Wikileaks Reveals U.S. Government’s Delusional Foreign Policy
by Ron Paul
We may never know the whole story behind the recent publication of sensitive U.S. government documents by the Wikileaks organization, but we certainly can draw some important conclusions from the reaction of so many in government and media.
At its core, the Wikileaks controversy serves as a diversion from the real issue of what our foreign policy should be. But the mainstream media, along with neoconservatives from both political parties, insist on asking the wrong question. When presented with embarrassing disclosures about U.S. spying and meddling, the policy that requires so much spying and meddling is not questioned. Instead, the media focus on how so much sensitive information could have been leaked, or how authorities might prosecute the publishers of such information.
No one questions the status quo or suggests a wholesale rethinking of our foreign policy. No one suggests that the White House or the State Department should be embarrassed that the U.S. engages in spying and meddling. The only embarrassment is that it was made public. This allows ordinary people to actually know and talk about what the government does. But state secrecy is anathema to a free society. Why exactly should Americans be prevented from knowing what their government is doing in their name?
In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, however, we are in big trouble. The truth is that our foreign spying, meddling, and outright military intervention in the post-World War II era has made us less secure, not more. And we have lost countless lives and spent trillions of dollars for our trouble. Too often “official” government lies have provided justification for endless, illegal wars and hundreds of thousands of resulting deaths and casualties.
Take the recent hostilities in Korea as only one example. More than fifty years after the end of the Korean War, American taxpayers continue to spend billions for the U.S. military to defend a modern and wealthy South Korea. The continued presence of the U.S. military places American lives between the two factions. The U.S. presence only serves to prolong the conflict, further drain our empty treasury, and place our military at risk.
The neoconservative ethos, steeped in the teaching of Leo Strauss, cannot abide an America where individuals simply pursue their own happy, peaceful, prosperous lives. It cannot abide an America where society centers around family, religion, or civic and social institutions rather than an all powerful central state. There is always an enemy to slay, whether communist or terrorist. In the neoconservative vision, a constant state of alarm must be fostered among the people to keep them focused on something greater than themselves — namely their great protector, the state. This is why the neoconservative reaction to the Wikileaks revelations is so predictable: “See, we told you the world was a dangerous place,” goes the story. They claim we must prosecute — or even assassinate — those responsible for publishing the leaks. And we must redouble our efforts to police the world by spying and meddling better, with no more leaks.
We should view the Wikileaks controversy in the larger context of American foreign policy. Rather than worry about the disclosure of embarrassing secrets, we should focus on our delusional foreign policy. We are kidding ourselves when we believe spying, intrigue, and outright military intervention can maintain our international status as a superpower while our domestic economy crumbles in an orgy of debt and monetary debasement.
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I see three things coming out of the WikiLeaks situation:
1. A bunch of diplomats are going to be pissed at each other for no good reason
2. We will all suffer from our governments butting into our internet useage
3. Our governments will not change what they think of each other, just how they protect their thoughts
I think Assange, a non-deserving hero, will spend a lot of time in jail and a lot of donor funds all due to his poorly planned business model.
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The whole wiki leaks thing is yet another false flag event to provoke a “Patriot Act” of the internet in the usa, and people are eating up yet again. When are we as a whole, going to get the big picture?
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You’ve failed to explain how the Wikileaks guy spied for a foreign government or attempted to overthrow the U.S. government. Why is that, douchebag? It’s obvious you have no argument. Keep crying, loser.
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I wish i could vote for this man. Being a Pakistani i know how important it is for the US to elect a president who is not a puppet to zionist corporate sector of the US. The world is ganging up against Pakistan in favour of india only because they want access to indian market. But the world keeps a tight lip when indian state sponsored terrorists kill more than 30000 Pakistanis under the flag of tehrik e taliban. What a shame we dont have more men like Ron Paul who can bring a end to this mess.
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Wikeleaks, The movie
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http://anonops.blogspot.com/p/movie.html
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Wikeleaks, The movie
http://anonops.blogspot.com/p/movie.html
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I guess you didn’t take your meds today, freak, because you are evidently imagining things. You never once defined anything at all, at least not to me. I just went through all your comments directed at me and nowhere were there any definitions of anything. Ironically, however, you implied I didn’t use a dictionary even though I quoted from a credible online one. Face it, clown, you failed to make a case for your sorry, ludicrous argument. Back to the bong for you, jackass.
