Date: 07/05/2010
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News Anchor: Here to talk further about that rift is a man who’s had his own share of differences with Republican leadership, that is Texas Republican Congressman, former presidential candidate, Ron Paul. Dr. Paul, thanks for joining us. Let me start first with this: why are you the only Republican defending Michael Steel?
Ron Paul: Well, I don’t know exactly why there’d be just me, but I’m sure a lot of others that are very sympathetic. But I think it has to do with who the media goes to. They go to people who want to condemn him and stir up a fight and see if they can have a battle in the Republican Party. I think that that’s what is going on. But I think the better question is not whether there are three or four or five who have declared themselves leaders of the Republican Party, I just wonder how many grassroots Americans believe that an individual who blurted out the truth that he sort of backtracked on, should be kicked out of office because of that. The majority of America people agree with what he said. But this whole thing, and I think they distorted this event about what Chairman Steel said about this being Obama’s war. This is sort of like Nixon in 1968 saying, “This is Nixon’s war – the Vietnam war”, and he went on and managed to have a war and 30,000 more Americans were killed. So yes, yes. I think it is Obama’s war because he has called this the good war and he fought for more troops over there. And the war is going badly. We’ve had the worst month in June.
News Anchor: Alright, first of all, you have said this previously, you came out defending Michael Steel, so I’m curious, have you spoken with him or had any contact with him?
Ron Paul: No, no I haven’t. I just thought that he did not deserve to be punished through the media in the sense that, “Get out, we don’t want you, we don’t need you”. I think the party is doing reasonably well, we’re winning elections and we’re going to do well in November. … why should we change?
News Anchor: Hang on a second. Listen for a moment to what John McCain and Lindsey Graham, two very respected leaders in your party had to say over the weekend. This is not just the media, this is what McCain and Graham had to say. If we can play that sample:
John McCain: I think those statements are wildly inaccurate and there is no excuse for them. Chairman Steel sent me an email saying that his remarks were misconstrued. The fact is that I think that Mr. Steel is going to have to access as to whether he can still lead the Republican Party as the chairman of the Republican National Committee, and make an appropriate decision.
Lindsey Graham: It was an uninformed, unnecessary, unwise, untimely comment.
News Anchor: So my question here is: does the Republican Party not brook dissent?
Ron: Does not look what?
News Anchor: Brook, does not accept dissent? Is there a reluctance to listen to dissenting points of view? Is that what you’re frustrated about?
Ron: Well, the whole thing is I think his statement was rather accurate. I mean, what he was saying, he was expressing the way millions of Americans feel frustrated that this war has gone on too long, it’s costs us too much money; hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of casualties, people coming back here, deaths are up to 5000 people of all the wars that we’ve been fighting over there. People are tired of the war and it’s going badly. I mean, we just fired our General, which means that things aren’t going well over there. But you can’t even continue the plan to go into Kandahar and Marja was a total failure, and they’re going to pretend they’re painting it over and they’re deceiving the American people just as they were deceived in the 1960s. I lived through that, I was in the Air force then, and I don’t think the American people want to be deceived anymore. So when the chairman of a party in a private conversation …
News Anchor: With respect, sir, the latest CNN polling shows 66% of Republicans favor the war in Afghanistan, favor it.
Ron Paul: Okay, but 66% of the Republicans can’t elect a president, you have to appeal to 66% of the Americans. And believe me, the biggest party in this country right now are the independents, and they’re sick of this war. And if the Republican Party wants to truly become the No. 1 party, they have to speak to the independents, which they’re not doing. And this is what they did in the 2008 election. They lost because of the Iraqi war and the foreign policy that they were managing. And you just can’t continue to do this. This country is broke spending a trillion dollars on our foreign policy.
Ron Paul: Sir, are you and Michael Steel speaking for a quite minority in your party? Do you think there is a growing minority in your party that opposes this war?
