128 responses to “Ron Paul: Global Fiat Currency will be Derailed by Free Markets and Nationalism”

  1. Digali

    Well said. As economist and historian Thomas woods states pretty elegantly and humorously, “Anybody the establishment hates THAT much, I’m at least gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.” Not speaking of Ron Paul of course, because Thomas Woods knows there is no doubt and can be no doubt of his integrity. But generally speaking, he’s right. Anything CSNBC or CNN won’t touch or hate, is probably where you should look for truth.

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  2. John Kesselstatt

    Mr.Paul: Finally we hear a voice of wisdom,intelligence and reality. Good luck to you in 2011.
    You may have to address another matter in order to make all this happen: Get Congress to investigate the 911 crime against the American people, not by a silly committy but by an independent and fully financed judge. You mention the Triangular Com which is now completely infiltrated by the neocons who,alas,are nearly all Russian/Americans with dual passports. All sections of gov. are infiltrated, including the FAA. You already know that the foreign policy is made in Telaviv with the help pf AIPAC. The Fed is a creation of Russian/Americans and the most influential parts of Wall Street are in their hands. You can make this evil bubble blow up if you can gather people around you who have the courage to make that revolution happen. It is the only way to save the America we were proud of.

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    1. jack

      The Austrians/Paulians tell you, that they want a return to Constitutional money; and to sound money.

      No bigger lie can be told!

      Why not? Check out their forums. Gold bugs everywhere; and what they want is NOT for gold to return to its Constitutionally defined value! They want to make out like the Federal Reserve! Speaking about hypocrits!

      Worse then is the lie that they want to “end the Fed.”
      Why? As I have described, the fatal fault of the imposed monetary system is interest; and all further faults merely result from further failure to solve inflation and deflation. The Austrians, and Mr. Paul in particular, not only advocate interest; they advocate ELEVATED RATES OF INTEREST.

      Effectively, what they want is to remove the embossed letters which now say “Federal Reserve Bank,” and replace them with “Ron Paul’s ‘COMPETING’ Bank(s)” — a principle which he refuses to debate, further define, or justify. Of course, any ostensible “competition” would ostensibly, on the contrary, drive interest rates down. But Mr. Paul tells us that we wouldn’t have borrowed ourselves into this debt mess if higher rates of interest had discouraged excessive/reckless borrowing.

      Mr. Paul has never done the math: he tells you that all of you are going to benefit somehow therefore — oh and we so willingly believe this preposterous notion, don’t we? — he tells us we will benefit paying perhaps 17% interest on our homes than 5%. Sounds really like a good idea, doesn’t it? Especially since the rate of interest is the rate of multiplication of artificial indebtedness — higher rates of which instead necessitate greater rates of borrowing to maintain a vital circulation.

      Unfortunately, most people who exalt Austrian “economics” hardly know the first thing about it. They reject math — most of which is little more than counting — as if you could understand otherwise; and they could have possibly determined solution otherwise. In no legitimate discipline or walk of life does such reckless abandonment of principle hold.

      But Mr. Hayek, God of the Austrians tells us why they advocate interest and the current banking model — which are our very problem. See Hayek’s article at Mises org: “A Free Market Monetary System,” I think it’s called. Anyway, he thus justifies interest, that it makes banking “an extremely profitable business.”

      That’s right. There IS no justification, just an outright confession of the motive.

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      1. Citizen

        Hell-NO Jack-O

        There you go again, blowing out your backside and making up hogwart stories.

        NOTICE: to All Austrian / Dr. Paul supporters…
        Jack is a blogosphere shill aligned with
        The People for Marxist Progressive Eugenics (PFMPE)
        The group is a massive movement of at least 5 world wide, maybe 7.
        {{Its really hard to determine the actual number given their numerous blog pseudonyms }}

        Under MPE, Everyone is a Economic Infidel, except for them.
        None of their “math” works, the claimed “perfection” assumes a world contained in a economic vacuum managed by their self proclaimed guru of Marxist Magic, Mr. Mikie Montangne.

        Don’t ask… you don’t want to know.

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  3. ancientwisdom2012

    i recommend the film “The money Masters” as well as “the Secret of Oz”

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  4. stpthreat1

    give ron paul the 21 gun salut!!!

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  5. pretorious700

    Because the mechanism that elects presidents won’t allow it.

