Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque!

Congressman Ron Paul today released the following statement on the controversy concerning the construction of an Islamic Center and Mosque in New York City:

Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?

It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”

The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.

Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”

Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?

In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.

The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.

Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?

If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.

The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.

Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.

The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars.

The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.

This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.

Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.


  • Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

    Poorly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 11 Thumb down 49

  • Jon Mitchell

    Thank you Mr. Paul for being a voice for reason in the face of those who would rule others through emotion.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 31 Thumb down 11

  • David J. Leonti

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

    Poorly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 7 Thumb down 46

  • Lisa

    I love how Ron Paul calls out the bigots, demagogues and hypocrites on both sides of the aisle.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 37 Thumb down 6

  • Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

    Poorly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 5 Thumb down 40

    • wake up

      Stan, you are a moron.

      Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 18 Thumb down 5

  • Anthony

    Very well said. I am proud to have voted for you Rep. Paul and I would do it again in a heartbeat in 2012!

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 13 Thumb down 4

  • william ridenour

    JC wrote:
    “if we force this community center to move it will mean that we let the terrorists change who we are and what we stand for.”

    First, there is no means of “force,”—what is being ASKED is sensitivity and respect. But that is not why I’m responding to this quote.
    What I’m responding to is:
    “it will mean that we let the terrorists change who we are and what we stand for.”
    Just who are we? I can’t answer for everyone here, but I’m a Libertarian, but as I understand Libertarianism that does not mean I also have to be a fool. If it does I will cease to be a Libertarian, for I damned sure don’t intend to be played a fool–––especially by a force any and all except the ideologically blind can see to be malevolent and dangerous to freedom.
    I’ve heard this over and over and it makes me nauseous. Such thinking in no way comports with reality or reason. It is truly mindless Libertarian Ideology—mindless, NOT principled.
    Those who have a mutual, MUTUAL commitment to Liberty and individual Freedom can sanely and safely treat and regard each other the same.
    However, it is not a contradiction, nor do we lose who we are, if we treat and regard those differently who hate liberty and whose only interest in liberty and freedom is the game the system, take it over and establish their draconian ideology and unique legal system. (FACT: The Imam who is pushing the Mosque is in favor of establishing Sharia here in America.)

    Consider this analogy:
    If I live in a community where certain standards of behavior are common, no one there says, “Let’s make sure that we always do all we can to accommodate and treat robbers and thieves with the same standards of free movement and courtesy in our neighborhood that we share among one another—if we don’t we might lose who we are.”
    No sheep says “let’s all remember to treat the wolves the just as we do each other, lest we cease being sheep.”
    Madness. Treating the wolf the same is the surest way of ceasing to be a sheep–or to be at all.
    It’s simple nonsense to claim we’re obligated to treat those who want to steal our valuables with the same liberty and freedom of access as those who respect our valuables as we respect theirs.
    Has ideology made mindless idiots of us?!?

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 7 Thumb down 25

    • bill

      Asking for sensitivity and respect implies AMERICAN Muslims are culpable in the horrendous disaster that was 9/11. They simply aren’t responsible! But that is where this hysteria is directed! What good can possibly come from this?

      We need to be embracing fellow Americans no matter what faith they profess, and stop this divide and conquer politics while Wall Street banks rob the country blind.

      The Taliban and Al Qaeda could not exist without someone bankrolling. Those who bank roll them should be the ones that are attacked for insensitivity.

      Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 26 Thumb down 3

  • Bill

    Bravo Ron Paul!

    No Iraqi or Afghan attacked the 9/11 towers. Yet we invaded two countries based on the premise they did.

    This isn’t about protecting the sensitivities of those who had loved ones die in the Twin Towers, this is about perpetuating the myth that global war is necessary – and they want to expand it to a whole faith.

    There is far too much unexplained about the Twin Towers incident (especially building 7), and perhaps in time we will know the truth. How sad it would be to demonize whole populations of people based on nothing more than Neocon instigated hysteria? Deflection and misdirection is their stock in trade – the absence of WMDs in Iraq should have taught us that!

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 21 Thumb down 7

  • craig

    I believe Rep. Paul got this one wrong. It is quite obvious at this point that the Muslim community is either in support or in denial of the horrible things of 9/11. It is long overdue for Muslims EVERYWHERE to condemn the tragedy of 9/11 and all of the terror threatened and executed by the radicals in the Muslim community. Harboring and fostering criminals is a crime. In order for Muslims to be taken seriously they must present a united and vocal front against these radicals.