Ron Paul: Well, I think there is a growing number, but I think it’s close to the majority, but it’s the majority of American people. Think of all the progressive Democrats who have to put up with Obama. Why is it that it’s not good political talk for what Steel said? I mean, here Obama is trying to appeal to his base by saying, “Oh, we’re going to be out in a year”, at the same time he is appealing to the neo-cons who say, “We want more war.” He says, “I’ll take all the troops we can, because we’re going to win this war”. But the truth is the politicians and the military people do not believe there is a chance of a military victory. So our troops are being trained to fight wars that they are not allowed to fight wars, they’ve tired of themselves, and this is not a very good policy that we have. This is a war that is not really a war.
News Anchor: General Petraeus would disagree with you, and we will follow up with that after this break, please stay with us.
Late this afternoon Texas officials confirmed that tar balls found in Galveston County beaches this weekend are from the BP oil spill, even though the well is 400 miles offshore. Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul’s district includes Galveston. So, Dr. Paul, it’s day 77 of the oil spill. Tar balls today reportedly washed up in Galveston County, that’s your district. In your view, is the Obama administration doing enough to stop the oil spill?
Ron Paul: Well, no, not really. And I think they’ve done a lot to interfere. For instance, a lot of local official property owners and state officials have wanted to do more over in Louisiana and Mississippi. And the federal government – the fish and wildlife people and the EPA and others come in and they prohibit them from doing it. For instance, you know, one thing I would like that do is related to our previous subject, if all our states had their guard units back here, maybe they would have the manpower to do more to help clean up the beaches and prevent this oil from coming in. But no, our guard units are all round the world are fighting wars that we don’t need to fight. So I would say let’s fight this war here at home with our borders, as well as the oil coming on our shores. But, you know, I’ve lived on the beach down here for 18 years, I don’t personally a house there now, but I did. And every time we went to the beach we had to scrub our feet because we had tar balls. So even though they say this is come from the spill, well, I will wait and see just exactly where this has come from.
News Anchor: Let me turn to another member of your family who’s in the news these days. Rand Paul, your son, is running for Senate in Kentucky. He has been criticized by some national figures, including Senator Mitch McConnell, hwo while he didn’t overtly criticize him, at one point said he has done enough national media and maybe should keep it quiet for a while. Do you feel that your son has been given a bad rap by either the national media or the leaders of your party?
Ron Paul: Well, I think it’s just generally yes, he does some bad raps, but I guess I didn’t warn him enough and prepare him enough, that’s what this political stuff is all about. You can expect it, especially after you win a primary and beat the establishment, you can sort of expect something, and then expect it from both, not only your opponents in the party, but also your opponents from the other parties as well. So, yes. But really he needs to become a senator. He has a great chance of doing it, the polls show him ahead and he needs to be at home campaigning which he is so good at. I mean, he campaigned very, very hard in the primary, and he had the Tea Party Movement behind him. And his turnouts in the Tea Party were sometimes two and three and our times bigger than any Republican Party turnout.
News Anchor: Let me ask you about that because he’s vowed to the Tea Party faithful who were supporters of his that he would not hold fund raisers in Washington or take money from folks who voted for the big bailout, which is so unpopular among them. He was here, he held a fund raiser with some of these very same people. He’s been criticized for that. Is your son being unfaithful to his principles?
Ron Paul: Well, you’re just putting some words out there whether you’re right or not. Somebody else is going to have to determine it. But I know I’ve gone to two fund raisers for him in Washington and both were for the young people, and I think they paid $25 to come. We had a large turnout of young people, because that’s exactly the groups that are attracted to what I’ve been talking about. So I was very, very pleased. What he is doing with pack money … you know, I always says, you know, I don’t get any pack money, but I would take it because it’s under law. I’d take pack money. But I don’t get it because it’s not worth the investment. So it is perfectly legal for him to take pack money. And what he has done, you’ll have to ask him, don’t ask me about it, because I do not know the details of the campaign. I did him one big favor, I let him run his own campaign and I didn’t get involved in any details of what he was doing.
News Anchor: Alright, Dr. Paul, it is always a pleasure to talk to you, and we will do it again on this show, I’m certain, in the future. Thanks so much for joining us.