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  6. MrSpecialop

    Well if you know it all why don’t you run for president then ;)

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  7. MrSpecialop

    Well if you know it all why don’t you run for president then ;)

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  8. J

    Just a quick reminder that you may want to tune in to tomorrow’s fourth broadcast from TNS Radio (tnsradio.ning.com) at 3 PM Pacific time. The first four programs are intended to be listened to in order, as each provides background material for succeeding discussion. Response has been tremendous from all over the world. I hope you’ve enjoyed as well.

    These are links for downloading and listening to the first 3 shows in preparation for tomorrow’s program. Of course, if you miss a show, you can always catch up from these archive links:

    PROGRAM 001 DOWNLOAD LINK:
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/820088191e550288/

    PROGRAM 002 DOWNLOAD LINK:
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/82582739a239099a/

    PROGRAM 003 DOWNLOAD LINK:
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/82648461b31a1b4d/

    Owing to a software glitch, my system failed to record the third program live — which would have produced a high quality recording. Fortunately, Dave Ardron of Australia successfully recorded last week’s Program 3.
    His may be the only surviving copy. It’s not a perfect recording… but it’s listenable… and it’s all we have. If there’s a call for it, I’ll try to re-record the show. Perhaps someone with processing expertise can clean it up… and, really, I lean that way for now at least, as you can hardly repeat the event as it happened otherwise.

    PS.

    In near term shows, Mike will be taking questions and interviewing other monetary reform leaders. After his first show, Austrian Economics was pronounced dead — forever — in the Ron Paul forums at ronpaul.com. The second and third programs follow suit, disproving all contending propositions. Of course, his original (1968) proposition was a proof of singular solution… but there’s a huge world-wide following now, who finally understand all this, thanks to the TNS broadcasts amongst others.

    If you should like to pose any questions (after listening to each of the first 4 programs to see if what you want to know has already been covered), you may pose your questions at any time over Skype, by contacting Mike at Skype ID: pfmpe2012. All contact is recorded. We can integrate all good questions in future TNS programs.

    Thanks for listening… and warmest regards,

    PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™

    perfecteconomy.com

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  9. NaturalGroundation

    listen to ancient wisdom! hes right!

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  10. thrummer1953

    Publicly audit & then eliminate the Federal Reserve as a private entity. Do it ASAP!

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  11. adrian wallace

    How about competing currencies? Let the Free Market decide which to use. That is what Ron Paul is pushing for. You can’t just end the Fed overnight. He knows that. It will become dismantled through its own worthlessness to the average person.

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  12. swizzlecheeks

    How about competing currencies? Let the Free Market decide which to use. That is what Ron Paul is pushing for. You can’t just end the Fed overnight. He knows that. It will become dismantled through its own worthlessness to the average person.

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  13. bubbyslife2

    Ron Paul or Revolution

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  14. bubbyslife2

    Ron Paul or Revolution

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  15. bubbyslife2

    Ron Paul or Revolution 

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  16. ancientwisdom2012

    Please watch “The Secret of Oz” and “The Money Masters” A gold standard is not a solution and the films explain why. The problem is the FED banks and the system itself. Greenbacks and colonial scripp WERE successful fiat, that were later intentionally attacked by the bankers to destroy any true competition. I like Ron but he needs to get this one point of fact straight. GOLD STANDARD IS NOT A SOLUTION

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    1. Citizen

      I’ve watched it and it makes more sense than the MPE stuff floating around and parading as a perfect solution, which it is not.

      While gold and silver as currency are no cure all panacea, it does offer restraints on central banking as was the case during the Nixon Administration, prompting Nixon to break the 1944 Brenton-Woods agreement in 1971 so that he could inflate the money to pay for the expensive Vet Nam war.

      Ron Paul is an advocate of “Sound Money” which implies restraint on Central Banking counterfeiting operations.

      QE2 is a disaster in the making, something that may force the ultimate collapse of the dollar and a return to bullion back currency

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    2. J

      Bill Stills is a major plagiarist of Mike Montagne´s work, but i´m glad you are using common sense. I´ve explained hunderds of times in these forums that gold cannot be solution. There is only one solution. Mathematically perfected economy is a currency not subject to interest, comprising a debt financing all permissible enterprise, paid by each and every debtor exactly as they consume of the associated production.

