Ron Paul: Get out of Afghanistan! End War Profits and Corporatism!


Dylan Ratigan: Joining us now is Republican Congressman from Texas, and GOP presidential hopeful, Ron Paul. And, Congressman, it’s a pleasure to see you again.

Ron Paul: Thank you.

Dylan Ratigan: Now, your thoughts on everybody coming around to your way of thinking?

Ron Paul: Well, I hope it’s true, it looks like they have certainly moved in that direction, and I think it reflects the fact that the people have awakened, and that’s where they’re coming from right now. The American people are tired of it, 10 years is way too much. Nobody, as you described, has defined what our goals are and how victory could be achieved. So they’re sick and tired of it, we’re flat out broke, the sooner the better. I thought something you mentioned was very, very important, bringing a token 10,000 troops home or a few troops home. But you mentioned the fact of the contractors. What if they add 10,000, contracting out this war? It was done in Iraq and now it’s being done in Afghanistan. It’s much bigger than just measuring the number of troops there. But, overall, it’s the policy; what are we there for, what is the purpose, does it serve our national interests? And I would say no, there’s no real purpose there. And Senator Mencken made that very important point: China is achieving more than we achieve with all our fighting and killing and militarism, and the Chinese are out-classifying us as capitalist. They loan us money and they invest their money because they have most of our money, we’ve spent it over there. So we have really turned out system and its head, and we have to change it. But economic events are going to force us to do it, and I think it’s coming soon.

Dylan Ratigan: How do we exploit this opportunity? I feel, though, in the Republican primary that almost a man or a woman wants a redefinition of the Afghanistan mission, if not outright troop withdrawal along with everybody, from Senator Joe Manchin, Senator Bernie Sanders. I can line up a whole string of Democrats who would agree with you. How can we get the convergence of those disparate communities to wield force on the president and Republican leadership in the House?

Ron Paul: Well, I can see why people become disenchanted, because when George Bush Junior ran in the year 2000, I liked what he was saying. He said we should have a humble foreign policy, we shouldn’t be in nation building. But immediately afterwards he changed that policy. And then Obama was elected more-or-less as the peace candidate. Most people held on and said he will change the direction of the George Bush Administration, but nothing changes. So that’s why the American people get so tired of it all. But I think it won’t happen until we’re routed for economic reasons, like the Soviets were routed. Because, right now, even with a fancy speech tonight, I don’t think we’re going to lie back and say, “Hey, we finally turned the band and we are leaving”. I think we’re there for a long time to come, I think we’re there as long as the people will take our dollars, and we’re going to keep spending. It’s a very, very dangerous situation.

Dylan Ratigan: And would you ultimately argue that the narrative you just described when George Bush to President Obama – we’re talking about Republican and Democratic leadership in terms of their rhetoric, but the inability for the machine to respond to the people as a direct reflection of the military-industrial complex’s control of all of our military resources and foreign policy?

Ron Paul: Oh, I think so. I think the control is by the special interest, just as the control for bailing out the banks and the big corporations… the people didn’t want that. They’re the ones who got short changed on that. And when it comes to our foreign policy, it’s managed by the big corporations, it’s managed by those who make a lot of money, the war profits, and it’s a form of corporatism that exists. And that’s why we are getting a growing consensus with this from the progressive left as well as the libertarian right. We are coming together, but it’s just a major undertaking to attack the status quo. And because you just can’t always believe the rhetoric. I mean, the people have been hoodwinked too many times, they have to be able to trust the individual who says, “Enough is enough, it’s time to come home”, and certainly that is my position. A long time ago I thought we should have come home.

Dylan Ratigan: And how could we go about doing this? I mean, looking at this withdrawal narrative that the White House is pushing, I suppose in the hope that everybody in the media comes out and says, “Oh, President Obama launches the withdrawal” without looking deeper to see the 10,000 troops, not to mention the ability to hire 10,000 people with the contractors, is an insult to all of us. What would it really look like, in your mind, if we were going to withdraw?

Ron Paul: Well, there would be an announcement. A president could do it, he’s in charge of the troops. He could just say, “Look, it’s time to come home, we’re going to back off, we’re going to systematically come home as safely as possible and as quickly as possible”. And I think once the announcement was made, and the people knew we were serious, there would be a lot of re-assurance. Maybe some of the American capitalist would once again invest some money as the Chinese capitalist are doing right now. I mean, the Chinese are not only investing in Afghanistan, they’re investing in Iran. We want a fight, we want another war with Iran instead of saying, “Well, why don’t we spread our goodness by trading with people?” I mean, there was one time, of course, in recent memory, especially for me, was all we and the Chinese wanted to do was shoot and kill each other over the Korean War. But now we trade with the Chinese. I mean, what is so terrible about that? Because it is the way to preserve peace and prosperity at the same time.

Dylan Ratigan: Yea. Listen, Congressman, as I said to Senator Mencken, I’ll say it to you, I could not agree more and I wish you all the best in your efforts and we’ll do everything we can to help you, particularly on the issue of the war. Thank you, Congressman.

Ron Paul: Thank you very much.

Dylan Ratigan: Alright, Ron Paul.

  • briman4031

    Just needs to start downing those Ensure shakes!

  • LeVer2k2

    Worn down? Nah, he just looks like someone that went to work and actually did some work, unlike a majority of the other reps.

  • nippytaytay

    Ron looks very worn down in this interview. He needs to relax for a weekend and eat a lot of food.

  • TheAnswerRonPaul2012

    I think its clear America wants RON PAUL for president, We the people will flood the voting booths for the man of the decade RON PAUL. In 2012 Im voting for jobs, for no wars, for government off our back, for banks to keep our records safe, for fbi to be controlled and not look at our visa cards and tap into our phones with no probable cause, for fusion centers to be shut down, And the most important for FREEDOM. Ron Paul will achieve this if you give him a chance. AMERICA WHAT WILL YOU VOTE FOR


  • LiveFreeOrDieNow

    Ron Paul is my president!

  • TheAnswerRonPaul2012

    I think its clear America wants RON PAUL for president, We need to wake America up and support this brave man.


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  • MustangManiac1115

    Its awesome to hear a news host use the term “military-industrial complex”

  • Obama will send 10,000 troops home… then send 50,000 to Libya!

    These criminals in DC will say ANYTHING before an election…. then when they get the power they’ll do whatever the pentagon and military industrial complex tells them to do!

    End the wars… END THE FED!

    The Federal Reserve Secretly Bailed Out Gaddafi’s Bank with US Tax Dollars




    This isn’t America anymore, and it’s much worse than 1933 Germany.



    Dylan is right the whole political roadshow is an insult to anyone with any insight and intelligence..

  • hazeee123

    Man aside from the judge Dylan gives the most favorable interviews to Ron. He’s firmly on our side and yet very objective.

  • BabybooR33

    be prepared for the collapse… there will be no elections

  • Paulitics2012

    Ron Paul is the ONLY presidential candidate with a SOLID RECORD. Nobody else even comes remotely close. I’m going to be so pissed if he doesn’t get elected.

  • resurgam7

    Ron Paul has been making his case without wavering for years. He has not had to ‘reassess’ his views, they have been rock solid consistent all along.

    Also a good point about China – They are growing, trading, and investing while the U.S. can do nothing but bomb, destroy, and piss off all these nations. Guess who will remain standing?

  • RonPaulSwede

    Exactly, how many contractors are there! They are even MORE expensive!

  • kynthful

    Nice interview. Keep em coming..+

  • RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gilliatt83

    Thank you brother.