Ron Paul: Thank you.
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GO RON PAUL, YOU ARE THE MAN!
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Michael Steele told it like it is and so is Ron Paul. Now the GOP is going to throw him under the bus because if the base of support (GOP voters) realizes this war is a waste it will be called for it to end. It’s not that we can kill the enemy but we can’t beat their morale. They have no fear of death like we do. They hope nothing more than to die for their cause.
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Brook dissent???? Are you speaking English?
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bitch let him talk
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Weve seen this before. Military complex is making loads of money on war. They dont want it to end. Corporations are in charge. Theyre probably selling arms to bin laden while selling arms to US army? Corporations only care about profit.
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Typical CNN, rail-roading their owner’s agenda by talking over Ron Paul’s rational ideas and perceptions of the Afghan war.
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WTF did he say?
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Shut that bitch up and let Mr. Paul speak ffs… I’ve never seen a news host interrupt someone so much.
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Read “Crude Politics.” Winning the war only means obtaining a stable government favorable to an oil pipe line through Afghanistan & driving a war economy that lasted 10 years. Secretary of State, Condalisa Rice and Afghan President Karzai both had prior relationships with the partners in the oil pipe line. VP Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton who supplied the war & wants to construct the pipe line. Partners: Saudi royal family (Delta Oil), Chevron/Texaco, BP Amoco, Unocal, etc..
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Ron Paul is SO RIGHTEOUS!!!
May our Father in Heaven continue to inspire and guide him with TRUTH of the Word and the REAL interpretation of our Constitution!
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time to get out of wars and into fixing America, we got roads to build, houses to fix, and create jobs that better America. I’m tired of war….
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We need to elect Ron Paul in 2012 we need honest politicians! America wants the TRUTH!!!!Cx3
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7:32 lol I love the echo.
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Rand Paul is horrible. Ron Paul is pretty good. I’d be glad to have him as a running mate of Dennis Kucinich (as he’s said he would himself)
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Ron Paul pwns the main stream media’s lies about WDMs and their propaganda. He is trying to stop Obama from confiscating my guns. Obama is not getting my guns. Ron Paul for president the only honest person in congress.
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so true ron paul
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5:45 “General Petraeus would disagree with you” No shit; what else would he do? That’s like saying “Oh, so you think Wendy’s has the best hamburgers? Well I think Ronald McDonald would disagree with you.”
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That newscaster really sucks at her job.
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what a wannabe propaganda hit piece. President Paul saw right through it. Never saw him get upset. Good for him! MSM is crap. And if I remember correct. Steele is a neocon. Probably being used to tear apart the tea party, Republicans.
Ron Paul my President!
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I’ve watched this twice. Did that “news-babe” have any idea what she was talking about?
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Dr. Ron Paul is definitely a joy to listen to. It is unfortunate that this lady interviewing him kept throwing questions without allowing him to finish his statements. I would have loved to keep listening to Dr. Ron Paul, but this female interviewer did not seem to have all what it takes to be a good listener as well as a good interviwer. Great job Dr. Ron Paul, and I hope one day you will become the President! You appear to be extremely intelligent!
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does anyone ask them self how ron paul gets all this air time now when he was running no one wanted to talk to him now he is on almost every week but when he was running they said the midea is controlled and they didnt want him talking because he speaks the truth and stuff now what would you say he is on almost every week fox msnbc cnn everything
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John McCain is NOT respected by me.
INSANE “THE SAME” McCAIN
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What is it about Ron Paul that politicians and news reporters just can’t cooperate with him? It seems to me that he owns all of them all before they can even interrupt him..
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You just answered your own question…so there you go!
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Victory? Winning what? That’s such a dumb ignorant war…
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Ron Paul Is My President! Let Our Voices Be Heard In 2012!! i am happy to of been part of the Ron Paul Revolution since ’08 and i am anxious to continue the Revolution.
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there will never be 3rd and 4th parties .. because the democrats and republicans would fight it because that means they would be screwed!!
