How Much Freedom Do We Have If We Can’t Even Drink Unpasteurized Milk?

Date: 05/16/2011

The Milk Police

by Ron Paul

On April 20th, after a year-long undercover sting operation, armed federal agents acting on behalf of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) raided the business of Pennsylvanian Amish farmer Dan Allgyer to prevent him from selling his unpasteurized milk to willing, fully-informed customers in Maryland. Federal agents wasted a whole year and who knows how many of our tax dollars posing as customers in order to catch Allgyer committing the “crime” of selling his milk. He was not tricking people into buying it, he was not forcing people to purchase it, and there had been no complaints about his product. These were completely voluntary transactions, but ones that our nanny-state federal government did not approve of, and so they shut down his business. The arrogance of the FDA and so many other federal agencies is simply appalling. These types of police state raids on peaceful businessmen, so reminiscent of our tyrannical federal drug war, have no place in a free society.

The FDA claims its regulatory powers over food safety give it the authority to ban the interstate sales of raw milk, but this is an unconstitutional misapplication of the commerce clause for legislative ends. As we have seen, if the executive branch feels hamstrung by the fact that our framers placed lawmaking authority in the Legislative Branch, they simply make their own laws and call them “regulations.” We all know how the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) uses such bogus regulation authority to harass, hinder, and shut down countless other legitimate businesses. Sadly, Congress has been far too lax for far too long as the executive branch continues to encroach on its areas of responsibility and thereby undermines our system of government.

Most Americans understand that if you don’t want to drink unpasteurized milk you simply do not buy it. But the federal government solution is pre-dawn raids which destroy the livelihoods of honest, hardworking families in this time of continued economic hardship.

I am outraged by this raid and the many others like it, and that is why last week I introduced HR 1830, a bill to allow the shipment and distribution of unpasteurized milk and milk products for human consumption across state lines. This legislation removes the unconstitutional restraint on farmers who wish to sell or otherwise distribute, and people who wish to consume, unpasteurized milk and milk products.

Many Americans have done their own research and come to the conclusion that unpasteurized milk is healthier than pasteurized milk. These Americans have the right to consume these products without having the federal government second-guess their judgment or thwart their wishes. If there are legitimate concerns about the safety of unpasteurized milk, those concerns should be addressed at the state and local level.

I am hoping my colleagues in the House will join me in promoting individual rights, the original intent of the Constitution, and federalism by cosponsoring this legislation to allow the interstate shipment of unpasteurized milk and milk products for human consumption.

If we are not even free anymore to decide something as basic as what we wish to eat or drink, how much freedom do we really have left?

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  1. Never before has my name been used by somebody else on a forum such as this. I guess there’s a first time!

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  2. Whiteners NOT LABELED, why homogenation? Hint-better living through chemistry.

    Take it back, join the TEA PARTY REVOLUTION!

    Here’s our new theme.

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  3. Fucking Governments, they have to be reduced, or removed completely.

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  4. Fucking Governments, they have to be reduced, or removed completely.

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  5. Dear Dr. Paul,

    Thank you! You impress me more and more every day. Thank you for standing up for our freedom.

    Michael

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    • Hi Michael, I’m Michael and you’re impersonating me. Why do that Michael? Because my words are starting to sink in to Ron Paulists?

      Ron Paul needs to choose his issues a little more carefully. Surely he can find an issue of government interference in the lives of people that makes some real sense. This silly milk pasteurization issue is not one of them. And for that reason it detracts from Ron Paul’s message among sensible and sane people. Ensuring that he will not ever be successful as a presidential candidate.

      Maybe Ron Paul knows this himself. He’s not a stupid man and for that reason it’s seems suspiciously like him playing to the fringe element to keep his name in the news. He doesn’t really know how to play to the mainstream.

