98 responses to “End Social Security, Medicare, and the Welfare-Warfare State!”

  1. k9kmc

    GOP WANT TO TAKE AMERICA BACK TO THE CAVE !!!!

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  2. Glossika

    NONE OF YOU ARE GETTING ANY SOCIAL SECURITY WHEN YOU RETIRE. BUT IT’S CUT FROM EVERY PAYCHECK. WHADDAYA GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THE MONEY’S GONE! YOU NEED YOUR OWN SAVINGS. AND THE USD IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES, SO DON’T SAVE IN USD…

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  3. marieshinesweet

    Oh by the way… lets just picture the day social security is out… lol … civil war this is my prediction … or better find bunkers to hide your precious jewels and yourself .. that means millions of people on the street starving … nonesense all is nonesense ..

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  4. marieshinesweet

    Social security and medicare??!!! Story goes back again and again of course … poors pay for the shit left by the superrrichhh.. those who of course pays genius lawyers to find great fiscal shelters and false corps to hide what it is seen from all right at our faces. Sorry to be pessimist but human kind have long lost the way to get back home .. and this is all over the world.. ps : do you think sincerly that one day the system will be transparent .. dream within a dream… good luck to us all.

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  5. Greg

    It’s important that we replace Social Security and Medicare with personal accounts or else those Americans that unfortunately do not start saving for retirement until they are much too old will end up in poverty and voting for more government welfare checks.

    BUT if we replace Social Security and Medicare with around a 5%/year personal retirement account, almost no one will end up poor enough in retirement to need any government benefits at all!

    The average annual Social Security benefit right now is only $14,000 and you and your employer have to pay a combined 14.9% a year in payroll taxes. With a mere 5%/year account, employer payroll taxes will be eliminated (reducing employment costs by 7.45%, allowing companies to hire millions more workers) and you will save 2.45% a year. Not only that, but you’ll be left with around $21,000 a year in retirement instead of $14,000! Get 50% higher benefits at 1/3rd the cost. It’s 6 times more efficient than the current system.

    For example, if you earn $25k a year at 22 and get a 2% raise every year until you retire at 67 with an income of $61k ($46k lifetime average income), and you put 5% a year into a savings account that earned 5% a year you’ll be left with $293,000 in savings, which will allow you to buy an annuity for about $23,000 a year for the rest of your life.

    It’s a no-brainer.

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  6. Greg

    The point of Social Security and Medicare is to ensure that senior citizens don’t go without basic necessities or health care. I and almost everyone else agree with that goal. The problem is – our current system isn’t built to do that! The current entitlement system is largely redistribution of wealth to middle class and wealthy people who have plenty of resources to take care of themselves.

    This should be a very gradual change because people have planned their retirement based on the current system, but Social Security and Medicare should be available for all senior citizens that are in need and not available to senior citizens that have plenty of wealth. If you own a $400,000 house free and clear, you don’t need government checks every month – you have a $400,000 asset. If you have a $30,000/year annuity you don’t need government checks every month – you have plenty of money.

    If you rent and only have a few thousand dollars in the bank or are in debt, absolutely our society can afford to help you out financially. And there should be no requirement that senior citizens look for work because many cannot. It’s basically just “welfare for senior citizens”, but this system would cost maybe 10-20% of what the current entitlement behemoth costs us.

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  7. David

    Some replies here baffle me. They think by cutting this stuff means people will starve. The point of cutting is to free up money so this money can allow people to take care of themseves. Most legitimate people would much rather take care of themselves than have Governement do it for them. It’s just today’s society and spending does not allow for them to. The only way to allow them to is to cut spending and let the money go back into the free market. I’m not saying completely get rid of it, and I don’t see that Ron Paul is either, or not at least right away. We all know the fact that many people have poored hundreds of thousands of dollars a piece into the system. To get rid of it would be stealing there money. There must be a transitition process to allow for this. THis is one of the problems with entitilement programs to begin with. They end up unsustainable but too many lives are affected by it. It would have been better if it never existed, but since it did, it has be taken down very carefully.

