63 responses to “Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed Fails 229-198”

  1. spud tooley

    b.d.:
    This will be on the table again in 2011, when the House majority is Republican, and many new members are liberty-minded.

    me:
    should your prediction come to pass - a republican majority - i'd bet you dollars to donuts that they won't pass a vote to audit the fed, much less pass something that does a legitimate audit. i would even go so far as to wager that an audit-the-fed bill doesn't even get a straight up or down vote.

    as to freddie and fannie, any legislation against them is as too-narrowedly focused as what just got passed. the republicans want to say the only problem is the GSEs; the dems want to say the only problem is the banks. each is wrong in itself, but right in combination.

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  2. sk1951

    We just saw the bill to audit the feds being shot down with 320 cosponsors...truly remarkable. Ron Paul is doing all he can to wake people up to the plight of the dollar. But few are interested...YET. Here is another bill 4248 that has only ONE sponsor Ron Paul...proof that the feds have no interest in helping America to stop the inflation.

    I wish the Tea Party would take one step further and not only want taxes overhauled but ask that our financial structure also be overhauled. The Federal Reserve must be rained in.

    The problem is that RP makes to much sense for the common man. Common man wants the NWO and "wealth distribution." The United States...well no...the "Federated America" is in an all out world take over bid. They have used the shiny coin entitlement stratagem to blind the American entitlement "social" crowd instilling a feeling in them of safety in the arms of Uncle Sam... They are clueless of where their benefits even come from. They are unwilling to see that social means socialistic in the words of the wealth redistributes.

    The NWO has tested and seceded in this stratagem in America and now hope to blind and take over the world with this re distribution of wealth scam currently called cap and trade. The world stands ready to take the worthless checks from America to build on a sand foundation. Once most of the world is under the hypnotic spell of the almighty dollar and its socialistic benefactor...the plug will be pulled and the NWO financial domination will ensue. Our government has become evil. One world government will not be won with armies. It will be won with financial stratagem.

    Ron Paul stands alone. He is not for government he is for the people. He is old world old school and old "organic" constitutionalists. He will probably go down in history with little or no notice of him in the history books. But he will burn forever in my heart and in the hand full of the true and real patriots of the true Republic or the United States...for which HE stands...

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  3. Dave

    shouldn't be a question of auditing the fed...should begin process to abolish it....we already know what the audit will show.

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    1. Jake Witmer

      We already all know that Dave is correct.

      As an addenda: Those of you who have read the masterpiece "The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" truly understand this issue.

      The Federal Reserve is literally the tool of government slave owners. We are their slaves, whom they give a great deal of freedom to, so long as we remain on the plantation, using "plantation scrip" (Federal Reserve Notes).

      Now, I am of the mind that the corruption goes even further: people who are morally corrupt seek government positions, and people who are not morally corrupt seek to provide value in exchange for value. Hmmmm, let me see, are these enlightenment values? YES! Everyone from Friedrich Hayek, Lysanders Spooner, Henry David Thoreau, Ayn Rand, Leonard Peikoff, Thomas Paine, and even newly-converted Marxists like Christopher Hitchens agree with this.

      There is a consensus, even among those who are relatively uninformed: the Federal Reserve is USURY.

      So the question is: DO WE UNITE AGAINST IT AS MEN, WHO DARE TO PROTECT OUR OWN LIBERTY?

      or

      DO WE COWER DOWN LIKE DOGS, AND LICK THE HAND THAT FEEDS US (AND BEATS US)?!!!

      Your answer determines what kind of man you are.

      If you are a man, not a dog, add my cell number to your cell phone. No matter what state you are in, no matter what area you are in, no matter who you are, if you agree with individual freedom, you have a friend, and a brother in IDEAS.

      Even the people on this board that I think are totally wrong (the people who oppose immigration, abortion, libertarianism, etc...) have more figured out than most people, if they only want to abolish the Federal Reserve. For that feat of thinking, they have a friend in me. Even better if they oppose the Orwellian foreign wars without end.

      So keep on challenging your own ideas. In this way, we will return America to liberty. And make sure your actions are consistent with your ideas, so you are not a hypocrite! If your ideas say "buy a rifle, or you are not prepared" then, buy a rifle. Listen to people who have lead the way, like Boston T. Party, and his masterpiece, "Molon Labe".