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  6. a doctor named william campell douglass 11 discoved that pastuerization alters the protien and fats in the milk, zaps all the enzmes and vitamins and destroys all the probiots in the milk that our body needs to properly digest it and that is why you have people that are lactose intolerant and have allergies to the milk.
    he also wrote a book a highly recomond in 2007 called the raw truth about milk: http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Truth-About-Milk/dp/9962636736/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1306103098&sr=8-1
    “Louis Pasteur invented pasteurization in the 1860’s at a time when food production and storage were not nearly as sanitized as they are today.”
    “Food (whether un-pasteurized or not) produced and stored in unsanitary conditions is what actually causes disease.”
    “Unfortunately, the high temperatures of the pasteurization process1:
    * Do not kill ALL harmful micro-organisms
    * Destroy active enzymes in food
    * Diminish the vitamin content of food
    * Denature fragile milk proteins
    * Kill beneficial bacteria
    ‘Pasteurization actually “kills” food and makes it less nutritious.”

    “The Weston A. Price Foundation which continues the work of weston price who was the head of the american dental association until his death in 1948. He wrote a book called nutrition and physical degeneration in 1939 after 9 years of studying the diets of isolated tribes in 25 different countries and discovering that the ones that had raw milk and cod liver oil and no proccesed, pastuerized foods, sugar or white flour had a high immunity to tubercolosis, perfect dental arches no tooth decay, and no degeneration has even linked pasteurized milk to health problems including allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer!”
    Dead Food v. Living Food

    “What’s the difference between dead food and live food?”

    “According to Live-Food.com, live food has not been heated above 118 degrees Fahrenheit for longer than 30 minutes. This ensures that the food retains its enzymes and life force.”
    Live foods:

    * Give you energy
    * Have beneficial enzymes
    * Retain most of their vitamins
    * Have been used effectively to treat disease2

    “Live foods are very important to the Body Ecology system of health and healing, and we recommend eating live foods, as long as they support your health and wellness.”
    Pasteurized Foods to Avoid

    “Here are some common pasteurized foods that may seem “healthy,” but are actually missing key enzymes and nutrients to keep you at your healthy best:”

    * Milk
    * Butter
    * Cheeses
    * Cream
    * Vinegar
    * Almonds
    * Commercial sauerkraut
    * Yogurt
    * Eggs and Egg Beaters (read how to choose healthy eggs)

    “These foods are best eaten live because they retain their original nutrients.
    The Benefits of Raw Foods”

    “Cooking food can be just as healthy as eating food raw, in some cases and for certain health conditions.”

    “But this does NOT apply in the case of pasteurization, when foods are over-heated and most of what we dearly need is killed.”

    “Our modern lifestlye, filled with stress, processed foods, environmental toxins and prescription and over-the-counter drugs is already killing the healthy enzymes and microflora we need to keep our immunity strong.”

    “Eating raw foods is a great way to help your body regain what has been lost, giving your immunity a fighting chance.”
    Raw Dairy Products

    “Raw dairy products (from cows eating fresh grass, NOT silage) contain plenty of essential fatty acids, substances that can help you build muscle mass and lose body fat!”

    These fatty acids also stimulate your immune system and protect against disease. now the link to the website that talks all about what I said starting from louis pasteur : http://bodyecology.com/articles/avoid_pasteurized_foods.php

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    • “a doctor named william campell douglass 11 discoved ”

      I swear don’t people research the people they listen to? Doctor Douglas is also famous for saying that smoking doesn’t cause cancer, exercise doesn’t improve health, and that women shouldn’t get mammograms!!!!

      Further, he has written articles supporting the debunked theory that vaccines cause autism. He has written articles supporting a Lancet paper by Doctor Andrew Wakefield that was found to be based upon fraud.

      The man is a quack and not credible.

      It’s funny that people are so willing to listen to bullshit from quacks as opposed to every other health organization in the world.

