185 responses to “Ron Paul Questions U.S. Mint on Gold Coin Shortage”

  1. OrganicDrew

    all you ron paul fans out there “like myself” if you love Gold Coins and Liberty your going to Love listening to this guy George Gordon dot com.. listen to his introduction audio series 1 through 8 .. then you will realize how awesome gold and silver money is.

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  2. Dfens

    Clearly Paul wants the Fed to coin more gold so his Chinese masters can suck more of it out of this country. What are those of you who are for a “gold standard” going to do when there is no gold left in this country? Will you adopt a lead standard instead?

    China has moved to liberalise its gold market further, increasing the number of banks allowed to trade bullion internationally and announcing measures that will encourage development of gold-linked investment products.

    The move by Beijing’s central bank comes as the country’s investors pour record amounts of money into gold, in a trend that is becoming a significant factor on global prices.

    Last year, Chinese investors bought 73 tonnes of bullion, up from 18 tonnes in 2007. The new policies were likely to increase liquidity in the domestic gold market and spur the development of gold financial products, analysts said.

    China is the world’s largest gold producer and the second-largest consumer, after India, but its domestic market remains constrained by limited investment products.

    “This is a positive sign for the gold market,” said James Steel, precious metals strategist at HSBC in New York.

    “The Chinese statement reaffirms the vigour of the emerging markets’ demand for retail physical bullion.”

    Gold prices rose in London, partly on the back of China’s announcement, but also on signs of robust buying from India’s jewellery sector.

    Spot bullion traded at $1,190 a troy ounce, up from a three-month low of less than $1,160 an ounce last week.

    GFMS, the London-based precious metals consultancy, said recently that Chinese investors, who are building wealth at an unprecedented rate, were diversifying their assets into gold to “protect themselves against inflation”. Financial Times

    I believe America is a great country. I believe our politicians should look out for the best interests of our nation and not for the best interests of a few or of foreign countries like China or Saudi Arabia. Those of you who are so “in love” with Ron Paul should be asking some more critical questions regarding just exactly who his policies favor. Or you can keep believing every answer you get from politicians and keep getting exactly what you’ve always got.

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    1. Citizen

      Dfens,
      Who said we had to pay the ChiComs in gold???
      Not us Libertarians… We will keep OUR gold and continue to pay the ChiComs with more paper IOU’s, and until eventually they won’t want our US Treasury IOUs.
      That’s what our Government is doing with the SSN fund, replacing old IOUs with newer IOUs.

      Keep in mind that a “Trade Deficit” (exterior debt) is a far better thing than our National Debt (internal).
      As long as the ChiComs and others trust the Dollar, (fools) then we the US citizens benefit from them selling us stuff for printed fiat currency. But once they realize that those Dollars are equal to toilet paper, they’ll stop taking Dollars as payment.

      But our National Deficit Spending (internal debt) is a far more serious problem because we the people are diluting our future wealth and mortgaging our children’s future for our indulgences today. Not a good thing by any standard.

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  3. kc9gpj

    what is a planchet?

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  4. HiPointMan

    great job ron some just dont get the more you print the less its worth. -RESTORE GOOD MONEY and ENDTHEFED.

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  5. ShawnHydedotcom

    How does 90% of the voting population not vote for this guy?

    people stop voting against a party, and start voting for a president!

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  6. dontblockmedk

    Money property system is ROOT of ALL problems, it creates/exploits scarcity, never creates enough jobs, allows people on top to control everyone/thing

    1. people need food, water, energy, etc.

    2. sharing all resources and knowledge allows maximum cooperative efficiency

    3. creating an abundance of all our needs makes money, gov, crime obsolete

    4. automating the production distribution, frees up humanity to no longer be wage slaves to governments or corporations

    v=YxPPnCW6sMo
    v=yPmHaTirnCc

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  7. schulwitz

    OMG, there’s a reptilian behind Ron Paul at 0:58!

    Then, at 8:50, the guy warns him by saying “someone with a separate set of eyes”.

    Freaky shit!

    »crosslinked«

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  8. GB

    fred the protectionist
    July 25, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    That analogy puts your comments over the top in the Ridiculousness Department.

