you? We need Protection! HELP!!!

    Nuke the FED not Iran

  • F

    I agree, another war is not wanted by most people. So go to bed and wake up with the same single thought: not another war.

    Follow it with another priority ‘prayer’, the economy system needs to begin recovery now and must be independant of wars and ensure retirement money and benefits are not wasted.

    Take the industries associated with wars, other than weapons, like cloth, boots, food, computers and electronics, medicines and medical equipment and set them back at each country for basic care of each country and to create millions of jobs for basic income of the now unemployed. Develop old and new towns in the country side where returning military personnel and their families can recover and have acces to schools, farms, hospitals.

    That would allow the current medical therapies for veterans to work or be improved where REALLY needed.

    • P

      Your vision is a most beautiful prayer in and of itself as well as a procatical solution that would benefit all

  • mjd

    Starting another war in Iran will spell the end for this country. You can be sure the resulting spike in energy prices will put this economy into one last downward spiral that it will never get out of. If you think things are bad now, you haven’t seen anything yet.

  • He’s right it’s 2001 and 2002 again, we are going to make another sanction against another country and treat them like Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran is not capable of producing weapons of mass destruction. & now this administration like the previous one wants to wage a third war. & I send my hats off to those 11 brave members of congress especially Dr. Paul for doing the right thing by voting against this meaningless sanction. This is another reason why Dr. Paul should run for president.

  • I can’t believe only 11 members of Congress had common sense this time around.

    Almost 50% of them had it right during the health-care vote, but what happened here?

    Now Ron Paul NEEDS to run for President, before the administration throws us into another needless war.