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  7. a doctor named william campell douglass 11 discoved that pastuerization alters the protien and fats in the milk, zaps all the enzmes and vitamins and destroys all the probiots in the milk that our body needs to properly digest it and that is why you have people that are lactose intolerant and have allergies to the milk.
    he also wrote a book a highly recomond in 2007 called the raw truth about milk: http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Truth-About-Milk/dp/9962636736/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1306103098&sr=8-1
    “Louis Pasteur invented pasteurization in the 1860’s at a time when food production and storage were not nearly as sanitized as they are today.”
    “Food (whether un-pasteurized or not) produced and stored in unsanitary conditions is what actually causes disease.”
    “Unfortunately, the high temperatures of the pasteurization process1:
    * Do not kill ALL harmful micro-organisms
    * Destroy active enzymes in food
    * Diminish the vitamin content of food
    * Denature fragile milk proteins
    * Kill beneficial bacteria
    ‘Pasteurization actually “kills” food and makes it less nutritious.”

    “The Weston A. Price Foundation has even linked pasteurized milk to health problems including allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer!”
    Dead Food v. Living Food

    “What’s the difference between dead food and live food?”

    “According to Live-Food.com, live food has not been heated above 118 degrees Fahrenheit for longer than 30 minutes. This ensures that the food retains its enzymes and life force.”
    Live foods:

    * Give you energy
    * Have beneficial enzymes
    * Retain most of their vitamins
    * Have been used effectively to treat disease2

    “Live foods are very important to the Body Ecology system of health and healing, and we recommend eating live foods, as long as they support your health and wellness.”
    Pasteurized Foods to Avoid

    “Here are some common pasteurized foods that may seem “healthy,” but are actually missing key enzymes and nutrients to keep you at your healthy best:”

    * Milk
    * Butter
    * Cheeses
    * Cream
    * Vinegar
    * Almonds
    * Commercial sauerkraut
    * Yogurt
    * Eggs and Egg Beaters (read how to choose healthy eggs)

    “These foods are best eaten live because they retain their original nutrients.
    The Benefits of Raw Foods”

    “Cooking food can be just as healthy as eating food raw, in some cases and for certain health conditions.”

    “But this does NOT apply in the case of pasteurization, when foods are over-heated and most of what we dearly need is killed.”

    “Our modern lifestlye, filled with stress, processed foods, environmental toxins and prescription and over-the-counter drugs is already killing the healthy enzymes and microflora we need to keep our immunity strong.”

    “Eating raw foods is a great way to help your body regain what has been lost, giving your immunity a fighting chance.”
    Raw Dairy Products

    “Raw dairy products (from cows eating fresh grass, NOT silage) contain plenty of essential fatty acids, substances that can help you build muscle mass and lose body fat!”

    These fatty acids also stimulate your immune system and protect against disease. now the link to the website that talks all about what I said starting from louis pasteur : http://bodyecology.com/articles/avoid_pasteurized_foods.php

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  8. These straight talks are reminiscent of FDR’s fireside chats he broadcasted on public radio shortly after taking office. This, on my opinion, is why I favor Dr. Paul. FDR was instrumental in leading this nation out of the great depression, and this similarity gives me hope that Dr. Paul is capable of restoring this great nation to more prosperous times.

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    • FDR did not get us out of the Depression. His policies prolonged it. Furthermore, his policies have bankrupted the nation…social security, the greatest Ponzi Scheme ever undertaken, simply does not work.

      It will not be easy for libertarians like Ron Paul to get us out of the mess that FDR and other progressives have left us with.

      NOnetheless, I hope we can count on your vote anyway…Ron PAul 2012…you are either for FREEDOM, or you are not.

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  9. The issue here has nothing to do with “pasteurized milk” v. “unpasteurized milk,” it has everything to do with our freedom to choose what is best for ourselves. Personally, I won’t drink unpasteurized milk, but who am I to say that YOU can’t drink it? Someone who drinks unpasteurized milk is not violating my rights, therefore…

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  10. homogenized milk with no futher proccesing will go rancid within hours. The much smaller fat globules have many times the surface area of the larger globules. If left untreated the enzymes in the liquid phase of homogenized milk will immediality start breaking down the now very tiny fat globules because the protective elements in which were sufficient to cover the large globules are spread to thin to adqueatly protect the vastly increased surface surface area with the many small globules created by homogenization. How to fix this and realize the economic benifits by skimming the cream and then homeoginizing. The answer is is to pastuerize the milk since pasturizing kills of the milks rancid phase enzymes so the milk wont go rancid. Hence once the diary industries took the homeoginizing step, to follow the dollars, it had to pastuerize. And the industry will have to stick with the gospel of pastuerizing, since their current economic structure requires it. Once pastuerized milk no longer has to be homeoginized.

