Ron Paul in Iowa: Freedom is the Answer!

Ron Paul kicked off the Campaign for Liberty’s Iowa Conference with a powerful speech Friday night.

Transcript

Ron Paul: Thank you. Congratulations. Of course. Thank you. Thank you very much. It’s very nice to be here. I wasn’t sure I was going to get here a little while ago. I don’t know if they told you, but the plane was a little late. We were supposed to land here at about 6:30 or so, but we got on the airplane alright; that’s not too unusual. Getting through security, that’s the toughest part. I did that again, like I do it twice a week. But we got through that and we got on the plane alright, and it looked like we were going to go, and then the announcement came, they said, “Well, we got some bad news. We’re overweight.” What are we going to do? Why don’t you take some gasoline off or something? They said, “No, we have to get 9 people to leave the airplane. We need some volunteers” and they’re going to give 400 bucks so my hand went up right away. 400 bucks, I mean, just to get off the airplane. But no, I thought better of it and I thought I had an obligation and I wasn’t going to cave in for 400 bucks. But then they said, “Nobody volunteers, so we’re going to pick 9 people and they’re going to have to go”. I wondered how they’re going to do that. They said they’re just going to pick them. And lo and behold, my name comes up and I said, “What’s going on here?” So I had to pay 400 dollars to get somebody else to bribe them, and that guy got 800 dollars. That’s not exactly true, but…

Anyway, we sat for an hour or so and we made it in here. It’s so nice to see everybody, and it’s so good to understand things are happening in the Republican Party out here. That’s pretty neat. I’m so glad there is an influence. But the freedom movement is alive and well, and Campaign for Liberty is alive and well and doing quite well around the country. So to me it’s very exciting.

And I don’t know if you’ve heard about it, but I have a personal interest in and election coming up soon down in Kentucky. I can’t talk about that, because I wouldn’t be very objective about that race down there. But if you try to be objective, it’s pretty interesting and it’s pretty good and it’s going to have a lot of significance no matter what they try to say about it. Rand’s doing very well. In the last poll – which was not his poll, it was an independent poll – he was up 16 points. So it is pretty amazing. But most individuals don’t believe it can be that good and it will be a lot closer, but we have 5 children, that means Rand has 4 siblings and we’ll be there on Tuesday. My wife will be going up with us there. So we’re hoping that it’s going to be an exciting evening and there will be a celebration and another message will be sent across this country that we’re ready for some changes.

I think one of the most remarkable things going on today is that the speeches are different, the promises are different. Now it’s almost a political negative to say, “I know somebody in Washington. If I can get elected, I’m going to make sure I can take care of the district and get your stuff and get all the goodies and get your earmarks.” It’s almost the opposite now; you don’t even want to be associated with Washington DC or bragging that they know how the system works.

And I think something has happened here in the last year or 2, because over the years as most of you have known, I’ve taken a rather firm stand about not voting for things that aren’t properly authorized in the Constitution. Even though that was not mainstream politics in Washington, I think subtly many of them respected those views, because so often other members would come up to me and say, “You know, this is amazing that you can do this and get re-elected, how do you do that?” But now it’s mainstream; we’re getting to be mainstream. It’s better now not to promise, to promise to go up and cut spending and cut taxes and cut regulations. No more deficits. This is what’s become popular. So there is every reason for us to be optimistic about what’s happening. Not what’s happening in Washington yet, but optimistic about what’s happening outside of Washington in groups like this, because our numbers are growing; there is no doubt about it. And of course, I’ve said so many times, and continue to be enthusiastic about going to the campuses, because the young people are certainly interested in this.

Yesterday or the day before, I was walking out of my office to vote, and there was a group of teenagers out in the quarter of the Cannon building, numbering 20 or so. But several of them recognized me and one ring leader, who really knew me and was enthusiastic, came over and introduced himself and he looked so young. But I asked, “How old are you?” he said they’re 17, they’re juniors and seniors in high school, and they wanted to talk about the issues. I asked, “Well, how did you get interested?” He said, “Well, I read your book on End the Fed.” And they knew about the Federal Reserve and they knew what was going on and there is no way I would have had the vaguest knowledge about what was going on when I was a senior in high school. I was trying to get good grades and trying to win a track meet and swim and things like that. But I didn’t know anything about politics. But the young people – there’s always large number of them – are really responding favorably and we should be very excited about that.

I guess the issue that has surprised me the most over these last couple of years has been the issue of the Federal Reserve and how much attention we’ve gotten. It’s something that I’ve been motivated about for many, many years. It was that event in 1971 when the prediction by the Austrian economists back then predicted that the Bretton Woods agreement couldn’t last, it wouldn’t last, it would collapse. I remember reading Henry Hazard prior to that time, and he was a prominent journalist in 1944 when Bretton Woods was established. He said it wouldn’t work. And when it collapsed in 1971 it was sort of a confirmation of how bad things were.

But that was when I became fascinated and thought, “Oh I need to talk about that this, this is important stuff”. And so I started talking about it and then had a token race and did it politically thinking that was the only place I can get a couple of people to listen. And there were only a couple of people at the beginning for many, many years. But even over those many years, decades literally, it was not an issue. It’s not been an issue until just recently. And I think that several things have come together. Some people give the presidential campaign a little bit of credit for calling attention to this issue. That’s part of it, but there’s more to it than that.

One, I think it’s the subtle education going on in Austrian economics throughout the country in places like the Mises Institute. Teachers like Tom Woods and others out there are reaching people. So that has laid the groundwork for this. But then, on top of that, the economic collapse came, the financial crisis hit. It hit and although they will not recognize it in Washington, it was recognized by so many others that this was a predictable event. It annoys me to no end, because they have another commission to study how this came about; another Washington commission. They did that in the 1930s, it was called the Pecora commission. Some people call this the second Pecora commission. But they have Republicans and Democrats to have it balanced. But they don’t have it balanced because they’re all Keynesians or socialists on the commission. And everybody they bring before the commission to ask them questions, it’s all the same. They’re not calling and talking to the people who knew it was coming, predicted it and understood it.

But nevertheless, the information is getting out there and the people are waking up and they know there’s another option. And I think that is part of what’s going on in the Tea Party Movement and the various groups and obviously the Campaign for Liberty, because something has to give. And the people are recognizing this, on this financial burden, this spending. I mean how long can we do this? And, you know, it was not hard to figure out that we got into this crisis because the government spent too much money, they taxed too much, they borrowed too much, they regulated too much, and they printed too much money. So they finally admit, it comes down to our heads 2 years ago. People panicked, “Oh, we’re going to have a depression, we got to do something. This is drastic, let’s do emergency legislation” So what did they do? They increased taxes and they increased regulations and they increased spending, they increased borrowing and they tremendously increased printing the money. And that’s supposed to be the solution to the problem.

But it’s not going to work, I’ve been saying in all the interviews that it’s not over. The correction hasn’t occurred, it’s just delayed it. And now it’s being transferred internationally with the debt burdens of the sovereign nations of Europe. But my biggest concern has been that everybody depends on the United States and the dollar to bail out everybody. So yes, we’re involved in this bailout, obviously, with the IMF funds as well as our transfer of payments to other central banks and other governments. So we’re very much involved. But what happens when the world loses confidence in the dollar? Who’s going to bail out the dollar, and there’s nobody left? And it wasn’t that many years ago when the dollar was rather weak. In 1979 we actually went to the IMF to prop up our system and our dollar. But we pulled ourselves out of that nose dive with interest rates up to 21%. So there will be a major problem to deal with. And I think it’s getting awfully close.

Now, I talk about a monetary crisis being somewhat different than a financial crisis. When the financial structures of the banks get over-involved in too much debt, then they have to do something about that. But a currency crisis happens when people lose confidence in the currency. And most of us can remember and have read about how many times… you know, not too long ago the country of Zimbabwe had a little bit of inflation. And Mexico has had it a few times, and Germany’s had it. America’s had it in the revolutionary times, as well as having pretty bad inflation during the civil war. So it’s a well known event, but it’s really devastating. But the main reason why it’s so devastating is it wipes out the middle class. The people who work hard and try to save and have some wealth, and everything gets wiped out of their accounts rather quickly because it moves so fast.

Now up until now it’s been moving more in a sluggish manner. You know, we as a people, our Congress established the Federal Reserve in 1913 to give us a stable currency (that was the argument), and to be the lender of last resort. Now how are they going to give you a stable currency and be the lender of last resort at the same time? Well, at that time the dollar was 1/20th of an ounce of gold, that was the definition. $20 bought an ounce of gold. So they’ve done a tremendous job. Today it’s probably like $1250, so that’s almost a 99% devaluation that they’ve pulled off. And what happens now if it keeps going and it goes rapidly, it will be very chaotic. And a lot of people suffered from this already. In the last 10 years, if you just start in the year 2000, from that period of time until now there has been an 80% devaluation. In the early part of the 1970s when they had fixed exchange rates, they had 2 precise devaluations: one at 8% and one at 10%. It was 18%. And I remember those days, because that was the time it was declared that the Bretton Woods agreement couldn’t be upheld. But those were very big events and that ushered in rampant inflation in the later part of the 1970s.

So I think we are destined to do this to move ourselves into that category, but the government says – you hear it all the time from the liberal economists, “There’s no inflation, we can do what we want, you guys worry too much.” Oh yeah, there’s no inflation in the cost of government at all. There are no costs going up there. There is no inflation in the cost to get medical care. There is no inflation in the cost to get an education. It’s constantly going up, and yet we still haven’t seen the worst part yet.

This is a subject that is not going to go away. But how do we solve this and what do we do? Well, for us in this room, I think most of us know and understand what has to be done. It’s sort of now how do you accomplish it. And that’s where we’re very much involved. To me it involves a lot of education, continued education. I think education is probably the most important thing. And then there are some of us that like to take the education and understanding our free market economics and try to translate that into a politically popular movement, and get people to understand it in a practical way.

And I think that’s the job that Campaign for Liberty is both educational and also an organization involved in partisan politics. And I think that’s necessary. Nobody can say I’m not interested in politics, I’ve be doing this for a long time. But I still say that education is at the top of the ladder. Because prevailing attitudes and ideas make all the difference in the world. Because since the 1930s it didn’t matter whether you had Republicans or Democrats. Oh yeah, a little bit here and a little bit there, but did it really change the people’s attitude about Keynesian economics or the Federal Reserve or getting rid of the income tax? So I would say, this go around when we clean up this mess, let’s make it very, very clear what we don’t want anymore. Like we don’t want the Fed and we don’t want the IRS and we don’t want the federal government bearing down on us every single day.

So I think right now we live in very opportune times to get our message out, because of the conditions, the groundwork laid by the people in education, and the people being energized. I am convinced that people now are looking at what we’re talking about because they know this system is broken and they are looking for answers. And even those who are on the receiving end of this big government, they’re frightened too, because they know this can’t continue. And what we must do is not only convince all those who believe strongly in limiting government to its constitutional size, we also have to start nibbling away at those people totally dependent on government.

