219 responses to “Ron Paul: Bring the Troops Home, End the Welfare State, Stop Monetizing Debt”

  1. b4ihang

    Believe me when I say–personal property is the only way toward practical peace, but more importantly peace of mind. Our Constitution’s reason for being is based on acknowledging personal ownership. The alternative is submit to control freak tyrants who believe they know better than everyone else, and who would claim ownership of your very being if they could. You might argue we’re there already–which I’d not disagree, but that is our fault for allowing ourselves to be deceived.

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    1. David

      I like this post B4, simple analysis of the way things are and what needs to be done. I’m reposting a thread between TS and myself from another blog relevant to this as well.

      ……………………………….

      TruthSeeker
      November 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Hope that everyone had a nice Turkey Day!

      I just wanted to make a distinction between liberty of the 1% elite and liberty of the 99% public. When the public speak of individual liberty of each and everyone in the population, that is a true liberty we should all support which the government of the people by the people for the people represents. In this case, the anti-government sentiments should disappear and we are in good hands. However, when the 1% of the elite speaks of individual liberty, they mean their liberty to exploit and dominate the 99% of the population. That is not liberty and it is rather exploitation and oppression. When the 1% elite defend the individual liberty of the 99%, they speak of the 99% liberty to be exploited and used. BEWARE of double talk. Happy Holidays!

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      1. David
      David
      November 27, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink | Reply

      HI TS;

      Yeah i couldn’t agree more and i think that all of the remaining 99 % do as well by this point.

      To get down to the functionality of this, we have only two choices.

      Money, which is needed by the entire population in order to trade with each other can be provided as a public service to the entire population and managed to permit the exchange of all of the useful things which the 99% can do and create for each other, resulting in a free, sustainable and abundant private enterprise system, where profit is made through the creation of wealth, where the 99 % are entitled to the benefits of 100 % of the wealth they create and where the wealth of all will simply keep increasing perpetually with the creation of more wealth by the participants in the economy. This is business, this is enterprise, this is economy and this is freedom. For everyone.

      OR

      Money can be a business as it is today, where profit is made by the manipulation of money, without the creation of wealth by the 1% who create no wealth to exchange in return for profit. Such profit is not a result of freedom but rather a result of the establishment of power which permits the 1% to consume the means of trade and hence the wealth of the 99 % and continue to consume it until there is no longer any means of trade for the 99 % to exchange the wealth they create, as we have just experienced, and where 100 % of any wealth must end up in the hands of the 1% who did not create it with nothing remaining in the hands of the 99% that do. Its catching up to us fast too, i read some statistic which stated that banks have gone from owning 17 % of the wealth in America 10 years ago to 60% today so that number is increasing exponentially and we only have a very short time left before it reaches 100%, and in all this time they have not created one single useful or tangible benefit toward an one or any thing. Since profit from money must come through the establishment of power to make such profit, it must eventually consume all freedom. Since profit from money comes without the creation of wealth, it must also eventually consume all wealth and prosperity from everyone, except for those making profit from money. This is not business, this is not enterprise, this is not an economy but a disease where economy exists to feed a parasitic infection which contributes nothing to it, this is exploitation and oppression of the 99% by the 1% who profit from the control of money, and it sure as hell isn’t freedom. This is simply and only theft and fraud, and its about time that the right of the 99 % to the benefit of the wealth they themselves create be secured for all time against those who would steal it from them, just as our other rights are secured by the United States Constitution against those who would take them from us as well and have acted in violation of this great document of freedom in order to do so.

      Its up to each of us to choose which we will support and defend, since i’m part of the 99 % who creates wealth in exchange for profit, and need only freedom and not power in order to establish prosperity, i will support the former and will do all in my power toward bringing about its establishment for the benefit of myself and all the remaining 99 % engaged in the same. For those who are part of the 1%, they will simply continue to tell more lies, make more mis-associations, create more complexity in simple issues in order to try to fool enough of the 99% into thinking that their power to profit from money constitutes some form of freedom in hopes that the 99% will be foolish enough to allow them to continue to do so, until there is no freedom and no wealth left in the hands of anyone but this 1% who have the power to profit from money, but try as they might they simply cannot demonstrate any tangible benefit from what they propose for anyone but themselves and the 99% are not believing anymore.