      Follow the truth, and you will find yourself among friends.

      Follow a lie, and you will find yourself the centerpiece at a banquet of cannibals.

      That's all I have to say. If I can communicate nothing else, my message is true, and complete.

      But I have more to offer: I was a Libertarian Party petitioner from 2001 to 2010. I have seen political betrayal, and learned the hard way who my friends really are. I have seen organized and successful efforts to infiltrate the Libertarian Party and the libertarian movement.

      I post my phone number in most of my posts, and people don't bother to call. They are busy with their own lives.

      Too bad. If everyone posted their phone numbers on every post, the good people would be able to unite with local good people faster than the spooks could infiltrate and disorganize them. This is the principle of connectivity as the vital building block of organization.

      Right now, freedom fighters don't post their numbers, for two reasons:
      1) They don't want to communicate with other freedom lovers
      2) They feel it will compromise their security and allow government goons into their lives

      #1 is lazy, and #2 is unrealistic. As far as #2 is concerned: There is already no privacy. The goons already know who you are. There is no keeping a "low profile" in the USSA. It's best to talk to everyone.

      Just my .02.

      Individual Freedom, Peace,

      --Jake Witmer
      907-250-5503

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      1. sk1951

        I truly enjoyed your comments. Though I worry about your immigration stance. I offer this video for your view and ask for a comment on it. Thank You. This is the short 4 min version.

        Immigration Gumballs
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgz6ZCqhtg

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  4. spud tooley

    >Spud: I believe that an up or down vote on auditing the Fed will disclose
    >the Senators and Reps true feelings about it.

    lindsey, 100% agreed. however, i just don't think this vote was that vote.

    >Also, if you go back to the original vote on TARP you will find the ones that voted
    >against TARP as reliable allies (there are a few exceptions) in the movement to audit
    > the Fed.

    depends. is that the first tarp vote, or the second? the house had a lot of nays that went yea on the second vote. in that regards it seems hard to tell what those first votes actually meant.

    [blatant political paragraph coming...]

    if any of you are in georgia congressional district #13, i urge you to consider voting in the primary for republican mike crane. he seems to be a very level-headed guy. i've voted for incumbent david scott (democrat) a couple of times, but i don't think that being a rubber stamp for the president is useful anymore. deborah travis-honeycutt is a republican candidate for the third consecutive election; she has raised gobs more money than anyone else, but most of this money is from out-of-state. further, she calls herself an 'independent republican', which to me is like 'jumbo shrimp', 'fair tax' and 'rap music'... :)

    sorry to be overtly political, but the primary is fast approaching...

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  5. Sean

    I am totally for Auditing the Fed, but someone here got me thinking. Was this measure as simple as who wants to Audit the Fed? I know that the Government oftentimes pins on other non-related bills to these things. Is it possible that there was a bunch of undesirable stuff pinned onto this one? Any idea how I can find this out on my own? I do really want to be educated in this and fully understand what really went down here. I would really like to know from each person, why they voted against Auditing the Fed. I can't think of any reason to be against this, unless I am corupt and in someones pocket.

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  6. spud tooley

    lindsey, i just don't think it's that simple.

    your point: 'the people who voted against the measure are just not sold on the reason for the audit.' i think i give them more credit than that (pun intended). i think they know full well the reason for the audit. as do republicans. and i think they are both against a meaningful audit.

    as i drop in here and there on the internet and discuss things with people, the only consistent point i try to make is that government as it stands now does not comprise a bunch of folks on white horses and a bunch of folks on black horses. there are very, very few folks on white horses, and their voices are seldom heard in the political climate we're in, where both sides show little tolerance for rational thinking and good solutions.

    it's pretty clear to me that the way the vote was packaged did not mean the republicans were up for a strict audit of the fed, and the democrats weren't. lest we forget, it was the republicans - with hank paulson at the center - who packaged the bulk of the tarp, and gave it no-strings-attached through the fed to the banks. and all of a sudden they are the good guys screaming that we need to know what's going on inside the banking system? that i cannot believe.

    if they are the white knights, then they are grossly stupid and seem to have been royally duped less that two years ago.

    -mr

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    1. Lindsey

      Spud: I believe that an up or down vote on auditing the Fed will disclose the Senators and Reps true feelings about it. Also, if you go back to the original vote on TARP you will find the ones that voted against TARP as reliable allies (there are a few exceptions) in the movement to audit the Fed. I agree with you that most were not duped although some were and now realize it. We need to give those people the benefit of the doubt if they will come out and say they were duped.

