123 responses to “Ron Paul: Stop Raising the Debt Ceiling”

  1. DavidUllery

    In response to another remark: The idea of ownership of the air we breath goes back a long time. A group action law suit in England, during the industrial revolution resulted in the loss of that property, in favor of dirty industries, for the good of the whole, over the good of the individual. The courts felt that the benefits of the industrial revolution out-weighed individual rights.

    Rothbard, Rand and others have globbed onto this in their Objectivist and Libertarianism writings. Rothbard was an agnostic and Rand was a hard-core atheist. There logic was consistent and reason-based as opposed to basing beliefs on faith.

    Rand especially understood the importance in the "free will" premise in her theory. That is why she, and others would try to push reductionist science into the same camp as the Marxists. Reductionist materialism, is the reason we have GPS on our iPhones. The hypothesis, is that you can break down any system into its parts, and study the parts to learn about them. It has been the most succesful theory in the history of man. It is the reason we have germ theory. Something always causes something else.

    How does this all tie into the Fed? Well, if the entire premise has has a flawed hypothesis, then the entire system collapses. If both libertarianism and the FED are based on false hypothesis, then we should look at a different solution.
    There are no natural rights. You simply have to take them, otherwise they should be taken to be priveledges that can be taken away at anytime. We are the 5th ape (I will let you google the other 4). Some of us like our freedom, but there are many alpha-males out there with lots of money and power. Government will continue to grow until it collapses under its own weight.

    Live free or die, but stop whining about it.

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  2. DavidUllery

    Let me clarify a little. Sorry, I just noticed that some people responded to me.
    Ron Paul would be okay as a Treasury Secretary.

    faith-based thinking example: "Evolution is just a theory." I don't think it was the media that put those typical, Tea Party-sounding words in his mouth
    he mentioned that abortion is a crime and it is up to the states to decide the punishment, therefore he does not believe in the woman's ownership of her own body. Google "Rothbard". Google: Negative Rights

    The concept of "Natural Rights" and "Free Will" are just theorys, and they have much weaker legs to stand on than evolution does. Show me a rabbit fossile in the Cambrian. I will pay you as much cash as I can collect on selling my house for it, if you can prove it is real. There are plenty of ways to falsify a good scientific theory like Evolution By Natural Selection. Do I need to google it for Dr. Paul?

    You have to be willing to spend time in jail, if you have a true cause, otherwise you are just a whimp. I admire Dr. Paul for his consistent stance against the DEA, the FED and other areas.

    What worries me more, is the Tea Party whiners, who are just now starting to whine about Obama, as if freedom hasn't already been taken away from us by many of their fenatically, religious viewpoints. They believe in reading the even-number rights only, and then only the first sentences, and skim over the documents by Jefferson, because he was not one of them - he was more of a diest - not bad thinking for a guy born well before Charles Darwin.

    On all Gore's science - yes, Al Gore cherry-picks his science just like Tea Party, cherry-pick their books of faith. It has it's good and it's bad side. On the bad side, it turns them into hipocrites of the worst sort and enables them to use God as an excuse to take away freedoms from people they don't like. They send DEA thugs into all the states (not just IRS thugs - that is all they care about).

    Yes, I am saying set up a barter system on the web and stop whining about the Federal Reserve Notes. Publisize every DEA agent and every IRS agent who has ever broken one rule. Tie them up in civil courts by sueing them personally. But honestly, the DEA is the worst of these, yet the whining Tea Party folks don't care about other people's lives, especially if they are no longer a fetus.

    The fact that 80% of American are essentially glorified zombie worshipers, and that the Tea Party members are a big part of the extreme end of that camp, reall worries me. Having someone like that in power is not a good idea. You never know when their faith will overpower their reason. Yes, Al Gore does the same thing. That is what politicians do.

    There are articles on climate change that you can read abut in Scientific American. Yes, they support funding for science, but they have really hit the biofuel industry with hard facts. There are several articles on the validity of the Climate Change science.