      There is no inflation or deflation, as the currency in circulation is always equal to the current value of existent production across however much of the economy is supported by a circulation.

      http://endtheecb.ning.com/profiles/blogs/why-we-need-to-adopt

      What is Mathematically Perfected Economy?

      http://endtheecb.ning.com/profiles/blogs/what-is-mathematically

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    3. Woopa

      The proper action now is NOT to decide what commodity the government will order all citizens to use: the proper action now is to remove the existing order (or, considering how unethical and unlawful the existing order is, to just break it). Legal Tender Laws seem to be the prime culprit, if they mean what my very assumtive knowlege of them makes me assume they mean — I havn’t read them.

      Simply put, I would make every effort to RESIST the government ordering all citizens to accept a specific type of consideration and leave people free to determine the terms of their own contracts.

      This is Ron Paul’s position as well: to “legalize competing currencies”. He does not advocate enforcing a gold standard on people: the government might mint coinage, but that is not the same as forcing the people to use the coins. If people are free to trade, a commodity will only become money if and as long as people value it and continue to use it as money. There can be no tyranny without impositions here: if the government 1. cannot force people to pay taxes with a designated “money” and 2. cannot force people to accept that designated money if they are wary of it or simply do not wish to, then whatever is used as money has no inert tyranny

      I have watched the first half of “The Secret Of OZ”: most of the conclusions, as well as some of the observations, are flawed.

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      1. Citizen

        Whoopa,

        Good reasoned response to the Oz conclusions.

        The Ron Paul solution of Competing Currencies would envision the US Government AND the States minting competing bullion coinage of silver and gold. The denominations could simply be in Weights only thus eliminating the exchange traders currency manipulations.

        The beauty of such a bi-metal bullion currency system is that it would restrain most Central Governments (world wide) from continuously ripping their populations wealth off as they are doing currently.

        A precious metal system is no panacea but its still better that what we currently have with Fractional Reserve Theft and QE2

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  17. NorthStar20121

    The worst nightmare of the Democratic Establishment: Ron Paul.

    The worst nightmare of the Republican Establishment: Ron Paul.

    The hope of the United States: Ron Paul.

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  18. Zachary

    Thank you Jack. I’ve been waiting for an Austrian debate to take on this subject for a while.

    This discussion leads to some interesting questions and observations. On the whole, doesn’t this imply that borrowers must work for privileged money-creation institutions (some call them “banks” ;), either directly or indirectly, in order to make all interest payments? If so, is this not a sophisticated form of serfdom? Doesn’t this put the banks in a unique position to shape society as they can collectively steer the workforce in their desired directions?

    On a societal level, banks create money out of debt, and the rest of society must “work for them” in order to pay them back. Isn´t Ron Paul and his Austrian Economists just offering more of the same serfdom?? What a sweet deal for them.

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    1. Jack

      Indeed Zachary. Glad you are coming to the same conclusions. (just more of the same)

      It´s exactly as their God Hayek is telling us why they advocate interest and the current banking model — (which are our very problem). See Hayek’s article at Mises org: “A Free Market Monetary System,” He thus justifies interest, that it makes banking “an extremely profitable business.”

      There IS no justification, just an outright confession of the motive.

      The implications will be enormous as soon as ¨the real people¨ will realize the ugly truth about Mr. Paul and his Austrian self inflicting terminal theories.

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      1. Zachary

        Jack, the more I study MPE the more it becomes clear to me that it is the only solution for inflation and deflation. Everything I have read so far makes perfect sense. The name might be a bit confusing because a perfect economy does´t exist, but that is not what Mike is pretending here.
        He simply advocates a Mathematically Perfected Currency FREE of interest and issued by the people through a democratic elected government.
        It´s actually pretty simple if you approach it with an open mind.

        If I have questions I come back to you…

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    2. Citizen

      Zachary,

      You questions are well founded and deserve reasoned responses..

      You are correct in saying “privileged money-creation institutions” is an apt description of the US Federal Reserve Bank has been given a MONOPOLY CHARTER to create DEBT money and manipulate the interest rates paid.

      Ron Paul is fighting to dissolve that monopoly charter and disband the Central Quasi Government Fed Reserve banking system, similar to Andrew Jackson did in 1840.

      Ron Paul believes the US Treasury AND State Treasuries must MINT the currency (gold and silver coin) for the mutual use and benefit of the citizens of America…. NOT some private bank, like the FED!

      The FED must END!

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      1. Jack

        What happened overnight Citizen (because of your latest statement here):

        Ron Paul believes the US Treasury AND State Treasuries must MINT the currency (gold and silver coin) for the mutual use and benefit of the citizens of America…. NOT some private bank, like the FED!