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 7 Thumb down 24

    • The Muslim are not in denial nor in support of the catastrophic event of 9/11 or any other event that took place and killed innocent people.
      I have never heard any Muslim in the media and which I interact with said otherwise.

      After the 9/11 I remember very vividly that CNN aired a video showing Arabs dancing in the street of Palatine. I was outraged just as you are outrage but latter we found that the video was recorded prior to 9/11 Palestinian celebrating their independence day.

      The only people who danced front of burning twin tower were Israelis citizen.
      Here is the videos of both Palestinian cerebrating Independence day prior to 9/11 and dancing Israelis on top of a van front of the twin tower in NYC.

      Don’t get to hyped-up by the Media. Boycott them as much as you can and do your own search and research and get smart.

      RON PAUL for 2012

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 5

  • Louis Stouch

    Mr. Paul – are you or are you not aware of the fact that islam builds mosques at the scene of their greatest triumphs and victories?

    There is a war going on in Europe right now, that you seemingly know nothing about. I strongly suggest that you read a new book titled “Islams Power, Europes New Reality”.

    You might learn something, Mr. Chamberlain.

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 7 Thumb down 28

    • radii

      keep drinking the israel-first-traitor-neocon Kool-Aid you useful fool

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 4

  • All those who voted earlier this month to block health care for 9/11 first responders – which includes most of the Republicans in Congress – should just STFU about “hallowed ground”.

    You want to honor our dead? Take care of the survivors. Otherwise you’re just vultures tearing at America’s flesh.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 27 Thumb down 6

  • LW

    Dr. Paul,

    That you for having the courage to stand up for the rights of Americans on this issue.

    Thank you for giving sane Americans a voice.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 36 Thumb down 7

  • Nate Smith

    Never been here before Paul put his foot in his mouth on this one.Now I see how he does it.If the comment is offensive to Prince Paul he covers it up as low readership ,how quaint .cherry picker!

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 6 Thumb down 28

  • Common Sense

    I agree with RP about 80% of the time, but he is wrong about this. The mosque at Ground Zero is a slap in the face to America, especially those who have loved ones who died there. Basically a Victory Monument. Check out the history of the imam connected with this, and his past utterances.

    Shame on you, RP

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 10 Thumb down 29

    • radii

      er, muslims and jews died too in the attack … andBush and Co. knew it was coming – specifically planes into buildings – and did nothing, didn’t even have on anti-terror meeting which Cheney headed but Cheney did have 5 secret meetings with Enron and other energy companies to game the energy markets

      you are being manipulated and should be ashamed at how gullible you are

      Like or Dislike: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 4

  • Nate Smith

    This is why Ron Paul is unpromotable .He does not get it . Its a 911 Victory Cordoba Spain 784 Mosque to rub our noses in the death of 3,000 mostly Americans .He just cost his son the only chance for his election .Fool!

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 6 Thumb down 24

  • william ridenour

    Mark Trance wrote:
    “Whanker, zealot fanatic hater freaks. Go crawl back under your medieval stone. you mistake the ongoing argument to maintain the constitutional foundation of seperation of church and state as an attack on christianity. Get a grip on reality. You have been mind raped and it has made you a rabid, frothing, reactionary animal. More willing to snap and bite thanto consider and reason. Unfortunately you are not alone..”

    Personally, I think “Trance” is the perfect name for you, Mark, for you are apparently in that state of unreality characteristic of a true ideologue. You indignantly accuse us of bigotry who have done nothing more than point out the history of Islam, it’s cruel and draconian legal system (Sharia), its consistent hegemonic and imperialist behavior, its past and present ruthless suppression of competing ideologies and religions wherever it gains the upper hand: ALL of which is empirically and historically verifiable using completely unbiased sources– for pointing out those facts we get the brilliant counter argument that we are “zealot, hater freaks and rabid, frothing, reactionary animals.” You say we’re “more willing to snap and bite than consider reason.”
    Even though it never occurred to me to begin a post with, “Wanker, zealot, fanatic hater freaks!”…
    But I guess that’s not “snapping.”
    Your post is beneath contempt, not to mention, just plain juvenile. But I’m going to set all that aside and excuse it as the foolishness of youth—or, if you’re old, just someone who was unable to get over the 60s.
    So, I’m going to try to make a respectful reply.