And sometimes it’s a lack of understanding, and sometimes they actually believe that they are entitled, that rights means entitlements. And just the government was supposed to give it to us, “Oh yeah, you mean the Constitution limits these functions?” – “No, the Constitution is a living, breathing document and therefore we’re allowed to do this.” And those individuals in Washington are really following their oath of office. We have to re-educate them along that line, and we have to this opportunity. But for me it also gives us an opportunity to take the whole picture and put it together, because we have to bring people together on these views on how to do it. How do we get back to a balanced budget? They say, “Oh yeah, we’re going to cut child healthcare, that will do it.” And that’s not a good political idea. Even though we shouldn’t have started all this government medical care and all in education, I am still convinced that if we ever want to build a coalition with others outside our group, I think what we have to do is cut spending overseas. It is so much easier to cut.

So we not only could save a couple of million or a couple billion or a couple hundred billion, we could probably save many, many hundreds of billions of dollars even up to the trillions because already in Iraq and Afghanistan we’ve spent over a trillion dollars. We spend a trillion dollars a year just managing our military empire around the world. And that’s coming to an end and if we have to have priorities, I think that would be the easiest and best. Besides, I am absolutely convinced if we change our foreign policy, we’re going to be a lot safer for it; we will not be in danger.

Randolph Bourne’s statement that “War is the health of the state” is such a true statement because when there is a war, there is a declared war, even if it’s not legally declared. “Oh yes, we’re at war on terrorism, war on drugs, war on this.” People get trapped in this and say, “Oh war, it’s an emergency. We have to be more willing to give up our freedoms”. And notoriously they have done it. The big problem with this so-called war going on now is there is no end to it. In the past they’ve undermined our liberties, whether it was the Civil War or World War 1 or World War 2, just think of what they did to Japanese Americans and concentration camps. At least they closed those down afterwards and they backed away from some of the worst things that they did in World War 1. But this war is going to go on forever unless we change our foreign policy. And you know, sometimes they accuse us of getting too close to people who believe in conspiracies. But my answer to that is, “Don’t believe in that conspiracy stuff unless it’s true.”

But what I really want to say about conspiracies is that they have a conspiracy, they have this conspiracy that they’ve been passing out ever since the last administration, that “they attack us because we’re free and wealthy.” That’s why they attack us. Now that’s a conspiratorial idea, and if we don’t change that, we can’t win this. Because I don’t believe for a second that’s the reason they come. Do they come because of our culture and because of Hollywood? Yeah, they probably resent it. There are probably a few of us in this room that might resent a few things that come out of Hollywood. But they didn’t go and bomb Hollywood. They went to the Pentagon and they go to CIA overseas and they kill the people they at least think are trying to take over their country and they see them as occupiers.

That information to me is so crucial and yet it’s tricky because people get accused, you know. When you hear me talk like this they say, “Oh he’s one of those ‘blame America first’ people”. You know, I’m not bashful in blaming our government for the same thing, but I’m not going to blame the American people for this problem. We also should be very concerned about what is done here at home. Not only have we had these wars, but we’ve had this attack on our civil liberties at home. I never believed there would be a day when it would become official policy – and that’s actually official policy made worse by Obama because Bush never announced it this way. I can understand why they might do this, but to announce it as policy disturbs me. And that is that if you are an American citizen, that doesn’t make you immune from assassination. You know, just because its trouble getting you into a court, someday we could assassinate an American citizen. “Well, because he’s a terrorist.” But how do we know he’s a terrorist? He’s a suspect. And we are on a slippery slope on that. I mean, we have secret prisons and we have lack of respect for Habeas Corpus.

And I was just reading something today which I thought was interesting. This John Walker Lynn was the American citizen who was captured right after 9/11 in Afghanistan. To me, he looked a little … I bet he was the last one to have heard about what happened on 9/11; that’s what I think about him. I think we all knew it before he did. But anyway, they arrested or they captured him. And you know what they did? They read him the Miranda rights. They brought him back here and they tried him in a civilian court and sent him to prison. So what’s this hysteria about protecting our rights? Yes, some of these people are monsters, they’re terrible. But so are some of these mobsters in our country that kill and shoot people.

I mean, what if you find somebody in a store, he’s on a video, and he shoots somebody. Of course, he deserves the full force of the law thrown at him. But we still take him to court. And I don’t like this idea because the definition of somebody who is un-American or supportive of the terrorists can get pretty sloppy at times.

And then we have the war on drugs and all the terrible things that go on there that they use to violate our civil liberties. And too often these events, like the war on drugs and others and even the things going on at the border, I think a lot of it is directed at us to know what we’re doing financially. I think it’s the IRS to make sure you haven’t sent $25 overseas and didn’t report it to the government. That’s what they’re worrying about. But, you know, we really do have a mess on our borders and it’s a complicated mess because we have the illegal aliens coming in and we have the drug dealers on the borders. It’s getting very violent. There is a lot of corruption on both sides of the border, and a lot of killing going on. And I think it’s going to get a lot worse and there is no easy solution for this, it’s not like just putting the army down there is going to solve the whole problem. Because as much as I support tightening up and watching what illegals do, I think it’s an economic problem. I think it’s related to economics because the welfare state encourages a lot of our people not to work and then the welfare state feeds on the illegals who come in and they do work. And then they bring their families and they get in our schools and they get on the programs and then we go into a recession and it really gets painful. And that annoys a lot of us, it annoys me big because we have to close down hospitals and school districts are going bankrupt. So this notion that the solution is amnesty and automatic citizenship for these people doesn’t make any sense at all to me.

So it’s hard to deal with the borders without dealing with the economy, and it’s hard to deal with it without dealing with the drug war, and it’s hard to deal with it without dealing with enforcing our laws. I don’t like this idea that we punish people who happen to associate with an illegal. There are a lot of people coming into this country and they’ve been here for 20 years and they’ve never left this country and they don’t even speak Spanish. I mean, to round up 12 million of them and send them back, I don’t know how that’s going to happen. But we should do something about the borders. Now the one thing that bothers me about the borders and what’s happening now is it is regulating us just as much as it’s failing to regulate those that are coming in. Where can you go now without a passport? You can’t go to Canada. I lived on both borders and we causally went to Canada. I was at school in Detroit and we just went to Canada whenever we felt like it. I don’t what we did, showed our driver’s license or something. Mexico was the same thing. No more, now we carry our passports and there are already strict currency controls on how much money we can take or send out of the country and when this currency crisis gets worse, then the governments really crack down because people have a tendency to want to expatriate and go out.

You know, one time I was told that the line that you draw between a free society and a totalitarian society is can you leave your country with your money. And when you can’t do that, you don’t live in a free society anymore. And I don’t think it’s very easy, they don’t want you to do that. Now I have never been tempted to do that. I think, though, that everybody has to have the right to do that because if you don’t have the right to do that, that’s what we ought to be thinking about doing it.

And right now we’re tightening borders up, but I think in the wrong way as much as anything. But we have a lot on our plate, a lot of things that we have to do. But our opportunities are obviously very, very good. Our philosophy can answer the questions, very simply, even with our imperfect Constitution, because I never consider it a perfect document. But it’s been around a bit and it’s probably one of the best ever, if that not the very best written. But I do know one thing, that if we had enough people in Washington who would take that oath of office seriously and follow it, this country would be improved a lot and in a short period of time.

The other thing about the philosophy of liberty is that – I’ve said this many times too – and that is, it’s appealing. If we can present this the right way, it is appealing to more than just us in this room. It appeals to people who considered themselves as one time just extreme conservatives or even liberals believing in civil liberties. Honest liberals who believe in limited government in a personal way or maybe will share our views on foreign policy, we can bring people together. I am absolutely convinced that freedom does bring people together. It is the way you bring diverse groups together, by saying, “Yes, your life is your own. You can do with it what you want, and the government shouldn’t be telling you what you do with it. The restrictions are you just can’t hurt people. But in addition to that, you ought to have the right to do whatever with what you earn. Whatever you earn is your right. So you should have economic liberty and personal liberty and they should be one and the same.”

It’s taken many centuries for the principles of liberty to be developed. I believe with our revolution, the industrial revolution we saw the real benefits come out, the tremendous increase in wealth and production and standard of living going up. But, you know, it’s been around for a long time. In the Old Testament the Israelites talked about not having a king and having too strong a king and then, of course, there was a Roman Republic that was destroyed by the Roman Empire. They talked about personal liberties and the importance of citizenship. And, of course, there was a struggle in 1215 by the barons to insist that King John sign the Magna Carta and recognize that every individual has the right to be told why the king and why the government is holding him. This seems to be slipping away. And when I see some of these things happening in this very country, this is a dangerous, dangerous thing.

Another great danger I think we face – and this was established in the last administration and carried out in the current administration – and that is that we now, as a people, endorse preventive war. That’s the same as saying we endorse aggression because we’re the good guys and we’ll go and push ourselves on them. We have to reject that notion of preventive war.

So so much of what we talk about is not brand new. It’s been around for many, many years. But the real experiment of the last couple hundred years has shown what it can achieve; and that is the material prosperity. What I believe has happened is that the material prosperity of our maximum freedom that we had enjoyed for so long, taught the American people to get really lazy about thinking about where the wealth came from. And we drifted over to thinking the government created the wealth, and the government takes care of us, and it was more important to pay for lobbyists than to pay for R&D research by our corporations. And there’s been so much wealth and there still is a lot of wealth that it lasted a lot longer than it maybe deserved. The truth and the belief in freedom has practically vanished for so many people in Washington. But now we’re starting to see the consequence of not having an understanding of liberty, not understanding what the rule of law is all about, not understanding about restraining the government. The Constitution was there to restrain the government, never to restrain the people.

So we now face this crisis, this crisis and the understanding of liberty. And the making sure that in the maximum number of people the prevailing attitude becomes that of liberty. Now you might say, “Well, this is a small group. We have several hundred here. But we need millions and millions.” The truth is you really don’t. You just need a lot of energetic people determined to win and they have to be in places of leadership. They can be in teaching, and they can be in journalism, and they can even get into the Republican Party and be leaders, too.

People will respond. Most people will never be in that leadership position and they will go along. But they need to be convinced it’s in their best interest. That’s the only thing. For too long now, since the Depression, people have been convinced that it’s in their best interest to go along with big government and Keynesian economics and all this. But it’s ending. It’s all over. And we’re going to see this crisis get worse and we’re going to see a dollar crisis and when it hits the dollar, it’s going to be a worldwide event. And then it will be one big issue: Are we going to live in a free society, or are we going to allow the authoritarians to take over? Are we going to allow them to expand their authority over us as individuals? Allow them to take over more of the economy and actually pretend that they can police the world? That will be the challenge. But I am more optimistic than ever, since I’ve been doing this for quite a few years, that we can win this. We can win this if we continue to build the momentum.