        Your starting to promote MPE dude without even realizing it, because that is exactly what MPE intents to do INTEREST FREE and with our creditworthiness, labour and production to back up any loans. I really do not give a flying f who implements it as long as it is done according to MPE standards to avoid any further corruption of our currency and economy.
        We can now further debate Gold and Silver coin, because that will not work.

        Slowly swapping side? Smart move!

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        1. Citizen

          Snake Oil Jack

          God forbid anyone swallow your MPE Snake Oil.

          Ron Paul was in congress in 1985 and he sponsored legislation to force the return to Sound Money as defined by our Constitution. Dr Paul was instrumental in forcing the Mint to resume minting gold and silver coinage back in 1986, a 52 year hiatus after FDR’s gold theft

          I’m guessing that YOU probably were not born yet in 1985?

          WE have never argued that INTEREST can be charged on the currency! It should NOT be charged on CURRENCY.
          DEBT is a totally different matter….Our currency is not debt!

          Ron Paul believes We the People are Constitutionally allowed to hold Gold and Silver without have to be taxed on its Appreciation or Depreciation.
          It is OUR Constitution Legal Tender (not you Dutch).
          However our US Tax code have make removed the use of gold and silver as Legal Tender thus any appreciation (not inflation) is considered Capital Gain and subject to being taxed on the appreciation!

          From what you, TS, David and Michael have said about MPE, You guys are advocating substituting the FED and the IMF with your MPE DEBT system.
          Same FIAT SYSTEM, only a different name and Global Controls.

          So why would WE the People trust your MPE spook anymore than we trust
          Ben Bernanke, the Snake Oil Chairman of the Fed???

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        2. Jack

          ´63 Citizen. The year Kennedy was killed, coincidence or not i´m on a mission. f u

          Now, going back to the discussion i´m going to try to explain you guys via a couple of links why it is NECESSARY to introduce money (our medium of exchange) as debt (and not as social credit) in order to solve inflation/deflation, and why there need to be unlimited tokens to sustain industrie all the further.

          A contradictory idea raised perhaps in misunderstandings of this material, is that debt itself as a monetary basis is to be eradicated.

          A debt under mathematically perfected economy™ however is a far different thing than a debt under usury; and there is a concrete reason that money must come into circulation as a debt.

          The reason that new money must come into circulation as a debt is simply that 1) we need further circulation to sustain the trade and payment for new production; and 2) that the juncture of newly introduced production is the opportunity to introduce that currency in a way which allows for its retraction from circulation in accord with the payment of the resultant obligation.

          Counter productive fantasy of a debt free monetary system -

          http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-counter-productive-fantasy-of-a-debt-free-monetary-system.html

          More answers in next post about; who should issue our currency, and why precious metal monetary standards can only fail.

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        3. Jack

          Further to our discussions please see links about:

          Who should issue our currency,
          and why precious metal monetary standards can only fail.

          http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-question-of-who-should-issue-the-currency.html

          http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-why-precious-metal-monetary-standards-can-only-fail.html

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    3. David

      Hi Zachary;

      Yeah as Jack stated, your drawing the same conclusions as anyone with half and ounce of brains who gives this matter a moments thought must, an economy must exist to serve and promote useful production as opposed to feeding a parasitic infection, in other words Banks, otherwise it simply cannot work and is not sustainable as has already been demonstrated.

      Per the topic of this blog “Global Fiat Currency will be Derailed by Free Markets and Nationalism” If this is to happen it will indeed mean nationalizing our currency and credit systems and managing them for the benefit of such useful production. Citizen claims this is marxism but in fact it is something which has always been associated with the political right, but then again all Citizen can do is lie in defense of his precious banks and has been caught doing so time and time again.

      In response to Citizens response, i’ll simply repost and old post where it has all already been said.

      …………..

      Okay, im seeing a problem here in regards to the end the fed issue which we do need to understand. I agree, we need to end the fed, but we have a little problem here in that there are still people thinking that ending the fed will solve the problems. We need to abolish banking, all banking, any form of banking. Abolish the whole damn concept of private interest on money, completely, totally, and absolutely. Andrew Jackson killed the central bank but he didn’t kill all the banks, by the early 1900′s we had the Federal Reserve and while we didnt have it, all the other private banks could still crash the economy anytime and in any way they wanted too anyway.

      Money enables the trade of tangible products and services between people for each others benefit, interest removes that means of trade from them and establishes power for the one charging the interest at the expense of that trade and the people. If there is to be interest, then let it be on loans from the people to the people where it can fund other public services instead of taxes and go immediately back into circulaton and continue to generate more trade and production. Thats the only form in which it can be tolerated and where it cannot be accumulated to buy power.