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  11. Next, raw carrots.

    This should be your campaign theme song, Mr. Paul

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  12. Michael Raw milk from grass fed free range cows has lactase and other enzymes which aid digestion and actually kill germs like salmonella. And in california there is only one farmer that sells his raw milk directly to the stores. His farm is called organic pastures, and his cows are grass fed and move around in the pastures, and I have been there. The owner of organic pastures Mark Macafee was sued for selling his good gras feed raw milk to another state where it is legal by the fda. What you do not understand michael is that instead of regulations by the fda what we need is correct education to the consumers so that they know what to get. The fda was started for a good reason but it has become corrupted.
    Now a company has to pay 300,000 dollars to the fda to get a food, or drug approved, and it was not always this way. Because a company has to pay the fda it can control them if it gives them more than is required and happens to be a big company. Also in california you have swat teams that have poured dye into the milk of grass fed cows to stop these kind of farmers from doing businesses. If you want I can give you examples from all the other states where they have done what they did to organic pastures to all other states in the us but then it would be to long.

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    • Part of the problem is that many are getting completely wrong information about raw milk. Just because Ron Paul says that millions of Americans have done the research on raw milk and concluded that it’s healthier doesn’t mean that their information is factually correct.

      #1 It is completely untrue that raw milk provides any significant health benefits over pasteurized milk. Raw Milk may slightly help milk allergies, but that is about it. Given the risks involved, I think that most consumers would choose an allergy over playing Russian Roulette with their health.

      #2 Raw Milk is dangerous, more dangerous than any other consumable product on the market. Proponents of raw milk like to point to outbreaks in pasteurized milk and other food products like meat. Yet they forget that raw milk consumption in this country is a tiny fraction of the consumption of pasteurized milk or beef. If you adjust for the consumption rates, tainted raw milk is responsible for roughly 60 times more outbreaks than pasteurized milk and 25 times more hospitalizations than beef.

      #3 The claim that grass feeding cows eliminates the need for pasteurization is also untrue. Dairy Farms are infested with fecal matter from cows and that is how dangerous bacteria can form. Only pasteurization can eliminate this bacteria. There have been outbreaks from raw milk that originated at dairies with grassfed cows. The claim that pasteurization destroys the lactace is milk is well, BULLSHIT.

      #4 One poster claimed that we lived just fine in the age before pasteurization. Before pasteurization, milk borne illnesses were far more common than they are today. In 1938, when pasteurization became more common, milk borne illnesses went from 25% of all food-borne illnesses to 1% of food borne illnesses. Pasteurization is one of the greatest contributions to public health of the modern age and has alleviated an unbelievable amount of suffering.

      #5 One of the issues involved is states rights. Currently, states have the right to regulate dairies that sell raw milk or to ban the sale for final consumption. The reason for this, is that states ultimately bare the brunt of public health costs to cover an outbreak.

      If Mr. Paul’s bill is passed more people will become seriously ill, and many of them will be young children. We aren’t talking about a little diaheria here, we are talking about having to be on dialysis for the rest of their lives. Mr. Paul, doesn’t want to require farmers who sell raw milk to get adequate insurance to cover potential victims. So who will pay for the sick? The vast majority who don’t drink raw milk that’s who.

      There is only one product sold for final consumption which every medical organization in the world tells us is unfit for human consumption. Raw Milk. Maybe we should pay attention to them as opposed to crack pots.

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      • Libertarian777

        An even bigger risk, that’s completely unregulated are nursing mothers! We HAVE to ensure they are pasteurising their milk. I mean think of all the poor defenseless infants who have no choice about where their milk comes from. They must be dying by the millions every year.