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3:50 “DOMESTIC ECONOMY CRUMBLES IN AN ORGY OF DEBT AND MONETARY DEBASEMENT”. THIS IS ALOT FUNNIER IF YOU IMAGINE IT IN THE LITERAL SENSE. 4:06 DUBYA DUBYA DUBYA. ALL JOKING ASIDE THIS WAS A PRETTY POWERFUL TALK. THE GOVERNMENT ISNT LIKE AN OLDER BROTHER. ITS LIKE A BRAIN DAMAGED ABUSIVE FATHER. TO BE HONEST PART OF ME ACTUALLY WANTS TO BLAME EVERY GENERATION THAT CAME AFTER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION FOR SLOWLY DETERIORATING OUR NATION ESPECIALLY THOSE FOLLOWING WORLD WAR 2. BUT ITS NOT THEM.ITS US
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Word… Ron Paul proves that in the world of the insane, the sane man is regularly written off as a “nut job”.
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Free Assange now.
Wikileaks still needs funds to keep exposing our corrupt political elite
Donations can be made through Xipwire
Wikileaks IP Address 213.251.145.96
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This youtube video is worth watching. its a extradition lawyer talking about what the USA is up too. don’t loose the extradition to sweden because the US will take Julian Assange I think.
youtube.com/watch?v=htL1iis8blw&feature=pyv&ad=7115312610&kw=julian%20assange
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It is about god damn time that someone had the courage to say it like it is without pandering to the neo conservative narrative.
Kudos to you sir! One of the few times I have heard a politician speak with honesty, integrity and principle.
I do sincerely hope Ron Paul runs for President. I am not even American but am moved to start believing in politics again. I will gladly donate as much as I can to support someone who really can champion the interest of the electorate rather than the corporate.
Ron Paul for president !
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Dallas based community that supports WikiLeaks!!!!
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I hadn’t read the other comments posted regarding the disagreement between myself and Mr. Bernard until after I put up my most recent post.
Some of the other posts have merit that I think all of us should consider.
Jeremy in particular brings up a great point that perhaps Mr. Bernard’s education would help to give us some insight that none of us have yet considered. We are ALL ignorant on some level. No one knows everything nor could they ever know.
We need to unite instead of splintering. We need to realize that there are only two groups, the Have’s and the Have Not’s. If you aren’t a member of the ruling elite and unless you’re in the top 1% wealthiest in this country you aren’t, then you’re in the Have Not’s with the rest of us.
While I do tend to agree more with the post by Geoff Webster as I eluded to in my most recent post, it would be most appreciate if Mr. Bernard would bring his opinions and views to the discussion.
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To Patrick Bernard:
While the first post of yours I replied to displayed your ignorance, your most recent post displays your arrogance.
To imply that only people with PhD’s are somehow qualified to even be involved in this discussion, shows your arrogance. Note to all posters: If you don’t have at least a PhD or higher please keep your uneducated opinions to yourself!
In typical ignorant fashion, you have found an excuse, as lame as it is, to not debate the issue by falling back on your “superior education and intellect”. What this really means is that you’ve been so deeply programmed, in part whilst obtaining your higher education, that you cannot see the truth.
You as most people do, know that what our government is doing is morally, ethically, legally and spiritually wrong! Deep down inside most of us know but too many just can’t or don’t want to acknowledge it. Reasons such as that it hurts too much, they feel powerless to stop it or they’re just too lazy and don’t care.
For you to acknowledge what our government, at the direction of the Global Corporations, is doing would be far too painful for you. It would mean that you would have to have an entire paradigm shift that cuts across the grain of everything you’ve been told your whole life as we all have been.
America is always the good guy with the white hat. We’re always there to help other countries. Democracy (even though this country was founded as a Republic) should be spread the world over to make people free. That anyone who doesn’t agree with democracy is an our enemy who is out to destroy our American way of life. If you grew up here and went to American schools, regardless of how far you went in your education you too were indoctrinated with this BS.
This is all partially true. Most Americans are good people with good intentions. We’ve seen this in the recent past with Americans coming together to help each other in the aftermaths of Katrina and 9/11. Most Americans care about their families as Mr. Bernard’s post clearly shows his love and concern for his own.
The problem is not with the average American citizen but with our government and the people who run and or control it. These people gladly send the family members of people like Mr. Bernard to die in foreign lands in the name of freedom but really they die, or are maimed both physically and emotionally, for their Corporate Masters in order to control more and more resources which are becoming less and less available while other Mega Corporations profit making the arms used to equip and execute these illegal wars.
The people who are really in charge of this country are not sending their children to die in these wars. They send the children of the poor. The people who are really in charge of this country aren’t paying for these wars either. They are giving the bill to the American tax payer.
As history has shown us, war, any war, is always fought by the elite or ruling class at the expense of the rest of the people for control either of territory, resources or for religious or ideological beliefs. It has always been this way. These wars are no different.
Perhaps Mr. Bernard your educational dollars would have been better spent on a PhD in history.
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bring the leaks, hell i want to know what these nuts have been up to!..knowing is half the battle right
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Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilen are the two women accusing Julian Assange of “rape”.