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  8. NaturalGroundation

    YES! To voluntary Social Security!!!! Let me take my retirement ELSEWHERE!!!!

    RON PAUL 2012 FOR THE ELIMINATION OF ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL INCOME TAXES AND THE ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL RESERVE

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  9. macpduff

    Wow. I can’t disagree more.
    I thought I liked Ron Paul.
    No to replacing Fed SS with State funded Welfare. Same for Medicare. The States have even less money than the Feds. The SS fund is well funded. This is just a ruse to raid the fund.
    Look, why don’t we just go out and shoot our Disabled and Seniors. Wall St stole their retirement. How much $ have we squandered on wars since 2001? And whose fault is it that our jobs were sent overseas?

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  10. Boomer1949

    They are all lying to you. It’s not SS that is going broke, it’s the part of our SS tax (OSDI) that covers Disability that will be broke in 2018. Watch my latest vid, and read the SS Trustee Report 2010.

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  11. MoreFunky420

    I appreciate all the answers to my question on this post. While we should ALL be responsible for ourselves we do indeed need a plan for the elderly when they can’t work anymore as well as the disabled physically and mentally. Otherwise we will truly be like a socialist country letting the “burdens” on society wither away and die before their time. Im lucky that I am capable of working and saving money. As long as there IS work. But sometimes thats not always the case. Thanks for the input guys.

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  12. GodlessInfinity

    Yes, let’s end welfare, senior citizens don’t need to eat anyway!

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  13. Steve Barakat

    Ya. Start with the corporate welfare state.

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  14. Justicar333

    Social Security/Medicare are vaulable, if badly broken, parts of our modern society. While I agree with Dr. Paul on most things, including this. I think it needs repair, rather than removal. A repair that has to go farther than the two systems themselves. While state ran, these two programs function much like private versions which do much the same things. Attacking them is as silly as attacking those who receive benefits from their automobile insurance after being in a wreck.

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  15. Brian Handey

    How is it “screwing over the weak and defenseless?” If anything, they’re screwing everyone else over. Time to take personal responsibility. You can’t use government coercion to force people into paying for someone else’s mistakes.

    This isn’t a republican/democratic issue. This is a freedom issue. And you oughta mostly blame democrats. They’re responsible for most of the mess.

    Since 1945, Democrats have had control of the House 26 out of the last 33 election cycles and control of the Senate 23 out of the last 33 election cycles. They have rejected a resolution in March of 2010 to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan in 30 days from passage or NLT 31 December 2010, whichever is safer. They also rejected a resolution in July 2010 to remove all troops and stop all military operations in Pakistan.

    So next time you go blaming Republicans for anything, you might want to educate yourself. You’re the problem, not freedom-loving Americans. Don’t bring the rest of us down with your radical agendas.

    P.S. – if those fictional “old widows” you talk about had responsible husbands who bought life insurance, or – and here’s a novel idea – they had saved and invested for the future, then they wouldn’t be out on the street. Blame lies with the individual. Get used to it, because that’s life. It’s also funny how historically, Republican supporters donate more to charity than Democrats. In fact, I heard about a grave being dug up in New York state somewhere. I bet it was a Democrat looking for taxes.

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  16. john5246

    what a joke our political system is…

    The republican’s won’t go after medicare part D but they seem to have no problem going after anything that is “obama”

    These things are not going to be cut, they will be pushed further down the road until the whole system collapses.

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  17. chorizo1337

    Seriously why does noone talk about wellfare in the military? They pay you more per month for how many kids you have. Also the government subsidizes you to get married. Prostitution anyone?