I actually was very shocked at the attention we got in the presidential campaign. I didn’t know all of you were out there and you were interested. I didn’t know the young people would respond. But even then I became a little bit pessimistic after it was over. I thought, “Well, I’ll just go back to being a congressman.” And yet the momentum with Campaign for Liberty, what John has done with the Campaign for Liberty and all of you who have been involved and all the staff and just what’s happening in the country in the enthusiasm I see with these young people… it’s there, and it’s growing.

Now there is one thing that I am very, very pleased with, that there is so much positive conviction with the young people and even though, like tonight I talk about all the things I think are wrong, and so many of them say, “You’re the only one that gives me hope.” And I think this is great. It’s not me, it’s the message. The message of freedom is hopeful. And I tried to figure this out; why is it that we can talk about these terrible things happening to us, the dollar’s going bust and the country is broke and we’re at war and all these things. You know, it’s sort of like an addict. The addict never is cured till he admits there is a problem. And I think that’s what we’re getting the country to do. We’re getting them to admit that this is a serious problem, we’ve recognized it, we can’t continue what we’ve been doing. And what we should be doing, we know the answer. And that is believing in ourselves, believing in what freedom can do for us, and go back to the American tradition and defend our rule of law and our constitution.

I thank you very much.

  • Ed C

    Man, I loved hearing that! There’s way too many sheeple being led astray by the powers that be and those powers be self-serving. The Constitution – what a novel idea. Have these representatives never read it??!! I did catch what I thought was a (intentional or non-intentional?) reference to Sam Adams, also known as the Father of the American Revolution who said “It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.”

    I think Orwell fits in here too – from 1984 ” The slogans of Newspeak are, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is? Strength.”

    I’m really glad we have visionaries still here in America and Dr Paul is one. Ron Paul for President!

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    • fred the protectionist

      Sure it doesn’t take a “Majority to prevail,” but it at least takes more then 1/3rd of 1%.

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  • clay

    Dr Ron Paul, you are a great man!! I will support you in your run for president in 2012. I am a young college graduate that just graduated into a horrible world that needs somebody to help fix the dark and ugly. I studied business, marketing, soci-economics, and economics in brazil for a semester this previous year and when i am came back to america I was even more proud to be an american than ever before.

    The american constitutuion and the free market is the best thing that has ever happened to the world and to the human race. With a pure free market economy any individual that is creative, innovative, and utilizes resources well can enter the business world and make something out of themselves. Only in america can a man be born a peasant and die a wealthy man unlike countries in latin america and the rest of the world where the elite (big business, government or both together) controls all of the resources and has the power to choose who is a “have” and a “have not”. I will never bow to an other man, mankind is meant to be free and live, but we will only be free if people stop being cowards and stand up for their rights!!! LIBERTY OR DEATH

    Your messages of liberty and freedom have reached across racial and class barries. I am a young black man and i am standing with you and i want to let you know that there are many more standing with you as well.

    Ron Paul 2012

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    • Kathryn Smith

      CLAY,

      SPREAD THE WORD! THAT IS HOW HE GETS HEARD! WORD-OF-MOUTH, PERSON-TO-PERSON, AND EVEN THEN, PEOPLE STILL HAVE TROUBLE HEARING. =)

      IN LIBERTY,

      KAT

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  • Lisa

    I love me some Ron Paul :)

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  • Roy Trueman Jr.

    I have to agree with Arnie Rosner.
    I like what I hear from Ron Paul, especially his stand on eliminating the IRS and his stand on the Constitution.
    I think the evidence is extremely overwhelming that Obama does not fit the requirements of Our Constitution as a Natural Born Citizen.
    Congressman Ron Paul is in Washington now as part of Congress, what is his position on Obama’s eligibility? I think this is the single most important issue we face today as Obama has created many of the serious issues. This is a serious Constitutional Issue and Ron Paul has taken the Oath of office to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign or domestic and Obama certainly qualifies for one of those categories. Talk is not enough, I like what I hear but what is his position on it and why have I not heard him defending the Constitution as a Congressman?
    The Founders knew that Vattel defined a “citizen” simply as any member of society. They also knew from reading Vattel that a “natural born Citizen” had a different standard from just “citizen,” for he or she was a child born in the country to two citizen parents. That is the definition of a “natural born Citizen,” as recognized by numerous U.S. Supreme Court and lower court decisions (The Venus, 12U.S. 253(1814), Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242 (1830), Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1856), Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) , Ex parte Reynolds, 20 F. Cas. 582 (C.C.W.D. Ark 1879), United States v. Ward, 42 F. 320 (1890); Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), Ludlam, Excutrix, & c., v. Ludlam, 26 N.Y. 356 (1863) and more) and the framers of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the 14th Amendment, the Naturalization Act of 1795, 1798, 1802, 1885, and our modern 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401. It should be noted that during the Founding and throughout American history, there has always been a distinction between a general “citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born citizen” on the other. The law of nations did not make any specific requirements for one to be a “citizen” of a nation, for such a person was basically just a member of the civil society. Before and after the revolution, the Founders considered anyone who resided in the colonies or States and who adhered to the revolutionary cause to be a “citizen,” regardless of place of birth or condition of the parents. But the law of nations did provide for a strict definition of a “natural born citizen,” i.e., a child born in the country of citizen parents. And the Founders also adopted that stricter definition for an Article II “natural born Citizen” which applied only to one wanting to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military.

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    • fred the protectionist

      Mega fail. If the founders were such “enlightened open borders libertarians where every foreigner who stumbled into American borders had instant Constitutional rights” then why was there slavery and indentured servitude?

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      • little freddy

        To pick the cotton dumbass. Now we have Mexicans and they will actually work without whipping ’em.

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        • Joan

          Not. They pay no taxes, so they not only make okay money, they go to sanctuary cities where they lie that they don’t work and they get GA cash and food stamps and free medical and free housing. Heck, they make more than the middle class when you add it all up. The illegals would lose money if they became citizens because they would have to pay taxes on what they earn and the government would know they are working, so they could no longer lie to the welfare office. Some of them make big money in construction, $25 an hour. Where they would make it all up is they would get all of their kids and spouses on disability, so the taxpayers lose either way. All the people who used to be on welfare are all on permanent disability now. I saw this guy on TV the other day, strong, able bodied man, he’s on full disabilty, and he’s in the 7-11 buying lottery tickets and booze with his fraudulent welfare money, poor him. He was buffed, so disabled. Yeah, right. If all of the welfare frauds were working, we wouldn’t need illegals to do low wage jobs.

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        • fred the protectionist

          I’m just putting the Libertarian/Jewish “Purposive Theory” to shame and enjoying it.

          “What was the original intent of the founders” they say? Well the intent of the founders wasn’t for women to have abortion, or free education for blacks, otherwise there wouldn’t have been slavery and women would have been allowed to vote in 1700’s-1800’s long after the founding fathers were dead, Mr. Stephen Breyer Jewbertarian.

          Jewbertarians, lawl.

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      • Kathryn Smith

        It’s been proven that slavery has lowered the wage standard for all American workers…whenever there is free labor, the next paid laborer gets paid next-to-nothing, so I don’t see your point, Fred. The “enlightened” created a system where free markets could flourish, and what is even more fascinating is if you watched Ron Paul’s take on how slavery could be abolished, it did not have to have through a costly (in human lives and financially-speaking) war, but rather, through merely buying all of the slaves and setting them free! Now think about the special interests that controlled wanted to control American lives back then, both black and white, and see if they wanted what was in “the best interest of the people.” I smell a pattern…

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        • Know your history

          Lincoln proposed at one point to send slaves back home. He also stated if he could preserve the union by not freeing any slaves he would do it. The real issue was states rights. Lincoln freed slaves (only in the south )as a last ditch effort to win dwindling northern support for the war. Buying the slaves would not have worked.

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        • Joan

          Know Your History, you open the devil’s can of worms with this one. This is the problem. Black people typically live in ghettos or in poverty and crime in every country they live in. It ended up that it had nothing to do with slavery. It’s the same in Europe, in Africa, in Haiti, and only white Europeans and white Americans save black people in Africa and Haiti. Hispanic countries have yet to help one black country, Japan is helping, they pay a lot into the IMF, China doesn’t help other people of color. White people pay and pay, people of color migrate into countries created by white people, not the other way around, yet white people are always called the bad guys, and if you say one true thing you are called racist and evil, just like the illegals are doing now. They need us, need our tax money, our jobs, our country, then hate us and love Mexico. Same old game a million times done.

          The way it is now Hollywood says the whiter a black woman is the more beautiful she is, she has to have light skin, small features, straight soft hair. The black community is convinced looking white means they are beautiful. I would love to see dark skinned black women with their own hair be considered beautiful and have them stop believing looking like the people they blame for their problems makes them better. Black women should never have blonde hair, that’s an insult to them, they should exercise and eat healthy, get self-esteem from working at how they look instead of just getting fake hair and fake nails and being overweight and depressed and hoping having blonde hair makes them beautiful. The black community has gotten so far off track. Soon, women like Hallie Berry won’t be light enough for Hollywood. Her child, who is 3/4ths white will be the new black is beautiful in Hollywood. I remember when Angela Basset and Whitney Houston were considered beautiful black women, nowadays if you’re not as white as Hallie or Alicia Keyes, you are too black. Heck, Rev. Wright, Eric Holder and Collin Powell are whiter than I am. I’m just saying. Hollywood makes them all look white and many of the men who get rich and famous marry white women, then they say white people are bad and evil and holding them down. Okay then.

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      • Joan

        Fred, because the founding fathers believed women didn’t have any right to vote, women were their property, so were black people. They were saying that all male, white, wealthy, land owners are equal, worth one equal vote, their slaves were worth part of a vote TO THEM not to the slaves, and women were worth zero parts of a vote. That’s what they meant by all men are created equal. This is why when Glenn Beck goes on and on about the Constitution and hates people being taught case law, this is one of the areas where he is so out to lunch. Case law is fascinating and briliant. It’s how lawyers create laws. I worked in law firms for 20 years, there is nothing better than being a part of creating laws, and any attorney has to know case laws, more than the Constitution in order to be able to get anything done, are you kidding me? If you had a case to win, would you want to know what the Constitution says or about every case law, every decision any judge has made to a case similar to yours? You would have to know all of the prior decisions, and you would have to cite them to your judge to win your case. Never mind the Constitution that was amended how many times for things like letting women vote, long after it was amended to end slavery. It is a living document, case law trumps the Constitution unless the case goes all the way to the Supreme Court. Beck wants everyone to think the founding fathers are current and so relevant, that case law is nothing, and that non-existent gods are the answer to everything. Then, of course, blame the baby boomers for everything to, and Ghandi wasn’t spining his wheel holding people backwards and made cows scared while everyone was starving, and Martin Luther King was a Christian. Read Christopher Hitchen’s book “God Is Not Great.” Not only does it prove all religion is false, it tells how King was communist, how brilliant he was to use the white man’s religion against him to fight for civil rights and what a wierdo Ghandi really was. I wish Beck would read that book. No, he will drag that nutso Mormon religion into everything and keep saying false religion is the answer, and with 85 percent of the country not going to college, everyone believes him. Oh my.

