Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque!




Congressman Ron Paul today released the following statement on the controversy concerning the construction of an Islamic Center and Mosque in New York City:

Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?

It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”

The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.

Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”

Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?

In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.

The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.

Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?

If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.

The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.

Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.

The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars.

The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.

This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.

Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.



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  1. Yours truly from Illinois

    You are the only canidate that will fix this mess were in. I pray and hope you become our leader. A man of men. The truth is the truth no matter what mainstream is putting out there America will see your courage integrity and love for this country. WE NEED YOU MR.PAUL YOUR AMERICAS ONLY HOPE but please when in office no flip flopping like we see from you know who!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND RON PAUL FOR 2012. You know telling the truth today requires real courage (which is sad when you think about it) but lies and spin take us nowhere. I listened to you twice and I knew you were honest and serious about fixing America. GOD BLESS YOU!!!!! RON PAUL 2012. Who was saying that the lobbyists that run this country should not belong in government and does nothing about it???? GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE!!!! SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!

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  2. Grow up America. 9/11 was most likely an inside job. I mean think about it. Really think about it.

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    • fred the protectionist

      Yeah think about it. reaaaally think about it.

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    • I think it's more likely that both the perpetrators of the 9.11 attacks and the leaders of the US Government at the time are both puppets of the same master.

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      • fred the protectionist

        Jeeeeewwwss. They control everything.

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        • I think it's the oil. And who wants oil? people who sell oil. Now think again. Neo-conservatives (made up of oil men), military industrial complex contracts - whose companies happen to also own the networks. This was a conspiracy of the wealthy to even more wealthy and take some natural resources from those who would not let us have it. It's very plain to see it you grow up. Bullies kill for profit. These are multi-national companies. They respect no borders and have no commitment to nationalism. They are corporations who sole existence is profit and nothing will stop them especially not mere lives of mortals which are expendable and replaceable.

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  3. The message about demagoguery is spot-on; this entire "issue" is being used as a distraction at a time when this country's involved in two full-size overseas wars (in addition to countless other deployments, and despite the media parroting the line that our "combat troops" are out of iraq, the disingenuous pricks), has a massively failing infrastructure (to take NYC, the fire on the Long Island Rail Road, one of the most used commuter rails in the country, was caused because it still uses equipment from 1913), and has a citizenry which seems content to let it all burn while we stroke our dicks.

    Mosque near ground zero: the political equivalent to the Jersey Shore. Kudos to Ron Paul for speaking up about it - the time we spend explicitly talking about political issues should be spent on the important debates, not on concocted issues meant to distract us in those precious few moments we lift our heads away from the idiot box and the super sized mcdonald's value meal.

    More importantly though, doesn't anyone realize how enormous two blocks is? In my fairly large city, if I walk two blocks north I feel perfectly safe, if I walk two blocks south I watch my back everywhere I go. In a city like New York, probably the densest city in the world, you could probably live an entire life in those two blocks.

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  4. LiberalInTheHeartland

    To: HeartlandLiberal

    You expressed exactily what I wanted to say. Thank you. Most evidence to the contrary, you are not alone in the Heartland!

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  5. My only regret is Ron Paul should have spoken sooner and like Joe Scarborough (MSNBC's Morning Joe) who spoke very eloquent about this issue Monday morning; they're both right. Daisy Khan was on This Week with Christiane Amanpour talking about this is no longer Islamophobia; but hate and for Christ's sake this is America and if not us; whom should adhere and esteem to our Constitution, Article 6? Name me one other country that accepts all faiths; Saudia Arabia and their stance with the Jewish people? What's happening around the country...this isn't us!

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  6. America is tired of Zionist propaganda .Mr. Paul,you should form a new party with Mr. Kucinich

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    • If we only allow freedom for those with the support of popular opinion then this country is not worth defending, and it is certainly not the "Land of the Free"!

      Forget about Muslim majority, we already have a 2/3rds majority of cowards. Home of the brave? Where are these brave people exactly? Overseas saving Muslims from their oppressive governments? Oh, ok. That makes sense. Then we what... ship em all back where they came from?

      People died for a free America and yet Amercians, not Muslims, are ready to restrict freedom because they are scared. Scared of homosexuals, scared of Muslims, scared of change, scared of anybody different. "Home of the Irrational" seems a better fit.

      We took this country from the American Indians, locked up the Japanese Americans, hung the African Americans, oppressed the women, and now we are worried about Muslims Americans??!!

