26 responses to “Ron Paul on AntiWar Radio”

  1. Bottomline

    Gee how old are you? Like Five!

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  2. Yvonne

    This is the wrong fight.
    We are fighting to protect the oil interest of a wicked wicked leadership.
    They are controlling the media.
    So far they haven’t contolled our freedom of speech on the inter net.
    But it’s coming.
    Soon the gov’t will find a way to deem any political opponent as a ”potential terrorist” and the gov’t will be able to detain political opponents and take away their constitutional rights. All freedom removed.
    Overseas Muslims are not our enemy.

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  3. rtljmc

    i dont think he is a deciever but people will rebel and ron paul is the face of the revolution . he doesnt believe in war or fighting to he still thinks voting is not rigged . he will have enough people to rebel if he knows he should have won in 2012

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  4. edewit08

    Thank you for positive sharing.
    Ron Paul is the best icon of freedom I know.
    He is not perfect candinate but best known worldwide.
    We need to act now as Ron Paul is dooing. Keep momentum going!
    The old fashioned banking & world oligarcy is collapsing in its own byrocracy and taxes..
    Love and light of wisdom to us all.
    Eric

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  5. Bottomline

    we don’t need more war and foreign aid spending either. Thank You Dr. Paul!

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  6. funnyguise

    the only way I think he might be a deceiver is that he knows more than he’s telling us and can’t tell because then he’d be written off as conspiracy nut.

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  7. W33Dblazer

    i know many people are gonna thumbs down this but Ron Paul is a deceiver. This whole politics thing is just a game to keep you guys distracted. and I do support his causes so dont think im jus talking some shit on him. and 2012? come on you people think you’ll have a option by then? you Americans need to take action now!!!!

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  8. Cstrife234

    The only reason for income tax is to pay the loans that the representation takes from the Federal Reserve and the interest, to be able to wage bullshit wars that nobody really believes in, except the sheep who think that War = Patriotism. That’s called Imperialism. We can never pay the interest off, ergo, we are eternally in debt. That’s the definition of slavery. A man who cannot pay off his debt is a slave and must work for to pay to live, day to day. He has no time to do things he loves.

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    1. Ben

      I’ve never known a person in my entire life who has ever said that “War = Patriotism”. You’re making this up. I don’t know a single person who has ever said any such thing. You’ve invented a fake argument in placed it into the mouths of your opponents.

      I do, however, believe that sabotaging the war effort while the troops are in the field for your own political gain is extremely unpatriotic.

      Also, if you can’t build a case for the so-called “anti-war” argument without lying, then your case must not be very strong. For example, when Ron Paul says that there is no al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, he is lying. He knows that if he uses the truth as a starting point, his argument doesn’t logically follow.

      I remember this January when Scott Brown was debating Martha (Marcia) Coakley for the US Senate. She said the same thing–that there is no al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. People laughed her out of the room. No one could believe that she said such a boneheaded thing. It wasn’t more than a month later when Ron Paul said the exact same thing and no one (to my knowledge) called him on it.

      Ron Paul knows that the words coming out his mouth are untrue. The last time I checked, that’s called lying.

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      1. Yvonne

        Ben those who oppose the anti-war movement claim we are UNpatriotic.
        So then conversely we would assume that, according to that reasoning, to support the war would be patriotic.
        So they are therefore claiming that War = Patriotism.
        Which it doesn’t.
        And Dr. Paul is not a liar.

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        1. Ben

          No, Yvonne. I don’t think that opposing war is unpatriotic, although I have been accused on numerous occassions of being unpatriotic myself because I support our war effort. Often by Ron Paul thugs.

          I only ask one thing of so-called “anti-war” types. Base your argument against the war in truth. If you can’t do that, then you are lying. And yes, I do think that lying in order to undermine the mission is unpatriotic.

          You don’t think that Ron Paul lies, huh? Tell me, is there any al-Qaeda in Afghanistan? The answer is yes. Earlier this year, Ron Paul said, with a straight face, that there is no al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Therefor, we aren’t really kicking the butts of the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. That’s probably the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard in my life, but Ron Paul makes such ridiculous claims because it’s central to his misinformation campaign regarding Afghanistan.

          In order for something to be a lie, it must fulfill two requirements. First, it must be untrue, and second, the speaker must know that it is untrue. So let’s see–there is al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Does Ron Paul know this? Considering the fact that he’s a Congressman and gets briefings on this stuff all the time and suppsoedly keeps up with the affairs of our nation, I think we can safely say that he does know that al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan.

          He HAS TO LIE. If he told the truth–that we’re still in the same justified battle against the same people who attacked us and murdered 3,000 innocents–he wouldn’t be able to make his followers lose heart in the mission at hand. But that’s what he seems intent on doing.

          I call that unpatriotic.

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        2. Ben

          Ron Paul’s not a liar, huh?

          I could annihilate that sentence so many ways, it’s hard to know where to start. I’ll give one example–the infamous Ron Paul newsletters.

          I’m sure you’ve heard of them. He said some pretty politically incorrect things about blacks and homosexuals. I like to quote them to Paulbots to show them that Ron Paul wasn’t always a slave to the homosexual lobby. He once had the courage to oppose the gay-stapo, and he was very bit as libertarian then as he is now, if not more so. He has since lost that nerve.