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        • fred the protectionist

          Joan, when a civil Libertarian tries to conjure up the “founding fathers” in an argument that is liberal by today’s standard, it’s funny.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

    For anyone that wants to promote the freedom message, I’ll tell you how I have been successful:

    Decorate your vehicle in Ron Paul flair. Enthusiasm spreads, and so does the truth. Whereever you go, whereever you can, print out and distribute the following two-paged bulleted message:

    Grassroots Campaign for Liberty: Email (Name) @ (Email address) to build America’s base! SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT:

    For 40 years, when no one else in government stood up for you,
    Texas (R) Congressman, DR. RON PAUL:
    • Voted NO to raise taxes
    • Voted NO for an unbalanced budget
    • Voted NO for federal restriction on gun ownership
    • Never had taken a government paid junket
    • Voted NO to increase the power of the Executive branch
    • Voted AGAINST the Patriot Act – unwarranted wireless tapping on U.S. citizens; Bush (“R”) VOTED FOR and Obama (D) RENEWED the “Patriot” Act!
    • Voted AGAINST regulating the Internet
    • Voted AGAINST the special interest and political wars
    • Does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program
    • Returns a portion of his annual Congressional Office Budget to the U.S. Treasury every year!
    • PASSED HR 1207 “Federal Reserve Transparency Act” (AKA “Audit the Fed” Bill with overwhelming bipartisan support
    Visit http://www.whowillwinthe2012election.com/ and VOTE YES for Ron Paul!!! (Click “vote;” Click “Ron Paul;” Click “Submit”)
    Watch Ron Paul: A New Hope @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA (8 mins, 45 secs)
    A RON PAUL REVOLUTION! CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY:

    • END THE FEDERAL RESERVE CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEM
    • END THE IRS TAX CODE ABUSED OFTEN BY HOUSE AND SENATE, AND IMPLEMENT IN ITS PLACE A FAIR/FLAT CONSUMER-BASED TAX
    • END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM FLOODING HOUSING, LABOR, AND EDUCATIONAL MARKETS (USE CONSTITUTIONAL METHODS ONLY FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
    • RETURN SOVEREIGNTY (PEOPLE VOTES) TO THE STATES FOR ALL SOCIAL ISSUES
    • SHRINK THE SIZE OF GROWING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
    • END CORRUPT AND ECONOMICALLY-OPPRESSIVE POLITICAL AND SPECIAL INTEREST WARS (“WAR ON POVERTY,” “WAR ON TERROR,” “WAR ON DRUGS,” ETC…) (These are explained by Paul in detail on websites provided – they are ignored in mainstream media)
    • STRENGTHEN U.S. MILITARY DEFENSE SYSTEM
    • STRENGTHEN AND TEST U.S. WEAPONS FOR DEFENSIVE (NOT OFFENSIVE) MEASURES (A.K.A., NON-INTERVENTIONALISM)
    • STRENGTHEN U.S. BORDERS
    • RETURN CIVIL LIBERTIES TO THE PEOPLE!
    • RETURN FREE MARKETS TO THE PEOPLE! AN UNREGULATED FREE-SOCIETY, LASSIEZ-FAIRE CAPITALISTIC ECONOMIC SYSTEM
    • END THE CORPTOCRACY (COLLUSION BETWEEN BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS!) WITH A FREE SOCIETY THAT REJECTS BOTH!

    VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES AND IN 2012! FIND OUT HOW AT http://www.ronpaul2012.com! HE IS LEADING ALL THE CPAC STRAW AND POPULAR OPINION POLLS BECAUSE HE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMERICAN HERITAGE!

    In Liberty,

    Kat

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    • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

      Dear Kathryn

      The sad thing to realize is that all of the items you enumerated about Dr. Paul are the very positions we would expect from any honest and Constitutionally respectful representative of the American citizens. The list is really nothing special except when you compare to the positions taken by our current politicians.

      All of them? You tell me!

      So what does this say about the rest of the members of this Congress? Now I don’t know about you but this is reason I advocate a citizen based policy of “do not leave nary an incumbent standing.”

      Yes there may be some exceptions that merit more consideration but unless someone can figure out why and for what possible justification, all members of Congress have sold us out over Obama’s ineligibility then I would have advocate removing them all including Dr. Paul.

      After all can you justify rewarding this type of betrayal under any circumstances?

      I am convinced they (the progressive movement) protest too much for this not to be the biggest single issue they fear the most. Just look at the extremes to which they are going to convince everyone this is a non-issue.

      But hey…this is just my personal observations. I amy be way off base. Certainly you are all a lot smarter than this over 73 year old. What could I possibly know?

      I mean let’s face it how smart could someone be who lists all of their contact information…Right?

      Certainly no one who could be considered as credible. Just remember, at my age, I get to spell out all of the conspiracy theories I like…it comes with the territory.

      Arnie

      Available 24/7 – Defending freedom is no part-time job!
      arnie@arnierosner.com
      714-964-4056
      714-501-8247 – mobile

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  • Lisa

    I don’t understand what the hesitancy is with supporting this man. He is clearly one of the most smart leaders currently in Congress. He is spot on with everything he talks about. People fear him because they are brainwashed and/or dumbed down.

    Stop these damn wars, bring our troops home, abolish the fed, the irs and restore us to sanity.

    Educate yourself to the historical significance of these entities and in addition, globalist organizations like the UN, WTO, WHO, IMF, etc. They are corrupt and brought about for control and to rob nations of their sovereignty.

    Please, people wake up.

    Lisa

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      Amen, Sista!

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    • fred the protectionist

      “Educate yourself to the historical significance of these entities and in addition, globalist organizations like the UN, WTO, WHO, IMF, etc.”

      Yes they all originate from the ideology of free trade and open borders Libertarianism.

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    • Joan

      Lisa, the problem is he would be 80 years old when he runs, the entire conservative Jewish community is against him because he is not for supporting Israel, the conservative Republicans like Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin do not like him one bit. They want big defense, Hannity uses his show to get a lot of people elected, he wants Newt or another hard right Republican. Glenn Beck never has Ron Paul on anymore because he’s taken over his followers selling them his books, he’s preaching like he’s on the 700 Club. Who in the media is going to get behind Ron Paul? And, like you said, most people are not educated, 85 percent of people in this country are not educated so they simply learn from Glenn Beck and believe his every word, they will vote for whoever Hannity and Palin tell them to vote for. That’s the problem.

      Hannity had a big Tea Party audience on a few weeks ago when he was on the road, and he asked the audience who they wanted for president. Newt got the biggest aplause. Hannity has Newt, “Mr. Speaker” on almost every night, tons of air time for him on Fox News. The audience clapped for Palin, Mitt Romney, but, only one person clapped for Ron Paul. How to get around Fox News and get the Tea Party people to focus on something real? That’s the problem.

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  • Charlie

    Here is another fact. Social Security will be paying out more than it takes in, not in 2015 as previously predicted but THIS year.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      Yeah, I can agree with that – the baby boomer generation is going to be sucking the system dry – not to mention that it was, what? 22 billion dollars in the hole during the Reagan years? Phew! And I don’t believe it ever caught up considering the Fed has always, since its inception, been devaluing our dollar.

      Ron Paul 2012!

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      • Joan

        This is such a wrong thing to be saying. Why did the government raise the SS tax on the baby boomers every year and hand their money to the WWII generation who paid one-half of one percent into SS and paid zero in Medicare? Everyone in this country has been on the backs of the baby boomers from start to finish, the older generation and the younger generations. All you care is that they don’t get paid. Why didn’t the government stop all of this decades ago? Why did they take all of that money from that generation and hand it to the WWII generation just to get votes? Most of those people were filthy rich, and it’s wrong what the government did. This one of the many problems with Glenn Beck. He tells people to hate this generation that fought for civil rights, women’s rights, who questioned our nation going to war, who all worked, the first generation to get educations, first generation of women who went to college and worked in professional jobs, first generation to deal with alcoholism and drug addictions, first generation to fight racism, to bring things like incest out in the open. All Beck has to do is lie “blame this generation” with no knowledge of what they did and everyone piles on them. He tells everyone god is the anwer to everything, there is no god, yet everyone believes him. He talks about Martin Luther King, Jr. having to clue he was actually communist and skillfully used the white man’s religion to fight him for civil rights. He talks about Ghandi, has no clue he messed things up, he talks about the founding fathers were so great, has no clue they didn’t let women vote and didn’t let black people vote, they were the founding fathers’ slaves. Please, everyone, stop listening to Glenn Beck. Stop the insanity.

        The WWII generation bankrupted SS and Medicare, we have gotten zero out of it, while the last three younger generations have their kids on it and themselves on it, via faking disability. Enough bashing the only decent, functioning generation in this country. When Beck comes on, turn the TV off, stop the madness. Take a college classes instead and get some factual information.

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    • Lewis Carroll

      It already has been, Chuckie. The SS coffer is full of IOUs from the DoD, and as we all know, the DoD isn’t an investment firm… per se

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      • fred the protectionist

        SS was working fine until the open-border/free-traders destroyed the middle class.

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        • Joan

          Fred, SS stopped working when Clinton got rid of permanent welfare, they all moved over to being permanently disabled. There are about 30 million people claiming to be permanently disabled now, and they just happened to be people who never worked, who had been on welfare and kids who’s parents are also on it. Can you hear that giant sucking sound? Also, you can’t pay old people 3 grand a month when they are living to be 100 because they paid one-half of one percent into it back in the 60s and 70s and not dry up the funds in one generation.

          It’s the same exact situation with the government pensions. As long as the baby boomers worked and paid taxes for the WWII folks to get their state pensions, all was well. Now that this large generation is retiring, it’s the same as with SS, the states will not have the taxes coming in to pay their for their pensions. The younger generations drop out of high school, live off of the government, have kids to get money from the government, Jamie Oliver said the last three generations in this country don’t know how to cook, that’s part of why they are obese. There’s no one left to pay the pensions nor for SS. The young people don’t care that the WWII generation bankrupted the pensions and SS and Medicare, all they care is they want everything for free at 20, 30 years of age, all they ever say is they want the generation that paid for everything to die quickly so they can get their socialism at a much younger age, then they all say they hate socialism and want smaller government. Yeah, right. They want SS at 20, people are only fighting over all grabbing entitlement programs, heck, they want an entire generation to die fast to secure their social programs. I say a one way ticket out of here is the best idea.