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  7. Joe "Lysander Spooner Meme" Sixpack

    Just string the bastards who co-sponsored it but voted against it up. This was political deception, and even most Democrats and Republicans don't agree with political deception. Sadly, too few of them know that this went on. It's our job to inform them, until our numbers are great enough to march on Washington DC and eliminate this bogus puppet government.

    Individual Freedom, Peace

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    1. Lindsey

      Sixpack: String 'em up!!!!!!!!!!

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      1. Steven126

        Ron Paul has clarified this issue in detail. Any Senator or Representative who does not understand that the U.S. will be dissolved by the International Bankers should watch THE MONEY MASTERS on You Tube. The Charter Bank needs to lose its charter for the U.S. to survive. The next step is to dissolve our borders. All other issues are irrelevant in the face of The American Union, The European Union, The African Union, and the Asian Union.

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  8. spud tooley

    after doing a little digging, i don't think this post is being totally honest.

    the republicans wanted to send the financial reform bill back to conference committee to try to weaken (my view - yours may be different) the already too-weak (my view) provisions about margins around derivatives. they had the previous commitment of the 320 members of congress who indicated they were in favor of the audit, so they used this as a ploy to say, 'you said you were for this - here's your chance to really vote for it - and by the way, if you vote for it, the bill goes back to committee, and if you don't, we have you on record as being against an audit of the fed.'

    in short, it was really political game-playing, and not a straight up, 'are you in favor of auditing the fed?' which this post implies.

    if the amendment had come up by itself, my hunch is it would have found a more favorable reception - but, then again, i think everyone in congress is beholden to the banks in some way, so either a real audit would likely fail, or a meaningless audit would pass.

    but to paint the republicans as saviors of the people and desiring in their hearts to rid the hold that the banks and corporations have on our county - would anyone really believe that - even in a movie? c'mon. let's remain intelligent here. who among you didn't raise eyebrows when you saw the title of the bill and which party was lock-step in favor of it?

    bottom line is i think we need to be a little more honest here about what really happened. leave the spin to someone else. truth wins out.

    my two cents.
    -mr

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    1. sk1951

      Darn... I suppose you are right...

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    2. Lindsey

      Spud: Obviously the people who voted against the measure are just not sold on the reason for the audit. The reason is that we don't trust the Fed. These people that voted against the measure that sponsored it don't understand the importance of the issue and probably co-sponsored it just to say they are for transparency! Obviously when push comes to shove they are in the Fed's corner and NOT for transparency!

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    3. Mark

      The bottom line is that there are always "little games" and manipulation that goes on. There is never a perfect "straight up" bill in today's political world.

      Therefore, the truth is that you give up a little to help out a lot...that's what working together means. This is a MAJOR issue and all should have voted for it.

      Irregardless I didn't see it as savior moment for the GOP or a devil moment for the dems. The GOP knows it's not in power so they had more reason to vote for it. The dems figured they win by voting against it because "a" bill will still pass.

      One is corrupt as the other...pathetic

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  9. Jerry M Fares

    PLEASE RE-DUE THE LIST OF YEHS AND ESP. NAYS IN MORE DETAIL, STATE, CITY COUNTY PARTY EVEN ADDRESSES OR EMAILS ADRESS SO I CAN SEND THEM A PEICE OF MY MIND, AND I'M SURE , ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IN CYBERWORLD, MIGHT WANT TO DO THE SAME. THANKS

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    1. Mark

      What good does that do? Won't change a thing and only make you feel better. When are people going to get directly involved in the political process?

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  10. Rozanna

    To my delight and complete shock...was happy to see Titus (NV) on the Yah list to represent the people. Quite a shock cause I thought NV was in complete support of NWO criminals.

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  11. Citizen

    This FED CRIME of debasing our currency has its corrupt roots in 16th century history, the infamous John Law said of his scheme to debase the French monetary system that

    "Raising [debasing] the Money in France is laying a Tax on
    the People, which is sooner pay’d, and thought to be less felt
    than a Tax laid on any other way. . . . This Tax falls heavy on
    the poorer sort of the People."