          In any case, his explanation of the letters has evolved over time. He has given three seperate stories, and they can’t all be true. At least two of them have to be lies. In 1996, when he first ran for Congress against Lefty Morris, he defended his newsletters. He used the old “taken out of context” defense, but he didn’t deny that he had written them or that he was right in saying what he said.

          By 2001, he had decided that the newsletters were the product of a ghost-writer and that he hadn’t even seen them before they went out. The ghost-writer’s opinions were not Paul’s, and he never would have allowed them to be published if he had known.

          By 2008, he had decided that he’d never even heard of the newsletters. Ron Paul newsletter–what the heck is that? Never heard of such a thing. Must have been having a senior moment.

          Ron Paul was lying in 1996, 2001, and/or 2008. But it’s literally impossible for all three of those statements to be true.

          Thank you for allowing me to demonstrate that Ron Paul is a liar.

          http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter

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        3. Yvonne

          This web site is not run by Ron Paul. It’s about him but all sorts of things are written by all sorts of people.
          I think it is possible that a newsletter went out and that he was unaware of everything in the newsletter.

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  9. ghosttwo2

    He said he wouldn’t run in 2012, and when he says something, he means it.

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    1. Ben

      When he says something, he means it?

      I guess he meant every word ever printed in his newsletters. Especially the stuff about black people and homosexuals.

      http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-revealed/

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  10. Haileo20

    Ron Paul is the man keep up the great job and please run in 2012.

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  11. 1shabuti1

    I await your instructions for further action Dr. Paul. Please run in 2012. You are an honest decent man and I for one will follow you anywhere and get used to real freedom as it should be.

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    1. Ben

      “I await your instructions for further action Dr. Paul”

      And Paulots wonder why I call them Paulbots. Personally, I don’t “await instructions” from any elected official. I’m no one’s footsoldier, I’m not part of anyone’s army. I kind of expect my elected officials to respond to my concerns, to do what I tell them to do. Not the other way around.

      Sheesh. Brainwashed much?

      Your attitude reminds me of the celebrities who made that “I pledge allegiance to Barrack Obama” video back in January ’09. Remember that one? It was creepy.

      “I pledge to be a servant to our president and all mankind,” said the Obamabots. Just substitute Paul’s name and you’ve got yourself a Paulbot.

      http://themoderatevoice.com/25945/the-obama-pledge-video/

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      1. Yvonne

        You cannot be soooo pro-military and pro-war and then claim that you do not believe in following instructions.
        And within the context of this site we can assume that the poster is awaiting instructions about campaigning.
        Campaigning.
        We are not talking about nuking or shooting or bombing people in other countries.
        Nothing mindlessly robotic about following an anti-war politician on a campaign trail.

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        1. Ben

          Yvonne, let me clear some things up for you. I am in favor of soldiers following orders from their officers and the commander-in-chief. But I’m not a soldier. Not anymore, any way. I’m not in favor of citizens following orders from Congressmen who happen to have an incrediblely persuasive presence. That’s creepy. It’s the cult of personality. If any one ever said that they would follow George Bush anywhere and they were simply awaiting his orders, you’d find that creepy too. It’s the antithesis of free thinking, which ir ironic because fans of Paul always make certain to express to me that they are radically individualist in their thought process.

          No, we cannot safely assume that he’s only talking about a campaign. He said that he’d follow Ron Paul anywhere. That’s weird. I’ve met some of these cult members at CPAC conventions. They are not all right in the head. Homoerotic is the word I’m looking for.

          I cannot imagine having that kind of devotion to a political candidate. And to actually admit it, like it’s a good thing! I don’t get attached to my candidates in that manner. I have lived long enough to know that politicians disappoint.

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        2. Ben

          Also, I’m NOT pro-war. If that’s the way you understand my stance, well you just don’t get it.

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      2. Bottomline

        Ben, and you’re just a DUMB old NEO-CON, that has no problem with military spending and foreign aid spending!

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        1. Ben

          I’m not dumb, in fact I make mincemeat out of Paulbots on this site all the time.

          I’m not a “neo-con”. I’m not a paleo-con either. I’m just a conservative.

          I think military spending is just fine. It’s a legitimate constitutional function of the federal government. (Unlike Ron Paul’s pet pork barrel projects that he loads into spending bills). There are bad guys out there and I’d like to have the biggest and the best military in the whole world. I don’t apologize for that.

          Foreign aid? I’ve never said anything about foreign aid. I don’t know where you discerned that. Certainly not from anything I’ve said.

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        2. Ben

          Oh yeah, and how do you know that I’m old? I’ve never mentioned my age on this site.

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        3. Lindsey

          Ben: Dr Paul is described by Citizens Against Government Waste as a “Taxpayer Hero” with a score of 88% last year. Only 58 US House Reps. scored above 80% to earn this rating. Not bad for a guy that you accuse of loading pork into spending bills! (This compares to Pelosi’s 0% rating and Jim DeMint’s 98%) DeMint is THE MAN of course but Paul is doing very well Ben.

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  12. katey1dog

    We don’t need big tanks.

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