      It would seem 2/3 of this country is made up of complete idiots who are incapable of learning from the past. Quite frankly, I think they are the group to worry about the most.

      Thankfully there is a Constitution to keep the idiocy in check.

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  8. I am one of the few liberal Democrats in Lafayette La. but I agree 100% with Ron Paul on the mosque issue. He does us all a service to speak out so courageously for the truth when both parties are pandering for votes.

    I hope Dr. Paul is on the ballard in 2012 because if the Afganistan war is still on I will consider voting for him.

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  11. As always Dr.Paul is right!! I am correcting my opinion regarding the 'Mosque' as I realize how shortsighted my former view really was!! We must be alert to political demagoguery whether from the right or left. I am humbled to say the least!!!

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  12. Great article. Just saw Mr. Paul on CNN and loved hearing him connect the dots of this issue, foreign policy, and war.

    I'm left of center, but I'd like to have another few hundred Ron Pauls in Congress asking the real questions. Good job.

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  13. PLEASE obliterate all other "conservative" candidates and give me a reason to vote Republican in 2012. I, and most of my friends believe you are the guy for the job!

    Your stance on the Constitution is amazing, because it is simply accurate. Rights are pitted against opinion polls for a reason, and thankfully you have a powerful voice who can relay that message to many of your followers.

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  14. I don't always agree with Ron Paul, but boy is he right this time! Let me add some more truth:

    -Before and since 9/11, there has been an active mosque only four blocks from Ground Zero, yet no one ever expressed any opposition to it. As well, the congregation of the imam behind the project outgrew its storefront mosque near Canal Street some time ago, and has been using a portion of the Park Place building ever since. Yet no one expressed any opposition to that either.

    -Only a fraction of the project will be prayer or worship space; the vast majority of the 13-story building will be taken up by an auditorium, a gymnasium, a pool, offices, exhibition spaces, and the like. The Board of Directors will be comprised of Muslims, Christians and Jews. And programming will include multi-cultural and multi-religious courses and exhibitions. It will essentially be the Islamic equivalent of the Jewish Community Center or 92nd Street Y, except that a small portion of the space will be set aside for prayer.

    -There will be no domes, minarets, or other obvious Islamic architectural elements. The building will look like a fairly plain office building. Thus, most people visiting the official memorial and new buildings will not even know it is there.

    -The broad-brush claim that Muslims build mosques to mark triumphs is not historically accurate. Although it is true that in some cases conquering Muslims did build mosques, this should not be surprising. In fact, the Old Testament is replete with cases where the Israelites built temples shortly after they conquered an area. And the Christians did similarly during the Crusades. In all cases, this was far more a practical matter than any sense of triumphalism. With specific respect to the name of the project developer, the Cordoba mosque was actually a nearly-completed church that was simply converted into a mosque: it was not "built" by the conquering Muslims.

    -Even if we accept that Ground Zero is somehow "sacred ground," the proposed project is not on Ground Zero, so it is not "desecrating" it. In fact, the new complex actually being built AT Ground Zero is expected to have a commercial element likely to include such things as McDonald's, Starbucks, Duane Reade, and other stores. I would suggest that selling Big Macs and chai lattes on "sacred ground" is a far greater desecration than a nearly invisible Islamic center two blocks away.

    -Most of those opposed to the project consider themselves patriots, and ostensibly support the Constitution - and the troops who fought and died (and continue to do so) to defend and protect that Constitution and the freedoms it provides. Yet many of these same people are all too willing to ignore the Constitution - in this case its provision supporting "the free exercise" of religion - when it is inconvenient. Some counter by saying that although Muslims may have a right to build the project, they should not do so out of "respect" for those who died. One pundit responded to this by saying, "In other words, freedom of religion...should be exercised only if first ratified by a 'popularity contest.'"

    -Many Muslims died on 9/11, including in the planes (other than the hijackers), in the twin towers, at the Pentagon, and at Shanksville. And many Muslim first responders (police officers, firefighters, etc.) responded to the attacks - some losing their lives when the twin towers collapsed. And the vast majority of the world's one billion Muslims practice their faith privately and quietly: they do not engage in or support violence, and they repudiate the acts of those extremists who participated in the attacks.

    In these regards, those opposed to the project are defining an entire religion by the acts of a few. And that is about as un-American as anything I can think of.

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  15. Dr Paul: As I conservative I salute you for standing up for what is right.
    This country needs more people like you.