        We need to enact a law to make sure all nursing women are showering correctly, and are sanitising their breasts 3x a day.

        We can have the TSA verify this by having ‘breast’ examination stations at every daycare center, with regular bacterial cultures off of each breast. It’s for the protection of our children against ‘milk terrorists’ who seek to ‘poison the young’ with ‘unpasteurised milk’.

        The FDA should also have SWAT no-knock raids on every house (Indiana style..no warrant required) that has a nursing mother in it, and check their fridge, and test the breast milk for bacteria. Any mother that does not pasteurise the milk should be arrested for child endangerment.

        We have to pass this law now! Our children are in danger!

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        • Libertarian777,
          you are a flaming idiot….to a T. That kind of a comparison is stupid, just flat out stupid. You didn’t bother to read Milk Truths post did you, before you opened your stupid mouth. This anti-intellectual rant that you and other so called “horse-sense libertarian/conservative” folk seem to espouse makes you look like an off the wall freaktard.

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      • I want the government out of my refrigerator. I don’t want my tax dollars spent on SWAT teams that raid my local stores and harass the Amish for selling milk that comes straight from the cow.

        There is plenty of evidence that raw milk IS healthy. Here’s a good place to read about the benefits of raw milk: http://www.realmilk.com/ Do you really think the small dairies can afford to have studies done to counter the corporate milk studies?

        What if you are wrong? I’ve been drinking raw milk for 20 years with no ill effects and feel that I am very healthy. I also risk eating raw strawberries, spinach and lettuce. Are you going to make radiated or cooked vegetables and fruit my only choice?

        I REFUSE to drink the homogenized, pasteurized, hormone laden processed version of milk. This is the thinking that scares the big corporate dairy industry. They cannot compete with the small dairies with cleanliness and goodness from brown cows (A2 milk) grazing on green grass.

        It is fine with me if you think raw milk is bad and choose instead to drink processed milk. Please don’t take away my choice to drink raw milk.

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      • Some civilized foreign countries have raw milk machines on city streets where the citizens come and fill their jugs from home. Raw milk is so much safer than pasteurized, but I do not want to change your mind. Just don’t keep me from making my own decisions, as I will not try to force you to change yours. What’s that saying, Vive la difference! And your numbered list is, well here are my comments:
        #1 It is completely untrue that raw milk provides any significant health benefits over pasteurized milk. Raw Milk may slightly help milk allergies, but that is about it. Given the risks involved, I think that most consumers would choose an allergy over playing Russian Roulette with their health. MORE THAN 9 MILLION AMERICANS CURRENTLY DRINK RAW MILK. THEY ARE NOT DROPPING LIKE FLIES!
        #2 Raw Milk is dangerous, more dangerous than any other consumable product on the market. Proponents of raw milk like to point to outbreaks in pasteurized milk and other food products like meat. Yet they forget that raw milk consumption in this country is a tiny fraction of the consumption of pasteurized milk or beef. If you adjust for the consumption rates, tainted raw milk is responsible for roughly 60 times more outbreaks than pasteurized milk and 25 times more hospitalizations than beef. MOST OF THE OUTBREAKS FROM MILK ARE FROM PASTEURIZED MILK.
        #3 The claim that grass feeding cows eliminates the need for pasteurization is also untrue. Dairy Farms are infested with fecal matter from cows and that is how dangerous bacteria can form. Only pasteurization can eliminate this bacteria… SMALL DAIRY FARMS ARE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT THE CLEANLINESS OF THEIR MILK; THEY HAVE TO BE AS THE CRITERIA FOR THE MEASUREMENT OF BACTERIA IN THEIR MILK IS MUCH STRICTER. COWS FROM CAFOs (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations) HAVE NO ACCESS TO GRASS, LIVE IN MANURE UP TO THEIR HOCKS, AND MUST HAVE THEIR MILK PASTEURIZED BECAUSE IT IS SO FILTHY AND FULL OF MANURE AND PUSS. I WOULD NEVER DRINK RAW MILK FROM A CAFO.
        #4 One poster claimed that we lived just fine in the age before pasteurization. Before pasteurization, milk borne illnesses were far more common than they are today. In 1938, when pasteurization became more common… COWS WERE FED THE MASH FROM LIQUOR PLANTS WHICH MADE THEM VERY ILL, AND MADE THEIR MILK VERY UNHEALTHY. THAT IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE IN CITIES GOT SICK FROM RAW MILK. PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY WHOSE COWS ATE A NATURAL DIET DID NOT GET SICK FROM DRINKING RAW MILK.