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(Part II) What I wrote to CNN on the website.
Hi
On July 5th Jessica Yellin interviewed Ron Paul on John King USA. I think Jessica interrupted Ron Paul. I thought she was very RUDE! I think he would be allowed to actually finish what he is saying before any question is asked. Yes, I’m sure she has questions she has planned to ask. In this case I think more time should be allotted to the interview. I hope no other reporters at CNN interrupt him the way she did a couple of days ago.
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(Part I)
The name of the RUDE reporter is Jessica Yellin. I didn’t like the fact she interrupted Ron Paul. I went to the CNN website and complained about it.
I will add a COPY of what I sent to CNN in another comment.
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Ron Paul is tired of the media and his ego is getting bigger with his popularity, he is fed up.
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this girl is a typical CNN aroggant bitch. Shut the hell up. Ron Paul owns her. Why do these morons keep on arguing? He is always right.
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bad interviewer!
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@CanadaBoy123 Maybe you can not “rebut” anything; that is why you have to deny me being serious and also why you get angry and curse instead of arguing.
All you bring to the table (re war on terror etc.) is pure resentment.
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they’re only sharpening their knives in Afghanistan, testing their weapons and their strategy for the third world war they have planned against Muslims for years.. read Albert Pike..
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wait…. why are we at war again?
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Ron Paul needs to run third party!
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notice how as soon as he brought up Vietnam history she jumped in trying to change the subject. Objective? lol
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I wonder how a brain scan of this interviewers will look like in real time. It might solve a biological puzzle not yet answered. The problem is that it is an issue of ‘freedom’ when not authorized, and that is an important distinction.
Very persistent the issue of morality in relation to faithfulness and work, or life in general. It is set officially as a political issue. It has cache. It has proven efficiency.
Ladies, please, don’t screw up now that the gender is closer to equal human value. The walk uphill is still very hard, yet
Oh well, now we must conclude is a problem of the economy.
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I think I should apply for a job as broadcaster at CNN. It seems like the only qualifications are being disrespect and talk over the guest.
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@hoink23 Obvious troll is obvious.
I won’t even rebut your comment; piss off.
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People here are worshipping Paul.
Same people don’t give a damn when the Taliban or some other crazy illiterate lunatics return to their traditional ways of murdering women every friday after prayer at the stadium.
Also, Paul kept claiming Iraq wasn’t winnable, a disaster etc. – wrong obviously; the fascist dictator Hussein and his psycho gangster family were removed, they had elections over there, Al-Quaida has been dealt a blow etc: it is looking better.
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Wake up Republicans, to the greatest asset you possess: Ron Paul.
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I think I should apply for a job as broadcaster at CNN. It seems like the only qualifications are being disrespect and talk over the quest.
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So glad Ron Paul is starting to speak over the interviewers when they begin to interrupt him. He didn’t do that in 2008 and I feel it hurt him. Glad to see him turn pitbull.
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John McCain… respected??? lol… that guy is a douche.
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Agreed 1000000 %
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“Ron Paul: No Chance of Military Victory in Afghanistan”
I agree, because if you look at the past history of Afghanistan and just as recent as the Soviet Union (next door superpower) invasion in 1980, none of the invaders has ever succeeded.
The Soviet Union still haven’t recovered from the mistake of invading that country. Are we also going to be the next Soviet Union for Afghanistan?
Bring the troops home and save the nation from going bankrupt.
Here is an interesting PDF file I found which shows exactly who are we fighting?
http://www.crisisstates.com/download/op/OP7Tariq.pdf
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Ron seemed like he was fired up at the beginning of this interview.
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Thank you Dr. Paul for putting American first rather than your party or your pocket as other politician do so often now days. This is another reason we the people love you and support you.
Whenever we the people listen to your interview, You make us proud to be an American.
Thank you, and may God bless you.
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i think michael steele was right in what he said…i mean i’m betting that he’s saying that for political reasons and not because he truly believes in non-interventionism like dr. paul but whatever, doesn’t make his statement not true.
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