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  • Charlie

    Here is a fact you can believe in ‘F’ and verify as well. The IMF reports that the US debt will equal or surpass 100% of the GDP by 2015. The report goes on to say that the US must reduce the structural deficit by 12 % of the GDP. In comparison their recommendation for Greece is only a 9% reduction of the GDP. When the US loses it’s triple A bond rating, other countries will shed US bond/dollar investments and our dollar will collapse. The truth is we must cut costs as 1 trillion dollar annual deficits that are predicted are unsustainable. America is now at a critical crossroad.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      I don’t know how to rate this because it is bad news, but well-reported, lol! However, I hardly see how the government, as is, is going to reduce (anything) by 1 trillion dollars (per unit of any time period)! Ron Paul could do it – he has some MAJOR “cutting spending” plans in place that are very practical, as well as thought-out means of achieving them. It may require some hardship on the people’s part at first, but I’d rather face the anticipated hardship of reversing this 100-years of mess than the unanticipated hardship of letting it fester further!

      Thanks for sharing!

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    • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

      Hi Charlie,

      Would you please be kind enough to reveal the source of your confidence in the following, “Here is a fact you can believe in ‘F’ and verify as well. The IMF reports”

      Thanks,

      Arnie

      Available 24/7 – Defending freedom is no part-time job!
      arnie@arnierosner.com
      714-964-4056
      714-501-8247 – mobile

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  • Noogie

    I didn’t take Mr. Paul seriously in his first run.

    However, I am not only reconsidering but now hoping he will run for 2012. His perseverance in auditing the Fed is impressive to me as far as integrity.

    Sarah is ok, but I am afraid that her charismatic personality could put us in a quagmire much like Obama’s zombie base has put his.

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  • F

    Just a simple question fot those that seem so up to date in info:

    how do you know how much is spent in welfare, food stamps, medicare/aid, in fancy surgeries an all that you are citing? were do you find that? no one will believe it if you have no facts that can be verified.

    If you show people solid data and make clear the flow of the economy money there will be real hope to make changes, as long as is simple but backed up with irrefutable facts. People are not dumb and will take side as long as a clear and real option is put forward.

    Most people know there are problems, that the ones that WORK HARD and pay into the common good are not getting benefits, all is needed is a clear picture, facts, and a goal. Well, would you please show the facts to back up your comments before you continue to list the burden of welfare.

    FYI: I’ve never, ever collected welfare or even seen in my life a food stamp, or applied for unemployement, so that explains why I don’t know the system and don’t want to use it. Period.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      This is very good question, actually LOL! It may actually prove our point even more so that Paul is needed and everyone else has been a complete failure. Considering that our FEDERAL government has not kept track of its spending and accounting in decades (in purpose), and has falsified data when it has been questioned on it (such as job creation, welfare, and the costs of the unconstitutional wars), NO ONE really knows what things are funded and why! LOL! I’m laughing not because it is funny, but because it is INSANE! And it is just….Sigh….And they call Paul loony? They call HIM crazy? YEAH! Ron Paul is the nutjob….HA! Whatever.

      As for the states, they have borrowed SO MUCH money from the Federal Government, that they cannot keep track of what came in and what went out and what money covered which program, and what debt is paid and what new accumulating debt is going to remain an unfunded liability, and so forth….!

      So, let’s make it simple – Vote Ron Paul 2012, throw the bums in Congress out 2010, and let’s get some folks in like Paul who understand 1) American tradition and heritage, 2) Economics, Accounting, and Finance, 3) The Constitution and the Rule of Law, and 4) World and US History!

      Thanks,
      Kat

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  • Kim

    Ron Paul should run on a ticket with Michelle Bachman for VP. That would be an educated, intelligent, good-looking and country-saving ticket!

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      Ron Paul-Judge Napolitano 2012 (or whoever Paul deems appropriate, because he has better judgment, more courage, and more integrity than 99.99% of anyone else who has ever ran or is currently running this country). Then we will go from there. =)

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    • Citizen

      Kim,
      For what its worth…
      Judge Andrew Napolitano would be a great VP too…
      http://www.judgenap.com/

      I grant you that Michelle Bachman is awesome !
      Sara Palin is a little to “gushy” and “glitzee” , i.e. hard to take real serious but she’s spot on with her topics.
      Michelle is really tough, especially when she grilled Timmy Gietner about where the Constitution authorized the Government to bail private banks out.
      This will develop in time
      ************Ron Paul for President****************

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      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

        Paul and the Bachmann/Palin foreign policies clash. I think that Bachmann is well-meaning like Palin, and she does have more experience in the unruly rule-making Congress than Palin has in her governing/mayoring career, but I think that the Paul-Bachmann thing would resemble to much of a McCain-Palin thing of the 2008 election, and many brainless, half-wits would not vote on that ticket because of the simple fact that they don’t KNOW the candidates and it resembles something of POP CULTURE. Even though both folks are awesome (Paul beyond comprehensible belief), the media would dupe it. Hope that makes sense…

        Based on credentials though, I don’t know enough about Bachmann to say that she would be strong, but I heard her on Michael Savage, the War Room, and other radio shows, as well as at the DC TEA party, so if she is sincere about restoring morality to America by merely not restricting our religious freedoms as our current FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, she could make an excellent secretary of state (or serve some other vital member of the cabinet).

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        • Joan

          I like Michele Bachmann a lot too. The first time I heard her talk, she came right out with it what Cap and Trade is, that it is a huge tax, gave all of the facts and stats about it. She is smart and hard hitting, and she gives tons of information about things that most of the other politicians will not come out and say. I like her. I agree with you. She’s different than Palin. Bachmann is a career politician, she has no intention of quiting her job to get wealthy writing books and doing TV shows. Palin is a mess in so many ways. Even people who hate Nancy Pelosi dislike Palin just as much. She went too far quitting her job and then all of the greed. It’s gone off the charts, and she never shuts up when she’s not even a politician any longer.

          I do like the idea of a woman or minority male running with Ron Paul. The Republican party has been labeled the party of old white guys, while the Dems ran the first woman candidate and the first African-American candidate. I personally like Bobby Jindal a lot. He’s an action person, he gets things done, he’s very bright, he balanced his budget and created more jobs than any other state while dealing with Katrina. Now, he has to deal with this massive oil spill. I saw a great photo the other day of him and President Obama talking one-on-one on an airplane, very powerful picture. I don’t know what Ron Paul thinks about Bobby Jindal, but he’s young and smart and he gets things done, and, he would be the first East Indian VP candidate. Bachmann is good too, she’s got her head on straight. Palin will scare the independent voters off, the middle of the road people would have a hard time with Palin.

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  • Peter Schiff

    The collapse of the USA is too far along to stop. I think Ron Paul is right, but I don’t think the zombie citizens of this country can be saved. The only action you can take is to buy gold, since 1 oz = Dow Jones, in the next few years, just like in 1929 and 1980. The key to understanding that gold is not in a bubble is the 30 year interest rate, currently at 5%. When gold was in a bubble in 1980, it was 25%, so we have a very long way to go in the bull market in gold, buy now, watch the USA collapse.

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    • Citizen

      Peter,
      Silver, the poor mans gold, is a better value right now for the typical American citizen to swap out for his/her Federal Reserve Notes.

      Ron Paul makes a great point about the “Bond Bubble”, who in their right mind, for that matter even their left mind, would buy a TEN year Bond? I suspect that the Treasury will soon have to raise their Bond discounts much higher because the yields will soon be (or already are) negative, loss of principal.

      The Chief Government Alchemist, Timmy Gietner, is still unable to COUNTERFEIT gold or silver, that’s why I prefer gold and silver to Benny’s and Timmy’s COUNTERFEIT Federal Reserve Notes

      Again Ron Paul’s bill to permit use of Alternative Competing Currencies, gold or silver should be allowed. Ron Paul is Right!

      ****************RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT************************

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    • Charlie

      That was a stupid attempt to run down Peter Schiff. He does not believe we are doomed unless we fail to reclaim America. Peter Schiff is a smart man running for the senate and whoever you are ……are brain dead.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      As for those who are educable, educate them. As for those who are collectivist, comformist zombies, let them follow our philosophy of liberty in their cult-like fashion. Either way, everyone, once they realize what it means to be free and an individual, will tear free from the Federal system of control. 73% of America has snapped out of it – the rest are waiting for the rude awakening. They will get theirs.

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  • Steve

    I support the abolishing of the Federal Reserve, but I have some major concerns with some of Paul’s ideas. Specifically, when he talks about entitlement. Is he referring to the elderly on Social Security? The disabled receiving SSDI? What does he mean by a nation that encourages others not to work? If one is old and frail, or disabled they obviously cannot work. Do we abandon them? And if the unemployment rate is currently close to 10% there are not enough jobs for people who even do want to work. Do away with entitlement programs like Social Security and SSDI and the unemployment figures with be closer to 30% to 40%. Can someone explain this to me? If Paul stands any chance to win a election, he has to support to the most vulnerable in our society: they vote too. A nation is also measured by the way they treat their most vulnerable.

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    • fred the protectionist

      The Libertarian/Neocons would just rather have the old and disabled die off so they can make more money.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      A nation of victims and nonself-sufficient, government-dependent sheep are not candidates for true freedom. They must be transformed, and transformed they will – whether in this lifetime or another, they will see the truth. When those who are willing to help their friends, family, neighbors, churches, local schools, and communities have the shackles of a Federal government removed from their tired and soar bodies, the first thing they will do with their acquired wealth is give back to those truly in need. It is only human nature, for a large majority of moral Americans, to do so. Yet, with increased Federal control, demoralization has stricken our society like a cancer. The only cure? Freedom of the individual to do as he or she pleases with his or her life, liberty, and property. For those who do not need nor do not seek help, they will be left to perish. Jesus said, “The poor will ALWAYS be among us.” No matter what type of political, economic, or social class strata system you advocate, there will always be poor among you – the weak, the suffering. I foresee a strong transition from faith in the State to faith in God when Paul is elected President in 2012 and the people rise to the occasion! When that happens, people’s souls will be strengthened and they will endure what many believe now to be the unendurable. People will be stronger than ever to get through tough times. When the collapse of our economy becomes readily apparent to all, and Paul is President, we will see a great cry for freedom like none other in recent history – at least not in the past several generations. When you think about the fallacies and falsifications – the futileness – of government-run programs such as SS and Medicare, you start thinking to yourself…is there anything more to life than this? Then you begin watching Dr. Paul speak, as he provides answers that (albeit those requiring self-sacrifice) restore sanity, freedom, liberty, and peace to our nation. Consequently, you start to equate his messages with those of Jesus, and you think to yourself, “Thank you, God! I am listening to a latter-day prophet; I am in safe hands, and even if the world comes to an end and the government attacks American citizens (e.g., terrorists) for protesting Federal policy, I am safe and sound in heaven with Ron Paul et al…”

      Sorry to get a bit off track, but if the above didn’t answer your question, the answer is “No, we do not abandon our fellow man, but God gives everyone free will to do His charitable deed. If the government deprives you of your ability to act competently towards that end, God has mercy on you. Those (e.g., the government) who thwart others (the people) from being charitable and practicing courage and faith are the ones that ought to fear God now the most.”