    This began following the death of the Sun King Louie the 14th in 1715 and resulted in the eventual financial collapse of France altogether.

    The sad part of the FEDS massive "Bernie-Ponzi" style currency debasing scheme is that the FEDS is LICENSED TO STEAL from the poorest people of our once great nation, while lining the pockets of the wealthiest politically connected scum bags.

    BOTTOM LINE:
    It is going to take the likes of Ron Paul time 10 and the support of every Tea Party and Constitutionalists Conservative WE THE PEOPLE can muster.

    GO RON PAUL 2012!!!

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  12. Cheri Brill

    Keep pressing on!

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    1. Lee

      What did 1207 do?
      #1 It got us motivated to bug our Congressmen to co-sponsor Ron Paul's bill.
      #2 We forced congressmen through our communications to do just that.
      # 3 Proved that an organized opposition can force congress to pay attention to us and actually join our side even if it's only temporary.

      We all knew, or at least suspected, that dirty tricks were waiting to kill the bill, but it forced Bernanke and that entire establishment bunch to join forces to respond to this clear and present danger to their "house of cards " operation. It proved that an organized electorate can get these types of freedom bills moving forward even when the entire establishment is called in to stop it! The dumb and stupid ordinary congressman was shaken to some degree and took notice that his constituents are concerned with other things besides pork.

      We all should be proud of that achievment but we all know what we need in congress are more Ron Paul- type congressmen.

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  13. sk1951

    Make a copy of the Nay's and make sure you vote against them. Better yet...vote against them all. And make sure to learn more about EO powers.

    Our courts turned against us and created a dictatorship.

    The courts in 1937 decreed that treaties, known as executive agreements, signed by presidents Executive Orders do not require consensus or approval by either the legislative (Congress) or judicial (U.S. Supreme Court) branches of the government.
    http://vactruth.com/2010/06/14/fourth-stealth-branch-of-governance-presidential-executive-orders/

    "The Constitution for the United States" to re-iterate the wording of clause four of the "Preamble" ,i.e., "promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this CONSTITUTION for the United States of America" and to emphasize that this is a charter that "We the People" have given to the united States, and not that the States or the National Government has given to "We the People". It is "We the People", the Sovereign Citizens, who must, through our efforts and responsibilities, secure this Charter of Liberty, Freedom and for Responsible Government for All Future Generations.

    The authority of government lies entirely and irrevocably within the Body of The Whole, "We The People".

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/constit1.html#Ab

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  14. Dennis Kolb Sr.

    I ADMIRE RON PAUL'S EFFORTS TO GET, ANY HANDLE, ON AN OUT-OF-CONTROL GOVERNMENT,BUT WE ARE THE ONE'S TO BLAIME FOR OUR GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS!~~~~NO ONE ELSE!~~~~
    "WE HAVE ALLOWED", AND EVEN ENCOURAGED IT'S UN-CONTROLED MUSCLES TO OVER-POWER AND CONTROL US! THIS WAS DONE UN-KNOWINGLY, BUT WILLINGLY TO US, THRU OUR SUPPORT OF POLTICAL PARTIES INTO OUR REPUBLIC!
    GEORGE WASHINGTON WARNED US ABOUT ALLOWING POLITICAL PARTIES INTO OUR "REPRESENTAIVE REPUBLIC", AND WARNED OF THEIR, "HORRID ENORMITIES", WHICH IS A DIRECT RESULT, AND CHARACTERISTIC OF; "THE SPIRIT OF THE PARTIES"!
    WE LOOK FOR STRENGTH AND SUPPORT FROM WITHIN OUR PARTIES, INSTEAD OF SEARCHING ALL THE WAYS THAT PARTIES ARE DESTROYING ALL OF OUR RIGHT'S AND LIBERTIES!