        The rest of your words have not bearing on raw milk as over 9 million americans currently consume it and as I said previously, they are not dropping like flies, nor are their children dying. If that was the truth, raw milk sales would decrease, but they are increasing, which is making CAFOs and corporate dairies very upset because they are losing a small portion of their billion dollar profits.

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  13. The United States exists in two forms: The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.

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  14. The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

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  15. The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

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  16. Take any situation of government control and analyze it carefully and see if you can come to the conclusion that it needs to be eliminated. Granted, some may but pasteurizing milk is not one of them. I would contend that most are quite sensible and real valid arguments against sensible controls need to be made. Not an idea such as this on pasteurizing of milk which hasn’t been thought out completely.

    And so goes the problem with Ron Paul and the libertarian’s agenda. Feel good political arguments are invented with no serious thought for the consequences. And then the lemmings who frequent this place jump on the band wagon and support the obvious stupidity.

    Yes, you have a right to support it but don’t ever be led to believe that the ideas such as this one are ever going to become mainstream ideas that can win an election.

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    • Again. Let me take this slowly for you.

      You say removing any government control. Now, listen CAREFULLY. Government can be FEDERAL or STATE level.

      Got that? Has it sunk in yet? I’ll wait………………..Ok?

      Removing FEDERAL statutes DOES NOT equate to having no laws at all.

      Got that???

      We have a thing called STATES. They ALSO write laws.

      Automatically assuming the federal part is the ONLY ones who can institute laws is dumb. It just isn’t true.

      So either, you are not grasping the concept, or you are purposely being obtuse. Which is it?

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  17. When the milk is heated in the pasteurization process, important things like the milks natural Lactase, Lipase, and Phosphatase, which helps with the breakdown of milk sugars (lactose), proteins, and the absorption of calcium, are destroyed eliminating the natural digestive support given by Mother Nature, herself. All the enzymes naturally found in milk are extremely heat sensitive making them some of the first things to go when milk is pasteurized.

    This process not only destroys the bad bacteria but also a lot of the good ones our bodies could use.
    pasteurization of milk or cheese kills all the probiotis in the milk that your body needs to properly digest the milk and that is why some people have allergies to milk or have lactose intolerance. It also zaps all of the enzymes and vitamins in the milk or cheese, and alters the protiens and fats in the milk. Raw milk has lactase and other enzymes which aid digestion and actually kill germs like salmonella only if it comes from grass fed free range cows. if you get milk that is not from grass feed free range cows you get problems because cows are meant to eat grass not corn, and exercise and move about. If the cows is not healthy before it dies you will catch some kid of sickness from drinking the milk or eating the cheese. Finally most of the milk in these studies and sold in Super Markets around the world is from conventionally grain-fed cattle. These cows are forced to walk around in there own feces and the fecal matter of other cows, which is why they all usually get sick and need to be fed antibiotics. As you can probably imagine cows that walks around in poop all day and are force fed food they were never meant to eat are going to produce milk that is filled with nasty bacterias, antibiotics, and viruses.