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  • Steve

    I support the abolishing of the Federal Reserve, but I have some major concerns with some of Paul’s ideas. Specifically, when he talks about entitlement. Is he referring to the elderly on Social Security? The disabled receiving SSDI? What does he mean by a nation that encourages others not to work? If one is old and frail, or disabled they obviously cannot work. Do we abandon them? And if the unemployment rate is currently close to 10% there are not enough jobs for people who even do want to work. Do away with entitlement programs like Social Security and SSDI and the unemployment figures will be closer to 30% to 40%. Can someone explain this to me? If Paul stands any chance to win a election, he has to support to the most vulnerable in our society: they vote too. A nation is also measured by the way they treat their most vulnerable.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      Sure…I’ll tell you what Paul is saying about entitlements. When he becomes President, he will gradually wean folks off the Federal welfare state, and return sovereignty to the states to decide which welfare programs are supported. For those programs that are not supported, or those states that choose not to a free market (that is, an unregulated, untaxed capitalistic system) will not that 10% unemployment rate right down to near-1 percent (there is no such thing as 0% unemployment). Most folks will be able to afford their own means of living, for the elderly, handicapped, and unemployed who just simply cannot work, churches, communities, neighbors, family, and CHARITY will be able to function again full throttle because the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT would be off their backs stealing all of their money and they will finally be able to fund their neighbor (you know, love your neighbor as yourself? Jesus actually believed in a form of grassroots socialism, if you think about it – yet, he didn’t EVER indicate that GIVING should be mandated. When giving is voluntary and bottom-up, then you will notice that a lot more giving occurs). Does that make sense? For example, if I worked and made 100% of my paycheck because Ron Paul abolished the IRS, then I would have a WHOLE lot more money to play around with – I could pay all my bills, put some in privatized SS and Medicare accounts, and then on top of all of that, give it to church, give it to other folks, and help out my community! This could all happen, mind you, working at BURGER KING as a bottom-level employee because I would be getting paid an un-taxed minimum wage, and my dollar would be worth a dollar after PAUL GOT RID OF THE FED! Or the Fed got rid of itself – whichever happens first. =)

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      • Joan

        If you worked at Burger King and didn’t pay taxes, you wouldn’t bring in enough money to rent an apt. and buy and insure and maintain a car. You would never have enough to pay $600 or more a month for health insurance, if you got sick, charity will help you? There is nothing stopping people from doing charity right now. Rich people do it all the time for tax write-offs, they start charities and funnel their money into the charities because it’s tax free, and then pay family members to work for their charities. Many hospitals are funded by the Catholic church, it still costs taxpayers several trillion dollars per year to provide Medicare and Medicaid to the people who go to those hospitals. You could never buy a home working at Burger King, you wouldn’t not have one cent to give to charity, and you would qualify for food stamps and free medical yourself, just like the people who are paid slave wages working at Walmart. You wouldn’t have one cent to give to anyone else, and the government couldn’t give people free educations, no money for everyone’s “disabled” children, no special needs money, no disability payments, no free health care. You would be dependent on charity for many of your needs and so would everyone else, and, no one in today’s world, with the greed everyone has today, is going to give money to charity for other people. Most people have tons of money retired and are fighting and fighting for socalism, for their 3,000 a month SS payments for themselves and their spouses who didn’t pay into it so they can take trips to Europe, they would never give their socialism money to charities. No one is going to do that. Everyone I talk to fights and fights over wanting the 100 trillion dollars paid to them in social programs, then all says they don’t want to pay any taxes, they don’t want to pay for anything. People don’t want the government telling them not to be obese, then they want the government to pay for their health care when they get sick from it. They don’t want the government telling them how to raise their children, but ask the government to pay them for their children having problems, being disabled, ask for special education for free, ask the government to pay them to mind their disabled children. Everyone wants to be paid from the government, but no one wants to be told what to do, they don’t want socialism, but they want all the social programs, they don’t want to pay taxes, but they want smaller government while taking all the free government money and help they can get. No one is going to fund trillions of dollars in government programs through charity instead. How come not one person has said they would give up SS and Medicare, not one person will ever say they will give up government money and government health care, but everyone says they don’t want socialism? People in this country want all of the taxpayer funded programs, then say they don’t want to pay taxes. People are not even at a point of admitting what it is they really want. That’s why you see Beck followers protesting against socialism, and asking for 100 plus trillion in social program payments for themselves. Unless they all agree to give up Medicare and Social Security to go Libertarian, their real fight is for a VAT tax and for socialism. Socialism works okay, it works really well in some countries, like Sweden. Beck sells it as the evil of the world, but this country has long since been socialist and everyone loves the programs they have been receiving. Most people love Medicare, love welfare, love receiving disability payments for their children, free educations. No one is going to give any of it up, and charity isn’t going to replace any of it. The only reason people are all fighting over SS and Medicare and welfare now is because they used up all of the free money, there’s no more money to give out.

        It’s like Beck’s stuff about unions. Without unions a a living wage, the middle class work for slave wages, like fast food restaurants and service jobs. 70 percent of our economy is consumerism, buying stuff, so without the middle class making union wages or living wages, the economy goes under.

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    • Charlie

      Ron Paul doesn’t want to just cut off people who are depending on Social Security. He envisions a gradual phase out of this failing program with tax free individual contributions to your own retirement account. Now if you trust the government to do a better job of managing your future than yourself…..take a look at what they’ve done. There is a misconception that our money is in the SSI trust fund. The SSI trust has nothing but government IOU’s and is funded by a ponzi scheme. As payments come due, bond auctions are held and if there aren’t enough buyers the Fed buys them back to keep the illusion going. Our national debt in reality is not to China or Japan. It is all due and payable to the Federal Reserve who holds the mortgage on America. When the ponzi scheme collapses the elderly and disabled will be in the same boat as the rest of us, penniless. This is why the Fed refuses to be audited.

      If you took all the wealth of this country and redistributed it evenly among the people, in 30 days there would be rich and poor again. A “true” socialism would be utopia but it just won’t work due to human nature. Americans are charitable and help each other but the government takes our money by force and redistributes it as they see fit.

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      • Joan

        Charlie, you are so right. If you distributed all of the money evenly, it would all be back in the hands of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and George Soros, Donald Trump, etc. within a year. You totally get the social programs too. I’ve been debating people in different chatboards for about two months now about SS and Medicare. I have two people in an MSNBC board right now saying same old mantra, we paid for it, we would have invested our 6 percent and made millions. They all know it’s welfare after one year, they all have known this since the 1970s from seeing their grandparents or parents on it. They all know they pay 5K or so into Medicare and saw their parents get end of life care that cost 500K or saw their grandparents get free open heart surgery, hip replacements, knee replacements, expensive scans, on and on. You can’t get one of them off of they want 100 trillion in socialism, yet you can’t get one off them off of they want smaller government and a balanced budget and that they hate socialism.

        I do not think the American people have a clue they are doing socialism and love it and are fighting to keep it, and, they are going to lose it over not admiting they want it and not fighting for it. Sean Hannity said last week they are going to means test SS now, which means only the poor will get it. So, rather than everyone saying they want it but they hate Obama and hate socialism, they should admit they want it and lobby the Dems for a VAT tax in exchange for full SS and Medicare, and lobby the Dems for a VAT tax for universal health care, and just get on with it.

        I have people right now in an MSNBC chatboard saying why do I like Europe or Sweden being socialist, or telling me to go move to Greece if I like socialism, while they are telling me how dare me tell them to give up SS and Medicare, they want the 100 trillion in free stuff. No one is admitting what they want. I think people have become too dependent on these things to go without them in the future, I think people are fighting for them in reality, and I think we should go VAT tax and have the finest health care and pay them all the free stuff they want. The younger generations don’t even want to work until they are 20, everyone is so dependent on the government, 1/4th of all children in this country are on food stamps, so it’s the tipping point. Either all of it is going to stop and people will make their own way, or we have to go to a big VAT tax and universal health care and fully fund SS and Medicare permanently. If they let the Dems ration Medicare and means test SS instead of saying they are willing to pay a VAT tax for it, they are going to lose it.

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    • Ruth

      Social Security is insurance. When you work you pay the premiums out of every check you get. It is not charity, you pay for it. The only reason the SS program is in trouble is because the gov has spent the money on other things instead of keeping it for the people who have paid for it. Now they are trying to make out like the elderly are a burden on society.

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      • Joan

        Sean Hannity said last week that the government is going to means test Social Security now. If you paid 30K into it, you and your spouse get $1,500 a month each out of it, that’s $36K in one year of payments. So, if people have pensions and other incomes, they will only get maybe 5 times what they paid in, 5 years of payments. It would take 45 trillion dollars to hand out all of that free money. The Cato Institute says they should stop the payments for a female spouse who didn’t pay into it too because a woman who works and pays into it gets the same as a women who never worked. It’s double payments if a man pays into it, but if a woman pays into it, her husband doesn’t get it for her paying ito it. So, hopefully that big free payout to the non-contributing spouse will be stopped and stop a little of the bleeding. Also, they will give people with other incomes when retired a voucher for 12,000 a year to buy their own health care. The government can no longer pay out a million plus to every person and their spouse who paid 5K into it to get health care for the rest of their lives.

        Also, they should gut SSI completely. That would take about 35 million people off of it who never paid into it, and put them all back to work. It’s all young people doing disability fraud. They would have to work and pay taxes instead of eating up tax money.

        People have to decide if they are Libertarians or if they want socialism. Since everyone beyond loves SS and Medicare, we should go fully socialist, provide for everyone, not just the elderly. That’s the problem, our country’s socialism only provides for one segment of society, that’s why everyone has hijacked it and what everyone is really fighting over. We might as well go Sweden, full socialism, not just 100 trillion for old people. If we did that, old people would no longer want it because it would mean a 20 percent VAT tax to do social programs for everyone. It would take a 10 percent VAT tax on everyone to pay out the 100 trillion for SS and Medicare, so we can all pay 10 percent for it, or begin to privatize Medicare and means test SS.

        They should have means tested it two decades ago, privatized Medicare the minute they saw the advanced medicine costs bankrupting Medicare. As soon as the expenses hit one trillion, the politicians should have scrambled to stop the bleeding and have started paying for insurance premiums instead of paying for the surgeries and health care itself. They should never have left rich people on SS for 35 years, 34 years of free money to wealthy people, and they should never have raised it up every year to get votes. It should have stayed a small supplemental income only for widows or people who worked but don’t have a pension or spouse to support them, and when the WWII generation lived to be 100, not 62, the politicians should have changed the retirement age to 75 and realized they were creating trillions in expenses they could only pay out to one generation. This shows all of us how stupid the government is and it shows the politicians only give out free money to get votes, once the free money is gone, they end the programs. That’s what they are doing right now.