    GEORGE WASHINGTON'S VISIONARY WARNINGS ABOUT POLITICAL PARTY INVOVEMENT INTO OUR REPUBLIC CAN BE FOUND IN HIS FAREWELL ADDRESS TO THE NATION!(paragraphs=20-25.)~~~~HERE IS JUST PARAGRAPH 22, OF HIS ADDRESS;(REFERING TO POLITICAL PARTIES CONTINUAL INVOLVEMENT IN OUR SYSTEM)~~~~~:THE ALTERNATE DOMINATION OF ONE FACTION OVER ANOTHER, SHARPENED BY THE SPIRIT OF REVENGE,NATURAL TO PARTY DISSENSION,WHICH IN DIFFERENT AGES AND COUNTRIES HAS PERPETUATED THE MOST HORRID ENORMITIES,IS ITSELF A FRIGHTFUL DESPOTISM.BUT THIS LEADS AT LENGTH TO A MORE FORMAL AND PERMANENT DESPOTISM.THE DISORDERS AND MISERIES,WHICH RESULT,GRADUALLY INCLINE THE MINDS OF MEN TO SEEK SECURITY AND REPOSE IN THE ABSOLUTE POWER OF AN INDIVIDUAL;AND SOONER OR LATER THE CHIEF OF SOME PREVAILING FACTION,MORE ABLE OR MORE FORTUNATE THAN HIS COMPETITORS,TURNS THIS DISPOSITION OF THE PURPOSES OF HIS OWN ELEVATION,ON THE RUINS OF PUBLIC LIBERTY."

    RESTORING AMERICA TO IT'S FORMER GLORY AND PUTTING AN END TO OUR OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT,WILL TAKE MUCH MORE THAN AN AUDITING THE FED OR EVEN PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS WITH POLITICIANS AT ELECTION TIME!~~~IT WILL TAKE AMERICAN'S USING COMMON SENSE ACTIONS TO RESTORE WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHER'S INTENDED US TO HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    REMOVING ALL SUPPORT FROM ALL PARTIES AND THEIR CANDITATES WOULD BE A GIANT STEP IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION!

    PLEASE READ WASHINGTON'S WARNINGS!

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    1. Steven126

      Ron Paul has clarified this issue in detail. Any Senator or Representative who does not understand that the U.S. will be dissolved by the International Bankers should watch THE MONEY MASTERS on You Tube. The Charter Bank needs to lose its charter for the U.S. to survive. Their next step is to dissolve our borders. All other issues are irrelevant in the face of The American Union, The European Union, The African Union, and the Asian Union.

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  15. DAN

    This flip flop of support to rejection shows just how much respect the bozos have for the CONSTITUTION and the people. This means that no respect should be shown to any polititian, unless they will follow the CONSTITUTION.
    Therefore ,I will address and respond to public officials when they are speaking too persaude me to vote for them, with an ' in your face ' you are lying and are not to be respected attitude.
    It is way past time to put these public servents in their place. And since most incumbants have not obeyed their oath, they will not receive ANY respect from me. In fact they need to be shouted down and disgraced in public.

    Tea parties need to get aggressive, since we see how elected officials have responded to kid gloves and cordial questions.

    Our REPUBLIC will end up on the trash heap of history,unless we start to show disrepect and civil disobediance to the UNCONSTITUTIONAL rules and laws of the masters . Our CONgress has be bought and paid for and no kind words will make them change their behavior.

    Vote them all out is my wish, but if we keep playing by their rules we will run out of time and loose our REPUBLIC. I for one will go to the mat to stop that from happening.

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    1. Lee

      "Our REPUBLIC will end up on the trash heap of history,unless we start to show disrepect and civil disobediance to the UNCONSTITUTIONAL rules and laws of the masters . Our CONgress has be bought and paid for and no kind words will make them change their behavior." ----Dan

      Why allow the central authorities to use this form of protest (street civil disobedience)
      to use as an excuse to impose martial law? We have the Net to organize our meetings and events so that will be taken away under the pretext of bringing "order to society."

      Agent provacateurs have no doubt been at Tea Party type marches seeking ways to stir up the crowds.

      This type of tactic (civil disobedience) is strictly reserved for the Left. It is used effectively by the left but the left has the assitance of the managed Major Media to make them look less evil than they really are. In the case of these leftwing nuts protesting at G-20 summit meeting I would not be surprised to learn that the G-20 summiters pay these anarchists to demonstrate at these events.

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    2. Dan Richardson

      TO : DAN
      July 3, 2010 at 2:39 pm
      Your comments are right on!

      " It is way past time to put these public servents in their place. And since most incumbants have not obeyed their oath, they will not receive ANY respect from me. In fact they need to be shouted down and disgraced in public." This is exactly what I did this past June in South Carolina to a man that violated his "Oath of Office" many times.