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  9. josephmclellan

    I love this guy… He should have mentioned NorFed and his mug on the gold coin.

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  10. kylezo

    dont wanna lose that OH TEN…yeah good ol ’010 was a good year

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  11. sarobinson56

    I voted for Ron Paul last time, I dontated money twice, I told all my friends and family that Dr. Paul is the only politician in Washington with any integrity. I’ll vote for him again, and I’ll do anything I can to help him win.

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  12. Machine2063

    Ron Paul is truly hope for our country, real change! Ron Paul fights for integrity accountability and responsibility back to DC yet again! GO RON PAUL GO!

    RON PAUL 2012!

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  13. MikeM3113

    gold standard one way constitution ensured sound economics, check of government. hold of value, couldn’t be means government to fund in red programs via FED/Treasury.Ever hear phrase “worthless as continental”?!paper fiat money nothing new during writing of constitution.’Our’ system of ‘money creation’ relying on debt is means by which many irresponsible out of control DC bureaucracy programs are funded via the FED/treasury!

    GO RON PAUL for defending sound economics/responsibility/transparency!

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  14. MikeM3113

    how did WE THE PEOPLE ever give the profits of US DOLLAR creation, tying it to DEBT CREATION, leading to lucrative profits of a privatized banking cartel for the creation of every ‘US dollar’!? Constitution called for an honest system based on sound economics, a hold of value! Checked against government and ensured responsibility! Almost every check/provision on the government by the constitution has been usurped, if not completely ignored by out of control irresponsible DC!

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  15. MikeM3113

    You imply gold has no value Escape2SegaSity. NO! PAPER HAS NO VALUE! To ignore how FED is used to enable out of control debt to fund unlimited expansion of Obama/Bush in the red programs via FED/Treasury is a leap in logic you fool!

    Don’t defend this unconstitutional banking cartel system (given more secrecy/non-transparency by corporatist Bush/Obama type agendas!). The UNFEDERAL NONRESERVE banking cartel makes real profits from mere creation of our own US dollars tied to debt creation!

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    1. fred the protectionist

      “NO! PAPER HAS NO VALUE! ”

      Apparently neither do Libertarians have value. *giggles*

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  16. Mills141

    ron pual 2012??? im going to vote for him even if he is not on the balot

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  17. drutter

    Oh Ronny. Why do you always make so much sense? :)

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    1. Forest

      hopefully there aren’t spelling tests between now and then…

      http://board.muse.mu/wikiroot/images/7/75/Grammar_Nazi_Logo.jpg

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  18. bradq

    thats our ace up our sleeves for freedom. Article I, Section 10.

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  19. PlacentaPudding

    Ron Paul is a patriot.

    It’s not that he’s not qualified to be President, it is that our country is blindfolded and brainwashed; we don’t have the common sense or gall to elect such a man anymore. He can open doors to a better America, but we want them closed due to fear of real “hope” and true “change.”

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  20. campeona5

    Buy PHYSICAL SILVER…end the fiat paper ponzi!! Inflation is a stealth tax on every working citizen!!

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  21. TERRYMCKINNEY32

    This is what you get when your government,and ours,is owned through donations(bribes)from the corporations that own the world economy.

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  22. Orcbuu

    This man must be really the president but the amerikan people love there thick celebs and superstars (Obama the Bastard) more then there freedom, rights, and even more the World.
    Im not an Amerikan im an Free-Human-Orderer

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  23. rast123456789

    Alright Everyone we gotta spread the word of Liberty and Peace aka Ron Paul Remember Grass roots movements are key. Post signs and pass out literature in your own town spread it on the web be creative. Long Live the rEVOLolution!!!

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  24. msungs

    End the Fed! The Federal Reserve as Federal as Federal Express. They are going after the pennies. I predicted this when I learned that pennies that are made pre-1982 are over 95% copper. The Republic is burning. I see this video only has 14,000 views, meanwhile American Idol and Rap crap have millions. We have an uninformed/uneducated citizenry. End the Fed. Peter Schiff and Ron Paul for President 2012. I am glad I moved to Germany to get away from the “Owe”bama/Bernanke Regime.

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  25. LordSparkisvati

    This is what Rome must have felt like in their last few years. There is no way this can continue.