    My thing is this. I had to live under this DEA thug regime all of my life. To be free, I had to follow what I thought was right. Now that the Christian right's precious Federal Reserve Notes are being threatened. Many of these people are responsible for continuing with the corporate oligarchy too, because many of them are business owners in the Malls and elsewhere. These people get lobbyists at the local, state and Federal level to pass regulations so that a poor guy who knows how to cook a hotdog, can't put up a stand on the sidewalk in front of the Mall. So many of these people are anti-free-market, pro-corporate group rights when it comes to their own businesses. Profit, not freedom is their ownly motive. Don't whine to the government about it, if you cannot do the right thing for others yourself. The government was put into place to protect individual rights, but the Tea Party just whines about it, while doing something completely different.

    Yes, Ron Paul has been consistent for a long time now. He is kind of old, and I see him listening more and more to the tea party. It's a mute point anyway, since I live in California. It's a blue state and Ron Paul will never be on the ticket.

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  3. OrthodoxAtheist

    You belong in an enclosed room, on your own, with no audience. First off please have someone proofread and translate your work on your behalf. Secondly, keep your bigoted mind to yourself. Go peddly your Jew-hate to your dumb radical friends and not on unrelated youTube pages in a shall attempt to find an audience.

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  4. Bean Cube

    Cut military expenses is a more real stuff. Focus on what Americans own now through innovations, not through Jewish languages of ownership. We don't have ownership on breathing air, don't foolishly trying to like those ancient Jewish philosophers. Their sick wishes dug graves for their own population and collapsed their own countries many times already because even Jews themselves can't survive within their own sick old languages and thoughts.

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  5. beancube2010

    Cut military expenses is a more real stuff. Focus on what Americans own now through innovations, not through Jewish languages of ownership. We don't have ownership on breathing air, don't foolishly trying to like those ancient Jewish philosophers. Their sick wishes dug graves for their own population and collapsed their own countries many times already because even Jews themselves can't survive within their own sick old languages and thoughts.

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  6. Bean Cube

    Debt ceiling is not a real stuff or god. Creating that debt ceiling is a religious of crisis, just like some man-made promises of Jesus' returns or man-made beliefs of raptures. Childish minds can only create childish gods even you childishly gold plated everything. Ron Paul 2012 should know about blind spots through histories. Stop fooling around with languages like those in GOP old boys club.

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  7. beancube2010

    Debt ceiling is not a real stuff or god. Creating that debt ceiling is a religious of crisis, just like some man-made promises of Jesus' returns or man-made beliefs of raptures. Childish minds can only create childish gods even you childishly gold plated everything. Ron Paul 2012 should know about blind spots through histories. Stop fooling around with languages like those in GOP old boys club.

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  8. Joe Russell

    What about tax loopholes the rich pay no taxes because of these loopholes , but the republicans don't want to close the loopholes they want to cut SS and every program for the poor and middle class.. real winners these guys.

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  9. mmakeitso

    What about tax loopholes the rich pay no taxes because of these loopholes , but the republicans don't want to close the loopholes they want to cut SS and every program for the poor and middle class.. real winners these guys.

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  10. Joe Russell

    Paul is a idiot.. so flush the country down the toilet...

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  11. mmakeitso

    Paul is a idiot.. so flush the country down the toilet...

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  12. Andres Dow

    this country should break up into smaller countries. into about four parts. Who has dept now????

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  13. 88pie88

    this country should break up into smaller countries. into about four parts. Who has dept now????

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  14. strangetable1

    listen to this guy next week they are raising the debt ceiling again watch.

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  15. strangetable1

    listen to this guy next week they are raising the debt ceiling again watch.