      Olde Bail-out Barrett voted for CAFTA, Fast Track, TARP under Bush. This had the devaasting effect of sending our jobs overseas and increasing our Illegal invasion problems also. Then he had the nerve of running for Governor with a solgan: "Putting South Carolina back to work"! What a hippocrate!

      Yes, I have been called a Liar by some of his people But, check his voting record (Congressional Record) and see for your self.

      Next, Dan you commented: "Tea parties need to get aggressive, since we see how elected officials have responded to kid gloves and cordial questions."

      I agree with this comment too! However, the Greenwood County (Lakelands) Tea Party led by a few "Olde Bail-Out" Barrett supporters actually endorsed him for governor AFTER LEARNING THE TRUTH about violating his Oath of Office to support the US Constitution and HOW HE VOTED!

      SO, I suggest the TEA PARTIES not endorse a candidate currently holding office, only show his voting record and his adherence to the constitution!

      All, candidates not holding office or prior office, the TEA PArties should show what the candidate has said, printed, and or statements signed pledging to do.

      I for one will not support a candidate that has "comprised this principle"!

      Save our Republic!

      Danr

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  16. spud tooley

    "principle" does not mean inability to compromise.

    the founding fathers who framed the consitution: did they not stand on principle?

    would we need a three-branch, co-equal, nine-member supreme court if 'principle' meant the inability to compromise?

    it's the your-view-only-counts-if-it's-the-same-as-mine mindset that's the problem.

    on the 18th amendment: listening to what the talking heads and politicians say every day, we might think about going back to it...

    i am all for auditing the fed. i doubt i'll believe what they find, but they certainly should be given a once-over.

    but i'm as principled as anyone. i just recognize that other's have priniciples, too, and i learned as a child that i don't always have to get my way.

    (actually, i really never learned that... but i try to practice it here and there...)

    -mr

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  17. Lee

    My Representative Martin Henrich signed on as a co-sponsor of 1207. My guess is that he saw that a majority of House members were on board and didn't want to have voters in New Mexico's 1st cong. district confront him with the question of "why didn't you co-sponsor 1207?"

    When push came to shove he caved and voted "NAY"

    Heinrich showed his "progressive" colors. That color is yellow and it isn't progressive at all but regressive.

    In case any of you live in New Mexico this is Heinrich's contact info:
    http://heinrich.house.gov/

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  18. spud tooley

    my cynical view (and it's gotten extremely cynical, though i continue to support our president) is that this is a smoke and mirrors vote. i believe a lot of times there are backroom deals to get the result everyone wants and allow each side to do a little posturing in the process. if not that, then i'm convinced the republicans knew it was going to fail, and that they used the opp'y to appear to support something anti-business when in fact they remain addicted to big banks and big business.

    i don't know that we'll ever audit the fed. i don't know that the results of an audit would be believable anyway. i know without a doubt that there is not a chance in hell that an amendment can be added to or removed from the constitution in the political climate we're in.

    i finished 'end the fed' last week - obviously a well thought-out, well-written book. i downloaded 'what has the government done to our money' from mises this past week - it, too, seems to be common sense.

    but to really think that one party wants to have the ability to control money and the other doesn't is naive beyond belief. tea partiers, in my cynical view, are being played by the republicans to stay 'agitated' and help achieve victory in the fall. but then what ... nothing major is going to happen that affects the control the big banks have on our government.

    not sure if there is an answer.

    i think we have to get out of these 'major fixes' that try to turn the titanic 90 or 180 degrees. if there is a gradual way to move back to meaningful money, we should pursue it. if it's a wholesale change-everything approach, forget it. if people continue the arrogance of believing they 'stand on principle', and are unwilling to find a compromise, we'll remain stuck forever. it's like nose-spray: if you use it, you're only guaranteeing that your body raises the production of agents that will ensure your congestion is worse when the nose spray wears off. ie, you let one side own the show for awhile, you only ensure that the people on the other side will rise up and wind up trying to own it again the next go-round (we saw it in 2008, we may see it in 2010/12). and we are no better off with either solution.

    simply put, i don't think the people in congress are smart enough to address the problems facing the country and the world today.

    but i do like scott brown - if the tea party is suckered into supporting people like him, i'm all for their candidates in the fall.