    So, Mark, just for the record I’d be happy to consider reason, IF I ONLY GOT SOME AS A RESPONSE! But you’ll forgive me if I’m not impressed by ad hominem attacks.
    For the record, (you can search my posts on this), I never brought up Christianity except in defense of the faith when those apparently ignorant of history tried to claim that Christianity and Islam share an equivalent history of violence. Balderdash!
    For the record, I’m not the least interested in comparing Christianity and Islam, though I’m a Catholic Christian–a convert since 1982.
    For the record I’m not interesting in the Constitutional issues that seem to me utterly beside the point in this whole kettle of Red Herrings.
    I’m actually not interested in making any claims or assertions.
    I am interested in us assessing our situation realistically and doing what must to be done to protect and preserve a society of Liberty.
    So, I’m posing a question that has been heavily on my mind for some time now. I’ll pose it to you and anyone else who cares to read this, and in restating it, hopefully it will be clearer and will garner something more in response than a thumb one way or another.

    Can a Liberty based society hope to continue to exist when groups of people within that society who hold philosophies and embrace ideologies that hate Liberty and despise individual freedom are allowed to do all they can, with no checks or restraints whatsoever, to use the systems and institutions of liberty to destroy liberty and gain power?

    Put another way, I ask, is there anything in the Libertarian philosophy that can be used to protect and preserve Liberty from enemies from within? Or does the Libertarian have to look to principles outside of itself to preserve its own existence and protect those who live freely within its philosophic and ideological parameters?

    You speak of reason, Mark. Okay, get started formulating a cogent answer to these questions, smart guy and see what you can do with reason to tame this “rabid, frothing, reactionary animal.”
    For at this point, I fear American Liberty is in grave danger and those who embrace a strict and slavish libertarian ideology have no means whatsoever of effectively dealing with those here in America who despise everything lovers of liberty stand for and who are determined to destroy us by any and every means.
    See if you can assuage my fears and concerns, smart guy.

    Personally, I’m not sure a strict Libertarian philosophy or ideology has the means to preserve or protect itself, but can be easily gamed and destroyed. Every “ism” has a defect or weakness, perhaps the greatest weakness of Libertarianism is that it has no ideological means of defense, for it naively assumes everyone will appreciate and desire Liberty.

    Hotly debated. What do you think? Thumb up 5 Thumb down 20

  • Neil

    I applaud Congressman Paul for upholding the principles of our Constitution in the face of a mob uprising that seeks to betray it. Thank you, sir, for speaking out so eloquently on this shameful display of Americans at their worst.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 45 Thumb down 10

  • jim

    Well spoken, Mr Paul.

    I have always wondered why we did not break diplomatic relations with Saudi-Arabia the day after 9/11. Or at least put them on notice.
    That would’ve made a lot more sense than the collective blame some 1.6 billion muslims worldwide are now suffering.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 38 Thumb down 7

  • Phranqlin

    I disagree with Rep. Paul on many issues, but fully support him on this one. Freedom of religion is one of the bedrock values that the United States was built upon. Americans may practice any religion or none, and our country and our society are the stronger for it.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 52 Thumb down 12

    • fred the protectionist

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

      Poorly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 7 Thumb down 50

      • Samih

        You know whats funny Fred? I see you on here all the time critizing and putting down Dr. Paul’s ideas and positions. Since you seem to be so critical of him…………lets hear what you would do instead of Dr. Paul!

        Like or Dislike: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 2

  • Martha Steinbach

    This is the email I just sent to Ron Paul because his statement was sleazy politics as usual, blatently false and misleading to ‘his followers’:

    I applaud your statement about the mosque debate in NYC but your facts are erronous (a.k.a. political?). Speaker Pelosi was not questioning who was funding the building of the mosque, she was questioning who was funding the protests against it. You said” The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.” She said: “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called for an investigation of those who are protesting the building of the Ground Zero Mosque on Tuesday. She told San Francisco’s KCBS radio:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called for an investigation of those who are protesting the building of the Ground Zero Mosque on Tuesday. She told San Francisco’s KCBS radio

    “There is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some. And I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded,” she said. “How is this being ginned up that here we are talking about Treasure Island, something we’ve been working on for decades, something of great interest to our community as we go forward to an election about the future of our country and two of the first three questions are about a zoning issue in New York City.”

    Calls to investigate the funding for those proposing the $100 million “Cordoba House” have fallen on deaf ears, though, as New York’s Mayor Mike Bloomberg has described such an investigation as “un-American.”

    Ms. Pelosi called the Ground Zero mosque an “urban development decision” for New Yorkers to work through.”

    If you are truly a patriot wanting to defend truth and honesty you will correct your statement rather than using typical smear tactics in a politcal campaign.

    Highly rated. What do you think? Thumb up 43 Thumb down 32