      Anyway, for the remainder of the 99% who need to end this power and secure their freedom and right to benefit from the wealth that they themselves create, i’m reposting our initial effort toward this end and any and all will appreciate any participation each of you can contribute to it.

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      WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
      DO HEREBY DECLARE AND DEMAND:

      “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

      It is not the system of government that has failed the American People, it is the number of people that are within the government that have failed;

      Who have willfully and repeatedly committed gross acts of treason against the United States of America and its population in violation of their oaths of office and their common duty as United States citizens. Who have abrogated their Constitutional responsibility to supply and manage our national currency to private banks of not only domestic but of foreign interest. Who having conspired with such banks and corporations whom through theft, fraud, corruption and deception, have continued in a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object of reducing the American people under absolute Despotism in order to establish themselves as a “ruling elite” and gain absolute power and ownership over America, its industry, resources and over its population for themselves, in direct violation of the fundamental tenet on which the United States of America is founded, that all men are created equal.

      We the people claim the Right of the People to alter this form of Government;

      All within our government who are complicit in these acts of treason will be given a short time to renounce their treason and re-affirm their oaths of allegiance to the United States of America and we the people. They will hold such banks and corporations accountable for their theft, fraud and conspiracy against the American people and the United States of America, declare all debts created by them, both public and private, null and void, seize whatever assets are in their possession and return them to we the people. They will define all business which takes profit without returning something of tangible benefit to the population a criminal practice. They will be given a short time to fulfill their constitutional obligation to create and manage a debt free public currency of whatever form they deem necessary, which will exist simply and only to facilitate the creation and consumption of production and services by the population and exist for the sole and exclusive benefit of the people of America. They will immediately and by whatever means necessary, issue this currency into circulation among the population in sufficient quantity to restore the United States economy to the extent where sufficient currency is maintained in circulation at all times in order to pay for the full value of all useful production and services which the population is able to generate for all time to come. They will be given a short time to restore all constitutional freedoms to their fullest extent. They shall within a reasonable time make such constitutional amendments as are necessary to permanently secure every aspect of our national currency and its management exclusively to congress, where it can no longer be usurped by private interests in further attempts to reduce us under absolute despotism. They shall within a reasonable time abolish the 16th amendment of the United States Constitution and secure exclusive rights to loan and collect interest on the United States currency to congress and to state and local governments to fund their operations in lieu of taxes and they will ensure full public access to the currency on a local level, maintaining accounts, issuing loans and providing all essential financial services to the population.

      Upon the failure of this number of people within the government to do so, we the people will fulfill our right and our duty to abolish the current form of Government and provide new safeguards for our own security by whatever means are necessary.

      We the people of the United States of America have had enough. The evils have become insufferable and we are not going to take anymore. This better happen soon !

      ……………………..

      Instructions, for those who agree:

      Copy this Demand / Declaration and send it to your senators and congressmen

      http://www.congress.org/

      Then paste this demand into an email and send to everyone on your list, ask them to act on it and forward it on. Post this demand along with these instructions on any other blog sites or wherever else any of you go on the internet where you are able to post something so that more people can see it and act on it.

      Thanks Everyone

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  2. sam mad

    End terror & drug wars NOW, RP is great but money and “Free market” is ROOT of problems

    1. how do you stop corruption caused by profit motive?

    2. how do you ensures everyone has minimum necessities?

    ANSWER
    1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property

    2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft

    3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery

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  3. dontblockmedk

    End terror & drug wars NOW, RP is great but money and “Free market” is ROOT of problems

    1. how do you stop corruption caused by profit motive?

    2. how do you ensures everyone has minimum necessities?

    ANSWER
    1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property

    2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft

    3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery

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    v=Cf1gZxmIDKw

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  4. dudes110

    Ronald Reagan said it best!!!
    “There spending like drunken sailors but that wouldn’t be fair to drunken sailors because the drunken sailors are spending there own money”

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  5. VisionsOfTheNobody

    Yep! This is a great way to spread the message. :)

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  6. jlbarber54

    In some states yes but in most we have the edge and are educating and planting seeds. For that reason, you will see Dr. Ron put his hat in the ring. Have you noticed that some of the Tea Party leaders do not mix well during their national events. Just notice the expressions and the steadfastness of the middle of the country states Tea Party reps, they are not in agreement with Palin and others on foriegn afairs. You will not see that on Fox only on other networks.