        They just unfunded Medicare by 500 billion, sent it into rationed care, and last week, Sean Hannity said they are going to look at how much people make retired now, and people will have to pass a test proving they need SS. All of those people who say they would have invested their 6 percent and made millions, but who never invested one cent of the rest of their income and didn’t make millions, will have to take their big retirements and put their money where their mouth is and make their millions after they retire.

        The politicians givith and the politicians take it away, depending on how much it is going to cost and where the votes are. They’re more concerned with snagging the 20 million votes from the illegals by giving them amnesty right now, than by trying to fund over 100 trillion they cannot get to get votes from old people.

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        • fred the protectionist

          The CATO institute is pro-slavery, doesn’t matter what they say.

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    • Joan

      Steve, I think the social programs would be gradually cut out. I saw a report from the Cato Institute that said that every household pays $550 a year to pay for Section 8 housing. It costs billions of dollars, creates nothing but crime and problems. They could give everyone on free taxpayer money housing two year notices that they will have to find another way to live, move home with family members, get a job and pay rent, give them time to move on. There are a lot of things that could be done to keep some of the programs in place, but only for indigent people who worked and paid taxes. For example, they are now going to do a means test for social security, they do not have the money to give out, so they are going to see how much you make retired, and start only giving SS to indigent people who worked and paid into it. There are about 35 million people on disability, 99 percent of them are not disabled, it’s all a scam because when Clinton ended permanent welfare, they all moved over to permanent disability, and hit gold because they found out they can get their children on it too, big bucks. They need to redefine who is totally disabled, anyone who can raise children and drive a car and go to a health club is not disabled. They need to gut disability benefits for alcoholics, obesity, drug abuse, AHDD, OCD, most of it. Go back to the old days when it was for blind and deaf people. It’s become a way of life for the younger generations, most couple SSI with welfare cash and food stamps and free housing and make a lot more than the middle class does. They can do things like make a law that no one can apply for welfare unless they have worked for five years first, a pay-in system like Social Security, or like here in CA, one of the candidates for governor is now running on making people work or welfare, no welfare for illegals, they just cut a lot of free stuff because the state went broke over it. There’s more people living off of the state, counties and feds than working in CA, so it went under.

      SS and Medicare is a ponzy scheme. While the politicians handed out all the free money and free health care to the WWII generation who paid almost zero into both programs, the politicians raised their payments from $200 a month, a small supplemental income, up to as high as $1,500 a month to get their votes. Young people saw wow, 1,500 a month for free, free health care, free prescription drugs, so many make it up they are disabled to cash in on the big free money. How many young people can work and get full health care and prescription drugs for free, and take home 1,500 after taxes with no education and no effort? SS was paid for by the 75 million baby boomers all working and paying 6 percent of their income into it. In those days, 41 people paid in for 1 person receiving it. Now that this huge generation wants to begin to retire, the younger generations have gone back to women not working, getting their kids on disability, getting themselves on disability and welfare, there is no large, hard working, educated generation to pay into SS to pay the baby boomers. Now it’s 4 people paying in for 1 person who receives it.

      It only worked for one generation as long as there was a huge working generation behind it paying for it. Now, they took 500 billion out of Medicare to gut it and make rationed care. That’s the only way they can try to save it. The Republicans and the Cato Institute have come up with plans to privatize it, pay people 12,000 a year to purchase medical insurance themselves, which would save the program. The way it is now, people pay 5K or so into it in their lifetimes, and the government pays for every doctor appointment, surgery, test, meds and so on. It would take 100 trillion (with a T) to hand out all the free health care to the baby boomers. People say they paid into it, yeah, 5K or 10K max and want full health care for themself and their spouse for 25-35 years. It’s not even socialized medicine, it’s basically free after the first few months. Same with SS. There are 75 million people on it now, with another 75 milllion baby boomers wanting to go on it. For decades the government paid filthy rich old people all of that free money, so now they are going to means test it, if you have a large pension, other incomes, you won’t get it for very long.

      I don’t agree charity or churches will pick up the slack that is needed to solve these problems. False gods are not real, not one thing will get accomplished with that type of thinking. It’s an easy escape route for people to get rid of social programs and feel good about it. These things need to be phased out slowly in order to get dependent people off of them safely. There are generations in this country who have never worked one day, so it makes sense to do a phase out system that includes job training and that gives people fair warning that the free ride is over. I do think the welfare, SS and Medicare programs should be kept in place, not dependency on charities, but disability needs to be redefined, SSI should be done away with, 99 percent of it is welfare fraud, SS should be means tested and only given to the payee to make it fair, Medicare should be privatized, it’s either that or rationed care.

      The other thing we have to all look at is the expense of advanced medicine. The only real way people would be able to continue to get expensive tests and procedures is if we did do universal health care and do a 10-15 perent VAT tax. That would bring in trillions per year, which is how much you need to give the finest health care to 320 million people. Private insurance can no longer make a profit because it counted on larger populations of young people not getting sick. Today, young people are obese, have autism, most families have at least one child on disability, the biggest generation is old now, so private insurance has no young, healthy market to offset a large aging generation. I think people will have to either decide on lower care, rationed care, or become willing to pay a big VAT tax if they want to continue to have expensive surgeries and tests. It’s up to the people, but the days of it’s all free, Medicare is free, Medicaid is free, Medicare has 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and Medicaid is bankrupting states as I type. So, the days of no one pays for medical care and it comes from outer space and it’s all free are over. Unfunded liabilities means the government added up how much money they gave out to the WWII generation in Medicare, they multiply it by the 75 million baby boomers who will go onto it, and they come up with it would cost over 100 trillion dollars to give the baby boomer generation Medicare. It took in less than 1 trillion, and would need 100 trillion to pay for surgeries and tests and meds and doctor’s appointments for 75 million people. It’s a ponzi scheme that would have continued working if the next generations were larger, healthy, educated and working, but that’s not the case.

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  • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

    Dr. Paul makes incredible sense out of this current dilemma we face. I am impressed with the manner in which he has identified the issues and then addressed the manner in how we deal with implementing the solutions.

    At this point I support his views completely. I am also encouraged to support him in his bid for office of the president.

    My only concern is whether he can provide the necessary proof that he is a natural born citizen, under the requirements of the constitution, in order to be eligible for that high office?

    My fear is based on the current set of circumstances where there is serious doubt about the person occupying this position as president and the total failure of the 111th Congress to responsibly deal with this issue, in a manner that is consistent with their sworn oath of office.

    Mr. Paul, also being a member of this select group, has some culpability for the apparent failure of the current application of the constitutional law. How does Mr. Paul respond to this set of circumstances?

    Arnie

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    • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

      I would like to express my thanks to those of you who took time to express your opinion by placing a “thumbs down” on my post. Now if you would be so kind as to express your thoughts on the matter I would be even more grateful to learn of your reasons.

      I always appreciate hearing how others view a situation. It helps me to better understand and to broaden my point of view. Certainly you know how to reach me.

      Available 24/7 – Defending freedom is no part-time job!
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      • fred the protectionist

        They probably thumbs downed you for putting your full name, telephone number (both of them), e-mail address, city and state. Hey what’s your address and social security number?

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    • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

      Well I am disappointed at no response to my request. Is that because:
      – No interest?
      – No guts?
      – No ethics?
      – No spine?
      – Comment rating is a function of a Paulobot?

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      • Barney

        Ignore Fred, he usually just post to this site for cathartic release of his bitterness.

        I didn’t give you the finger, but I thought what you said was caustic. Questioning Ron Paul’s citizenship is lame to the 33rd degree, his roots here are at least 3G. If there had been any question of Obama’s citizenship, don’t you thing the vicious negative campaign vultures working for the RNC would have drug it out during the campaign? Look at what they did to the esteemed Senator and distinguished war veteran John Kerry; they would definitely not have passed up such an easy target. So to raise the point after the squid puppet is President is to be cliche, like closing the barn doors after the horses have all escaped.

        Since you brought it up I think Orley Taints is worth discussing. This woman of apparently inadequate skills as a dental professional, at least in this country, is a Soviet refuge. She like many others professed to being Jewish in order to get out of the economic collapse of that system. She was routed to Israel, where she was assigned a handler and groomed for implantation to the USA. After the usual 2 year ‘orientation’/quarantine, she was installed in the USA. She probably reports to her MOSSAD handlers weekly, and would have little clue as to what I am writing here. The pattern is, recruiting of desperate Eastern Europeans by the MOSSAD to manipulate the USA… and other targeted countries.

        So Fountain Valley boy, go scout out the MOSSAD moles in your neighborhood. I would start near the temple, but not too close: the Jewish mafia will take you out on orders from IS, they are terribly active in California. You’ll do better if you do your homework and target the “jewish” Russian refugees who were processed through Israel. est. 40%

        Spine? Spleen? Ethics? I was just being polite to what seemed a crank post. Try coding a bot that dissects idiots…

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      • Barney

        Sorry for the echos, I resubmitted 2x before realizing the web server overloaded.

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      • Roy Trueman Jr.

        Barney

        How can you say that about John Kerry? The person most responsible for the bad treatment of our Vietnam Veterans of which I am one. Even worse than “Hanoi” Jane Fonda. The man who started the lies that Vietnam Vets were baby killers. At least Jane apologized. A person who droped his draws and shot the moon at the Whitehouse and wiped his butt with the American Flag.

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      • Arnie Rosner, Fountain Valley, Ca

        Hey Barney….

        Thank you immensely. It is great that you responded. I certainly appreciate your concerns but perhaps you misunderstood the manner in which I expressed my issue. I apologize for my ineptitude.

        I am sure you too being the bright guy you are can clearly see that Congress has the responsibility to deal with Obama lack of eligibility. Now as you point out, Dr. Paul is a great patriot and certainly one who need not defend his patriotism, but therein lies the enigma. Under the weight of such mounting evidence to challenge Obama, how is it such a man of honor and principle if giving this issue a free pass?

        I am confident that Dr. Paul of any member of Congress knows the truth just the same as the rest of Congress. I see Dr. Paul as the one with the necessary integrity to stand up and be counted in this hour of need. You see Barney, the eligibility issue is the one issue that has the entire progressive movement scared to death. This is their Achilles’ heel and Dr. paul has it within his power to deal this whole nightmare the deathblow it deserves.

        How about Barney…? Did I do a better job of explaining my position? Can you find fault with this line of reasoning?

        By the way Barney, I put my info on line because I take responsibility for my comments.

        Arnie

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  • MARSHALL MORETTA

    I like most of what I’ve heard FROM Ron Paul, particularly on economic & military issues. There is a lot of speculation on positions by his supporters that sounds suspect. Ron is the only candidate in my lifetime (71) who is consistent and firm on his issues and humble as well.