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    1. Forest

      Fortunately throughout history, while these shrill apocalyptic cries go to be wholly unfounded, American society continues to thrive despite you know-nothing not-helping doomsayers – time and time again. Must be confusing to have to live in that rabbit hole decade after decade, even with history piling up against you.

      Circa 1964:

      “The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millenialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date for the apocalypse. (“Time is running out,” said Welch in 1951. “Evidence is piling up on many sides and from many sources that October 1952 is the fatal month when Stalin will attack.”)”

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      1. GB

        Yeah, a $13 trillion national debt and a dollar losing about 95% of its purchasing power since 1913 are sure signs of greatness.

        And your quote is irrelevant.

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        1. Forest

          Do you feel like those guys walking around with a ‘THE END IS NEAR’ sign and wonder why everyone else isn’t freaking out? And why you are the only one in posession of this sacred knowledge.

          Oh the burden you bear.

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  26. Bottomline

    Why is our petty government so timid to make coins, gold and silver our official currency? Because they want to opress us with a piece of paper that is not really about currency.

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    1. fred the protectionist

      Ron Paul is such a Merchantilist, obsessed with hoarding gold at all costs. Or he’s a Dragon that wants to sit on his pile of gold. Or a leprechan, “Where’s me pot of gold.”

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      1. GB

        I thought mercantilists (such as France some time ago) were into trade protection, producing everything in house.

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        1. fred the protectionist

          Yes I know that’s what Free Traders think, because you are all brainwashed by your own talking points.

          Merchantilism is about governments primary obsession with hoarding GOLD, and that’s about it. If it can be done through trade like the British Empire did, then that’s how you hoard GOLD. If it can be done by protecting your markets, then that is how you hoard GOLD.

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    2. Forest

      Actually, maybe you should be asking why every time, in the history of the civilization, a country that has gone on the gold standard – that gold standard has failed.

      While you are at it, maybe ask yourself why 100% of all transactions occur across the planet, without requiring gold to transact, balance, or settle.

      Must be mind-blowing to open your eyes and see that the world can exist without your little preciousssssss…

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      1. Bottomline

        Well isn’t that nice that you two trolls defend your girlfriend the government and you both are willy nilly! & it’s sad that you guys aren’t willing to accept the truth! Fred and Forest you two are like Brothers who have make no sense and willing to accpet a piece of paper as your currency! Good luck with your little funny money.

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        1. fred the protectionist

          Turning “The Government” into the villain just don’t ring well with most folks, try turning “The Jews” into a villain instead. Makes more sense, and it’s had a great success rate in history.

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        2. David

          Roflmao, Bottomline this is perfect, you said that so well LOLOLOLOL :)

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  27. Citizen

    Again Dr. Paul tells it as it is!
    Our Government screws up everything it manages including minting coins.

    Now how the heck can the US Mint run out of planchets???
    Oh, OOOH… I forgot they don’t allow supplier competition and can only purchase from three (3) inept exclusive contract vendors, rather than soliciting open markets for planchets, you know that thing called “Free Trade” isn’t practical for our US Government.

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  28. OurTimeIsOut

    Is the valueless dollar even made in America anymore?

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    1. fred the protectionist

      Give all your dollars to me if it is so value’less.

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    2. Forest

      I’ll take your ‘worthless’ dollars too!

      And, you can go watch them get printed if you like – not that I wouldn’t expect you to ACTUALLY see it before your plane rams into the side of the building.

      See? Start a conversation with some rhetorical drivel and it doesn’t do much for progressing a conversation?

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  29. makewuvnotwar

    The constitution gives congress the power to coin money, and set up the measures of precious metals the coins contain. The constitution does not give congress the power to print paper money, or the authority, to delegate it’s authority, to Jewish banking cartels.

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    1. Dfens

      Seriously, can you not read? I’ve quoted the Constitution, explained what it said, and gave you a link so you could read the quote in context. What more do I have to do to explain this to you? If you’d rather hate than engage your brain even for a single tiny second, then by all means, support Ron Paul. Maybe they can find a special place for all of you people.

