Ron Paul joined Neil Cavuto on FOX News to discuss the ongoing crisis in Egypt, the problem of foreign aid, and the consequences of choosing sides on an international stage.
Neil Cavuto: A mess that’s getting messier, and reason enough for Texas Republican Ron Paul to say, “The U.S. should stop getting in deeper and cut all financial to Egypt now.” The Congressman joins me now on the phone. Well, that would be a big move, Congressman.
Ron Paul: Well, it would, but I’d include everybody, because I think we just get ourselves into too much trouble. This is a typical example of what happens when we run an interventionist-type foreign policy; we get in the middle of these fights. But we’ve been in the middle of this for 30 years over there. We’ve given Mubarak $60 billion, you know. And so we’re responsible for a lot of the mess that’s over there.
Neil Cavuto: What if we did indeed pull out or stop giving them money? The argument is someone else comes in to our detriment. What do you say?
Ron Paul: Well, that may be, but you don’t know whether it would be to our detriment. Somebody else is going to come in, the big fight now is for us to be charge. I mean, if Mubarak survives, we want to be on his side. If they get a new guy, we want to be on their side. And I just think that doesn’t work, because eventually the people rebel. For a while it seems to be stable, but it’ so artificial.
I mean, all that money going over there, they have a 450,000 man army that will probably be turned against the people unless they take over the government, and there’s a lot of wealth there for a few people, and the people are suffering. It just sets the stage for this. They should be forced to live within their means and take care of themselves. But I would do that with all countries, I wouldn’t just cut off Egyptian aid, I’d cut off all aid to the Middle East, and maybe that whole area would be better off for it.
Neil Cavuto: Well, the argument against doing that, Congressman – we’ve heard this so many times – is that in this case the Muslim Brotherhood through groups like Al-Qaida and the rest would get an enormous influence in the region, a region rich in oil, and we’d be having to kowtow to them.
Ron Paul: Yea, that is the argument. But have they ever thought whether the growth of groups like this is because they have a target, and the target is us, our puppet governments? I mean, we didn’t have to worry about radical mullahs in Iran until we put the Shah in, and then it took a couple of decades and finally the people rebelled and there was a revolution and there was a blowback to us and an unintended consequence.
So yes, I think we have to worry about the radicals, but we have to understand how they get their motivation; and their motivation, how they arouse the people and radicalize them is when we take over. I mean, I think the big issue here is how long is it going to take for this to happen in Saudi Arabia and for people to say that’s impossible, I think they’re kidding themselves. Now that would be big news and that would be major. Maybe that’s why some people are discounting that and I think oil went up 6 to 7 dollars in the last trading day.
Neil Cavuto: That’s right.
Ron Paul: So there’s something significant going on, there’s a lot of concern there.
Ron Paul: On the fear of just that. Great, Congressman, thank you very much. Good having you.
Ron Paul: Sure thing.