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    1. John Whitehead

      I find it interesting that you use the words principle and compromise as if you can maintain your principles and yet still have compromise. This is where I get completely confused by our current political climate. We should be able to have meaningful debate and reach consensus even it is in the end, that we agree to disagree. All the while maintaining our principles.

      The auditing of the Fed for me is a matter of principle. Just as a balanced budget is. The problem we have in American today is that we fail to maintain our principles if we have any at all. Everything has been diminished to relativism and our it is our principles that we have sacrificed in the process.

      The simple question is why would everyone not vote in this time of financial uncertainty to "audit" the Fed. How can this be a bad thing? Or maybe it is so bad that we shouldn't know the truth. Transparency, oh what a cloudy picture.

      Either way, the auditing of the Fed is a matter of principle!

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      1. Steven126

        It's called compromising your principles.

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    2. Sheri

      Spud, I couldn't have said it better myself. Finally, there is someone out there that isn't falling for this left/right nonsense.
      My first thought was that the Republicans only voted for this to look good to their constituents, all the while knowing that this bill was going to fail. These pompous, out-of-touch deceivers would never give the "people" power over their own money, much less allow them to know where it is being spent.

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  19. Dan Richardson

    Along with the AUDIT the FED we need to recind the 18th Amendment to the US Constitution.

    The 18th Amendment has been the biggest bon-doggle ever!

    In a republic, which we have, the elected representatives ( House & and; Senators) are to represent a specific entity (the people of the congressional district through apportionment {the purpose of the census} by the Congressman and the State {a political subdivision} by the two Senators.

    As initially set out in the constitution each state would be represented in the "upper house" (senate) by two senators from each state, appointed by the state legislature (not directly elected by the people but indirectly by the people through their elected representatives, state senators and state house representatives.

    This method of chosing the US Senators was "close to home".

    This also allowed what is known as "Recall"! The state legislature could in effect remove a senator. Call him home and replace with another that would vote / represent the state's interest.

    We need to get back to the basics of representative government.

    Save our republic!

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    1. Yvonne

      Are you sure you mean the 18th ammendment? I thought that was the prohibition ammendment and that it was already recinded?

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    2. Dan Richardson

      In my "Posted Comment" on July 3rd I made the mistake of using the "18th" It should have been the "17th" Amendment instead. I was simply using the keyboard in a hurried time of "editing" my comments and over looked this portion.

      Please forgive!

      Save our Republic,

      DanR

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  20. Marco

    What a cowardly bunch of scumbags these naysayers are! Well that's fine, because now your NO vote is on record and this will make your fall from power even faster and harder than before. You showed the American people EXACTLY where you stand and that's standing in s%*t! This isn't over scumbags, not by a damn sight! This bill will be back again and again and again until you can't fight it off any more, so sleep lightly because your going to see the people you screwed over in your dreams.

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  21. Carol

    Vote all these dummies out of office!!! Get rid of the Fed and start printing our own
    money, instead of paying the Fed for doing it. If we don't get rid of them we are doomed!!!

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  22. CroonerSings

    Guys and Gals,

    Unfortunately as much as I would love for the FED to be ENDED, the truth of the matter is that the FED RES machine is hard at work enslaving every man woman and child in the world, and it really doesn't matter how anybody votes. At least not since we were sold back into slavery by our own president Woodrow Wilson.

    Since then it has been a Trifecta effort between the Federal Reserve (Banks), Corporations, and Politicians...in essence their own little Tri lateral commission et al.

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  23. William

    Since my comment was removed(withing an hour of posting) for some strange reason(after multiple thumbs up).. I'll say this again..
    There is no need in auditing the fed.. Ending the Fed, Yes! Auditing would be a joke and not done properly(we all KNOW that).

    The Fed Res is illegal. The money is counterfeit. The money is worthless.. Not backed by gold or anything except illusion..

    ITS TIME WE TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK! It's open fire season on treasonous scum! What are you waiting for, an invitation? They've given us many. They're taunting us. Martial law is inevitable, if it's not then we cave without a fight. The longer you wait, the worse it's going to get! BTW- Voting is not fighting. Especially when they count the votes(doesn't matter-they don't listen anyway.. )If you people don't WAKE UP and fight now, then your children are done for.. and so are you.. and so is America... The longer you wait to take action or for the 'television' to tell you what to do.. the more your ensuring the fate of you, yours.. and of this great country.
    Unfortunately, I can't find a person here that will stand up with me and fight! Bunch of whining cowards we seem to be.. All talk, no action. Well, these turncoat evil doers are plenty action.. While you all sit back and watch American Idol.. bitching between commercial possibly.. not-doing a-dam-thing-PERIOD!

