Date: 02/10/2011
Transcript
Dylan Ratigan: Congressman Ron Paul joining the conversation. Congressman, is there anything that anybody outside of the borders of that country can or should do?
Ron Paul: Well, we should have done a lot less, a lot sooner because we’re in the middle of this. I mean he’s been our puppet dictator. We’ve given him 70 billion dollars, a bunch of it is in a private bank already, but we built his army. We sell him the weapons. We give them the weapons because we gave him the money. So, we’re in the middle of it and of course now, our government doesn’t know who to support and who not to support. So, they’re trying to line up with the next dictator. It just points out so tragically why intervention in the internal affairs of other nations eventually backfires on us. We’re just now angling to have control afterwards. I would say we’d be better off letting the Egyptians settle this problem.
Dylan Ratigan: Are you making a call, Congressman, for an overhaul of American foreign policy based on what you just said?
Ron Paul: Absolutely! I’ve been doing it in a good many years. I believe in the Constitutional foreign policy of the founders that advocated non-intervention which means that we start bringing our troops home as soon as possible and we bring our money home too. It’s going to happen if we’re going to have a bankruptcy. The Soviet system collapsed, not for military reasons but for financial reasons. So, this is an indication that we wasted our 70 billion dollars. Even the so-called stability that it bought for awhile, it leads to these kind of very, very dangerous situations. I do believe that tomorrow is going to be – if not sooner – a very wild and violent day in Egypt.
Dylan Ratigan: Fawaz, your thoughts on the American Congressman’s observations?
Fawaz Georges: Well, the reality is that at the end of the day, I hope that we learn the lessons from the Tunisian and the Egyptian case. I’m saying, we Americans – the American foreign policy community – at the end of the day, the Middle East has been a dismal failure, a disaster, for American foreign policy, but also at the end of the day, Egyptians are determining their future as you’ll see. The United States has very limited options at this particular moment. I would like President Barrack Obama to make it very clear that the United States, basically, takes sides on the side of the rising social forces – the human rights, the rule of law – those people who are really trying to own their history and basically determine their own affairs. But, I think, in the next few days, the United States must think very clearly about what its response will be if and when the army intervenes to suppress the protesters, what tomorrow might be a bloodbath if the protesters try to march to the Presidential Palace. The next few days are going to be extremely dangerous and I hope the United States has a clear position, a clear stand, when and if the ‘plunge’ takes place in Egypt.
Dylan Ratigan: Ron Paul, Ronald Reagan famous both in 1982 with Poland and in 1989 with the Berlin Wall for doing precisely what Fawaz just described – getting behind the pro-democracy forces, demanding the tearing down of the wall. Do you believe the United States should get behind that crowd?
Ron Paul: I don’t think it’s the same analogy. This is a lot of money and a lot of weapons, and we’re just trying to buy influence. It’s the same old policy of staying there and trying to pick sides. There’s nobody capable of knowing, who’s the one person that we can stand behind. Unless he gets our money… that military is very powerful now, but the military depends on us. So, we’re in the middle of this! To just say that we have to get behind another group, it sounds good, but can diplomatically once it’s settled down, for us to go in there and settle this fight, I think, is wrong and very, very dangerous and it will make things that much worse.
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heres an idea- pull our money from pakistan- egypt- saudi-s etc- use that money to put unemployed people to work doing public works projects- cleanup- shovel ready jobs for our crumbling infrastructure-
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Made U.S.A will used agianst them really funny hahaha!!!
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Mubarak will use the money from america agianst the Egyptian ppl and the U.S
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The American government just can’t stop stealing. It’s a kleptomaniac. It steals from foreign nations, it steals from it’s citizens (if you think you’re getting Social Security in 10 years, surprise!), it steals from everybody.
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We have problems of our own, they need to help themselves.
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All the US is going to is cause more problems over in Egypt.
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Ron Paul solutions are sadly impossible, the process isnt allowed, whether its a fail or not.
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fuck’em over there in egypt. if they get outta hand let the jews wipe’m off the map and things will settle down real fast.
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RON PAUL ONLY PERSON NOT BEIN CONTROLED BY ZIONIST BANKERS RON PAUL 4 PRESIDENT FUCK ISRAEL
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Why doesn’t Texas solve its own fvking problems instead of scavenging off the rest of us..
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NO dislikes so far….that in itself speaks volumes!
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my question for ron paul is will america ever pay retributions for all the millions of people its killed over the past 50 years
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I say we invade.
[trollface]
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We all need to encourage and support Ron Paul to run for office again, and if they try to black him out like last time, we all meet in washington and put him there ourselves!!
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The problem with main-stream American media coverage of these events, including this broadcast, is the absolute obfuscation and disconnect, of our continued support of this regime over the past 30 years, which was bi-partisan. Now, all of a sudden, since shit is hitting the fan, the media ‘supports’ the people , without examining their OWN role in propping up American Foreign Policy, which they now conveniently glance over, as WE had nothing to do with it. It’s almost comical, but not really.
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I don’t understand how anyone but a neocon could disagree with Paul on foreign policy.
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The Egyptian Army isn’t going to do shit, unless it receives the promise of continued support from the US Government at this very moment. In other words, if the Army moves against the people, it will be with the tacit support of the American foreign policy establishment. Ron Paul is correct on this issue, even though I disagree with him on many other things, including his economic philosophy. I’ll give him credit, when due.
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Dylan was getting snappy with Ron towards the end.
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STAY OUT! STAY OUT! STAY OUT!
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lol no you may not
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Ratigan should “take over” MSNBC permanently… He is the only credible one in the whole network.
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If Ron Paul become president, Islam would take over the world. The irrational muslims would not negotiate, they would fight will all their might, till their death. I’m glad these assholes have a dictator. Keep them under control, so they don’t end up as another terrorist nation, which they are bound to be. Theres no changing people like this.
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As bad as Mubarak is, the country that supports him with money and weapons is the one that is fighting against those that want freedom.
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“at the end of the day… at the end of the day… at the end of the day…”
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Nobodys better than Ron Paul- Rattigan has been earning my respect the last couple years too
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Nobodys better than Ron Paul- Rattigan has been earning my respect the last couple years too
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CIA is trying to orchestrate this all. I just wish Egyptians were smart and drove out all foreigners and made their country a real republic.
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—>We’ve given 70 billion, Mubarak has stolen …70 billion…< —
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I say we do as Ron Paul said, mind our own business and stop sending the american taxpayers money to the elites in other countries.
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Mubarak is our employee . . . he is fired! We paid his salary. Let the people Chowcheskoo his ass.
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Mubarak is in de Nile.
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Please, no bloodshed. In the name of all that’s good, no more innocent people getting hurt or killed. The president and those who would want to hold Egypt’s people under their thumb must step aside, and let Egypt rise.
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The sole sound of reason. I understand setting up a puppet government in Egypt would be a very good idea but really – we’re just setting up the next Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden
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Egyptians are doing what the people in the US people should be doing, taking there fucking country back! Learn from them, Ron Paul is the only politician that makes any sense at all!!!! Instead of worrying what the Egyptians are doing get behind Ron Paul!! And get your constitution and country back!
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