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    • fred the protectionist

      You're not a Conservative, and Libertarians are Liberals.

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      • neoconsarefinished

        fred that is insane.
        Libertarians are not Liberals. Liberals are more rational.
        Use your brain man.

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        • .... "libertarian" and "liberal" have very similar etymology and prior to modern liberals calling themselves liberals, "liberal" referred to people who would now be called "libertarians" and people who where then referred to as "libertarians" would now be called "anarchist".

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        • fred the protectionist

          Liberal means: Change, with a touch of leftism, radical.

          Conservative means: Resistant to Change.

          Libertarians are as radical and different as you get. Legalize drugs, prostitution, etc? Abolish American currency, go on Gold Standard? Gee wiz, that's allot of change there.

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        • fred the protectionist

          "…. “libertarian” and “liberal” have very similar etymology and prior to modern liberals calling themselves liberals, “liberal” referred to people who would now be called “libertarians” and people who where then referred to as “libertarians” would now be called “anarchist”."

          Liberty is a weasel word when used by Libertarians.

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      • Do you realize whatever you call yourself, you're tone is very indicative of who you are??? But keep talking to yourself. It's amusing. It always has been.

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  16. Dr. Paul,

    I disappointed that you have expounded in favor of the so called Ground Zero Mosque, more accurately described as the Cordoba House Islamic Cultural Center, without having a clear understanding of the historical significance behind the plan to build the mosque or the true tenets of the Islam. The Cordoba mosque in Spain was built to signify Islam having conquered Spain. This mosque will serve to signify Islam's intention to take over the U.S. and place us under Sharia Law. As improbable as that may sound now, the plan to do so has been expressed repeatedly by Islamic organizations such as CAIR. Just take a look a London now, where Sharia Law is allowed to apply to the Muslim community. The same thing in Canada. There are apologist in the U.S. who seem to think honor killings are OK because it's a cultural matter.

    Freedom of religion is one thing, but a religion whose primary tenet is to convert the whole world to Islam by persuasion when possible, and by force if not, hardly deserves to be placed on the same footing as all other major religions of the world. No other modern day religion chooses to gain converts by force, but instead they all choose reason and free choice. No other religion sanctions honor killings; or promotes the killing of innocents to further its goals. No other religion sanctions lies in order to hide its true objectives.

    Should they be allowed to build the mosque close to Ground Zero? Absolutely not! The symbolism strongly argues against it.

    In a brief response to “Albie's” comments, our Constitution is becoming less and less recognizable every day. Incrementalism is how it gets changed. We see it every day. Most of what the federal government does today is based upon the concept of a living constitution that is interpreted to meet political goals. Added to that, some of our Supreme Court Justices refer to international law as having some application here in the U.S. Some legislators are promoting the UN laws regarding the rights of minors. How indeed!

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    • Again we see the same talking points, Cordoba, Spain, conquest, Sharia Law, US take over. This is fear-mongering. The Muslim population is the US is less than 1%. So the 99% of us who aren't just sit here and take it? You are aware that there are Mosques all over the US, right? Is Park51, with its praying room, the 100th and that is the magic # of Mosques that the US needs to be subjugated to Sharia Law? Does it increase the # of people in the US, Muslim or otherwise? Cordoba, Spain was under Islamic rule in the 10th Century! It was also conquered by the Romans earlier than that! I guess we should be on the lookout for any Roman descendants if they use Cordoba in the name.

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  17. Now I remember where I seen ron:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3z5HpEvJ71uihZzpGTP4dw

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  18. Is it any wonder only the nut jobs listen to Ron Paul? Is it any wonder Libertarians can't be taken seriously? This isn't even the most ridiculous stance Ron Paul has taken. Is it? Vote me down nut jobs

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  19. Mr. Paul, I am a liberal Democrat and a proud Obama supporter who rarely agrees with your political views because I don't think you understand the demands of the 21st century vis-a-vis the need for government. But in this essay you have hit nearly every nail squarely on the head. Congratulations and thank you for words that will live in the proud history of our democratic traditions.

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  20. Thank you sir for your honor and integrity to staying with truth and honesty vs. what is politically expedient.

    We are in two long wars with the worst economic downturn in two generations, and an equally pathetic response to it and the bigots are turning the use of a dis-used Burlington Coat Factory into the primary issue. There is also a strip club two blocks up from WTC. But to the bigots, thats not an insult to the memories but a community center open to all New Yorkers (like the YMCA) becomes a healing factor.

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