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  7. jlbarber54

    In some states yes but in most we have the edge and are educating and planting seeds. For that reason, you will see Dr. Ron put his hat in the ring. Have you noticed that some of the Tea Party leaders do not mix well during their national events. Just notice the expressions and the steadfastness of the middle of the country states Tea Party reps, they are not in agreement with Palin and others on foriegn afairs. You will not see that on Fox only on other networks.

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  8. bitemebig100

    this fuck needs to die

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  9. Stevil3113

    Agreed … claiming to be tea party’ers

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  10. pretorious700

    The GOP has co-opted the tea party, it’s dominated by the Neocons and the right wing fringe now.

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  11. jlbarber54

    Lets just bring the boys and ladies home from everywhere and save a trillion dollars. Let the rest of the world pay for its own security.

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  12. jlbarber54

    They are voting now… About 60% of the Tea Party is Paul Supporters. The establishment just does not talk about it. The Paul supporters have a small edge in the Nevada Republican Party. He won this state in the 2008 primary but the establishment State Chair stopped the convention and vote counting right before the completion as Ron Paul was clearly ahead. Do to Sue Lowden’s actions against Paul’s victory; she was lost the primary to Sharon Angle.

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  13. jlbarber54

    Our foreign policy is for one purpose; protect Americans on American soil. For some reason our political leaders want to make the world safe for democracy even if they don’t want it. The cost of this ambition is approx. 1 trillion dollars per year and thousands of our bravest. 700 bases in 130 countries, for what? If Americans wish to invest overseas, do so at your own risk. If you want to be protected, stay here. Hmmm that just might bring our manufacturing base back.

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    1. Citizen

      I’m a big supporter of strong Defense… It’s the Imperial OFFENSE that’s getting tough to swallow.

      BULLETS:
      The enemy is our own Military Industrial Complex funded by Republican politicians who use the FED to sponsor our Imperial Empire expansion.

      BUTTER:
      Our other enemy is our Progressive DEMS who fund the Union Monopolies who use the FED to buy their social voting block to keep them in power.

      NEITHER are Constitutionally proper policies,
      Now What (if anything) Are WE Going to Do About It??

      America…. I Love This Country

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  14. jeremy8080

    Its time for this man to be in the White House!

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  15. MrMentalflossed

    one of the greats ,..
    I endorse him with all 210 IQ points.
    If he were 20 years younger the elite would have to gun this man down .
    He pulls influence with TRUTH alone , not an Obama face man with well researched media polling.

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  16. tooldruid

    I love that Dr. Paul is not in line with these new tea party religious extremists who have been sadly, hijacked by corporate right wing whores.

    Dr. Paul knows their extremism is bizarre and unfounded. These paranoid right wingers are living in a fantasy of misinformation. HE IS THE TRUTH – NOT THE NEW TEA PARTY, Listen to HIM!!!

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  17. safuker

    Americas only hope.

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  18. Hal Roberts

    BOGUS Banks , Wall Street and THE FED

    Mad? Ride the Ron Paul Silver Party Tide Buy Silver bullion. Make um feel the burn.
    Dam a banker.

    We the People who support the USA should buy up all the silver we can make um bleed take the brick and mortar Silver off the Table 1 oz at a time. Target just the Silver.

    Make um EAT there paper lies. Dam a Banker.

    A lot of us are ridding the tide already get on board while theres still time.$

    Hal Roberts
    iiliiwto.Blogspot.com

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  19. VisionsOfTheNobody

    And so we need to convince these people about how good this would come out in the end, so they can realize how important this situation is!

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  20. Schne Boll

    Thank goodness for the internet and youtube huh

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  21. Schneboll

    Thank goodness for the internet and youtube huh

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  22. VisionsOfTheNobody

    Indeed… :)

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  23. VisionsOfTheNobody

    Hurray for Ron Paul! People’s candidate for 2012!