      Power exists at the expense of freedom, freedom is established by destroying power. How do you establish power over someone ? By making them poor and dependent on the person estabishing the power. How do you make people poor and dependent on someones power ? By controlling their means of trade and/or charging them interest, thus restricting and diminishing their ability to exchange the useful things they can do for each other. Any entity which takes payment and does not generate some form of tangible product or service toward someones benefit, exists as a parasite, can only exist through establishing power and can only maintain its existence through establishing more power, in other words, Banks, all Banks, Central Banks, big Banks, little Banks, each and every Bank. How do we establish and secure everlasting freedom and rich, abundant and ever increasing prosperity for ourselves ?. Kill all the Banks, Central Banks, big Banks, little Banks, each and every Bank.

      Its about time that everyone got it through their heads that if were going to maintain a free, consistent, reliable, prosperous and growing private enterprise system, that we need our own debt free public currency to fuel it, which is created, owned and controlled only and exclusively by the population that it serves, so that it can be consistently and reliably created and issued in order to generate and maximize real production and prosperity and can remain in circulation to continue to generate real production and prosperity without being bled off incrementally by parasites who contribute nothing to these things. Anything else is sheer idiocy. Just think about the sheer and incredible stupidity of letting our production and prosperity be controlled by money, as opposed to controlling money to create production and prosperity. How incredibly stupid is it of us, to have tolerated a system which can come crashing down any time banks decide to make it do that, shut down our useful production creating poverty for everyone when there has been absolutely no change in our capacity for useful production ?. Why is the American population existing in the worst state of poverty that the country has seen in 70 years and facing the imminent destruction of their lives and freedoms today, when we have the means and resources within our hands right now, today and at this very moment, to create an abundance and a standard of living for ourselves 30 times what it has ever been in the past ?. Because we have banks who create and control the money and charge interest on it so we always have less instead of more, and if they didn’t create and control it, and only charged interest on it, we’d still reach the same end, only a little more slowly. How can we have this abundance and standard of living 30 times what it has ever been in the past, instantly, today, immediately and at any time we choose and then make it 60 and 100 times and more what it has ever been in the past ? Kill all the banks, Central Banks, big Banks, little Banks, each and every Bank. Then create all the money we need for ourselves, control it ourselves and to our own benefit, so that it can actually enable us to produce and trade for the maximum extent of what were capable of producing, always and consistently.

      What is a free economy ? Money serving us.

      What is slavery ? Us serving money = Banking.

      How do we abolish slavery, establish permanent economic freedom and permanently secure our political freedoms as well ? Kill all the Banks, Central Banks, big Banks, little Banks, each and every Bank. Then create and manage our own money ourselves, all of the money, every single penny of it and make it serve us.

      Once again, I will ask everyone who hasn’t done so yet to take 5 minutes, and actually think about and consider carefully, the incredible stupidity of our current economic system, and the incomprehensible stupidity of people in tolerating it thus far. I guess thats what happens when people don’t want to think and just trust and believe and do what they are told, it makes them stupid. At this point though and by the millions every day, they are figuring out that they can’t afford to be stupid anymore, they are starting to think and look for and understand solutions and the power has not yet been established to prevent them from acting on what they figure out. As long as they get it right and kill every single bank, then it will be money serving us instead of controlling us. It will continue to do so for all time to come and we will be its master and it will not be ours. If one single bank is left alive, then it never can and never will. Are we really stupid enough to do this…..AGAIN ? Are we really stupid enough to cast aside all thought, sense, observation, experience, history and reason, in order to trust and believe some economic theorists who say this can work, when they can’t even get inflation right ?. The proof of an intelligent man is to learn from mistakes, the proof of an idiot is to keep repeating them, what are we ?

      I suppose i’ll have to say this again before someone asks “but where would we deposit our paychecks and loan money to buy a house ?”. The United States Treasury, your local branch, in the same building where you do it now probably with many of the same employees you deal with now, only it would be our treasury, yours and mine, and would exist to make us rich instead of to make us poor. Think outside that stupid little box people and imagine how things can be instead of how they have are. There is not one single new thing which has ever been created nor one single benefit brought to mankind without someone doing so.

      Is there anyone here who is still not understanding this ?