    I wish I knew other people with balls.. excuse me. People that actually act like they have them , I should say.. Lots claim.. Then nobody steps up. Hmm.. It's scary how accepting Americans are being of our Constitution being shredded/violated... THE CONSTITUTION WILL NOT ENFORCE ITSELF!

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  24. Citizen

    Sadly the corruption is entrenched and the Progressives have the purse strings for now.

    The FED is the Progressive's power source, their political slush fund, and they intend to use that power starting Oct 2010 through the 2012 elections.

    The Progressives will flood the Country with billions of counterfeit dollars to BUY the Elections to keep them in power. 58% of the TARP money remains unspent and they intend to use it for every political advantage to Buy the Votes.

    The Financial Reform Bill is sham legislation to maintain the vale of secrecy of the FED, Fanny and Freddy. All three GSE's are now rooks to keep Corruption in Power.

    Remember, "In God We Trust"
    This is a battle for the minds and souls of our nation, pray and vote and pray some more.

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  25. bruce

    These bunch of horse dung that voted against the American people need to be taken out and beat.

    THIS IS A CRIME against all of us!

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  26. Ken

    SAD, MOST SAD.
    In the end, all fiat currencies fail. This will fail very badly because of size.
    Our Government is the biggest debtor, ever, in the entire history of the world.
    This could not happen without a government approved private central bank that
    issues fiat currency and sells the government debt put on us by our representatives.

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  27. Mark

    They would have to shut down the Federal Reserve if they ever ran a complete audit on them. That would be just fine with me. Lets get back on the gold standard and place the Money making business back in the hands of the government with NO USERY. We can then afford to build the scaffolds to hang the owners of the Federal Reserve and those in office protecting them, for treasonous acts against the People/Nation financialy. Just getting them out of office with their ill gotten gains is not justice.

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  28. Chris Taylor

    Ever year i become more ashamed as Congress continues to hand civil liberties to crooks and psychopathic corporations, and pull them away form the civil people. This cant continue, it will only end up in the suffering of the many... Just look at the gulf... SCREW OBAMA, that trader im voting for someones else next term, and SCREW HALF OF CONGRESS i plan on paying close attention to who is voting for civil liberties for the people and against corrupted corporations. , and the rats are not gettign my vote. Freedom is Personal responsibility, and i plan on making the people around me know who "Smiley Glad Hand" is with his hidden agendas.

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  29. hardrain77

    How in the world does Kucinich vote Nay on it? He's given speeches about the Fed.

    Somebody must've really got to him after he held out on Health Care reform. That's the only way he can justify it without seeming like he sold out as well. They must've threatened his wife, or something like that.

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  30. George

    Its clear to see who the progressives are now.. time for them to go..

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  31. j. sagan

    Isn't Alan Grayson a Democrat?

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  32. B.D.Harper

    This will be on the table again in 2011, when the House majority is Republican, and many new members are liberty-minded.

    How despicable that so many are corrupt.
    There is no reason not to support a full audit if you are for the people. This is what the people want, not some watered-down one-time examination of only a small portion of history. That isn't a fair view of the effectiveness of the Federal Reserve. How can we hope to truly evaluate them if we only have one tiny segment of history to fully know, and the rest remains ambiguous?
    These politicians clearly do not think like the people, but as politicians, speaking on behalf not of their constituents, but their private interest campaign investors.

    I hope the voters wake up and get rid of the democrat incumbents, and those republicans who are not for personal liberty, in November, because it's necessary to minimize the impending depression.

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  33. Darus

    Vote everybody who said no out now those damn sleesy scumbags who voted people like that in? Are people that stupid

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  34. Vic Anderson

    Wait, the story IS : How did 120 DEM co-sponsors "desert the ship" and sink IT? Which were the RATS among them (I smell Emanuel!)?

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  35. Bottomline

    Thanks for presenting us the voting tallies for those who support auditing the fed and those who don't. Those who don't are a bunch of foxes guarding the hen house. Those Democrats who voted with you and all of the other Republicans did the right thing! I say throw the bums out who voted against auditing the Fed!

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