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  18. Disaboo

    While I appreciate the emotion that is going through these discussions – it hardly comprises the pain in this country. Some people have, and will always, take advantage of government programs. There are not the mainstream. The people who are taking advantage of the “disabled” are the government/medical/welfare/”nonprofit/scammer cartel. Get the fraud and the outrageous profit out of the system!

    I can’t see any reason to keep up the wars, except to employ our children – which is no excuse.

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  19. mjwander1

    ron paul for the new house speaker

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  20. drifterted

    Social Security is nothing more than a tax now. I want to opt out, and they can keep al they have stolen from me so far.

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  21. kiltyoposse

    STEAL IT ALL ron paul YOU NEO-CON !

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  22. C_Miller

    Why aren’t the different agencies stepping up with voluntary reductions? The only one I know of so far is Gates and there was all kinds of food fighting over that. Seems to me that the smart bureaucrats will come forward with their own cuts before someone has to make the decision for them. At least then they would have some control…

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    1. C_Miller

      In fact, Gates proposed $100 Billion in reductions (if memory serves). If each agency did the same thing, they would knock out the easy stuff right there. I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of them have already done the same thing internally. In other words, they already know what they are willing to part with.

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      1. C_Miller

        The agencies already know they are facing a showdown with Tea Party, seems to me that they would put together a list of things they can part with and hand it over. At least then Congress could have a relatively easy win for once.

        Maybe the Congress can just call for it.

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  23. Stepper11

    These three sacred cow social spending plans will not be touched until there is litterally no way to make the payments. Borrowing, printing, and other forms of shell games will ultimately come to an end. But not until we hit the terminal wall. Ron is right, but I think he underestimates the ability of people to delude themselves so long as they perceive a short term benefit to themselves.

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  24. Dfens

    I’d like to see Ron Paul hook up his call for an end to these unconstitutional programs (medicare and social security) and wars (no declaration by congress) with his call for repealing the 16th amendment (income tax) and the unconstitutional Internal Revenue Service. The 16th amendment authorized taxation “without apportionment”, which is the kind of legaleze crap they pulled to dupe US citizens into allowing the federal government an “income tax”, but it certainly does not authorize the IRS. By the 10th amendment the IRS is, therefore, wholly unconstitutional.

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  25. rebelq1

    Social Security is the largest Ponzi scheme ever!

    watch?v=oh-NqdmEDq4

    watch?v=vuaG-A6ezMQ

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  26. SuspectD3vice

    I like when the text is also in the description, can you keep doing that?

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  27. FMChristain

    RON PAUL 2012

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  28. william4art

    Coincidence? The only two people I would ever have voted for both have the initials R.P Ron Paul and Ross Perot..lol

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  29. katey1dog

    Dr. Paul is not demanding the end of Social Security and Medicare. He’s only pressing for a voluntary and individual choice for those wealthy men and women to opt out of these social welfare programs.

    That’s good. As he states, it’s designed to care for those people that can not care for themselves.

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  30. ElectroPaganAnon

    Ron, keep the logic coming…

    We love you!

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  31. MoreFunky420

    Please guys someone respond to this. I am a supporter of the Tea Party Movement, Im a member, and I support Ron Paul. But Im having trouble understanding the whole Social Security thing. I admit I know very little and need further education on the subject. I hear alot about doing away with SS but then I think about my mother and father who are both not getting younger, and both are nearly disabled. Im sure this is the case with many retired Americans. There has to be some plan for the elderly.

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  32. ExhibitMan

    RON PAUL PLEASE RUN IN 2012!!!!

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  33. RemiG2006

    Reform Social Security NOW!

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  34. shroomingnewman

    ron paul pwns

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  35. SkyBlueAugust

    RON PAUL PLEASE……The Constitution does not authorizeSHEMTRAILS or NAKED BODY SCANNERS for travelers. Quite the opposite. “pursuit of happiness” “right to privacy” PLEASE UPHOLD THESE!
    REVEAL WHAT IS IN CHEMTRAILS and the AGENDA behind naked body scanners.

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