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    4. Citizen

      Zachery,

      History of the 1880 shows the debate was between a Gold Standard for the super rich versus a Silver Standard for the common citizen.
      Essentially the government adopted a bi-metal standard to please both.
      The Double Eagle ($20 USD) represented the benchmark coin for almost 70 years and silver of denominated at a 20:1 ratio.

      Silver and gold are generally mined together with the natural ratio being 16:1 in ounces mined and refined.
      The US Treasury chose the 20:1 ration to give gold the upper hand so that the bi-metal system would stay balanced, citizens using both and not hoarding the gold.

      Our US Constitution requires the Treasury to mint currency…
      The FED on the other hand is COUNTERFEITING debt against the Citizen’s best interests.

      Diluting our wealth since 1933 when an ounce of gold was $20 USD and is now $1,450 USD = 72.5 times is previous value
      A 7,250 % loss of purchasing value.
      Divided by 77 years since FDR stole the gold, or 95% inflation annually

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      1. David

        Well this all sounds good. Now if you can just acknowledge that it all has to be done without banks consuming the finite currencies in interest in order to buy power and ownership over us while contributing nothing to us, and if enough can be mined to make up for economic growth to maintain a consistent value then it all can work.

        Without Banks, anything can work, with them nothing can or ever has.

        Still would strongly suggest separating the means of trade from the store of wealth though so that both can work even better.

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        1. Citizen

          David Doobie True

          You write
          “banks consuming the finite currencies in interest”

          Yea just like businesses making profits will consume all the currencies too!

          How can you make such bovine excrement statements and still expect to be taken seriously?

          In your Marxist Progressive Eugenic (MPE) world, businesses that make PROFITS are equally distasteful as are Banks who make INTEREST and therefore Capitalism is doomed under your system.

          Spooky Michael Montagne aka the Wizard of MPE seems to believe that Individual Preferences don’t have economic consequences. If this is true, then MPE is doomed to failure just like the Soviets system also ignored its “subjects”

          The lot of you MPE groupies have exhibited one uniform character flaw, you all have great disrespect for Ron Paul supporters and for the Congressman himself.

          Marxist Progressive Eugenics (MPE)
          Is a simply communism using a guise of Math Perfect central controls.
          Launching the MPE system would require a total STATE RUN TYRANNY to run a oppressive system of brutal control.

          No Thanks

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        2. David

          Well Citizen, here you go lying again. I have nothing to do with MPE, neither does anyone on here except Jack who is promoting it, and he himself considers it a possible component to a functional solution and not the be all and end all of things.

          The bottom line is were all simply after something that can work, be sustainable, and can finally result in people being allowed to keep and benefit from the full extend of their productive efforts, individually and all as a nation, and it can’t be done with banks.

          You are the Marxist, you are the Communist, who, in violation of the fundamental tenet on which the United States is founded, is advocating absolute tyranny and defending the existence of Banks / yourself ? to establish a ruling class over the American population through control of their currency and the consumption of their productive effort. You stand guilty of Treason against the United States of America along with those you defend, and all you can do in defense of what you defend is lie, lie, and lie some more.

          You still haven’t answered the question of what will prevent the Rothschilds from matching your currency selection and consuming all of ours in 10 years, at 10 % interest without a central bank, without fractional reserve banking, and even without compound interest, and you can’t answer it because any idiot can figure out that this is exactly what will happen. All you can do is lie, it’s pretty obvious who you represent as well, and it sure as hell isn’t the American people.

          Thank you again Citizen Rothschild !

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  19. Jack

    We are NOT Keynesian, We are NOT Austrian, We are NO communists/socialists,………………

    We are People for Mathematically Perfected Economy….

    We do NOT accept pretended economy, we do NOT accept pretended economy on steroid´s….WE ONLY ACCEPT TRUE ECONOMY AND FREE ENTERPRISE.

    By the People, and For the people

    Join us in the real revolution!!

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    1. Citizen

      <<<<>>>>

      They are People for the Marxist Progressive Eugenics control over the world!

      American’s don’t fall for Communist Propaganda schemes

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  20. XGDRabidPanda

    Ron Paul or Revolution

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  21. jim

    I always appreciate how Dr. Paul’s brain works. No matter what propaganda he’s been fed throughout his life he stubbornly sticks to facts like 1 + 1 = 2.

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  22. PureLiberalFire

    – I wish like hell all our money was PRIVATE, and based upon a basket of maybe real estate, gold, silver, copper, oil, natural gas, coal, corn, rice, and wheat!

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  23. PureLiberalFire

    – Hell yeah! :-)

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