Anna Ardin has ties to a CIA backed anti-Fidel Castro group and is an ardent feminist. She played a role in bringing Assange to Sweden for a conference, became his press secretary, had consensual sex with him and later went to authorities with rape accusations. Her friend Sofia Wilén did the same.
IT’S ALL BULLSHIT, FREE ASSANGE NOW!
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Wikileaks has clearly broken no laws that I am aware of,and further more the people in the military who are in these illegal wars against brown skinned humanity are more likely to come home as a result of the truth told to the American public.Messy,true,but so is the situation they are already in.So in conclusion that guy with the P.H.D. can shove it up his ass.America is about making money and being free and if you don’t understand that you are in the wrong country.America will survive by cutting off you useless turds and returning to common sense.Good luck finding a job when people wake up,although the world needs ditch diggers.
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“espionage”:
“The act or practice of spying or of using spies to obtain secret information, as about another government or a business competitor.”
“spy”:
“An agent employed by a state to obtain secret information, especially of a military nature, concerning its potential or actual enemies.”
Looks like you were wrong. Shocker.
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What I read in Wikileaks is the story of a government that serves corporations and banks (the fed), and will do anything in its power to oppress people and to steal their resources and their labor. I support Ron Paul and I support Wikileaks.
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YOUTUBE HAS BLOCKED ME FROM POSTING IMPORTANT INFORMATION I POSSESS CONCERNING THE CIA AND THE WikiLeaks CONNECTION ON MY CHANNEL. IT CONCERNS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF CENSORING THE US WEB! WE ARE ALL BEING SCAMMED!
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LEAVE IT TO RON PAUL TO SPEAK TRUTH ON MATTERS LIKE THIS.
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Keep in mind we must not allow them to get us to be distrustful in our government. We just need to clean out or corruption not START FROM SCRATCH that is what they want to start the NEW WORLD ORDER open society. The wikileaks are all being done Via the progressive movement. both sides are the progressives. The Releasing and the want for control of it are the same guys.
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“TRUTH IS TREASON IN THE EMPIRE OF LIES” – RON PAUL
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“When truth becomes treason”. It doesn’t get any clearer than now, especially with the sex crime charges. The “sex crime” is a condom breaking. She didn’t give permission for sex without a condom, but it broke during sex. They can’t fight him on the merits of free speech or freedom of the press, so they make up bull shit charges and try to imprison him as a sex offender.
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Well said Ron – finally some calm, moderate response to the incident. Go Wikileaks!
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To Patrick Bernard: You and people who think like you are why this country is in the trouble it’s in. You ignorance is on full display with your post here.
While I would doubt anyone including myself would want to see any harm to come to a member of your family serving in the military the real question you and all of us should be asking is why are ANY of your family members potentially in harms way?
It’s because of 50 plus years of sticking our noses in other countries business to protect US and Global Corporate Interests. Period! God forbid that any harm should come to a member of your family then you have no one but yourself and others of like mind to blame.
Until a foreign enemy lands on American soil NONE of our kids should be put in harms way! This is all about making money and dominating resources for the elite who couldn’t care less if your family member is harmed or not. Their kids certainly aren’t going.
Our government should not be involved in actions that should EVER cause embarrassment to the US nor should it continue to squander our hard earned tax dollars on illegal, never ending wars that profit only the Military/Industrial complex.
I’m sorry that you feel your family members well being is only worth enough to line some old, rich, white guys pockets with money.
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@ Jeff Thomerson
When you get a PhD in International Relations and Foreign policy I will speak to you sensibly about this topic. I have no intention of dicussing something so complicated with a neophyte who discusses something out of emotions based on fiction and misbliefs. You obviously do not understand the basic failures of foreign policy of Chamberlain pre WW1 and American Foreign policy pre and post WW1 and pre WW2 let alone historical world foreign policy of the past 300 years. You are like a student, led by emotion, not by facts. With those, we don’t discuss we tell them to read and learn.
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If you could please continue to the conversation back and forth.
Thank you
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Patrick, what a shame that you display such patronizing arrogance. If we were to take your argument to the extreme – and I think your argument is; no discussing any topic without possessing high academic achievement – there would be no democracy. At the extreme we would have to consider a world of political representatives returned by academics. I posit that would be a scary world. Now I’m not arguing against academics existing (that would be akin to a turkey voting for Christmas), no, I’m saying how wrong it is to assume that to join any debate you must have followed a particular narrow discipline and think in ways that match all those others that followed that discipline. Also please note that some of the best politicians and international diplomats, in the history of the world, never had any qualifications in the areas they worked.
Finally, to everyone else reading this, can I just say that I believe that Ron Pauls statement on Wikileaks is refreshing and has the sound of sanity to it, although without looking closer at his other views I can not draw any conclusions.