    My only reservation is that I don’t know his positions on abortion (I’m a secular humanist – for choice/against abortion), prayer in schools (I’m a secular humanist – prayer should certainly be not part of government), foreign aid (get it to people, not bureaucrats), how does the economy work w/o the Fed?. If anyone knows of a place where there are line item positions on various issues, please let me know. Thanks.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Danner

      I understand your sentiments, but consider this:

      Ron Paul is not anti-choice. He is pro freedom of choice in all personal, individual issues. That is what Libertarianism is. However, he wants states to decide whether or not folks can have abortions. If it is as the Federal level, then ALL Americans have to fund a FEDERAL abortion program for those who want abortions, even if women who are not having, or who strongly disapprove of them, do not want to fund that. That immediately takes away freedom of choice (how to spend your money, religious freedom, personal freedom).

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRu-FAwdtA

      Secondly, and perhaps of more consequence, imagine you have three presidential candidates: A Romney (R), an Obama (D), and a Paul (because that is how I sincerely see it being).

      Then you present the VERY important issues of War, deficits, national debt, the Patriot Act and spying on citizens/assassinations, ending the fed, the IRS, and abortion to these men….Paul is the only one that says “I’m for ending the wars, national debt, patriot act, spying on citizens, assassinations of American citizens, ending the Fed, ending the IRS, but, personally, I believe abortion is wrong and should not be dealt with at the Federal level, and therefore, I want the states to handle that issue. Obama and Romney both agree that the Federal government should handle abortion and other social issues. Who are you going to go with?

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  • Robert Ahrend

    I believe he might be just the answer and we return to our roots of what our Founding Fathers wanted this great nation to be and to return Prayer to our schools along with teachings of the Bible and yes we must move to alternative forms of energy along with using new methods for construction such as modular homes and buildings and Al Gore was quite right and his book “An Inconvenient Truth” was pointing us in the right direction and Global Warming is a fact and not fiction as to many people are believing.

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    • Mr. Miller

      You’re a dumbass, but a Ron Paul fan non the less so I won’t go to hard on you. We don’t need to get into modular homes or any of your other green bullshit. We need to allow the markets to run there course unsubsidized and let the markets determine prices, essentialy the buyers choice. We don’t need to put the bible quaran or any other fairytale in to school because that notion is in support of a goverment mandate. We need to treat schools like markets allow choice, people like you(dolts) can send their kids to bible school or quaran school or whatever choice of school they prefer. Get government out! Allow competition to fester and the entire sector will THRIVE! Do you know anything about Ron Paul or how almost all your points he would be against? Run along sheep!

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      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

        I like what you have to say about markets taking over and free enterprise running its course. It, by nature, regulates itself, and keeps folks in check. It is a natural check and balance system that does not undermine or override anyone’s free will or individualism. In such a system (particularly in modern society), this works JUST fine. And for the fella above you that thinks there is an energy crisis and global warming, and that perhaps businesses are to blame, think about the INEFFICIENCY AND INEFFECTIVENESS of government-run bureaucracies…. Then we can talk global warming, LOL! Unregulated free markets tend to take care of their environment because they WANT TO MAINTAIN their environments to continue conducting business. I think if there was truly an energy crisis or global warming, the businesses around the world would be ON THE CASE pronto! =)

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      • Slitherinnin

        I agree, but you have got to understand the resistance of the parents of the 40% who lose in your market model. I suppose 40% of them are actually trying, but the other 40% + bottom feeding lawyers for the really pathetic remaining 20% will try to game the system by suing you, their oppressor. Not you, the guy who makes the magical light switch work, but you, the evil capitalist who expects to be paid for making the magical light switch do its thing.

        I have no use for these people. Do you?

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      No, you are all wrong…Sorry….If you want that type of medriocrity, you will have to move to a foreign nation.

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  • Ryan

    Good speech.
    I’m glad to hear the campaign for liberty is growing.
    The last poll between Ron Paul and Barack Obama had them in a virtual tie. If the trend continues and the liberty movement keeps growing, and if Ron Paul decides to run for president in 2012, Ron Paul will be our next president and America can start to recover from the disasterous last few decades of political Corporate-Authoritarianism.
    I am so looking forward to real change in the direction of liberty and freedom and prosperity.
    Keep up the fight for freedom!

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    • http://highfive4all.com Ronald L. Waldron

      We need a third party.
      An AMERICAN party of Choice.

      April 5, 2010 at 3:01 pm
      Ron Paul should distance himself from the Republican Party.
      Dennis Kucinick should distance himself from the Democrat Party.

      They should run together on an Independant Party ticket.

      Call it the American’s Party, the party of choice for and by the
      American only citizens of the USA “only”.

      patd wrote, in response to ronaldlwaldron:

      now THAT would be a ticket I would vote for—and I doubt either would care who was on top–I was angry when Dennis caved and voted for that Insurance company blow job the democrats call the health care reform act–I was REALLY feeling betrayed-but for my read of his affect when he announced his reversal–Obama said something to him that made him reverse-and that something may or may not have been a lie-but it made Dennis believe he was doing the greater good in switching his vote-i wonder if we will ever know what that was…

      NOTE: I have had SEVERAL responses in agreement with such a ticket. RLW

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      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

        Hmm! I was wondering about Dennis K., because when I heard him on the radio a while back, he was voting for the healthcare bill…I had no idea that he reversed it! Oh my goodness, see how “Conservative Talk Radio” like Beck, Doyle, Rush, and all them don’t let you know what is going on, when it is important to know that? Far as I’m concerned the radio show hosts, like Levine, Rush, Beck, Savage, Quinn and Rose, and so on down the line, DON’T want Ron Paul to win because it would kill their business! For if Ron Paul wins, that would mean that (gasp!) Democrats and Republicans would finally have agreed on a candidate that shares values from both parties and it would destroy the two-party system! Well, I am totally for free-markets and believe there is no other way, but the radio show hosts are profiting off of the two-party establishment, where if the Democrats are failing, they can bolster Republican ego, and where Republicans are failing, they can “kick them in the rear” to get them moving (politically-speaking). And they really like it this way, but to the detriment of Middle America? To the detriment of our national sovereignty? To the advantage of a two-party machine that destroys a true American’s chance to win an election? Sorry, I disagree with that notion through and through. To me, they are espousing the very system that destroys us, and it ought to be reported as such. In my opinion, they are just the same, if not worse than other government-run monopolies. (Just for the record, I was a “Rush-baby” neoconservative Republican turned Paul once I saw how intent both Democrats and Republicans were on destroying out country!)

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  • http://andrewweeraratne.blogspot.com/ Andrew

    Amazing speech!

    Ron Paul is right on inflation. We cannot solve the problems of the nation until we begin to measure inflation properly. He is right on defense expenditure and civil liberties, very brave to give such speeches and with every speech he gives it is getting clearer that Paul is the only one running for President who can save the Nation from going bankrupt both morally and financially (this is coming from a liberal who voted for Obama). As Paul repeatedly points out the Fed is the major reason why the USA is going bankrupt. President Obama and his crowd will never understand that.

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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Kathryn Smith

      Andrew – Thank you tons for speaking up for the truth and revealing a small, yet telling part of your personal experience with our corrupt system. Please, if you have in the past or continue to associate with other Obama-fans, spread the word. (Tell family, friends, co-workers, neighbors, et cetera…) Unfortunately, Paul does not get fair playing ground in the media, so it is We The People that must give him publicity!

      I travel around my local area and everywhere I go with my car sporting Ron Paul and liberty messages, and I get nothing but curious stares at the least and thumbs up, waves, and honks at the most! Then, everywhere I go, I pass out with a brief and strong, enthusiastic introduction, the following two pages stapled together (for which I put together myself):

      Grassroots Campaign for Liberty: Email Kathryn @ caleb0504@hotmail.com to build America’s base! SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT:

      For 40 years, when no one else in government stood up for you,
      Texas (R) Congressman, DR. RON PAUL:
      • Voted NO to raise taxes
      • Voted NO for an unbalanced budget
      • Voted NO for federal restriction on gun ownership
      • Never had taken a government paid junket
      • Voted NO to increase the power of the Executive branch
      • Voted AGAINST the Patriot Act – unwarranted wireless tapping on U.S. citizens; Bush (“R”) VOTED FOR and Obama (D) RENEWED the “Patriot” Act!
      • Voted AGAINST regulating the Internet
      • Voted AGAINST the special interest and political wars
      • Does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program
      • Returns a portion of his annual Congressional Office Budget to the U.S. Treasury every year!
      • PASSED HR 1207 “Federal Reserve Transparency Act” (AKA “Audit the Fed” Bill with overwhelming bipartisan support
      Visit http://www.whowillwinthe2012election.com/ and VOTE YES for Ron Paul!!! (Click “vote;” Click “Ron Paul;” Click “Submit”)
      Watch Ron Paul: A New Hope @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA (8 mins, 45 secs)
      A RON PAUL REVOLUTION! CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY:

      • END THE FEDERAL RESERVE CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEM
      • END THE IRS TAX CODE ABUSED OFTEN BY HOUSE AND SENATE, AND IMPLEMENT IN ITS PLACE A FAIR/FLAT CONSUMER-BASED TAX
      • END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM FLOODING HOUSING, LABOR, AND EDUCATIONAL MARKETS (USE CONSTITUTIONAL METHODS ONLY FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
      • RETURN SOVEREIGNTY (PEOPLE VOTES) TO THE STATES FOR ALL SOCIAL ISSUES
      • SHRINK THE SIZE OF GROWING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
      • END CORRUPT AND ECONOMICALLY-OPPRESSIVE POLITICAL AND SPECIAL INTEREST WARS (“WAR ON POVERTY,” “WAR ON TERROR,” “WAR ON DRUGS,” ETC…) (These are explained by Paul in detail on websites provided – they are ignored in mainstream media)
      • STRENGTHEN U.S. MILITARY DEFENSE SYSTEM
      • STRENGTHEN AND TEST U.S. WEAPONS FOR DEFENSIVE (NOT OFFENSIVE) MEASURES (A.K.A., NON-INTERVENTIONALISM)
      • STRENGTHEN U.S. BORDERS
      • RETURN CIVIL LIBERTIES TO THE PEOPLE!
      • RETURN FREE MARKETS TO THE PEOPLE! AN UNREGULATED FREE-SOCIETY, LASSIEZ-FAIRE CAPITALISTIC ECONOMIC SYSTEM
      • END THE CORPTOCRACY (COLLUSION BETWEEN BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS!) WITH A FREE SOCIETY THAT REJECTS BOTH!

      VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES AND IN 2012! FIND OUT HOW AT http://www.ronpaul2012.com! HE IS LEADING ALL THE CPAC STRAW AND POPULAR OPINION POLLS BECAUSE HE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMERICAN HERITAGE!

      When I get low, I print more. I must have passed around 200 or more in the past 2-3 weeks! It is good to be in busines with liberty today; Liberty’s competitor “lies” is not doing so hot. =)

      In Liberty,

      Kat

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  • Mark

    Ron Paul is a modern day Founding Father in Todays terms and time

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    • fred the protectionist

      Dang I can’t thumbs down more than once, shucks.

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