    A1 Beta-Casein is the nasty stuff associated with the release of beta-casomorphin-7, which is an opioid-like chemical released upon digestion. This protein fragment is what normally causes the joint pain, digestive issues, and leaky gut generally related to all casein. This is normally because the kind of dairy cow that produces A1 Beta-Caseins (Holsteins and Friesians, these are your typical black and white cows), also produce more milk per cow, so they are the favored dairy cows of the conventional factory farmed dairy industry. The A2 Beta-Casein produced by cow breeds like Jerseys and Gurnseys cows (brown and white cows), hasn’t been shown to cause the same problems with gut irritation, joint pain, or leaky gut problems. So if you insist on drinking milk, or doing a GOMAD protocol try and stick to the brown cows, the Masai did and did pretty well on it.

    A2 dairy is also associated with Goats milk which also seems to be less of a problem for even lactose/casein intolerant people.
    read a book called the raw truth about milk: http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Truth-About-Milk/dp/9962636736/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
    This book explains how pasteurization, homogenization and processing are adding toxic levels of vitamin d to the milk, and how unprocessed milk can heal and help your immune system.

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    • finnie wrote: [quote]As you can probably imagine cows that walks around in poop all day and are force fed food they were never meant to eat are going to produce milk that is filled with nasty bacterias, antibiotics, and viruses.[/quote]

      Nobody has the right to tell the farmers that they can’t have their cows living in those conditions. Not even government right? But the conditions seem to be necessary because of the demand for milk. Right? So go ahead and drink that milk. I’ll stick with the pasteurized variety because I believe it’s safer for my health. And if you catch some dreadful disease then stay away from the public because you don’t have a right to infringe on the public’s safety. Not because the government says so but because the public has a right to be safe from those diseases you and raw milk drinkers will catch and spread.

      And if you don’t like those terms then let government control the situation the way it is presently doing.

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      • well michael the pasturized milk you are consuming is from grainfed cows.
        When the milk is heated in the pasteurization process, important things like the milks natural Lactase, Lipase, and Phosphatase, which helps with the breakdown of milk sugars (lactose), proteins, and the absorption of calcium, are destroyed eliminating the natural digestive support given by Mother Nature, herself. All the enzymes naturally found in milk are extremely heat sensitive making them some of the first things to go when milk is pasteurized.

        This process not only destroys the bad bacteria but also a lot of the good ones our bodies could use.
        pasteurization of milk or cheese kills all the probiotis in the milk that your body needs to properly digest the milk and that is why some people have allergies to milk or have lactose intolerance. It also zaps all of the enzymes and vitamins in the milk or cheese, and alters the protiens and fats in the milk. Raw milk has lactase and other enzymes which aid digestion and actually kill germs like salmonella.

        The studies where they say raw milk is bad where done on grainfed cows that had to sit in their poop all day not grass fed cows that move around in a pasture, which studies show are 100 percent safe. And even if it is pastuerized you are consuming millk or cheese from a diseased cow because it is grainfeed an so you can sickness even if it is pastueried. I have friends who have gotten sallomenala from pasteruized milk.

        The majority of farmers that sell raw milk sell it grass fed and are targeted in raids by the fda all the time.

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        • Finnie, You seem to not want to face the issue and that’s the problem. If you want to continue to support this kind of nonsense then do that but you can’t escape the facts. And so I’ll try one more time with you.
          Fact: The majority of milk producing cows are grain fed and stand around in cow dung.
          Fact: The number of people demanding milk make this an unfortuante fact.
          Fact: The milk from those cows needs to be pasteurized to prevent disease.

          All your statements on pasteurized milk are probably correct. If you and a few libertarians who care about getting raw milk really want it you can probably find it somewhere. This in no way alters the hard facts I’ve stated and so this isn’t an issue to put before the people in order to drum up some wild ideas about government having too much control. Granted, there may be issues of government control that need to be addresssed and Ron Paul could address them. But as he does each of his arguments should be studied on it’s merits.

          This is nothing more than inventing an issue to play to the politics of a lot of stupid people who are looking for an issue they can use to pounce on the government. It doesn’t do Ron Paul any good as it won’t get the sympathies of enough people to make Ron Paul popular.