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Wow Wow! Emotions run high in a debate like these. This all I have seen 80% of the time people just let their emotions run wild. Not good and when a person has a good point if its right or wrong or just crazy aka way out in left field. What the case be no matter how educated a person clams to the people will always attack and..
Well this is crazy here we have a person whom clams to know something that be able to help us out to figure something here and yet all you can do is to attack him. Not cool!
Before you can say anything to this matter please look at both the good and bad of it.
And let us stop the emotional fights.
To become a power of wealth and freedom we need to first educate our self.
Education is key.
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as JFK said the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.
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The soldier who stole this information will be prosecuted in a military tribunal and I hope he is charged with treason and gets the maximum penalty. He is not covered under the Freedom of Information Act. A soldier is taught to take and follow orders or someone may die. Giving information to people like Wikileaks, while seaming seem like a good idea at the time, may have cost lives. If a fellow solidier on anyonelse dies as a result of this then it is wrong. If a family member of mine dies as a result I am not coming for Wikileaks, I am coming for you because you encourage this. We do not need to know certain things that is used to protect our lives. I would just as soon you thank them for protecting you and all you idiots that believe that you need to know information that can hurt you. We DO NOT NEED TO KNOW. By giving this information out only enables our enemies. The old addage from WWII holds true today and that is LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS and those that give this information out should be tried for Treason AND in this case as TERRORIST since they threaten our security. I hope the solider that released the information never sees the light of day except within a prison compound and hopefully in GUANTANAMO.
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@Patrick Bernard
Wow talk about total ignorance on the subject.
First off how do diplomatic cables put our soldiers at risk? The politicians making the statements put our soldiers at risk! Put them in jail and try them for treason.
Also as a military member it is your Duty to NOT follow orders if you consider it unlawful or immoral. Have you ever been a solider before? If you had read the soldiers reasons for exposing the information you would know this. If you aren’t a soldier or have been one you really don’t have experience in the matter and can only repeat what someone else has told you rather than live and experience it. There is a huge difference between theory and practice especially in human behavior.
Also explain how releasing diplomatic cables will “sink ships?” or put you personally in danger? Talk about spewing rhetoric.
The US has become a state of sheeple. Let’s not think for ourselves or question authority as it has our best interest at heart. Nothing to see here move along while we test syphilis on people from other countries. Yes that happened During WW1 to WW2.
I have 1 word, accountability. Everyone needs to get some.
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OKAY!
DH
Wow theirs things you don’t quite understand here an order is an order. A unlawful order is not up to the solider. There are regulations that state what unlawful orders are.
You wrote.
“Also as a military member it is your Duty to NOT follow orders if you consider it unlawful or immoral.” It doesn’t work this way.
Have you ever been a solider before? (YES)
TO Patrick Bernard
I agree with your first statement having your PHD in this matter, cause as I have seen most don’t quite understand what is truly at stake here. However I will never say I have my PHD cause this shit changes every day.
With this wikileaks spill I stand torn apart in one hand I like it to a degree. Meaning hopefully the people will see the truth and jump towards putting a stop to a lot of things. To get the support of the people is key in times like this cause it is coming to where people no longer support us and seem not know what they are truly mad at or what to be mad at. I myself get confused at times.
Then on the hand I don’t like because yes there are things that the people don’t need to know.
For instant a few years back maybe a long time ago the time in which it happen doesn’t matter. The fact of what happen is key. Focus please! There were a group of military men who flew to a place and where shot down because someone had release information about their objective.
“HINTS THE WORDS LOSE LIPS SNIK SHIPS”
Now to look at the real word at times we have to protect the dealer to catch the supplier. It’s not always liked but its reality.
Any how I would love to see the US be no longer apart of the UN or at least, see us go from paying over 50% of the national defenses to around 10-20%, or even less. And no longer just give our stuff to other countries. But we need to educated our self in the important of all this.
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Too bad Assange and Wikileaks are not willing to adhere to the same standard of transparency they are asking our governments to meet.
If they were to publish their bank account numbers, credit cards and government pension id’s with the associated passwords, then I would accept their acts of stealing and publishing government secrets. Our money, homes, family are our security… state secrets are our governments security. I am sure their fortunes and security would evaporate overnight if they agreed to my proposal.
If they are looking to expose ill deals or topple the US government, then who is going to keep global power and finance in balance? The UN? China? The EU?
Speaking of the UN, China and the EU, I am sure they all have more sordid secrets than the USA. When is Wikileaks releasing their state secrets?See More
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We need to stop putting some much fate into one person or maybe just a few. He can not do anyhting alone, we need teachers, lawyers, judges, and congressmen whom will stand against all these things that need to be changed.
The people still have there 2/3rds vote we just need the others to follow threw.
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It’s funny to see how those who constantly bitch about government intervention now are siding with the government…
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