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  30. Dfens

    No State shall… make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; – US Constitution

    Sorry about the double negative, these aren’t my words, but those of the founding fathers. This part of the US Constitution has been read by normal Americans to me any state can coin it’s own gold and silver coins. Why do the Libertarians focus all their energies on the federal government when right now without any new laws they could get all 50 states to coin gold and silver money?

    Maybe the states aren’t stupid? Maybe the states know we owe communist China more that $9 trillion and they don’t want to be sucked dry of all their gold reserves?

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    1. Citizen

      I’m surprised Dfens, you actually made a valid point regarding America’s massive deficit spending and the resulting Debt.

      YES the States can and probably should begin minting their own currency in either Gold or Silver, But the FED would have to PERMIT (change the current law) to allow these coins to be used as LEGAL TENDER and not tax US in FRNs when their magic inflationary machines forces the bullion up
      AND
      NO the Chinese would not “suck dry all our gold reserves”, mainly because Gold and Silver are measured by weight and not denominated in fixed Federal Reserve Notes values. Of course that’s assuming that Tim isn’t stupid enough to try and fix the FRNs value to 1 ounce of Gold or Silver coins while simultaneously printing more green wallpaper.
      Today Gold trades for around 1,250 Federal Reserve Notes (aka Dollars) and that will likely run up to 2,500 to 5,000 FRNs very soon if Tim and Ben keep papering the streets with FRNs.

      The beauty of the Gold or Silver standard is that We the People gain back control of our currency as a “Store of Value” and could voluntarily exchange our FRNs in for “real money” and thereby avoid most of the Government’s TAXATION BY CURRENCY DILUTION.

      “Free Trade” would be conducted by exchange of gold and silver ounces for goods and services. I can envision buying a new Ford Mustang for 1,200 silver ounces (not Dollars) or about what we paid for a 1965 Tang in Silver Dollars back then.

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      1. fred the protectionist

        Wrong, whoever we have a trade deficit would suck the US dry of gold in less then 6 months, and we’d be back on paper money before you can say “Free Market”.

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      2. Dfens

        Am I the only one who listens to what Ron Paul says? Uh, Citizen, the point Ron Paul makes is that the value of our currency would float with the market value of gold. The market value of gold right now is $1250/oz, that means a dollar would then be worth 1/1250th of an ounce of gold. That’s the market rate. If we back the dollar with gold at that rate then do you really think we have 5,600,000 ounces of gold in Ft. Knox? Because we have, at that point, guaranteed the Communist Chinese that we do and they will be first in line to cash in their dollar reserves for gold.

        The fact of the matter is, we don’t only have the Chinese to worry about. If we don’t have enough gold reserves to cover all of the M3 money out there at $1250/oz, then the the Congress will have to devalue the dollar until its value is low enough so they have the gold reserves to cover each and every dollar in circulation. In this scenario once we go to a gold standard your money will instantly be worth probably 1/1000th of what it was worth the day before. Is that your answer to “inflation” ? That’s stupid beyond belief. It would instantly take a truckload of dollars to buy a loaf of bread.

        I personally don’t have any problem with going to a gold standard if we use sufficient planning to do so, and we have sufficient market protections (tariffs) to give us at least a break even trade status with foreign countries. To go to a gold standard now would, just like all of Ron Paul’s economic plans, be national suicide right now. It would benefit no one but his Communist Chinese masters. Why do you people hate America so much? Move to Communist China if you love that country more than you do the USA.

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      3. Dfens

        Am I the only one who listens to what Ron Paul says? Uh, Citizen, the point Ron Paul makes is that the value of our currency would float with the market value of gold. The market value of gold right now is $1250/oz, that means a dollar would then be worth 1/1250th of an ounce of gold. That’s the market rate. If we back the dollar with gold at that rate then do you really think we have 5,600,000 ounces of gold in Ft. Knox? Because we have, at that point, guaranteed the Communist Chinese that we do and they will be first in line to cash in their dollar reserves for gold.

        The fact of the matter is, we don’t only have the Chinese to worry about. If we don’t have enough gold reserves to cover all of the M3 money out there at $1250/oz, then the the Congress will have to devalue the dollar until its value is low enough so they have the gold reserves to cover each and every dollar in circulation. In this scenario once we go to a gold standard your money will instantly be worth probably 1/1000th of what it was worth the day before. Is that your answer to “inflation”? It would instantly take a truckload of dollars to buy a loaf of bread.