          Perhaps he can do better with some real issues but I sort of doubt it because he needs to invent the sensationalism in order to play to his audience. An audience that loves to jump to stupid conclusions such as what this issue has hatched.

          Do you want it to be that way forever? Maybe Ron Paul is happy with it and gets the attention he needs to keep getting him elected. It won’t ever get him elected to president because he has to play to a large number of sensible people. Your call.

          This is not an honest issue but Ron Paul’s stance on 9/11 was honest. He didn’t say it was an inside job but he did make it clear that 9/11 attacks were used by the Bush admin for an excuse for war in the ME. That’s honest and correct but it too may not get voters. Too bad an honest politician can’t tell the truth and be elected. And too bad he needs to invent red herrings such as pasteurized milk.

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      • This is dangerously misinformed. But bsides that people should be allowed to make the choice between drinking milk sludge from diseased cows (as you choose to do) or drinking the healthy alternative from cows that are raised humanely in ideal conditions – the way they used to be.

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        • You don’t seem to want to understand that most cows are grain fed and stand around in their cow shit because that has become a necessity. That is the choice the farmers have made. There’s nothing you can do about it. If you want to drink raw milk then you should do that. Don’t come to stupid uninformed conclusions for other people who understand the facts.

          I’m not going to suffer your stupidity any longer. Have a nice f-cked up life.

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  18. When the milk is heated in the pasteurization process, important things like the milks natural Lactase, Lipase, and Phosphatase, which helps with the breakdown of milk sugars (lactose), proteins, and the absorption of calcium, are destroyed eliminating the natural digestive support given by Mother Nature, herself. All the enzymes naturally found in milk are extremely heat sensitive making them some of the first things to go when milk is pasteurized.
    This process not only destroys the bad bacteria but also a lot of the good ones our bodies could use.
    pasteurization of milk or cheese kills all the probiotis in the milk that your body needs to properly digest the milk and that is why some people have allergies to milk or have lactose intolerance. It also zaps all of the enzymes and vitamins in the milk or cheese, and alters the protiens and fats in the milk. Raw milk has lactase and other enzymes which aid digestion and actually kill germs like salmonella only if it comes from grass fed free range cows. if you get milk that is not from grass feed free range cows you get problems because cows are meant to eat grass not corn, and exercise and move about. If the cows is not healthy before it dies you will catch some kid of sickness from drinking the milk or eating the cheese. Finally most of the milk in these studies and sold in Super Markets around the world is from conventionally grain-fed cattle. These cows are forced to walk around in there own feces and the fecal matter of other cows, which is why they all usually get sick and need to be fed antibiotics. As you can probably imagine cows that walks around in poop all day and are force fed food they were never meant to eat are going to produce milk that is filled with nasty bacterias, antibiotics, and viruses.
    A1 Beta-Casein is the nasty stuff associated with the release of beta-casomorphin-7, which is an opioid-like chemical released upon digestion. This protein fragment is what normally causes the joint pain, digestive issues, and leaky gut generally related to all casein. This is normally because the kind of dairy cow that produces A1 Beta-Caseins (Holsteins and Friesians, these are your typical black and white cows), also produce more milk per cow, so they are the favored dairy cows of the conventional factory farmed dairy industry. The A2 Beta-Casein produced by cow breeds like Jerseys and Gurnseys cows (brown and white cows), hasn’t been shown to cause the same problems with gut irritation, joint pain, or leaky gut problems. So if you insist on drinking milk, or doing a GOMAD protocol try and stick to the brown cows, the Masai did and did pretty well on it. A2 dairy is also associated with Goats milk which also seems to be less of a problem for even lactose/casein intolerant people.
    read a book called the raw truth about milk: http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Truth-About-Milk/dp/9962636736/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
    This book explains how pasteurization, homogenization and processing are adding toxic levels of vitamin d to the milk, and how unprocessed milk can heal and help your immune system.

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  19. I am a vegan and don’t ingest dairy products; HOWEVER, I feel that if a person wants to drink unpasteurized milk, they should be able to!

    This government has gotten COMPLETELY out of hand…

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