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  24. VisionsOfTheNobody

    Not think… IS in his core understanding the role of the US in the world, and how the world works… He’s been like this for soo many years, and now people are finally listening to him! :D

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  25. Stevil3113

    Love that ron paul is talking shit about the tea parties… he started that shit and then it was high jacked by ass bad god fundamentalists.

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  26. pretorious700

    Dr. Paul is in a strange, almost untenable position. He’s an elected official, a politician if you will, who understands that there is no “political” solution to the problems in the US. He’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. The whole system is so entrenched and the average citizen is so clueless and/or brainwashed that what he says falls mainly on deaf ears, or the people who “get it” are such a small minority, and are those people less inclined to vote at all.

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  27. calicarlos619

    If Ron runs in 2012 he is a lock for president. Im calling it right!!!!!

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  28. TerrorWarrior5000

    Ron Paul is a communist kook. His son Racist Rand is to the left of Mao.

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    1. Brian Handey

      Yeah, he’s real racist. Nice argument. You people who throw around the race card are pathetic. All you care about is identifying people by superficial characteristics. Is there a reason there’s a Congressional Black Caucus? Talk about racist. Doesn’t get more racist than that.

      “In 2004, independent presidential candidate and consumer activist Ralph Nader attended a meeting with the Caucus which turned into a shouting exchange. The caucus urged Nader to give up his presidential run, fearing that it could hurt John Kerry, the Democratic Party’s nominee. Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) called the upcoming election “a life or death matter” for the Caucus members’ constituents. Nader accused Congressman Mel Watt of twice uttering an “obscene racial epithet” towards Nader; he alleged that Watt said: “You’re just another arrogant white man – telling us what we can do – it’s all about your ego – another f—king arrogant white man.” Watt never offered an apology.[13]”

      RACIALLY EXCLUSIVE

      The Black Caucus has refused to let non-black members who represent primarily black districts join, even when they represented the organization’s Liberal Democratic views.

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  29. Hannanstl

    RP ! RP ! 2012

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  30. EMPIRE0FLIES

    Troops all around the world supposedly holding our empire and the Chinese lighting off ICBMs off the coast of California. What a clusterF…

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  31. TerrorWarrior5000

    Ron Paul is a kooky poopie liberal Nazi!

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    1. Brian Handey

      Do you even know what a Nazi is? Or a liberal? You should just disappear since you obviously can’t even understand the accusations you’re throwing out there. What is going on now is more in line with Nazism than anything else. To rescue Germany from the effects of the Great Depression, Nazism promoted an economic Third Position; a managed economy that was neither capitalist nor communist.

      So how is Ron Paul a Nazi if he’s advocating a free market approach to economics and the elimination of a central bank? Having a central bank in Europe is what allowed WWI to go on for so long, along with Woodrow Wilson’s decision to enter the war, which led to the rise of Communism in Russia and Hitler coming to power in Germany. Woodrow had a central bank – the Federal Reserve – to count on, and only around 22% of the war was actually paid for through taxation.

      If you think Ron Paul’s kooky, then I guess our Founding Fathers must have been kooky, too. What’s really kooky is having a name like “TerrorWarrior5000.” Are you a real Terror Warrior? Yeah, I bet you are. You must have been the baddest apple in the orchard.

      Do the world a favor, would you? Go lock yourself in your room, read a few history books, economic pamphlets, and get yourself a decent education so you can come back and apologize to the rest of us on this site for your ignorance and lack of true understanding.

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  32. Ribbin525

    Ron Paul is one of the few politicians out there that speak logically and intelligently. End the Fed and the corruption…Ron for President 2012!

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  33. WomanOfFaith024

    I don’t understand how people can listen to this and deny that the Federal Reserve system is the root of all of our problems; economy, war, freedom, debt, reigning in congress. It has become apparent to me the only way we are going to get our government back is if this man is elected in 2012. Don’t compromise, don’t choose between a jackass and an elephant who are all rhetoric and no action. Vote for the future of this country, vote for your savings, vote for your freedoms; VOTE RON PAUL 2012.

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  34. bitemebig100

    obama rules deal with it you teabaggers

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  35. bitemebig100

    what a total fag

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