        I personally don’t have any problem with going to a gold standard if we use sufficient planning to do so, and we have sufficient market protections (tariffs) to give us at least a break even trade status with foreign countries. To go to a gold standard now would, just like all of Ron Paul’s economic plans, be national suicide right now. It would benefit no one but his Communist Chinese masters.

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    2. fred the protectionist

      That statement in the Constitution seems to be more of another way to enforce the concept behind the “Dormant Commerce Clause”. If states could make their own paper money they could do what China is doing now, devaluing their currency to increase exports. Which would cause trade wars between the states.

      To the Ronulans, all they see when they read it is, “Gold! Constitution! Gold! Constitution and Gold! Gold and the Constitution! See SEE See See!!!” They have a slight reading impairment if you ask me.

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    3. fred the protectionist

      That statement in the Constitution seems to be more of another way to enforce the concept behind the “Dormant Commerce Clause”. If states could make their own paper money they could do what China is doing now, devaluing their currency to increase exports. Which would cause trade wars between the states.

      To the Libertarians, all they see when they read it is, “Gold! Constitution! Gold! Constitution and Gold! Gold and the Constitution! See SEE See See!!!” They have a slight reading impairment problem if you ask me.

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      1. fred the protectionist

        OK so cap locks and Roooonulan word will get you a “Comment under Moderation” effect, gotcha.

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        1. Dfens

          Anything will get you censored on this site.

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  31. ztT6Gkxx77

    What’s with that guy behind him staring at his head?

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  32. combovergi

    dont buy gold coins 30-40% mark up here in the UK, not sold on weight alone they say their rare it not true.

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    1. Forest

      Don’t buy gold from the UK, tungsten-plated coins from Russia are running rampant.

      :O

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      1. fred the protectionist

        Fiat gold, omg

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  33. Dan I

    Is paper, redeemable in NOTHING, money?

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  34. iannetta11

    Is paper, redeemable in NOTHING, money?

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  35. ShawnHydedotcom

    Could one not make gold in to small pieces and mark them for size? It would not technically be minting coins so anyone should be able to do it. and unless they outlaw free trade then we should all be able to use them in trade yes?

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    1. Forest

      Yep! It’s really that easy!

      Just make tons of coins in, what, roughly 12 sizes ranging from $0.01 to $100, carry around super-fine scales to validate another persons money, testing kit to insure that it isn’t just gold-plated tungsten, assay kit to insure it meets minimum purity standards, train all cashiers everywhere, retrofit cash registers, lets go back to mailing cash for all of our monthly payments, and things will go SO MUCH SMOOTHER.

      Genius man, just genius.

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      1. Machine

        To funny…your dispute is more a sign of ignorance and fear. Our current system has created a deep economic crisis, irresponsability, coruption, and a worthless dollar. As far as worring about conterfit coins…people do that with our current currency…10′s and 20′s are the most popular to pass off. By the way what kind of buisness do you do?

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        1. Forest

          Really? So when you buy a movie ticket you pass off a gold shaving that is 99% pure and weighing exactly 1/120th of an ounce? Is that EXACTLY what is happening right now?

          Your groceries come to $60, after you ride your horse and carriage into town, you somehow found one farming collective that not only has everything you want, but also takes gold. You just shave off 1/20th of an ounce?

          You worry about my ignorance and fear, don’t. I worry about your intellectual depth, as your spelling and baseless rhetoric, combined with a historical lack of knowledge and current business climate, is a sign of a horrible public school system, which concerns me far more than our existing, functional, fiat system.

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        2. Forest

          “Our current system has created a deep economic crisis, irresponsability, coruption”

          So, tell me where, and when, this utopian system existed that you so dearly yearn for?

          Where is this model of a large-scale society that exists, or has ever existed that had no corruption, no crisis EVER, completely stable, absolute responsibility, all costs and risks (owner, worker, enviornmental, societal) are equally shared – please, tell me where this ideal libertarian society is so that we may immediately model ourselves after it.

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        3. fred the protectionist

          *shaves off a sliver of gold from my rock and gives it to Forest* You’ve earned it. lol

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