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  16. strangetable1

    You will all see that he is right on aug 2 onwards when a loaf of bread will cost $27.You wont believe it now but will wish you had prepared and listened very very soon.Look into it this new world order.And prepare for the worst and hope for the best.You will be able to rely on yourself or a FEMA camp when they take your homes seize your food supplies(3 days worth allowed)pay you no social security benefits.no food stamps.no food.food is your commodity people wake up

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  17. strangetable1

    You will all see that he is right on aug 2 onwards when a loaf of bread will cost $27.You wont believe it now but will wish you had prepared and listened very very soon.Look into it this new world order.And prepare for the worst and hope for the best.You will be able to rely on yourself or a FEMA camp when they take your homes seize your food supplies(3 days worth allowed)pay you no social security benefits.no food stamps.no food.food is your commodity people wake up

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  18. strangetable1

    You will all see that he is right on aug 2 onwards when a loaf of bread will cost $27.You wont believe it now but will wish you had prepared and listened very very soon.Look into it this new world order.And prepare for the worst and hope for the best.You will be able to rely on yourself or a FEMA camp when they take your homes seize your food supplies(3 days worth allowed)pay you no social security benefits.no food stamps.no food.food is your commodity people wake up

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  19. Ron Cram

    A default on US bonds is not allowed by the Constitution and would be an impeachable offense. If Obama is not able to negotiate a debt ceiling increase, the Obama Administration effectively goes into default. Congress holds the pursestrings and must abide by Constitutional priorities. Debt must be paid first. A huge cut in federal employees is the only option. I suggest cutting Departments of Education, Labor, Transportation completely with drastic cuts to other depts.

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  20. Pete

    Ron Paul has exposed the fiat money system for what it is by proposing that we just tear up bonds that the Fed has issued for quantitative easing. Various economists can find no downside to that solution. Many have called it "surprisingly lucid", including The New Republic. Even liberal economists can find no reason not to, however it is getting no traction on Capitol Hill. It would mean the end of the Federal Reserve and the money power structure as we know it, when we all realize that the national debt is just not real.

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  21. TheTruthNow000

    ... You're awfully quiet about it publicly. In fact nobody speaks out against the outrageous defense budget. The Europeans are quiet ... and quietly laughing too. They know that as long as America is carrying their water spending $700 billion annually, Europe doesn't have to carry its loan and help pay for its own defense. Instead, European companies and governments can put that money into domestic technologies and eat our lunch in better automobile and aerospace technologies.

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  22. compukenny

    Some of us are outraged about defense spending.

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  23. TheTruthNow000

    ... well, one thing that you can ask for ... is a brain!! Ron Paul is a flake, and isn't even a real Republican. And! His toupee wearing racist son Rand is also a flake, and a coward. He's been silent for months. Must be afraid to put that toupee under too much light. Grow a brain!

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  24. TheTruthNow000

    ... quit spending huh? The Defense budget was more than doubled during the Bush years ... from $300 billion to over $700 billion a year. That's $1.4 trillion every two years for Defense. China spends only $120 billion a year in Defense, Russia only $86 billion a year. The U.S. spends more on Defense annually than every other country combined. Why do you "quit spending" types never get upset about our biggest money drainer ... the Defense budget! That's who has the money.

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  25. compukenny

    Raising the debt ceiling is no answer. QUIT SPENDING. Thats the answer

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  26. dyad2r1

    With Ron in the House, Rand in the Senate and God in his heaven, what more can you ask for?

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  27. dyad2r1

    Einstein and Hitler were Jews. Google "Hitler DNA"

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  28. dyad2r1

    What our founding fathers envisioned was personal freedom.

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  29. J. Barnes

    My prayer,along with millions are with you Dr. Paul,God's speed in 2012

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  30. libertywriters

    My prayer,along with millions are with you Dr. Paul,God's speed in 2012

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  31. funkymonkey1930

    As of now, 2 people like to spend beyond their means.

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  32. jugeteable jesusmiddlefinger

    exactly, but the people in the media demonize ron because of it and it makes me sick because many people are fans of the media people and are convinced by their word and will never listen to ron.
    i listen to the radio and that is where i hear this hypocrites saying they want freedom but go against ron paul.

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  33. jugeteable

    exactly, but the people in the media demonize ron because of it and it makes me sick because many people are fans of the media people and are convinced by their word and will never listen to ron.
    i listen to the radio and that is where i hear this hypocrites saying they want freedom but go against ron paul.

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  34. urbanpleasant

    Obama has mismanaged the economy, we need Ron Paul in 2012

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  35. urbanpleasant

    Obama has mismanaged the economy, we need Ron Paul in 2012

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